brenton_spears : Male from Beverly Hills, CA
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:18:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:19:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:20:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:21:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : well welll well...as all of you here know full well..on all of my previous forays into this room...i have never failed to deal with the various compex questions many of u have rasied with me
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:22:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:23:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:24:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : quantum physics, intelligent design, rational proofs for God's existence, alleged disproofs of his existence, big bang cosmology...on of these topics have i boldly ventured to set forth what might be termed a christian view of them, serving in doing so, to demonstrate the unsurpassable rationality of the worldview disclosed by my holy faith
     tswonderwoman : shines a targeting laser on brenton, and uses her wrisst radio to call in carpet bombing
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:25:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : and in addition to demonstrating the truth of christian premises via disclosing how they are supported by the findings garnered by the latest scientific research..i have also endeavoured to apply these christian premises having assumed their truth ..to various ethical questions
     phlegm_noir : is brenton new? Or has it really been that long since I've been around?
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:26:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : phlegm_noir: hit http://board.grem.tv -- lots of Brenton transcripts there.
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:27:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : so for instance regarding whether it is permissible that women should breastfeed their infants in the public eye...my answer to this question , namely , 'no'....has been demonstrated by me to be derivable from christian premises...
     teapotagnostic : Brenton - science is not capable of addressing the existence of an immaterial entity. Drop the crap!
     phlegm_noir : Are his comments always so dripping with arrogance? If so, I'll skip the transcripts, thanks.
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : phlegm_noir: yeah, but the transcripts establish his history of being blatantly dishonest, arrogant, and claiming victory when he has lost.
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:28:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     phlegm_noir : Perhaps he's really just here to entertain. A performance artist, if you will.
     phlegm_noir : The breast-feeding comment, for instance, was particularly assinine. I enjoyed it.
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:29:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : plhegm: he's just full of it.
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:30:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : in a particularly shining moment ..whilst in contention with indon...i also established that the only adequate base for a universally-binding system of ethics is a transcendent one....and since amongst religious systems that posit such a base christianity is the most internally self-consistent....i also demonstrated that such a conclusion can indeed rather it lend itself easily to being appropriated by the christian apologist for the purposes of constructing an argument for the truth of christianity via the establishment of the inherent superiority of its system of ethics
     phlegm_noir : Well, if Brenton really represents the acme of christian apologetics, I think I"ll split.
     brenton_spears : lends not lend...sorry...note the grammatical error......
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:31:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : so i have really dealt with a gigantic variety of topics...
     tswonderwoman : sprays brenton with her very best urine
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : brenton_spears: all of which have transcripts posted to the board, where people can read the /reality/ of the situation, and see you lose.
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:32:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : most especially of all.....the place of women in society..how they are to conduct themselves in public....what sort of behaviour might it be expected of a woman that it should be becoming of her in her capacity as such publicly (or even otherwise) to exhibit...
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:33:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : i have dealt with all of these complicated topics and indeed valiantly set forth the christian position on each of them..in the teeth of frightfully intense opposition.......
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:34:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : resident luminaries of this room..such as indon and alcyonian...have i taken down....in debate..and i am not even fully trained...think skywalker in empire..vs vader......
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:35:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     esotericx10 : brenton_spears Yes...really...you are delusional
     brenton_spears : just imagine the manner of man i should prove myself when once i complete my tertiary education..the sky is veritably the limit for me....
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:36:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : but i will be harnessing all my gifts in singlemanded pursuit of the end of winning souls for christ....i wont be engaged in self-aggrandisement of any sort...such indeed is my manifesto...
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:37:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : if u knew the awe in which i am held by my peers ..the grim and ominous silences that descend on rooms i walk into....and the rapidity with which these silences descend...yea..then shall ye know the manner of the man with which you do have to do in me...
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:38:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : eso: didn't I see something about no 'self-aggrandizing', or whatever he said, earlier?
     brenton_spears : if u knew how quickly gaggles of schoolgirls abrupty cease their laughter ,,,when i walk into rooms wherein they are seated...
     esotericx10 : hunter_the_crazychick He is as a glass under a running faucet...overflowing with himself but never full
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:39:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : eso: nice comparison....
     brenton_spears : if u knew how my football team regard me...the awe in which even superlatively physically conditioned men.....who are in the prime of their health and very near the peak of their physical powers...are apt to hold me...if you knew how they regard me.....
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:40:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : bitchslaps brenton.
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : Get over yourself, you pansy ass muttfucker.
     brenton_spears : if you knew how the girls i used to date regard me.....the sway that in my days of my unregenaracy ...i had held over them...and even over the many whom i then did not deem would make me fitting dates...because they were too ugly....
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:41:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : unregeneracy....
     ondoher1 : brenton: has anybody ever told you that you are a dipshit?
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : ondo: we've been mocking him on the board.
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : ondo: we've even got an 'unofficial' quotes post.
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : Since he begged and pleaded never to be quoted directly.
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:42:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     ondoher1 : hunter: and for good reason. he is infinitely mockable
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : nods.
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : ondo: the one I just posted is where I decided to establish a pattern of dishonesty, and where rotten basically thumped the living shit out of him for pretending to be first from Beverly Hills and then from England.
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:43:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     wildbillnm : from the beginning God was revealed and yet man wanders away
     ondoher1 : hunter: ahhh. I caught part of that one
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : ondo: yeah, I think you were in here for a bit of it.
     brenton_spears : if you knew how the girls in my church hang their hands down in shame..whenever my shadow passes over their heads.....how they dare not look up at me..and into my eyes....afraid as they are indeed of what they might each find themselves to be feeling if they did so.....if you knew how i even reduced one girl to tears..simply through the forcefulness with which i had set about critiquing a position she had expressed in the company of myself and others
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:44:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : then you would know the manner of man that i am indeed....
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : brenton beats on girls to make him feel better.
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : brenton: yeah, a shitsucking scumbag.
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : brenton: you make your trailer park daddy proud, don't you.
     ondoher1 : brenton picks on nine year olds and then brags in the chat room about it :))
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : nods at ondo.
     banana_annie : pride goeth before a fall, brenton
     esotericx10 : brenton_spears You're so full of shit your eyes are brown...you're a legend in your own mind as the saying goes
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : Brenton's gonna be worthy of that wifebeater TShirt.
     brenton_spears : i am cast in the mould of an ancient epic european hero...think beowulf as someone has just suggested...
     brenton_spears : the lone man battling the forces of chaos....
