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Posted by Hunter [12.211.199.55 - 12-211-199-55.client.attbi.com] on 04 March 2003 at 13.21.41 ZuluTime:
brenton_spears :
brenton_spears : hell room
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 03:36:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : i thought that i might post something here for your appraisal
brenton_spears : it pertains to the question of whether or not women should be allowed to publicly instruct men ina church
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 03:37:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : in other words..whether it should be becoming of women that they should receive a word of knowledge
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 03:38:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : by the way the take on this question that i am about to reveal to you..isnt my own....but the angelic doctor's..
brenton_spears : it's a pity that somerset can't be here ..as the quote that i am about to post has direct bearing on the position i defended in debate with him yesterday
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 03:39:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 03:40:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : it's not that long..but it isnt that short either..so i hope none of u will think that i am spamming..do bear with me...
brenton_spears : Speech may be employed in two ways: in one way privately, to one or a few, in familiar conversation, and in this respect the grace of the word may be becoming to women; in another way, publicly, addressing oneself to the whole church, and this is not permitted to women. First and chiefly, on account of the condition attaching to the female sex, whereby woman should be subject to man, as appears from Gn. 3:16. Now teaching and persuading publicly in the church belong not to subjects but to the prelates (although men who are subjects may do these things if they be so commissioned, because their subjection is not a result of their natural sex, as it is with women, but of some thing supervening by accident). Secondly, lest men's minds be enticed to lust, for it is written (Sirach 9:11): "Her conversation burneth as fire." Thirdly, because as a rule women are not perfected in wisdom, so as to be fit to be intrusted with public teaching.
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 03:41:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 03:45:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : st thomas also teaches that women can sin mortally in the event that they were to adorn themselvs in such a fashion as is intended by them to evoke lust in men
brenton_spears : But those women who have no husband nor wish to have one, or who are in a state of life inconsistent with marriage, cannot without sin desire to give lustful pleasure to those men who see them, because this is to incite them to sin. And if indeed they adorn themselves with this intention of provoking others to lust, they sin mortally; whereas if they do so from frivolity, or from vanity for the sake of ostentation, it is not always mortal, but sometimes venial.
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 03:46:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : it is clear then that women would need to be careful about how they dress
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 03:47:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : nus fra why are you repeating fragments of my prior postings
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 03:48:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : it is clear that naturalistic evolution cannot possibly have occurred....
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 03:49:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : this is because even the most fundamental of biological structures are irreducibly complex
deadman_932 : brenton, please... are you a behe follower? if so, define your terms and prove your case.
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 03:50:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:00:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : when the pope said that evolution could have occurred..he only meant to say that it would not be incompatible with what christianity posits about god and the manner in which god should have seen fit to create men...that the bodies of men should be supposed to have been derived by means of a process whereby different organisms are made, in succession of one another, to exchange amongst themselves, the respective systems of constituents which do comprise each of their respective bodies.....on this view then it would not be incompatible with christianity that the matter of the bodies of men were supplied them by means of such a processs as is not dissimilar to the process of evolution as most contemporary biologists shall have defined it....but with the important proviso that such a process must be deemed on this view of the matter to have served only as a means whereby god should have seen fit to bring it about that bodies of men should have been made ready to accomodate their souls, when these, for their part, shall have finally been created by God himself directly....
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:01:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deadman_932 : jeez, more of brenton's inane ramblings
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:02:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : and in fact the evidence supports this view of the matter..because biological systems at however miniscule a scale are to be observed..do all alike disclose themselves each to be irreducibly complex
brenton_spears : and in fact the evidence supports this view of the matter..because biological systems at however miniscule a scale THEY are to be observed..do all alike disclose themselves each to be irreducibly complex
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:04:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : rooom...nus fra...just praised my posts
brenton_spears : he said...they contained brilliant scientific insights
brenton_spears : and he is right
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:05:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:08:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : so what we must affirm in respect of the theory of evolution is that at best it merely accounts for how human bodies have been produced..and that it is unable to accomplish even this by such a mechanism as is natural selection working on chance variations ..
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:09:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : the fact is that the cell bears evidence of its having been designed by an intelligent agent
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:10:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : dr michael behe (whose book has been reviewed in nature and was also acclaimed as the very best book for a certain year by christianity today) has amply documented the evidence bearing out this conclusion
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:11:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : biological structures at whatever level of scale they are observed..may be seen to be irreducibly complex...
deadman_932 : heh, brenton, you're simply a fool
brenton_spears : this was darwin's black box..
