Posted by Damien [24.159.250.195 - 24-159-250-195.jvl.wi.charter.com] on 24 February 2003 at 19.48.15 ZuluTime:

In Reply to: prooving CHrist Deity posted by jay on 24 February 2003 at 06.35.39 ZuluTime:

>John1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word >was with God, and the Word was God. Jesus is the >Word of God.

Hmm, I count four unsupported arguments in the first two sentences alone.

> Look at the prophecies in Isaiha. He told exactly >where and from what family lines that the Messiah >would come.

Which prophecy would this be? Which chapter? Verse? Which version of the bible? How do you reconcile this with the several different family lines given in the gospels?

> It's the same as dialing a random number and >expecting to get your friend on the other line. It >takes more than that.

Wow, you contradict yourself in a single paragraph, so, which is it? Just the same? Or does it take more than that? You need to be clearer on your points.

> Just like Jesus. He came from each family and the >directness gets lesser and lesser untill we finally >get to Joseph and Mary and the town and the way He >was born.

Hmm, no quotes, no sources, hell, nothing that isn't clouded in vagueness. Tell me, have you ever considered a career in telemarketing?

>It doesn't get much clearer than that unless you >just refuse to believe.

Clearer than what? Several unsupported arguments? No sources whatsoever? Your post is about as clear as an oil slick, and also about as appealing.

>God Bless You.

Which god? There are literally thousands to choose from.

> Denver is a good place. My wife is from there. Her >parents live in Morrison.

How proud your parents must be, their own flesh and blood is busy making an idiot out of himself by posting nonsense on chat boards that are more than prepared to fully debunk him.

>Read the Bible a little at a time and think of it as >a real good history book

A) I have read the bible, it's insanely boring. B) How about if I think of it as what it really is, a collection of Hebrew tribal myths. C) A 'real good' history book has those three special things called 'evidence', 'sources', and 'accuracy' that your bible, and this post, lacks.

>based on facts that all scholars have prooven to be >true.

Which scholers? Where are you sources? Who has 'proven it to be true'?

> Live it

Okay, I'll live it... I'll kill others to show how powerful I am (EX 7:1, 14, 9:14-16, 10:1-2, 11:7), I'll beat my slaves, then let them die slowly, and suffer no punishment for it (EX 21:20-21), I'll cannibalize my family and friends (LE 26:29, DT 28:53, JE 19:9, EZ 5:8-10), I won't ever speak out against a leader because I'll turn into a leper if I do (NU 12:1-10), I'll kill anyone who is collecting wood on a Sunday (NU 15:32-36), and best of all, when I take over a neighboring tribe, I'll kill all men and women that are not virgins, but I'll keep the virgins for my own 'personal' use (NU 31:17-18 ). My, life gets a whole lot more exciting when you 'live' the bible!

> and learn it.

Okay, after reading the bible, I've learned that snakes eat dust (GE 3:14), That laws regarding the reflection and refraction of light don't apply at certain times (GE 9:12-16), That I should never enter a holy place without wearing bells (EX 28:34-35), that grasshoppers have four legs (LE 11:20-21), that rabbits chew cud (LE 11:6), and that iron floats (2KI 6:5-7).

> Be good.

I always 'be good' to myself

> Love ya.

No you don't, you don't even know me

> Jay