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:45:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : the odds stacked against him...
     ondoher1 : brenton more resembles grndl
     brenton_spears : but yet because he is a man of destiny
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : brenton: ancient epic european hero? What, bad teeth, worse personality, and likely to die at any given moment because he's too retarded to know not to tongue the lightsocket?
     brenton_spears : yea in the teeth of innumerable odds he prevails....
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:46:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     esotericx10 : brenton_spears The only thing I see is a man in a state of delusion and denial
     brenton_spears : like the myth of the 13th warrior...the one man one whom everything depends...on which the outcome of he final conflict depends.....
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : eso: Man? He's a /boy/. I doubt his testicles have dropped yet.
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : And if they have...he shouldn't be sleeping with mommy....
     ondoher1 : brenton: only the truly pitiful have to build themselves up in front of strangers
     franklin121 : lol Hunter
     frozenshade2001 : good one hunter
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:47:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     banana_annie : wonders if brenton can flex his pecs
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : Hey...wait a minute. When he mentioned that...that was only a little while ago. And yet he lives with 'daddy' the *snort* 'lawyer' in *giggle* England?
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : Lookie lookie, another lie.
     brenton_spears : where 1 failed where 2.....where 3...where even all 12 shall have failed acting indeed in concert each with the others.....the 13th man alone shall prevail...even if he is to be the only one left as the representative for his side on the field of battle...
     esotericx10 : Ondo the truly pathetic actually think that others will believe them
     brenton_spears : i am the 13th man
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:48:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : the man of destiny
     brenton_spears : ]the man marked out as the one on whom the turning of the tides of war in favor of the cause i embody...does depend...
     brenton_spears : i am the 13th warrior of myth...
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : definitely needs to get zombie on her buddy list.
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:49:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     banana_annie : belches in brenton's direction
     brenton_spears : ask the blood that i have put into the mouth of many a man who has dared to attempt tackling me on the field..
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : wafts annie's belch.
     brenton_spears : witness the blood i meant
     banana_annie : it's the Coke
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : brenton: you suck at dramatic pomposity.
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:50:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : ask the girl down whose face i have caused to stream the hot tears of shame..in punishment for having dared to cavil at my holy cause which is God's..
     brenton_spears : yea..i am God's ma
     brenton_spears : christ's child...
     banana_annie : brenton.....you need 24-hour supervision
     brenton_spears : defender of the holy faith......slave of christ
     brenton_spears : defender of the church.....
     frozenshade2001 : brenton like i said before SHUT UP...and stop trying to be poetic...your insulting me
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:51:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : Brenton thinks he's really a deity's messenger, doesn't he? THIS IS WHY WE NEED TO STOP CHILDREN FROM BEING EXPOSED TO HARMFUL DEITAL SUBSTANCES!
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : EVEN SECONDHAND DEITIES ARE DANGEROUS!
     banana_annie : let's see......there's wildbill, brenton, thechad.......nice line-up tonight
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : twitches.
     brenton_spears : christian warior par extraordinaire.......
     matt_2_14 : hunter :)) :)) =D> =D> =D>
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : I gotta lay off the crack....
     jotunrunner : bans preaching in public restraunts
     the_anarcho_capitalist : hey, isnt that the dude that said a naked Jesus is hotter than a naked woman?
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:52:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : bans preaching in all government buildings.
     brenton_spears : and here be the names of my masters which are apt to strike terror in the hearts of mine enemies...
     frozenshade2001 : brenton...you wouldnt even know a true "worrior" your a pusssy ass whiny a lil bitch
     brenton_spears : st thomas aquinas
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : bans religious materials there too.
     thechad90000 : The rest will be here during the reign of the anti-christ. If you take the mark of the beast then you will go to hell. You can still repent before you take the mark. Don't take it.
     misogynist23 : half naked christ on the cross pictures are pretty hot
     brenton_spears : augustine...
     banana_annie : I have a tape of the 13th warrior.....you ain't no antonio banderas
     matt_2_14 : warrior too
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : Anarcho: Yes. Yes it is.
     brenton_spears : jerome ..et al.....
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : mocks brenton.
     brenton_spears : heyyyy im vetter looking than antonio...
     frozenshade2001 : nive latin brenton
     banana_annie : not possible, brenton
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:53:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : he look slike a squat dwarf a weener..a wimp..a dandy.....
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : brenton: no. You're not.
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : And brenton shows that he's even moreugly than we thought possible.
     brenton_spears : im different man....im taller than antonio....and i dare say better loooking he looks like some oily spanish lothario which only a pig in heat would find attractive
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:54:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     banana_annie : brenton......you aren't sounding very christian this evening
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:55:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : my appeal is greater than his...for sure.,....i guess that amongst hollywood stars....the only 2 people who could be compared to me..are tom cruise or brad pittt...
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : Annie: he never sounds christian.
     brenton_spears : brad pitt might be prettier than me...but even then only slightly and in a way that suggests he is a himbo....
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : Wow. Brenton's fucking ugly, if he holds himself up to tom cruise and brad pitt....
     esotericx10 : banana_annie How true....he's spunding like a "my shit don't stink" elitist.....VERY unchristian I'd say
     banana_annie : is there no limit to your self-deceptiveness, brenton
     esotericx10 : *sounding
     frozenshade2001 : prde is one the the dealy sins last time i knew brenton
     brenton_spears : but im pretty much on an even keel with cruise as far as looks are concerned......
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:56:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     banana_annie : tom cruise looks weak to me
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : Brenton doesn't think he's capable of sinning
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : annie: how tall is Cruise?
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:57:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : that' s why so many girls have described me as cute behind my back....not that i pay them attention any longer of course..
     banana_annie : 5'7"
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : annie: wow He's almost as short as me.
     brenton_spears : cos right now my attention is rapt by holy men....
     lightpiercingthedark : not believing ...will not keep you from it either.
     banana_annie : behind your back? then how do you know about it
     brenton_spears : christian thinkers
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : annie: He's claiming to be equal to Cruise, but taller than Banderas? Banderas is taller than Cruise.
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:58:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     banana_annie : brenton.....do you wax?
     brenton_spears : im not like into eminem or slipknot or that sort of stuff which if a guy were into would explain his disdaining chicks....in a fashion similar to the way in which i for my part should be wont to disdain chicks..