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:12:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : he never dreamed of the staggering compexity disclosed by the structure of even a single cell..nay even a single part of a single celll..
brenton_spears : this was his black box...whose contents were beyond his ability to fathom
deadman_932 : brenton, can you defend that view at all, or willyou just keep posting canned crap again?
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:13:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
rhilltop2000 :
brenton_spears : it is only with the emergence of teh science of molecular biology.....that we are now in a position to see just how shockingly complex the cell is...
brenton_spears : wittgenstein would have been shocked..
brenton_spears : his breath would have been taken away
brenton_spears : to look into the cell....is to see something designed by god..
deadman_932 : since wittgenstein was part of the vienna circle and a staunch evolutionist, i think you're wrong, brenton
brenton_spears : intelligent design..that is what the latest scientific findings confirm
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:14:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:15:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : that he may have been deadman...but my point is that this should have been partly because he had never reckoned with the staggering complexity disclosed by the structure of the cell...a structure revealed in all of its details only recently by molecular biology....
brenton_spears : darwin's black box was his as well...
brenton_spears : the cell is shocking
brenton_spears : scary
brenton_spears : frightening
brenton_spears : horrific
deadman_932 : brenton, since you personally know NOTHING about molecular biology, i doubt you are qualified to say that
brenton_spears : to see it is to see that we have been designed
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:16:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : deadman is already getting frightened as i am make these points...
deadman_932 : intelligent-design theorists invoke shadowy entities that conveniently have whatever unconstrained abilities are needed to solve the mystery at hand. Rather than expanding scientific inquiry, such answers shut it down. (How does one disprove the existence of omnipotent intelligences?)
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:17:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deadman_932 : brenton...no one is "frightened of your ramblings..rather we post them in the AvC community and in gremlin's place and laugh at your insane ramblings
brenton_spears : the odds against a structure like the cell having evolved naturalistically are staggering/....unbelievable except on the supposition of the intervention of an intelligent agent...the supposition that such a agent had superintended , controlled directed..and perpetuated that process whereby these structures were produced...
brenton_spears : what is the 'avc community'...???
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:18:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:19:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : hey deadman i thought my postings only appeared on gremlin...what is this other 'avc community'...
brenton_spears : could u provide a link to it??
deadman_932 : "Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."-- Nobel Laureate physicist Steven Weinberg:
brenton_spears : steven weinberg is dumb
brenton_spears : he is not that intelligent
deadman_932 : heh, brenton, when you win a nobel prize, you tell me about it
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:20:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : weinberg is real dumb...that book of his..dreams of a final theory served only to demonstrate to me how dumb a guy he was...
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:21:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:22:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : what a joke weinberg is...it seemed to be saying that with the advent of a unified field theory (which he seemed to think would soon be formulated)...all phenomena could in principle be deemed explicable...he seems never to have heard of nonlinear dynamics..
brenton_spears : weinberg is dumber than hawking...
brenton_spears : many nobel winners in physics are dumb..not all..but many are dumb
brenton_spears : penzias is dumb
brenton_spears : glashow is dumb
deadman_932 : hah
brenton_spears : weinberg is dumb
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:23:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : Brenton's last bullshit got posted twice. I especially liked the ending, where he left crying because his beloved Aquinas didn't scare Gremlin.
deadman_932 : brenton, it's amazing how you ramble on with totally unsupported assertions , despite the fact that you know little or nothing about science itself beyond a few names
brenton_spears : by contrast some nobel laureates in physics are smart....like daniel tsui..abdus salam...heyyyyyy hunter..u dont say..come on give me a break
hunter_the_crazychick : brenton: shall I start with your nose?
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:24:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : in fact most theoretical physicists (who are not nobel winners)...are brighter than those physicists who are (whether theoretical or otherwise)..
brenton_spears : weinberg is dumber than hawking...and weinberg won a nobel
deadman_932 : ummmm...brenton,,, wienberg and hawking a and most of those you mentioned ARE theoreticla physicists, asshole
deadman_932 : theoretical
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:25:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : weinberg is not very bright mathematically.....and even less so philosophically...
hunter_the_crazychick : deadman: you expect him to know the difference?
deadman_932 : lol, brenton, you really are hilarious
deadman_932 : brenton, do you know even calculus?
