Posted by Damien [24.159.250.195 - 24-159-250-195.jvl.wi.charter.com] on 21 February 2003 at 19.52.46 ZuluTime:

In Reply to: Hope nobody minds me using this to post a chat transcript. posted by Indon on 21 February 2003 at 19.04.11 ZuluTime:

Having just gotten out of another 'debate' with brenton, I now know that he is nothing but a troll... someone who pretends to hold one extreme point but doesn't really. People like him piss me off more than anyone else in chat because you could debate with them for half an hour, think you're getting somewhere, then realize that they never really believed in what they were saying anyways. But anyways, here's a transcript of my little 'conversation' with him. I cut and pasted it onto word pad, post by post. I also added the posts of anyone else who joined in the conversation. This was in ATHEIST vs CHRISTIAN DEBATE 1, my alias is Damien. Another note, I got rid of any 'smilies' that were in the conversation because for some reason, whenever I cut and paste them, they eat up the next ten lines of conversation.

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Damien: Zed, I don't know, his behavior is VERY trollish.
     Swyndle wonders what part of the experiment he is since he doesn't react to Brenton.
     Damien: For instance, that last statement of his is very unfundy, but pretty much reeks of trollocity.
     somersetcase1: Whjat brenton does is sort of like losing a coin toss, and then screaming victory at the top of his lungs and running out of the room, while everyone else stands in amazment. heh
     Damien: Somerset, the difference is, we've seen that behavior so much from other trolls we're no longer surprised by it.
     brenton_spears: and please..i debated indon..about what would comprise an adequate base for a system of ethics....and i really trounced him then...
     brenton_spears: it was one of my best debates..
     Damien: Brenton, tell me, do you enjoy being a troll?
     Hunter: brenton: the transcript doesn't show that you trounced him.
     brenton_spears: and we both fought hard...and the oitcome was that indon lost hard..
     Indon Dasani: brenton; if by 'trounce' you mean to imply 'evade and declare victory for no reason'.
     WicceDiva: brenton just needs to get laid.... then i think he'd calm down a bit...
     Indon Dasani: then I would be tempted to agree.
     Swyndle points and laughs at Brenton's invisible ass
     truthisfalse: indon...yea...i thought i was getting that metalphysical spread around my middle most pompous hot-aired people get
     brenton_spears: damien..please..ask indon the truth..he knows im not just trolling...
     Damien: I mean, I can understand that acting like a fundy is a challenge for you because it requires more intellect than you currently have.
     Indon Dasani: brenton; how about I post the complete transcript on Gremlin's message board so that I can point out your dishonesty on demand.
     somersetcase1: damien Yeah, I have to agree...Just a troll. I must have some morbid desire for him not to be troll though, so I can sit in amazment of how fucked in the head he is. Guess that makes me a tad fucked in the head! mwaahahaha
     Damien: But must you really cover up your own idiocy and immaturity by pretending it's fundy idiocy and immaturity?
     rendermaster: sometimes it's better that someone is thought of as a troll since accepting that another human being could be actually that monumentally stupid is rather frightening!
     Hunter: Indon: go for it.
     Hunter extends an official engraved invitation, or some shit.
     Indon Dasani: hunter; except it's a bit long.
     brenton_spears: the guy could who debate him the way i did..and scalp him as a result ...is no troll..hes the real thing...
     Indon Dasani: even after isolating all the other text out of it.
     brenton_spears: anyway look i just want to assure u im no troll k..
     rendermaster: here's some free wisdom, brenton: if you have to convince others that you won a debate, THEN YOU DIDN'T WIN
     Damien: Somerset, well, sadly enough, people like him give me hope for the human race, because when I see the shit he posts, I just think 'well, at least no one I know is REALLY that nuts.'
     brenton_spears: heyyyy what is the stuff u posted...??..hunter??
     jaydmoore: brenton doesn't care about debate. he's a troll
     rendermaster: but I'll give brenton the benefit of the doubt, since I wasn't present for the debate in question
     Hunter: brenton: what?
     somersetcase1: lol brenton yes, you are a troll...When someone says.....2+2=4 because...etc..etc..And you say..no it's 6, and then start screaming victory..You're either a troll, or in a mental hospital..I vote for the former.
     Indon Dasani: render; worry not, I'm going to post the transcript.
     rendermaster: but those I do trust are saying that brenton is a troll, so I'd tend to believe it
     otakusensei: Stupid people make the world interesting, tis true. But sometimes I wish there were a little less ubiqitous.
     Damien: No, YADT is from a mental hospital, his insanity is genuine, I can already tell that brenton is a fake from the few posts he's put up. His insanity is rather shallow and ill-thought out.
     rendermaster: lol damien
     jaydmoore: < uses his magical powers to remove the cloud cover and allow the sunlight to shine on the troll... turning him to stone *ignored*
     Swyndle ungongs Brenton for a moment...
     somersetcase1: damien I tend to agree
     brenton_spears: anyway i dont think i could make u cry hunter....youre not a crybaby..and dmien....please u werent here to witness my trouncing of indon...im too tired for an encore performance....but i relayed the gist of it to some of my rew and they were all of the unanimous opinion that i acquitted myself very well, having sucessfully mounted a case for the christian position as opposed to indon's position
     Swyndle: Brenton, you've never trounced anyone in your pathetic little life.
     reason_over_faith: what is brenton on about now?
     Hunter bets she could make brenton cry.
     Damien: Okay, brenton, you fucking moron, a true fundy would NEVER refer to it as 'the christian position', you're a rather pathetic troll.
     Hunter bets she could make him scream like a little girl.
     reason_over_faith: he still comes here to get his ass beaten?
     rendermaster: some people enjoy ass-beatings