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : jotunrunner: Gremlin refuses to spell according to Websters.
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:59:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : my disdain for chicks..comes from holy writings..and my fixing my attention on holy men a..and learned theologians...
     zsa_zsa_galore2002 : I have to iggy brenton for my own sanity.
     banana_annie : guess what, brenton......most chicks in here disdain YOU.....:)
     brenton_spears : so like im into ...pope john paul the second....alvin platinga michael behe...all the heroes of the christian faith in modern times..
     brenton_spears : c s lewis tolkien...
     brenton_spears : all these guys....
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:00:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : and from history ..thomas aquinas augustine....masters like them....
     brenton_spears : so i dont care for chicks' company....not cos of slipknot...but like cos im into christ...
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:01:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : i mean look at a crucifix//man that blows my mind....
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:02:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : to think that christ suffered so much for me....that he being god could yet have allowed himself to be bruised for a worm like me....that blows my mind...
     brenton_spears : yeah definitely...thomas aquinas is one of the greatest of christian thinkers of all time...
     brenton_spears : he is such a scary guy...
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:03:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:04:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : girls at my class are scared of him..the anne rice-types////i mean..and top-rate philosophers of religion such as william lane craig and alvin platinga...delve into his writings for ideas as how to accomodate science to the demands of the faith
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:05:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : and platinga whom i otherwise respect.....as brilliant...has been shown not necessarily to be correct in the criticisms that he has ventured against some of aquinas' theses....
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:06:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : so i am in awe of st thomas....
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:07:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : plus st thomas was a saint as well as a genius.././...meaning that he didnt say that the christian position on marriage is that sex is necessarily evil outside marriage but necessarily good within it......he said that sex is necessarily outside marriage but isnt necessarily evil within it...
     brenton_spears : read the summa...
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:08:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : plus st thomas was a saint as well as a genius.././...meaning that he didnt say that the christian position on marriage is that sex is necessarily evil outside marriage but necessarily good within it......he said that sex is necessarily evil outside marriage but isnt necessarily evil within it...
     brenton_spears : meaning that even though sex is necessarily even outside mariage....within marriage it might still be evil...
     brenton_spears : so like if a wifey wears sexy numbers for her hubbie...that might make jesus angry...
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:09:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : so if you go and buy victoria;s secrets or lingerie....to turn on hubby..even though you and he were legitimately married..it could still be a sin...
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:10:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     banana_annie : I think brenton's mom caught him playing with himself when he was a teenager and whacked it with a ruler or something and this has caused him major mental problems ever since
     brenton_spears : in order for sex within even marriage to be holy..aquinas teaches that it has to be relatred to the goods of marriage/...
     brenton_spears : that is why i love aquinas...
     brenton_spears : otherwise having sex with even a wifey is sinful...
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:11:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : and definitely all contraception is sinful...
     banana_annie : how about blow jobs, brenton?
     brenton_spears : condoms iuds....all that kind of thing is bad news...ok..
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:12:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : contraception via abstinence is 100 per cent acceptable within marriage though..via nfp...it may not be...if it is the case that you are seeking thereby never to have kids..but still to be having sex...
     brenton_spears : and no blow jobs are totally disorderd...
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:13:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     banana_annie : no blow jobs, or no, blow jobs are?
     brenton_spears : no way..can you do that..whether you are married not married...whether you are doing that on your husband and you are female..all of that is wrong..
     banana_annie : why, brenton?
     frozenshade2001 : (( opens an eye at brenton the shruggs and closeses it again ))
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:14:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     banana_annie : brenton......have you had sex yet?
     brenton_spears : it is never correct ..and room dont be scared of finngoth and hungter...they may seem learned.....but aquinas crushes them both
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : annie: with his MOM!
     brenton_spears : and dont be scared of rousseau and locke..they are bad guys...
     brenton_spears : smarties maybe..
     nihil_initio : Rousseau was a great painter
     brenton_spears : but they are still baddies..
     banana_annie : notices how brenton skirts sex issues
     brenton_spears : they have been condemned by the church..their teachings
     brenton_spears : dont be impressed by them/.
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:15:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : loooooooook i am not skirting anything okkkkkkkkk...youre the one who wears the dumb skirt..which is above your kneecaps....got that....i mean wake up..here..that is sooooo ...wrong....
     brenton_spears : i mom wears ankle-length skirts..
     banana_annie : I only wear pants, brenton
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : laughs.
     brenton_spears : she never ever ever shows her legs
     brenton_spears : my mom is a decent christian woman..
     brenton_spears : you are the bad girl...ok...
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:16:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : bets brenton is upset about the 'skirt' thing because he feels like he's been caught, for trying on mommy'sskirt that one time.
     finngoth : brenton: Aquinas was obsessed with being misogynistic and mortifying his flesh to reach holy visions. Not everyone can do that, all the time, or society would collapse.
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : Oh, but brenton doesn't remind ANYONE of Ed Gein....
     ricus71 : brenton what are ya trying to say, cause i dont understand ya
     banana_annie : brenton thinks women are badddddd
     banana_annie : cept for his christian mother
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:17:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : and that is my pet peeve....how can girls wearing skirts whose hemlines extend above their calves...not only that above their knees come to church.....
     banana_annie : who wears ankle length skirts
     brenton_spears : i dont like that
     brenton_spears : st thomas wouldnt either....ok...
     brenton_spears : i dont like that at all.
     brenton_spears : that is bad
     brenton_spears : it is evil
     lightpiercingthedark : ill take that as a no.
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : brenton: I wear thongs.
     brenton_spears : jesus is angry
     banana_annie : makes your crotch twitch, eh, brenton?
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : brenton: I walk around NAKED.
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : I *dare* to walk around NAKED in front of a MAN!
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:18:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     ricus71 : brenton why are you exposing your personal problems to a chat room????
     brenton_spears : hunter you are so morally abandoned iam left speechless..think about this...wouldnt aquinas be mad at you....for that.../.
     brenton_spears : i dont want girls who wear skirts like that to come to church...they are b;laspheming christ...
     brenton_spears : they are mocking his blood...
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : brenton: am I supposed to fucking /care/ what a fucking /dead guy/ would /think/?
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:19:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : Brenton: I walk around naked in front of Gremlin. I live with him. We're not married. I fuck for pleasure.
     nihil_initio : hunter amen
     brenton_spears : plus some of them use makeup..and they wear blouses through which their bras are maginally visible...