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:26:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : deadman..are u kidding...it is practically my forte..
deadman_932 : really, brenton?
deadman_932 : much like all your claims, will i find out you're lying againm, brenton?
brenton_spears : i derived a complex differential equation that no one else could/..to account for the variation of a certain quantity with respect to some other
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:27:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deadman_932 : lol brenton, can you please lay out that equation?
deadman_932 : or better yet, brenton, where is your fantastic work published?
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:28:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:29:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : Deadman: what's he claiming to be good at this time?
deadman_932 : he claimed multivariate differentials, hunter
deadman_932 : brenton_spears: i derived a complex differential equation that no one else could/..to account for the variation of a certain quantity with respect to some other
hunter_the_crazychick : Deadman: I'm guessing that's right up there with his understanding of law because he goes to church with someone who went to 'Harvard law'.
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:30:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : i cant..but my keyboard doesnt have the requisite range of symbols to enable me to do that....i didnt publish it...and it really doesnt deserve to be published per se....in the sense that it should be regarded as being in the nature of a problem whose solution should in principle have been derivable ultimately from known methods of solving similar problems
deadman_932 : heh, hunter...the boy is insanely amusing, i'll grant him that
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:31:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : anyway...i used to be brilliant at the subject....i could in many cases arrive at the solution faster than others........
deadman_932 : i'm sure you think that's true, brenton
hunter_the_crazychick : notices how brenton talks like he's older than he portrayed himself as originally.
brenton_spears : but ....i must admit that there are mathematical geniuses..bona fide ones..from whom i have evrything to learn..and to whom i could teach nothing....like john nash..for example...or others like him ..
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:32:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : but my strength is that i am good at so many subjects...
deadman_932 : nash is a statistician, assbite
brenton_spears : i am not a true genius..because i cannot innovate...
brenton_spears : i lack originality
brenton_spears : but i can mimic very well..
hunter_the_crazychick : Brenton: quick. Pretend you're smart.
brenton_spears : i can be taught and become very very good at what i have been taught
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:33:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : meaning i can get stellar grades on almost all my courses..
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:34:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : i am not a mathematical genius ..i am not claiming that..that is ridiculous..but i really was brilliant at calculus....and i did derive that equation...myself...it's not a big deal though..because the tools were at hand so to speak for solving it...existing theorems would have enabled its solution ...provided that one were sufficiently familiar with them..what shocked my classmates..was that i could have such a familiarity
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:35:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : one of my best subjects was mathematics...by the way...
deadman_932 : i'm sure you think so, brenton
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:36:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:37:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : sorry had a phone call...
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:38:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : deadman what is this avc community u talked about earlier
deadman_932 : none of your business, brenton
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:39:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deadman_932 : we post your more amusing statements there and laugh about them
hunter_the_crazychick : brenton: i'd be more concerned about gremlin.net, instead of some private group.
deadman_932 : lol, hnter has a much more extensive collection of your ramblings, brenton
brenton_spears : yeah well be kind to me, k??
brenton_spears : i am a good guy, k?
brenton_spears : i am not a bad guy
brenton_spears : right
deadman_932 : we are, brenton, we only laugh individually
hunter_the_crazychick : brenton: be kind? You're a good guy? You're such a fucking liar.
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:41:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : i just am trying to convert people..that is all...ok...
brenton_spears : dont think of me as so different from u...hey i eat too u know and drink
hunter_the_crazychick : brenton: and you're doing a lovely job; you're converting people into atheist symphatisers.
deadman_932 : by lying, brenton?
deadman_932 : ahh, well, i guess that's permitted in your eyes
brenton_spears : yes i do these activities in a dignified fashion..spartanly one might say...
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:42:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : 'spartanly'. *snorts*
deadman_932 : how can you lie "spartanly" brenton?
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:43:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : look deadman..believe it or not i do know the truth about myself..and the formulation of the aforesaid equation was indeed one of my finest hours....i keep a copy of it in my wallet in fact.....i even set forth what its boundary conditions were....but anyway that was before,...right now...well just understand that i am a good guy..ok
hunter_the_crazychick : deadman: doesn't 'spartanly' refer back to something with a rather homosexual connotation?
brenton_spears : fundamentally hunter i am a good guy
brenton_spears : i treat women with tenderness
brenton_spears : ]i protect them..
brenton_spears : i am a gentleman
hunter_the_crazychick : Brenton: sure you are.
