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Posted by Gremlin [12.254.24.80 - ] on 19 January 2002 at 16.44.23 ZuluTime:

In Reply to: Okay... maybe I misunderstad you all... posted by Operator on 19 January 2002 at 13.20.02 ZuluTime:

SingleCelled organisms die rapidly, but less rapidly than they multiply.

You've got a pretty good analogy here, though. These people are a sort of cancer. Brainless and intrusive.

They also get in the way of things.

Christinanity [and no, that's not a typo] is the worst of them. These idiots kill people in the name of their deity--not that they actually know their deity's name, of course. They interrupt actual progress in the name of their deity. In cases, they even do 'good' things in the name of their deity--although those things are temporary and selfish.

These people don't know why they do the things they do. They blame it all on this deity. The real reasons are far more interesting.

The christians who invade the debate room, for example, have no particular interest in proving a deity to exist. They're there because they personally doubt it. Not unlike going to church, they go into the debate room to reinforce their faith in the unlikely. They ask for proof that their deity doesn't exist, when nothing suggests that it ever existed in the first place. It's the same as arresting some random FallGuy and asking for evidence that he didn't kill someone who hasn't even been found dead yet.

Guilt until innocence is proved.

My function is not to tell these plebeians that everything is going to turn out right in the end. I have no need or desire to help them pretend that deities exist.

I, and the debate room, have one function: to expect evidence of this deity's existence. Anything else is a waste of time and bandwidth.

Posting the wastes of time and bandwidth are technically both redundant and ironic. But: by exemplifying exactly the sort of waste which can and should be ignored, those who haven't already encountered it can see it for what it is.

Christinanity spreads through ignorance. Like most diseases. Someone could state that a deity exists because the bible says so; if someone isn't thinking about it, they might buy into that, mutating into yet another idiot who spreads the same circular argument.

By showing the myraid reasons why the argument fails in context, we're preparing those who might otherwise fall for it with a sort of immunity.

Moreover, the entire event, which rarely deviates from the template, can be seen at once. There's a very simple [and it would have to be] system which these twits adhere to:

Enter the chatroom
Assert that a deity exists
Expect evidence against their unproved assertion
Counter that everyone knows this deity exists, and that debating the issue is pointless
Expect us to give in and agree that their divine bogeyman is really out there, keeping an eye on them
Get frustrated by our refusal to play their little RolePlaying game
Arbitrarily convict us all to Hell, Nastrand, or wherever for failing to turn into their support group
Flee without having answered any questions or providing any reason at all to think that these deities might ever have existed

There are a few other constants, of course. They tend to have unoriginial screennames ending in numbers and countrycodes, use whatever phonetic homonym might replace a real word [your to dumb], display a psychological dependency on the CapsLock function of a keyboard, and use a satirical number of elipses, exclamation marks, and question marks, and so on. But that's all secondary.

So that's the real reason for it: to show those, who weren't yet aware, exactly how pointless and rendundant these people, and their 'arguments', are.

For the rest of us: it's just entertainment.

--Gremlin

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Hmmm... posted by Operator [208.34.119.163 - ] on 20 January 2002 at 18.32.56 ZuluTime (0)

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: SingleCelled organisms die rapidly, but less rapidly than they multiply. : You've got a pretty good analogy here, though. These people are a sort of cancer. Brainless and intrusive. : They also get in the way of things. : Christinanity [and no, that's not a typo] is the worst of them. These idiots kill people in the name of their deity--not that they actually know their deity's name, of course. They interrupt actual progress in the name of their deity. In cases, they even do 'good' things in the name of their deity--although those things are temporary and selfish. : These people don't know why they do the things they do. They blame it all on this deity. The real reasons are far more interesting. : The christians who invade the debate room, for example, have no particular interest in proving a deity to exist. They're there because they personally doubt it. Not unlike going to church, they go into the debate room to reinforce their faith in the unlikely. They ask for proof that their deity doesn't exist, when nothing suggests that it ever existed in the first place. It's the same as arresting some random FallGuy and asking for evidence that he didn't kill someone who hasn't even been found dead yet. : Guilt until innocence is proved. : My function is not to tell these plebeians that everything is going to turn out right in the end. I have no need or desire to help them pretend that deities exist. : I, and the debate room, have one function: to expect evidence of this deity's existence. Anything else is a waste of time and bandwidth. : Posting the wastes of time and bandwidth are technically both redundant and ironic. But: by exemplifying exactly the sort of waste which can and should be ignored, those who haven't already encountered it can see it for what it is. : Christinanity spreads through ignorance. Like most diseases. Someone could state that a deity exists because the bible says so; if someone isn't thinking about it, they might buy into that, mutating into yet another idiot who spreads the same circular argument. : By showing the myraid reasons why the argument fails in context, we're preparing those who might otherwise fall for it with a sort of immunity. : Moreover, the entire event, which rarely deviates from the template, can be seen at once. There's a very simple [and it would have to be] system which these twits adhere to: : <OL><LI>Enter the chatroom<LI>Assert that a deity exists<LI>Expect evidence against their unproved assertion<LI>Counter that everyone knows this deity exists, and that debating the issue is pointless<LI>Expect us to give in and agree that their divine bogeyman is really out there, keeping an eye on them<LI>Get frustrated by our refusal to play their little RolePlaying game<LI>Arbitrarily convict us all to Hell, Nastrand, or wherever for failing to turn into their support group<LI>Flee without having answered any questions or providing any reason at all to think that these deities might ever have existed</OL> : There are a few other constants, of course. They tend to have unoriginial screennames ending in numbers and countrycodes, use whatever phonetic homonym might replace a real word [your to dumb], display a psychological dependency on the CapsLock function of a keyboard, and use a satirical number of elipses, exclamation marks, and question marks, and so on. But that's all secondary. : So that's the real reason for it: to show those, who weren't yet aware, exactly how pointless and rendundant these people, and their 'arguments', are. : For the rest of us: it's just entertainment. : --Gremlin

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