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : breaks brenton.
     ricus71 : brenton you are obviously obbsessed with girls and their skirts
     brenton_spears : wouldnt st thomas oppose this..
     banana_annie : I see you do some serious scoping, brenton
     finngoth : Brenton: News flash. Everyone is naked under their clothes. Not everyone feels the need to sew themselves into woolen underwear for the year, as Aquinas did. Otherwise, we'd only bathe once a year, smell like rotting horseflesh, and be infested with lice and fleas. Like Aquinas.
     nihil_initio : whoo hoo Hunter!!
     Fastillion : You see, Jesus himself would befriend a prostitute but they don't want any short skirts in church.
     nihil_initio : Grem you lucky dog
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:20:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     frozenshade2001 : brenton go get laid or somethin man.....
     finngoth : brenton_spears: News Flash: There's this thing called "Cotton". It's used for underclothes now. Investigate it.
     banana_annie : maybe a girl in a skirt made fun of brenton's thingie
     brenton_spears : no ricus i am jealous for christ's prerogatives...and one of these is that his holy sanctuaries should not be the place for underdressed women to exhibit their bodies iin the name of satan.....
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : finn: cotton is lovely.
     damien_the_blasphemous : Oh boy, I came in at a good time.
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:21:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : contemplates posing naked on a cross.
     nihil_initio : laughs at brenton wholeheartedly
     brenton_spears : the blood is honored is therein.....
     damien_the_blasphemous : gives hunter his full support.
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : Damien: Thanks for the unofficial quotes post.
     brenton_spears : women's bodies are unclean.......they may look good..but inside they are filled with corruption....that is their curse...
     banana_annie : brenton......what about where paul says to treat your wife as you would your church?
     brenton_spears : that is why there are gynaecologists......
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:22:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     ricus71 : no you think way to much about what girls do or dont wear, it sounds like its eating your brain away
     finngoth : brenton_spears: So, you're honoring Aquinas? Instead of God? Wasn't there something about "Thou shalt not have false gods before me?" what about "No idols"?
     banana_annie : men have the original sin in their semen, brenton......isnt that augustine?
     damien_the_blasphemous : Brenton, ask any surgeon, a woman's body is about as clean as a man's.
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : Women are filled with corruption, that's why there are gynocologists?
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : gasps at zed.
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:23:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     ricus71 : breton im sure jack the ripper may have had similar beliefs to what your trying to spread
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : ricus71: Ed Gein.
     damien_the_blasphemous : waits for a, hmm, thirty seconds, 3 line post from brenton, at least.
     banana_annie : never realized the depth of brenton's misogynism till this evening
     brenton_spears : i am honouring aquinas..but that is because he is a servant of jesus...my true lord is christ alone....and in biology class i was shown a cross-section of a uterus..and i thought it wasnt a pretty sight....anyway that may just be me.....
     damien_the_blasphemous : Yes!
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : brenton_spears: you've obviously never seen the cross section of the penis....
     damien_the_blasphemous : Brenton, what about the liver?
     brenton_spears : but women must be certainly regulated..otherwise there will be trouble...
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:24:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : The liver is /lovely/.
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : So are the kidneys.
     damien_the_blasphemous : Or how about the kidneys? they show a similiar contour.
     banana_annie : the heart is pretty gross-looking, too
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : Annie: the heart is my favourite. Places to stick the fingers. You can make little puppets.
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : And the intestines...make good jewelry....
     damien_the_blasphemous : The brain is rather hideous looking, looks like a giant raisin from hell.
     nihil_initio : or any cross section of ANY body...ew
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:25:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : loves internal anatomy. It's fun to splash in.
     finngoth : brenton_spears: So, what you're saying is that you're placing Aquinas' views on women before Christ's, even though you claim to serve truly only Christ? You need to re-read the New Testament, and check to see if there's anything in there about Christ saying "women are unclean" and "Women are filled with corruption". Your views are all pulled from the Creation story.
     gumptiondude : damien i dont know about you but my brain is certainyl bigger then a rasin
     gumptiondude : oh duh he said "giant raisin"
     gumptiondude : my bad
     brenton_spears : look anyway i dont like biology..i understand somebody has to study. it..but not me....my stock-in-trade are pure abstractions....because i dont want to to be sullied even in thought by the profaneness of the fallen world in which i live....considered under the aspect of its concrete reality..
     damien_the_blasphemous : Gumption, notice I said GIANT raisin. No problem.
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:26:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     banana_annie : brenton wants to only concentrate on self-worship
     finngoth : brenton_spears: If you deny the physical world, then you deny that which God created, according to your bible.
     nihil_initio : rolls eyes at brenton
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : Brenton doesn't want to deal with reality. Stated right there.
     banana_annie : so brenton can't handle looking at god's creations
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:27:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : no no im not manichaean or gnostic..i acknowledge creation has good...but yet in its preesent condition it is marred by sin....that is why there is entropy.....along with the classical christian theologians i look for the life of the world to come...
     brenton_spears : creation is good...not has..
     brenton_spears : that is why i stand with aquinas...
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:28:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     banana_annie : so brenton......are women put in a separate part of heaven.......i hope so or it will be hell for you.......:))
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : damien_the_blasphemous: Oh. I don't know how hard it would've been for me. I adore cats, but I'm a very sick person.
     brenton_spears : i believe what he taught about chicks...
     ricus71 : you only belive him because you are inherantly sexist, so you had a natural empathy with what he said brenton
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:29:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     finngoth : brenton_spears: Look, it's pretty simple. Aquinas was a monk. HE had his views because he FELT that involving himself with women would keep him from God. YET, God gave Adam Eve, to be his companion, and felt no need to separate them when kicking them out of the Garden of Eden, nor to keep Adam behind for being "fooled by Eve". In God's eyes, man is just as "bad" as woman. Otherwise, they'd not have both been thrown out.
     brenton_spears : no in heaven we willl all be together but none of us will there be subject to the sway of concupiscence as we now are...because by then our natures will have been perfected..
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:30:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:31:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     finngoth : brenton_spears: Look, man. Your God made Eve to be Adam's wife and companion. He didn't make her to be Adam's property. He didn't conbdemn all her female children into slavery. BEyond that, Women do not need to be "regulated", just because you are tempted and "under their sway".