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:44:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : Brenton: that's why you didn't give up your seat to the pregnant woman; because you're a 'gentleman'.
deadman_932 : brenton, i'm not sure how you can call yourself a "good guy " when you persist in lying and in inane ramblings rather than just dealing with subjects directly
brenton_spears : i am hunter..and i am not saying this because i have feelings for u and want to wrest you from gremlin (i dont even know how u look like..and from what i feel has been made manifest of the nature of your personality ..i must say that i dont think we would be happy togther as a couple)...
brenton_spears : but it is just that i dont bear towards u ill-will..
brenton_spears : i would pray for u..and indeed do so...that u and your bf can come to know jesus
brenton_spears : remember im big about jesus...that's what defines me
brenton_spears : i love him..period
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:46:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : Brenton: Oh, wouldn't *I* be a prize. Atheistic female stolen and converted from your 'arch-nemesis', as you keep playing him up to be. Fuck you're a dramaqueen.
brenton_spears : and i want to share the joy that has come into my life through jesus..with u and dead and everybody..that's it...
brenton_spears : no no no..i dont steal girlfriends from others...that has never been my policy..
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:47:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deadman_932 : brenton..you'd need to stop lying and start being coherent to impress me
brenton_spears : besides i don't begrudge gremlin his greatness
deadman_932 : i mean, this is the most coherent i've ever seen you, brenton
garrett_kreuz : ahem.....Brenton, can we chat for a bit? about this whole conversion thing
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:48:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : i know gremlin is great and in his own fashion (not to mention his own estimate of the mattter)...i could even bring myself to acknowledge that he is decent...
brenton_spears : after all gremlin does know corey...and that is some feat i think
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:49:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : anyway to clear this up..let me say that hunter is not my type
garrett_kreuz : Brenton.....if you don't fucking acknowledge me I will nuke your comp.....
deadman_932 : nor are you her type, brenton
garrett_kreuz : now...
garrett_kreuz : about conversion..
hunter_the_crazychick : Brenton: of course I'm not. I'm not the type to go for idiots like you.
deadman_932 : you're just fantasizing about that which you cannot ever, ever have
brenton_spears : yesterday..gremlin said..that he has no control over what hunter puts up on her web-site..and hunter responded by confirming that in fact gremlin isnt allowed to excericse that sort of control over her....
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:50:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : but this is despite hunter and grem being a couple..
peachlet420 : and brenton?
brenton_spears : i cant imagine being with a girl who wouldnt let me have that control over her
peachlet420 : you think in order for someone to be in a relationship you have to control her?
garrett_kreuz : WHAT?
deadman_932 : brenton: which is why you're single
garrett_kreuz : lol
peachlet420 : lol dead
brenton_spears : because if she is my girl..i would want to control even what she reads..what movies she watches..the friends she has...
hunter_the_crazychick : Brenton: you're right. He has no control over what I decide to put up on coffeechick.com. Ondo has the technical [and legal] ability to delete stuff, and Gremlin has the passwords, but he won't do it.
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:51:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
reptylinin2 : Brenton, you sound like a misogynist prick.
brenton_spears : that's why hunter can't be my type no matter how pretty she is (i dont know what she looks like though)
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:52:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : at best the likes of hunter and myself could only be platonic friends..
hunter_the_crazychick : brenton: I make no effort to hide my looks. Go ahead and view my profile, or my website.
deadman_932 : hunter is a prize that you could never attain, brenton
brenton_spears : no hunter..i wont do u the discourtesy of doing that..it strikes me as somehow improper...looking at what u have written is no problem for me though...
deadman_932 : she's gorgeous and intelligent and witty....exactly the opposite of the woman you would find, brenton
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:53:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : brenton: i'm giving you permission.
brenton_spears : still..i dunno...it just doesnt seem right to me....i guess i wont...but thanks for the offer anyway.....
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:54:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : what question garrett..please be so kind as to repeat it for my benefit..thanks dude..
hunter_the_crazychick : deadman: he's going to find someone exactly like his mother. If not his mother....
deadman_932 : that was my guess too, hinter
deadman_932 : hunter*
garrett_kreuz : I asked if you were into the Slave and Master fetish type
garrett_kreuz : if so....well....I know a few people
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:55:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : no way garrett..im not even sure what that means..i have a nebulous idea...but.....noo....fetishes are just wrong for me....
brenton_spears : i just want for myself a decent obedient christian female..
brenton_spears : who will do my bidding
brenton_spears : and show herself to be obedient to my will..
hunter_the_crazychick : Zombie: brenton thinks he and I could be 'platonic friends'.
brenton_spears : and be teachable as well.
