Damien (damien_the_blasphemous) joined the room.
     brenton_spears: because those two postings of mine were carefully crafted by me to serve in rebuttal to itska's claims..
     brenton_spears: looks like another one bites the dust
     brenton_spears: itska this time
     Damien: Ah brenton, who has lost to your superior reasoning skills in your own delusional little world this time?
     brenton_spears: damiennnnnn you didnt witness the thrashing i handed out to itska...
     Damien: Brenton, no, not yet, but as soon as it appears on gremlin.net, I'll be able to see it in it's entirety.
     Damien: As for 'thrashing', that remains to be seen.
     grapesofmelancholy: brenton, funny how brenton was polite to you. it's quite amazing actually considerig a) what an ass you were to him and b) how idiotic and, well, sad you have proven yourself to be
     rendermaster: reading a roll of toilet paper would be more enlightening than reading anything brenton has to say
     brenton_spears: he tried picking on an uninformed christian loser by the name of mitch who was so garbled in his thoughts he couldnt compose a coherent response......and i stepped into the fray...putting the bully in his place and quite typically saving the day
     Damien: grapes, who are you talking about?
     brenton_spears: here are the 2 masterful postings which served to stun him into abject silence....
     grapesofmelancholy: whooops, i meant funny how itskafka was polite to brenton
     grapesofmelancholy: damn that ADD
     brenton_spears: 1-2..knocks out this loser
     Damien: Brenton, sure you did, sure you did, and I'm sure all the 'chicks' in here were amazed by your ability and immediately wanted to have your baby, right?
     brenton_spears: here they are live and learn
     grapesofmelancholy: brenton.......POST THAT SHIT IN PM
     grapesofmelancholy: please
     suicyde_alley: LMFAO Damien
     Damien: Ah, okay grapes, I was worried for a second.
     rendermaster: the closest brenton comes to a woman is the one that arrives via fedex in a plain, brown paper package and has to be inflated
     brenton_spears: so it isnt that they would kill their kids whereas we would not...but that whereas we have a reason to be consistenly objecting to the practice of child-murder on the grounds of its inherent evil...atheists however dont have a reason to be objecting to it apart from recording their dislike of it....the fact that kids on their view live only once isnt a reason....unless it be argued that the value intrinsic to preserving the life of a human provided that it is the only one it will ever have, is objective..furthermore.,.the fact that morality on the atheist view is a product of evolutionary conditioning won't render it objective ...because this begs the question: why the heck should i obey my conditioning?..also can 't this conditioning incline me at times to do evil???
     grapesofmelancholy: lmao damien
     Damien: Grapes, no, don't tell him that.
     grapesofmelancholy: damien, heh
     brenton_spears: obviously itsaka..on your view my morality is derived from a source not dissimilar to yours...but that statement of yours besides begging the question of the truth of atheism misses the point entirely...the point being that unless you held (whether falsely or othewise) your morality to be objective ...you cannot consistently condemn a person for indulging himself in the act of child-murder...simply because for him such a act might well be moral.....so your 'argument' amounts in fact to a tacit admission that on the atheistic view morality is viciously subjective.(since its being the product of evolutionary conditioning ,as you hold, would not suffice to confer upon it the requisite objectivity) so that the conclusion necessarily follows that you lack a ground (such as alone should be afforded by positing a transcendent base as the ground for a system of ethics)on the basis which to be CONSISTENLY CONDEMNING HEINOUS ACTS SUCH AS CHILD-MUDER
     rose_nymph: That's it. I had to ignore him.
     Damien: Every post by Brenton is now going appear on gremlin.net in it's full idiotic entirety.
     brenton_spears: with these 2 responses which were mounted by me in direct challenge to his assertions itska was floored
     rendermaster: is this hardcore mashochist hour? is that why some are refusing to ignore brenton?
     brenton_spears: like he was the kingpin..and im like ben affleck in his guise of daredevil..
     grapesofmelancholy: brenton, i would post itskafka's paragraphs which squashed yours, but i dont want to be a spamming asshole
     suicyde_alley: More like 'bored' Brenton.