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:32:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:33:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     finngoth : brenton_spears: If you have to resort to force, to controlling women just so you can feel secure in your path to God, you are fundamentally wrongdoing. It's YOUR temptation. It's YOUR hormones. it's YOUR weakness. YOU need to do something about YOUR fault, not condemn others because they trigger it.
     brenton_spears : i agree that man is as defective as woman in their respective present states..but mot in the exact same way...you have conflated the degree to which it might quantifiably be assessed that a thing is defective and the particular manner in which it might thus be said to be defective..you labour under the misconception that no distinction is to be drawn between different kinds of defect...that whatever distinction which we might feel ourselves compelled to make between one defect and another is artificial...that concrete reality affords these distinctions no place for subsistence...but that is the philosophy of nominalism which i reject..along with aquinas
     brenton_spears : that is my answer to finn..
     brenton_spears : HOORAY I HAVE DEFEATED HIM...
     brenton_spears : HOOORAY
     damien_the_blasphemous : Okay, that's a brenton quote worth saving.
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:34:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : brenton_spears: you're claiming victory again?
     damien_the_blasphemous : Brenton, once again, this little conversation will be appearing on gremlin.net.
     brenton_spears : I HAVE demonstrated that the thomistic position on chickies is coherent
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : damien_the_blasphemous: I have all of it, marked from his entrance to the room.
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : 'chickies'?
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:35:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     damien_the_blasphemous : Hunter, I'm going to make a brenton quote archive.
     brenton_spears : hooray i have confuted finn's allegations HOORAY I HAVE WON....THE chickies will never deceive me.......nevrrrrrrrrr
     finngoth : Brenton: You have this power trip going. Once again, It's YOUR defect that is coming in to play here with the "temptation" thing. You need to learn to keep your beliefs off other people's bodies. Wasn't there something about learning to cast the beam from your own eye before casting the mote from mine?
     banana_annie : you're a pig, brenton
     damien_the_blasphemous : Isn't it strange how brenton says that every time he loses?
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : Damien: yeah.
     brenton_spears : and finnnnn is such a smart dude...posing and preening i admit he is really so..i wont begrudge him that....he reads all sorts of esoteric books..he is learned...by even he cannot defend the chickies..
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : brenton_spears will never reproduce, thankfully.
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:36:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : noooo never chickies are chickies that's it period
     brenton_spears : case closed.,..
     brenton_spears : i rule i win u lose...
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : brenton_spears: we don't care about your sexual fantasies regarding baby chickens.
     brenton_spears : chicks must be subject to the law of holy men...
     banana_annie : so he needs to 'defend the chickies,' eh brenton.....guess that means you are 'attacking' them........
     damien_the_blasphemous : Hunter, I don't know, someday he might run into some incredibly confused minister's daughter and something ...regretable, might happen.
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : brenton_spears: I fucking dare you to subject me.
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : damien: you mean like he'll rape her?
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:37:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     damien_the_blasphemous : Brenton, um, what exactly do you have against immature agriculture fowl?
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : damien: never happen. He'll go mad over his inability to reconcile his homosexuality with his oedipal draws....
     finngoth : "Chickies?"
     banana_annie : brenton is just indulging in wishful thinking because in reality he is a chickie repulser
     damien_the_blasphemous : Hunter, no, I consider ANYTHING involving brenton and reproduction to be regrettable.
     brenton_spears : and guess what..it was fin himself who elicited that masterful comment from me by his repeated attempts at baiting me...but i dont bear him any personal malice..i just want to teach him a lesson so that he knows better never again to call into question my holy pronouncements on chickies....
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : nods at damien.
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:38:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : noo finnnnnnn i wont let u pull the wool over my eyes..
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : brenton_spears: admit that you're gay. Come out of the closet.
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:39:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     damien_the_blasphemous : Brenton, your life will be much less stressful and painful if you just come out.
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:40:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : i have seen chickiues...i have watched them in skirts...in a class i took...this giurl who was seated in front of me..and wearing jeans...had her blouse riding up her back exposing the flesh above the waistband of her jeans..and stretched across this exposed patch of flesh..were the portions of linen which i took to comrpise that garement known as in modern parlance as a 'thong'....
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : brenton_spears: it's okay that you weren't turned on by it. It's OK to b GAY.
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:41:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : that is when i realised the supreme relevance of st thomas...such girls have to be controlled...they haveeeeeee tooooooooo...never i cannt accept finngoth....
     brenton_spears : noooooo aquinas is the one....
     brenton_spears : he isss
     banana_annie : brenton is into bondage
     finngoth : brenton_spears: Uh, I guess I don't have to try, 'cause it's ALREADY THERE! Look. In this time, we have this notion. It's called rights. We also have this notion, it's called "personal responsibility". You get to exercise your rights, up to the point that they conflict with another person's rights. Now, you want to hold women as property? They're human. Humans aren't property.
     finngoth : It's YOUR mind, it's YOUR hormones. It's YOUR inability to deal with their existence and YOUR overwhelming wish to be rid of them. There's plenty of people who have been "holy", been close to God, while dealing with Women.
     damien_the_blasphemous : You know, I have some girlfriends I'd love to introduce Brenton to, they'd whip him into shape in no time.
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : Damien: They Doms?
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:42:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     damien_the_blasphemous : Hunter, I wish they were, but no, they're just very assertive.
     turn_to_sophism : Brenton- why do such girls "have to be controlled"? I can control myself just fine, thank you. What's wrong with you?
     brenton_spears : that is why finngoth the church says.......ITE AD THOMAM
     brenton_spears : GO to thomas
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : Damien: i'd like to kick his little pansy ass, myself.
     brenton_spears : and that i have done....
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:43:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : and all thee thong-wearing skirt-wearing chicks..this brigade of harlots...of succubi.....they cannot be defended as finn as tried to doo..
     finngoth : brenton_spears: You're OBSESSED with women. It's YOUR obsession. Women aren't parading themselves in front of you to screw with your path to God. If YOU feel the need to get them off your mind, to remove them from your existence, it's YOUR personal responsibility to remove YOURSELF from THEIR existence. They aren't your property, only YOU are under your control. You need to solve the problem in your own mind, or remove yourself from society.