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:56:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
garrett_kreuz : well....sorry to say Brenton...but unless you're in Utah you won't find much out in the world
zombie_wants_you_dead : Brenton: You got the collar all ready to go?
brenton_spears : no hunter you really aren't my type..dont worry i avoid girls like u like the plague in real life...
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:57:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : i dont like smarty-pants women...who try to talk back..and with what cheek they show in doing so...
deadman_932 : brenton, you've never seen a woman naked, much less a "cheek"
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:58:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gmitchm : hunter, i think brenton is worried you'd make him your bitch
garrett_kreuz : lmfao! I see you've run into vlad too hunter.
hunter_the_crazychick : gmitchm: my little mexican houseboy.
zombie_wants_you_dead : . o O ( FIRE BAD! FIRE BAD! )
zombie_wants_you_dead : ahems
brenton_spears : no no deadman.....cheek in the sense of audacity..a sort of audacity calculated to offend...to shock sensibilities..that sort of thing
deadman_932 : i know what you meant, brenton
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:59:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deadman_932 : it's called a "pun" brenton
brenton_spears : anyway i dont steal girlfriends...i dont believe that in doing that
brenton_spears : oic dead i get it now
hunter_the_crazychick : brenton: you're not capable, kid.
hunter_the_crazychick : smiles serenely.
zombie_wants_you_dead : You stole that from me.
zombie_wants_you_dead : smiles serenely.
hunter_the_crazychick : Zombie: Yar. I also stole *that* from you.
brenton_spears : i think i am ..in the case of the girlfriends of most of the guys i have known....some of them even hit on me...
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:00:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
zombie_wants_you_dead : Yar yar.
hunter_the_crazychick : twitches, and drops her knife.
brenton_spears : but i must admit that even as an unregenerate person i never did go out with smart chicks..
hunter_the_crazychick : Brenton doesn't find the brains attractive.
garrett_kreuz : AH HAHA
garrett_kreuz : lol
hunter_the_crazychick : licks zombie's brain.
zombie_wants_you_dead : God hates brains and so does Brenton.
hunter_the_crazychick : nods at zombie.
zombie_wants_you_dead : licks Hunter's brain.
peachlet420 : lol zombie
hunter_the_crazychick : shivers.
zombie_wants_you_dead : smiles serenely
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:01:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : initially it was just with the easy chicks (i mean easy for me...but they were untouchable as far as most of the rest of my peers were concerned..many were cheerleaders..all were drop-dead gorgeous)..
hunter_the_crazychick : Cheerleaders = untouchable. In what reality?
garrett_kreuz : Benton....not too be mean or anything (not that kind of guy tonight) But....just how many girlfriends have you had?
zombie_wants_you_dead : cheerleaders= beersluts at my high school...
peachlet420 : and cheerleaders weren't even that hot
brenton_spears : dates...it used to be every weekend..steadys just 2...
zombie_wants_you_dead : For real.
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:02:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : now im single
brenton_spears : totally single
brenton_spears : i dont even date
hunter_the_crazychick : Cheerleaders are like freeways -- lots of entrances, exits, and wide, wide tunnels.
garrett_kreuz : and how might I ask did you achieve that?
zombie_wants_you_dead : Except for your mommy, Brenton.
hunter_the_crazychick : And most of the cheerleaders at school were chunky.
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:03:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:04:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears :
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:05:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:06:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears :
hunter_the_crazychick : Zombie: I made it through highschool unscathed thanks to my habit of giggling during dissections. =)
brenton_spears : whooo u dissected???
brenton_spears : a girl???
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:07:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : i never did do that....it isnt cool...
brenton_spears : yeah study about their insides abstractly..even that isnt too cool
brenton_spears : but dont touch them
brenton_spears : ever
hunter_the_crazychick : brenton: no. I dissected worms, insects, a pigs heart, a cow's eye, a mink, a pig, a frog, a fish, a crayfish, and several other small, minor animals.