     WicceDiva: ill help u hunter.
     WicceDiva: it would be fun.
     Swyndle: Brenton, have you ever seen Goldeneye?
     Damien: Another thing brenton, a true fundy would NEVER call it 'his position', they would call it something like 'that lost soul's lies' or something to that effect. You're a troll brenton, and a bad one at that.
     brenton_spears: well im not your typical hillybilly fundy loser...there are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your pathetic philosophy......my friend...just wish you werent on the receiving end of the intricately sophisticated defense of the christian position i mounted in the teeth of indon's criticisms..you would have handled losing to me more badly than he did....
     william_pride2000: brenton..indon didn't "LOSE" anything to you...what the FUCK kind of drugs are you taking?
     Damien: Okay, brenton, once again, you prove your trollness, a fundy would never refer to ANYONE as a fundy.
     Hunter: brenton: we'll just see about that particular debate with Indon....
     rendermaster: indon did lose something - while debating brenton, indon lost precious time that he could have used doing something more constructive, such as picking the lint out of his belly button
     william_pride2000: Damien....excellent point
     Indon Dasani: hunter; it all fits.
     Swyndle: Brenton, do you remember when Famke Janssen beating the hell out of Bond all sexy like in Goldeneye?
     Damien: Plus, no religiously addicted person would use that type of flowery poetic bullshit to describe their own religion.
     Hunter: indon: spectacular.
     rendermaster likes famke janssen
     truthisfalse: damien...he's only 11...sigh
     rendermaster: that's his iq
     rendermaster: not his age
     Swyndle: How does it feel to know that I've had that done to me but you never will?
     Damien: Truth, eleven and hold a thesaurus by my guess.
     rendermaster: lol
     Fastillion: Things you should never do: Join a land war in Asia, go against a Sicilian when death in on the line, teach a Thracian slave how to use a sword, and argue on the behalf of Jesus.
     Hunter: damien: Microsoft Word's Thesaurus.
     Hunter: damien: that's why it takes him so long....
     truthisfalse: damien...true
     Damien: Hunter, that's what I'm thinking.
     Indon Dasani: and, here's the debate. http://gremlin.net/CGI-Bin/2003-01.pl
     Damien: The funny thing is, like most troll, he still goes at it even when he's been thouroughly debunked.
     brenton_spears: damien has a claustrophobia -inducing mental universe in which fundamentalists have to be retards...they dont have to be..that idiot has obviously never read augustine or aquinas
     Swyndle: Indon, you have nothing to prove.
     Hunter looks at indon.
     Indon Dasani: it's actually not so big.
     Swyndle: Brenton, you're suuch a retard. Found any evidence yet?
     Damien: Brenton, please, do yourself a favor and drop the clown suit, it doesn't fit you.
     william_pride2000: brenton...with every word you type you paint yourself into the retard corner
     Hunter: Brenton: Indon posted your 'debate' with him on the board. http://gremlin.net/cgi-data/2003-01/152.html
     Damien: Brenton, the fact that some fundies can write it poetic language doesn't mean they're not fundies.
     Swyndle: Brenton, we've read it and we're all laughing at you.
     Damien: And also, the fact that you refer to Aquinas as a fundy is yet another proof of your trollhood.
     Swyndle: Bunch of theistic claptrap!
     Damien: No self-respecting christian fundementalist, no matter how grammatically precise, would EVER refer to Aquinas as a fundy.
     Swyndle hates fundies.
     Damien: Once again brendon, your act is about as opaque as a clean window.
     Damien: You know, I'm thinking I should leave chat totally and simply go to message boards, I'm guessing that trolls don't have the patience to post on those.
     Swyndle reinstates Brenton's gong.
     zedechiah_the_messiah message boards are just as bad. there the idiots do the same as they do here. they pretend not to notice pertinent points.
     Damien: And I see either brenton's conjuring up another trollish post, or he's finally realized he's been exposed and is doing what all trolls do, goes silent and leaves the room thirty minutes later.
     Hunter: zed: it's a bit harder to do that, though, because everyone else can refer back to the post.
     Indon Dasani: actually, if you'd notice the pattern of behavior manifested in his 'debate' against me, he goes silent for 4-8 minutes and then makes a gigantic post.
     Swyndle: Indon, that's because he need to look up synonyms.
     Damien: Yup, brenton's undergone troll meltdown, I expect the message 'brenton_spears has left the room' to pop up anywhere between five and thirty minutes from now.
     zedechiah_the_messiah ECC, yes. But thats just like in here. I used to spend hours - HOURS - putting together articles with in-depth references. It was pointless
     rendermaster loves when a new troll is totally destroyed by half the chat room
     brenton_spears: no no was away looking over that transcript...
     Damien: Damn, I'm good at this, I wonder if there's a job I can get that involves debunking fundies and taking trolls' clown suits off.
     brenton_spears: dont get delusions of grandeur hear...
     justice_for_jesus: render lmfao
     Indon Dasani bookmarked it for future usage.
     Damien: Whatever brenton, call up any excuse you like, the fact is you're a troll, you know it, we know it, you're the only one who's denying it, and you're doing a bad job at that.
     brenton_spears: look indon...i dont want to maintain a presence on boards..and it disturbs me to think that my ruminations might be posted there....
     Damien: Further proof of your troll status brenton.
     Indon Dasani: brenton; I imagine it would disturb you to be revealed there for convenient exposure.
     rendermaster: dont' worry, brenton, they wont' be around fo rlong - as soon as everyone is able to see them and laugh at them, it will be taken down
     william_pride2000: Darla....just exposing Brenton as the wanna be troll that he wants to be
     Indon Dasani: now I can show you're a liar on demand.
     Damien: Well, anyways, I think I'll save this little conversation.
     Damien (damien_the_blasphemous) left the room.