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:44:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : Brenton: we don't have to be defended. WE are CAPABLE of DEFENDING OURSELVES.
     damien_the_blasphemous : Brenton, they don't need to be defended.
     esotericx10 : ondoher1 It is the mature thing to do
     zsa_zsa_galore2002 : wonders if brenton is sporting a woody talking about this stuff.
     damien_the_blasphemous : zsa, he's probably wanking away right now.
     ricus71 : brenton go to adult chat, there are probably lots of female domination rooms, and yo may just meet someone
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:45:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : finn..thou art so near the truth of christ..and yet so far...i would that you should learn to submit to st thomas...you are a man of immense learning of such luminous intelligence that i would like to induct you into the ranks of my crew to learn from you..yea to dine with you.....to break bread with you...but first o finn..you must learn from the holy masters...then and only then will we be part of the same fraternity
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:46:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     finngoth : I am not trying to defend "chickies"... Okay, I am, but more importantly, I am defending personal freedoms. Brenton, you have ZERO right to enfoce your beliefs on other people. ZERO. God does not give you the right to treat others as personal property, the LAw does not give you the right, NOTHING gives you the right to treat others, whatever group distinction, as subjugate.
     brenton_spears : finn...i have respect for immensely..it is clear from your previous posts that you are no poseur...you are really learned..you read all sorts of books..but your will has yet to be brought into line....o finn..
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:47:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : kudos to you though..my worthiest opponent yet....not gremlin who was a distinct no-show......
     brenton_spears : but u finn...
     brenton_spears : my hope is that you stand alongside me..defending the christ....
     finngoth : Nihil has it right! brenton_spears, you need to remove yourself from society, and join a monastery. You can revile your own mind and flesh there for the rest of your life. You might even find your own path to God. And you'll be free from women.
     brenton_spears : u have so much to contribute finn....why dont u convert,.,,,,think about it..
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:48:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     nihil_initio : finn, you said it exactly
     brenton_spears : u and me as allies...
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:49:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : our exchange today has been intense and candid but yet not without ourselves feeling a measure of broherly affection each for the other...i bear goodwill towards you,....
     banana_annie : finn.....brenton has the hots for you........:>
     finngoth : brenton_spears: Uh, No. As the saying goes, "No compromise, no surrender". You might see me as a champion, and indeed I see myself as a champion. It's not for your apocryphal religion, nor for the particularly strange and lewd views you have.
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:50:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : i treasure this exchange....you brought out what is best in me today...your candour is commendable....my friend..ite ad thomam i bid theee
     zsa_zsa_galore2002 : If brenton talks like this in real life, it's no wonder the girls shy away from him. :))
     ricus71 : brenton you try and use long words to sound clever but you dont know how to use the constructivly
     brenton_spears : learn from thomas ..you are a worthy champion....a man of mettle..i was pleased to have clashed with you....my own blood on my face tastes the sweeter to me in that you shoulkd have served to draw it and not some other
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:51:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : i enjoy the taste of my own blood that you have out on my face...
     banana_annie : brenton has read too much Ann Rice
     ricus71 : brent forget about women and get a childs grammar book and STUDY!!!!
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:52:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     finngoth : brenton_spears: Really. I'm not kidding. It's not your place to tell others what to do. You have posession of only your mind and body, and only your mind fully. You cannot control others, only yourself. This is, I beleive, one of the tenets of monastic life.
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : Brenton wants to be dominated by a man dressed as a woman.
     zsa_zsa_galore2002 : brenton having possession of his mind is debatable.
     banana_annie : wonders if brenton has a secret panty collection
     brenton_spears : i enjoy the taste of my own blood that you have put on my face...but i would enjoy even more the brush of your shoulder against mine..when and if we should stand alongside each other as allies in the service of the cause of the nazarene master...
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:53:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     finngoth : brenton_spears: I'm not out for your blood. I've talked to you before. I've had some of the same aims you espouse. I'm telling you: Self-control is what you need, not control over others. Once you control yourself, you've done all you can do.
     ricus71 : brenton i bet you are used to tasting your own blood on your face eh
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:54:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     damien_the_blasphemous : See, the only know photograph of Brenton Spears! http://www.goatse.cx/
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : Damien: wow. He IS good looking, isn't he.
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : A real 'ladies' man.
     damien_the_blasphemous : Hunter, I can't tell, is that the good side of his face or the bad side?
     banana_annie : knew it....brenton is into D/s stuff
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : damien: must be the bad side.
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:55:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     damien_the_blasphemous : Hunter, yeah, if it's the good side, I wouldn't want to see the bad side.
     brenton_spears : i commend finn to this rooomm..no i wont look at your pic......i can well believe that you are pretty averagely so at least...but i have no specific reason to look at it.........anyway back to fin....you are a worthy opponent....your remarks to hunter wherein you make passing mention of the tomes you have read indicate as much....
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:56:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : i know u arent out for my blood....therein does lie the beauty of thee///yet you have served to draw it...to elicit from me the very best of which i should be capable of giving...
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : is one of those females who Brenton cannot aspire to have. Y'know, the ones with two X chromosomes.
     ondoher1 : hunteR: hehe
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:57:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     nihil_initio : hunter. haha
     banana_annie : maybe if you brushed shoulders with him and threw blood on his face, hunter
     brenton_spears : finnn is amazing..he would make a powerful ally...a powerful....pone.....so far he is the most incredible opponent i have yet to face here.....notwithstanding gremlin indin and alcy.....
     damien_the_blasphemous : Hunter, brenton sets low standards for himself and consistantly fails to meet them.
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : nods.
     brenton_spears : i must try to make a convert of finn..
     brenton_spears : it doesnt surprise me to learn that he was once as i now am....
     banana_annie : lol a convert of finn
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:58:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     finngoth : brenton_spears: I read a lot, all the time. I read things no matter who wrote it and what it's about (Okay, I no longer read Crowley if I can help it.. retch). I don't limit myself to blindly following any one person's views. And I have the humility to reserve a small portion to "There might be something more correct out there"... You should try it!
     brenton_spears : i can feel his pain...he might have had his heart broken by a christian girl...that is why he has compared his experience as a christian to mine.....
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:59:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     finngoth : brenton_spears: Go on. Say it. "Pick up your weapon. Strike me down. I will become more powerful than you can ever imagine. Join me, and we can rule the galaxy together".
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:00:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     damien_the_blasphemous : Finn, when last we met I was your student, but now, I AM the master!
     damien_the_blasphemous : You cannot escape your destiny, Finn.
     brenton_spears : yes i know u read avidly i widely..your responses to me indicate as much.....otherwise you wouldnt have pushed me so hard...that i delivered in response what i now deem in retrospect to have been a devastating riposte.....yyou challenged me to dig deep to mount a defence for my claims...