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:08:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
zombie_wants_you_dead : dissected a bebe shark. :X
deadman_932 : brenton, it's really fun to masturbate with their internal organs.
brenton_spears : youre definitely not my type hunter
brenton_spears : no worries on that score
kenboyred : brenton, somehow I don't she's going to lie away at night worrying about it
brenton_spears : i prefer my girls feminine
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:09:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
zombie_wants_you_dead : Brenton: What's 'feminine'?
kenboyred : brenton, have you seen hunters picture, she's quite feminine......
zombie_wants_you_dead : wears skirts more often than she wears pants...does that count?
hunter_the_crazychick : is all willowy
brenton_spears : waitttttt.zombie is female????
hunter_the_crazychick : Brenton: SURPRISE!
zombie_wants_you_dead : Brenton: Indeed.
zombie_wants_you_dead : WEE!
garrett_kreuz : ah hahaha!
hunter_the_crazychick : crawls into zombie's cleavage.
deadman_932 : hunter IS willowy and slender and graceful, especially when she falls all over
kenboyred : brenton, are assuming because a woman seeks knowledge by disecting already dead animals, that they are somehow less feminine?
zombie_wants_you_dead : pets Hunter.
brenton_spears : but u got a name like zombie...like who ever heard of a female zombie??
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:10:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : stares at brenton.
hunter_the_crazychick : WHOEVER HEARD OF A FEMALE ZOMBIE?
zombie_wants_you_dead : Brenton: Awww. Did I give you a complex?
kenboyred : brenton, watch dawn of the dead, there's plenty of them?
hunter_the_crazychick : screams.
garrett_kreuz : I have
zombie_wants_you_dead : Hunter: Julie.
garrett_kreuz : oh crap
deadman_932 : brenton, there's lots of female zombies...read the serpent and the rainbow
brenton_spears : kenboy...yeah...ken...theyr arent in touch with their own femininity...
brenton_spears : that's a bad book
hunter_the_crazychick : There's a female zombie in the EvilDead series.
brenton_spears : wade davis right
brenton_spears : that's a real bad book
hunter_the_crazychick : There's female zombies all over night/dawn/day of the dead.
deadman_932 : mmmm..zombie, get the frontal lobes next time
brenton_spears : i cant read it
kenboyred : brenton, I know this is probably stating the obvious.........but.....you're not very bright, are you?
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:11:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
garrett_kreuz : hell even RE has female zombies
hunter_the_crazychick : Return of the living dead had a female zombie -- a naked one. Return 3 focused on a female zombie.
inflateablesoulmate : christian women might as well be zombies...
kenboyred : would love to be in touch with hunter's femininity
hunter_the_crazychick : Garret: yup.
hunter_the_crazychick : Res has female zombies; silent hill technically has female zombies -- the nursebeasts.
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:12:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : i do my best...but ill leave the assessment of my own intelligence to others...suitably competent....and to objective criteria...
brenton_spears : anyway guys i have to be going..hey jesus' peace be with all of u k?
brenton_spears : i hope u see the light soon...
inflateablesoulmate : good choice BS
brenton_spears : my deepest wish for all of u
hunter_the_crazychick : Brenton:In about an hour, I will.
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:13:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : The sun will be up then.
brenton_spears : from the bottom of my heart
brenton_spears : i wasnt talking about the sun's light but the SOn's Light (hows that for a pun dead)
brenton_spears : see i know what a pun is too
hunter_the_crazychick : Brenton: that was bad; your punning license is revoked.
zombie_wants_you_dead : Brenton: Not very good.
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:14:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : i do my best..anyway i was real sincere with that remark..
brenton_spears : and o yeah tell gremlin to scare corey by mentioning to him the words...'thomas aquinas'
hunter_the_crazychick : laughs at brenton.
brenton_spears : man that is soooo scary
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:15:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
zombie_wants_you_dead : Brenton: Thomas Aquinas is not scary....
hunter_the_crazychick : Brenton: no. It's not.
brenton_spears : ill bet dead is scared too...lol
hunter_the_crazychick : Brenton: Aquinas is a dead, womanhating 'tard.
deadman_932 : lol, i have the summa here, brenton, and it's laughable
brenton_spears : deadman..aquinas is universally acclaimed as one of the greatest christian thinkers of all time...
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:16:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : Brenton: that's what you said last time, when Gremlin informed you that Aquinas wasn't impressive at all.
zombie_wants_you_dead : has never been impressed with Aquinas...
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:17:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : anyway..here's a different tactic then....why not read the nt for yourselves..and see if doing so cant induce u to fall in love with jesus
hunter_the_crazychick : brenton: I'm sure we have.
zombie_wants_you_dead : I have read the NT, Brenton.
deadman_932 : lol, brenton, i've read it , and it's worse than aquinas
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:18:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : ok what about craig then deadman??
brenton_spears : william lane craig?
deadman_932 : brenton, go to bed before i have to slap your ass around
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:19:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : yeah i should be going true....remember christ loves u.....ok...he died for u....remember that
zombie_wants_you_dead : Hunter: After I finish this cigarette, I am going to go lay down. Then I will write that thingie.
deadman_932 : santa loves you too, brenton
brenton_spears : heyyy wait.....zombie smokes??/
zombie_wants_you_dead : . o O ( Momma loves her baby. )
hunter_the_crazychick : Brenton: Surprise.
brenton_spears : what kind of a bad girl is she??
zombie_wants_you_dead : Yes, Zombie smokes!
zombie_wants_you_dead : And Zombie is a girl!
brenton_spears : bad girls smoke
zombie_wants_you_dead : A BAD GIRL!
hunter_the_crazychick : Brenton: Smart, female, and a smoker!
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:20:12 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : hunter too???
deadman_932 : yep and she fornicates,too...wantonly
hunter_the_crazychick : Brenton: no. I don't smoke.
zombie_wants_you_dead : wantonly fornicates?
zombie_wants_you_dead : Not lately. :(
hunter_the_crazychick : Brenton: I'm not a true 'bad girl'.
hunter_the_crazychick : wantonly fornicates. Or is that 'wants to fornicate'....
zombie_wants_you_dead : I would do more wanton fornicating if I could.
zombie_wants_you_dead : Brenton: Guess what else?
zombie_wants_you_dead : I've got two kids!
hunter_the_crazychick : trembles.
brenton_spears : yeah i gues so hunter...that is why i would like to think that u are eminently convertible.
zombie_wants_you_dead : AND I'M NOT MARRIED!
brenton_spears : what?????????
hunter_the_crazychick : gasps!
hunter_the_crazychick : Zombie: how many fathers?
zombie_wants_you_dead : TWO!
hunter_the_crazychick : screams!
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:21:12 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
kenboyred : wants to be here the day brenton converts hunter to christianity
zombie_wants_you_dead : dancie dancie
brenton_spears : get out of here...do ulive in the real world..or what??????????
kenboyred : I think the world would implode
hunter_the_crazychick : giggles.
kenboyred : at the very least, gremlin's head would explode
deadman_932 : i think one was ...(whispers) black! , too, brenton.
hunter_the_crazychick : stares at deadman. HOW DARE YOU!
zombie_wants_you_dead : Brenton: Yes, that's right. I'm smart, female, a smoker, with two kids, and I'm not married!
deadman_932 : lol
zombie_wants_you_dead : Deadman: Naw. Both white. :P
brenton_spears : anyway i really have to be going dudes...this convo has taken a distinct turn for the worse...anyway for their sake dont have sex k???
kenboyred : Zombie, you're a "gasp" single parent
deadman_932 : oh...well, i tried>:(
kenboyred : how very unchristian of you
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:22:12 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
zombie_wants_you_dead : Kenboyred: Horror horror, shock shock.
brenton_spears : cos if u were my mom..i wouldnt want u to be having sex...
deadman_932 : is having sex even as we speak, brenton
brenton_spears : that is not what a mom is supposed to like do..
hunter_the_crazychick : Brenton: And I'm smart, female, generally naked, not opposed to smoking. I drink, I live with someone I'm not married to. I sleep with the same person.
zombie_wants_you_dead : Guess what else? I'm only 12. I got pregnant when I was 17. :O
hunter_the_crazychick : is out of control.
kenboyred : Zombie, get your ass to church and ask for god's forgiveness
hunter_the_crazychick : is a goddamn Girl Gone Wild.
zombie_wants_you_dead : 21^
zombie_wants_you_dead : Damn. Not 12.
brenton_spears : zombie u need christ
zombie_wants_you_dead : Kenboyred: I presume you are not serious.
hunter_the_crazychick : Deadman: damn, that's talent.
brenton_spears : i think ill work on u the next time
deadman_932 : videotapes hunter for posterity
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:23:12 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
zombie_wants_you_dead : Brenton: I need Christ like I need a six inch hole in the back of my head. :)
kenboyred : Zombie......you presume correctly......;)
deadman_932 : hunter: i have three arms
hunter_the_crazychick : flashes Deadman, and demands a Jerry Springer retribution of cheap beads.
hunter_the_crazychick : deadman: spiffy.
garrett_kreuz : Hey brenton
brenton_spears : dont worry zomb..u can join a church where uwill be counselled by a godly pastor and youll have many christian sisters to help u
deadman_932 : tosses hunter multiple strands for her outstanding hooters
garrett_kreuz : you never said anything
zombie_wants_you_dead : Brenton: No, I can't.