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:01:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : that is why i am grateful to you...
     necroticfreak : why the fuck would i beleive in jesus?????
     littledudeforchrist : the sun would affect that
     finngoth : brenton_spears: I've had my heart broken by an atheist girl, a pagan girl, a korean girl, a black girl, a pagan girl, a christian girl and a smart girl. I harbor no prejudices against any of their "groups", though, nor towards women in general.
     brenton_spears : this exchange between us is redolent of my experiences in the locker-room following upon the conclusion of a match in which our team had particpated...
     finngoth : black: Yeah, two.
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:02:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : yeah i knocked down a couple of guys ..i myself got knocked down..but we were all brothers in that locker-room.....
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : Wow. Someone pissed ondo off.
     blackheartedprofit : you mean ass bunted, don't you brenton?
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : black: hence the brotherhood.
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:03:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : i bear the fondest sentiment towards my erstwhile teamomates....it is just that now what stands between us is women..because now i have christ...
     brenton_spears : sentiments plural..sorry
     finngoth : brenton_spears: I commend you for the feeling that you ought to be grateful to one's opponent for being a teacher. However, you ought to at least respect your opponent enough to realise there might be something to his approach.
     brenton_spears : previously...after bruising each other...we would talk about chicks in such a manner as to incite one another's lust..
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:04:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     ginxyz2000 : Why is Brenton trying to talk like he's the after dinner speaker in an upscale British men's club?
     brenton_spears : as in...karen is hoyt,,,check out her booty..check ou her tits that kind of thing..yeah i want her bad.......that sorta thing
     banana_annie : brenton says women are evil
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : ondo: "after bruisng eachother we would alk about chicks in such a manner as to incite one another's lust"
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : twitches.
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:05:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     blackheartedprofit : why not ? brenton, if they show why not look?
     ginxyz2000 : Women are evil? I assume he means this literally and that women are inherently evil.
     ondoher1 : hunter: and then they'd have a nice manly orgy?
     banana_annie : brenton is easily impressed by other men........you draw your ownconclusions
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : nods at ondo.
     ginxyz2000 : That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.
     brenton_spears : now though i meditate on christ and study the writings of the angelic doctor.....finn...i accept that there might be 'something ' to your views..that is why i said that you are near to christ
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:06:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     banana_annie : brenton is also the 13th warrior.....alongside other great christians......standing firm for christ
     ricus71 : brenton tries to use big words but he uses them in an illiterate way
     ginxyz2000 : If women are inherently evil, then men must inherently be thugs.
     finngoth : brenton_spears: Look. It's a psychological thing. When you have strong feelings regarding something, whether those feelings are positive or negative, that something has a hold on you. Only by quelling your feelings on the subject altogether, can you allow it to let go of you, to stop being part of your life.
     nihil_initio : Brenton is a woman hater, but that doesn't mean he's a homosexual. So whats the point of vilifying his sexuality and insulting Homosexuals everywhere in the process?
     finngoth : You've done the same mistake everyone else makes. You felt something had power over you, you tried to push it away, and instead overcorrected and are now keeping it locked at a distance because you imagine it is trying to get to you.
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:07:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     specter_23 : :)
     banana_annie : well, nihil.....it's not only how he disses women, it's how he talks about how he feels about men
     brenton_spears : i got to hand it to you..finn....you definitely are the man.,....truly....over the course of my subsequent visits you and i will be engaging in further discussions i assure u...
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:08:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : i want you for my cause......
     brenton_spears : i really do...
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : finn: he wants you.
     nihil_initio : banana, well and good, but insulting his sexuality is pointless. And it implies that being a homosexual is bad.
     finngoth : brenton_spears: Only by quelling all your feelings and thoughts on the subject, can you hope to remove its' influence on your life. Your solution is simple. To stop being obsessed by women, you must both stop lusting after them, and stop hating them. Remove your mind from the subject. Stop reading aquinas. Go to a monastery. Grow plants.
     banana_annie : I guess one could imply that.....I think that denying your true nature and dissing a whole half of the human LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:09:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : you are the kind of man...i need to stand with me..you would make an amazing addition to my crew..if we joined forced we could bring this room to its knees
     brenton_spears : joined forces
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:10:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : someone said that i read anne rice...
     finngoth : brenton_spears: Ah, you evidence yet again a need for power. "Bring this room to it's knees". "Join my cause". There is no cause. People deserve to live on their feet. The good man does not make people kneel. He helps them to stand.
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:11:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : ..finngoth..i wish you could come to my church....we will shower u with such love.......you will see that as christians our most defining characteristic is the love that we bear towards each other
     evangelical_agnostic : I assume that all this flood proponents have never seen an actual flood? sheesh
     dymenshan : who said a flood did it in 90 days? what if it indeed too millions of years... and God created the world in the brenton_spears : and dont worry i will forbid the giurls to speak to you..
     brenton_spears : on my orders they will not dare to approach you..
     blackheartedprofit : brenton_spears, are there any hot chicks that swallow there?
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:12:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     banana_annie : brenton protecting finn from the evil females
     brenton_spears : you will have to do with me..my pastor and some other male buddies of mine...
     ginxyz2000 : Hot chicks that swallow wouldn't obey Brenton's orders in any case
     blackheartedprofit : does brento go to one of those new age fag churches?
     finngoth : brenton_spears: Uh, no. I have Zero problem with women. There's this tale I want to tell you, brenton.
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:13:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     tony_met2002 : That tells you all about Brenton_spears,if women are evil,then he's masturbating a hell of a lot....:))
     banana_annie : finn....he isn't really listening to what you are saying
     finngoth : brenton_spears: There were two monks, walking down a country road one night. They came upon a pretty girl, who had some difficulty crossing a muddy patch without sullying her dress. So the older monk agreed to take her on his back, and carry her across the mud.
     brenton_spears : u will be shielded from contact with the 'slaves'......dont worry i wont let any smarty-pants chick try to you know i dunnpo talk to you or something ....i personally would pour you a cup of coffee after the service and bring it to you...i will bring to the a tray of refreshments...
     roncram_2000 : lying for jesus... I would never do that
     the_anarcho_capitalist : im trying to think of a gay rights organization that fits the acronym "PENIS-HUNGRY"
     brenton_spears : ok i am listening to the tale..
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:14:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     banana_annie : that's it.....brenton wants a male Dom he can be a subbie for
     finngoth : brenton_spears: A few miles down the road, the young monk turns to the old monk and says : We are forbidden contact with women! Why did you carry her across the puddle?" and the old monk tells the young monk "I left her back at the puddle; Why have you not?"
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:15:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : finngoth dont worry buddy if you ever came to my church i wouldnt let the females harass you..ok..dont worry...yeah but by females i dont mean accomplished and holy devout women...like my mom or the pastor's wife..mrs packer..ok..theyre all old...their hairs are greying...the holy old types can approach dont worry
     roncram_2000 : ondoher... you are making claims but not dealing with the issues..
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:16:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : i meant chicks our age..ok..anyway im still listening dude..
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:17:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : in fact if i took you to my church u would definitely have to talk to mom..cos she comes with me..
     brenton_spears : but dont worry finn..we wouldnt have to sit with her during the service..you could like chill with me and the rest of the crew in any pew of your own choosing...ok??/
     blackheartedprofit : i bet brenton sleeps with his mom
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:18:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     banana_annie : finn.....you've definitely struck a chord in brenton here
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : finn: he's trying to get you to go to his church? Where? In the fantasyland of Cambridge/BeverlyHills?
     finngoth : brenton_spears: Did you read the story about the two monks and the pretty girl?
     brenton_spears : we could be chilling out together and be seen doing so......by everybody say the in pew closest to the front of the sanctuary......
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:19:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : check out the heads i turn when i sawgger in with my crew.........im also my pastor's pet...ok....everybody knows that
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:20:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : im the man to beat of my own age-group....finn...wed like to have you on the team....
     brenton_spears : we could use your learning..i cant be the one carrying the day all the time..id like to specialise in certain branches of christian studies..leaving other competent persons to specialise in the other branches..that way in warfare we could complement each other
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:21:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:22:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : anyway guys to see a really amazing exchange between finn and myself...scroll down and read.......he almost battled me to a standstill...drew my blood but thelast salvo i fired clinched me the victory....stil li have come away with a tremendous amount of respect for the man...
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:23:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     finngoth : Brenton: Here, let me make this simple for you. It's not a case of money. It's not a case of glory. It's not a case of who's coolest, or the "IN" crowd. I do not care one single whit for the things you are offering me. I care about human freedom, and I will not trade my "walk on part in the war for a leading role in a cage".
     evangelical_agnostic : Well, what I am getting to Little Dude is that if it can not be changed as new info shows up, then your "theory" about the formation of the earth can not be science.
     brenton_spears : that is the stuff of which a real debate should ideally be made......not the so-called 'debates'..that are now taking place...
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:24:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     ginxyz2000 : Brenton? Best Finn? That's like me saying Selma Hayek dreams of me nightly.
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : "Stuff of which a real debate should ideally be made" = "brenton prattling on, and not paying attention with finn"
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : *to fin.
     finngoth : Hunter: I like the "with" bit a lot better.
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:25:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : why not be in a cage for christ's sake...true freedom is to be had in being enslaved to christ....his yoke is easy and his burden light....finnn man...
     brenton_spears : turn o finn man.....leave them......be christian...
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : finn: either way, I guess it works....
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:26:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     finngoth : "His yoke is easy and his burden light". Why should I treat myself to lies and ignorance when others are not free?
     brenton_spears : be in the vanguard of the christian assault...use your awesome gifts why not...stand with me...and we can destroy this room.,...make it beg....make it be in terror of us...whenever we make our presence felt within its precincts...
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : brenton_spears: why not? Because he's far too intelligent to be fooled by your shit.
     brenton_spears : make your enemies fear you..take them head-on..stand o stand o stand with me o man.....
     zsa_zsa_galore2002 : Brenton :))
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:27:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     finngoth : Ah, at least he's not cliche when he says "Join me, and we can rule the galaxy together".
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:28:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:29:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : come on do it..take the plunge fin...thearms of christ are extended to you...LOOK AT JESUSS..SEE THE ARMS OUTSPREAD ...SEE TH EBLOOD BEHOLD YOUR GOD O FIN..EMBRACE THE LORD.....BE RAINED down upon by his blood...kneel before him and extend your tongue letting his blood drop down upon it...o his godflesh is meet indeed and his godblood is drink indeed see how much he loves. you...disdain the chicks o fin....they cannot compare.....their embrace cannot at best draw the blood of the sort of which christ's embrace should serve to introduce into yoyuyr mouth and veins...at best you only break their hymens and stain the sheets beneath...but so few girls are virgins today so that may never happen even
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:30:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : finn: he's trying to convert you against your will.
     ginxyz2000 : Finn, I think that's exactly it...anyone who would be intimidated by him, I assure, would most certainly be another Christian...and the air he projects to them is of one who is "in God". Hence, his arrogance and veneer of power.
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:31:50 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : even the carnal embrace of an aphrodite could at best but serve to draw the hymeneal blood of a goddess.....but christ..he is beyond compare...
     ricus71 : brenton you must be saying that stuff for comic effect, im iggying ya, not that you care
     brenton_spears : his very beard is matted with his sacred blood out of shheer love for you o fin..i care ricusssssss i care my friend....
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:32:51 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     zenpunk : men and women are not equal according to Paul (a man)
     brenton_spears : u too turn to the lord....turn o fin and ricus...
     Hunter_the_CrazyChick : points at brenton and laughs.
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:33:51 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : see how the scared head was bruised for thee...and yes men and women have different roles..just as they have different bodies...
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:34:51 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : but now i must needs remove myself from these precincts...my presence is required elsewhere.....in the meantime..christus regnant.....
     finngoth : brenton: You're really persistent. I have to give you that. But there's this nifty thing I was talking about earlier... The bit about removing something entirely from your life in order to remove it's power over you? WEll, it would seem you believe I am under your power. Guess what? It's my choice to continue to talk to you. And it's my choice to stop talking to you too. And now, I'm going to stop taling to you about "conversion". Prattle on all you wnat; I'm not talking about it anymore.
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:35:51 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:36:51 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : i respect that fin ...so that i too shall presently desist continuing to admonish you to convert..that marvellous exchange we had earlier still stands though...and the sentiments which it occasioned in me about you....i still do indeed cherish...
     LOG DATA Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:37:51 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     brenton_spears : i will return again.....to crush the enemies of christ.....
     

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