hunter_the_crazychick : does a little dance.
garrett_kreuz : I asked how you managed to get all those dates
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:24:12 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : thinks she should crawl /out/ of zombie's cleavage before she attempts another little dance.
zombie_wants_you_dead : Garrett: Not now. He's trying to save my soul, while salivating over my profile pic.
hunter_the_crazychick : giggles madly.
brenton_spears : and zombie...remember thomas aquinas...think about him..if he were alive wouldnt u want him to be proud of u???
deadman_932 : mmmm...zombies cleavage....
kenboyred : Zombie, can you blame him, I mean, that's some nice cleavage
zombie_wants_you_dead : Brenton: Nope.
hunter_the_crazychick : Zombie: would you care if Aquinas was ashamed of you?
garrett_kreuz : wishful thinking Brenton
zombie_wants_you_dead : . o O ( What Would Thomas Aquinas Do? )
zombie_wants_you_dead : Hunter: I don't guess I'd give a fuck.
hunter_the_crazychick : WWTAD?
deadman_932 : aquinas was a fat sinner anyway...and he's dead
hunter_the_crazychick : twitches.
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:25:12 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : i looked at zombie's profile....no im not salivating...but she does look a little feisty and fierce to me...
zombie_wants_you_dead : Well, I don't know about you folks...but I'm having fun.
hunter_the_crazychick : And brenton won't look at my profile?
zombie_wants_you_dead : is fiesty and fierce.
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:26:12 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : maybe if she reads aquinas she'll get scared and then itll be alright...shell be back to normal again
zombie_wants_you_dead : Hunter is much hotter than I am, Brenton. Give 'er a little look-see.
garrett_kreuz : normals no fun brenton
hunter_the_crazychick : fits in zombie's cleavage, too.
brenton_spears : ok ill look at hunter's profile too
zombie_wants_you_dead : Brenton: I've read Aquinas. I wasn't scared. I laughed...a lot.
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:27:12 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : picture can't load....it doesnt matter anyway...i have seen enough of hunter's personality to know that she and i would be incompatible....
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:28:12 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
garrett_kreuz : note to room.......brenton is now a chronic masturbator...using hunters pic as reference
brenton_spears : and deadman said that one of zombie's kids was black..but that can't be because she is white...it doesnt make sense right?..was that deadman's pun too?
brenton_spears : no no...i dont want to do that...under any circumstances..
zombie_wants_you_dead : Brenton: Neither of my kids are black. Calm down.
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:29:12 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : ]its a sin to masturbate...
hunter_the_crazychick : notes that http://coffeechick.com/hunter-gator.jpeg is loading for her
zombie_wants_you_dead : checks
zombie_wants_you_dead : Loaded for me, too...
hunter_the_crazychick : also notes that http://coffeechick.com/images/hunterfedora2.jpg loads
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:30:12 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
zombie_wants_you_dead : Loaded for me, too.
garrett_kreuz : nice eyes and hair hunter
hunter_the_crazychick : This one also loads, but it's bad: http://gremlin.net/images/dv/gremandhunter.jpg
hunter_the_crazychick : Webcam shot.
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:31:12 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
zombie_wants_you_dead : has never seen Gremlin.
deadman_932 : is completely hard looking at hunter
zombie_wants_you_dead : Well, blarg.
hunter_the_crazychick : Zombie: it's kinda hard to tell what he looks like, due to the fact that he always keeps his face out of the picture.
zombie_wants_you_dead : He's got a mask on. :P
hunter_the_crazychick : nods.
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:32:12 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:33:12 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deadman_932 : i like the fedora one best...i'll have to keep that for later ...ahem..."use"
zombie_wants_you_dead : laughs at Deadman.
brenton_spears : anyway see you guys...and i can see now how i have my work cut out for me....as a christian apologist
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:34:12 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : girls should be girls..and yet we have such feisty ones...what to do....must explore aquinas for solutions..see ya
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:35:12 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : i dont know what vespertine is..i hope it isnt a bad word
zombie_wants_you_dead : Brenton: Are you ever leaving?
garrett_kreuz : Brenton....don't worry...dictionary.com doesn't have curse words
LOG DATA Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:36:12 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears : zombie please don't she isnt my type....not in any possible world...maybe in hell though..( a joke, a half-joke)
brenton_spears :
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