     Damien: Render, Brenton is something of a celebrity.
     rendermaster: no, he's a pathetic fool who thrives on the negative attention
     grapesofmelancholy: lmao at brenton. he has "daredevil" fantasies. how cute and quaint
     drugtestfriday: brendton is certainly a celebrity and many other things in his own mind
     Damien: Yeah brenton, you're both blind and stupid. A rather fitting analogy if I say so myself.
     rendermaster: and in here, he gets it, unfortunately
     rendermaster: yesterday, when everyone finally ignored him, HE LEFT
     brenton_spears: i mean like ..imagine a man without fear that's me..and villains without remorse (grem indon and itska..itska who bullies christian girls)..and a battle without limits
     brenton_spears: waiittt look damien
     brenton_spears: i dont want u posting this there
     Damien: Brenton, too bad, it's going.
     Chainsaw Psycho: Render: Yeah, some people just don't understand that trolls must be ignored.
     suicyde_alley: Too late Brenton...lmao
     brenton_spears: no direct quoting of me please...paraphrase fine....
     rendermaster: I used to have much more tolerance for trolls a few years ago - now, I'll ignore them after their first remark
     Damien: You see brenton, the more you don't want us to expose your ignorance in a forum, the more likely we are to do it.
     brenton_spears: look i dont want to be associated with that monster's lair of sin
     Primal: loves to iggy trolls
     Damien: Ah yes, another 'no direct quote' line, that one's definately going on!
     grapesofmelancholy: damien, where are you posting this?
     suicyde_alley: It's your cross Brenton, bear it.
     Damien: Grapes, gremlin.net.
     rendermaster: gremlin.net
     grapesofmelancholy: damien, sweet
     Damien: http://gremlin.net/cgi-data/2003-01/index.html
     the_armori: Maybe there is a God. Who knew the Ignore button on Brenton could feel so divine??
     rendermaster: lol armori
     brenton_spears: ill be right back ...pilgrims....just a sec..
     Damien: Check it out, brenton's a bit of a celebrity there.
     brenton_spears: llook dont click on that link..ok
     grapesofmelancholy: brenton, sorry. too late
     brenton_spears: i dont repeat DO NOT ENDORSE that site..and its contents
     father_o_fondlin: brenton, you are nuts.
     father_o_fondlin: Do you know this?
     rendermaster: yes, amori - that someone was imbued with the intelligence and the wherewithall to invent the ignore button is quite a compelling bit of evidence that a god exists
     Damien: Brenton, all the more reason to visit it.
     suicyde_alley: Brenton, most of us already have it booked...sorry.
     grapesofmelancholy: brenton, how old are you? if you dont mind my asking
     itskafka: So waht did I miss? I was busy documenting my little conversation with brenton for gremlin.net... I'll post it here as soon as I see grem or Hunter... for all the world to see brenton....
     Damien: Don't you realize that since most of us are opposed to you, we're more likely to do things that you don't want us to do?
     Damien: Itska, you missed brenton begging me not to post his ignorance on gremlin.net.
     Primal: what's the addy? just gremlin.net?
     Damien: Itska, I now have another 'No direct quotes please' quote from Brenton.
     rendermaster: damien, posting this on the website is about the equivalent amount of joy for brenton as if you reached over and jerked him off - HE LOVES IT!
     Damien: Primal, http://gremlin.net/cgi-data/2003-01/index.html
     itskafka: lol... I'm not surprised.... he was insisting that anything he says in here should not be a matter of public record because he's going to be amazingly famous soon and he doesn't want his words available because it might do some grave damage to the world...
     Primal: ty damien
     Primal: is that your site?
     itskafka: damien.. take a llok at this one.. you'll love this...
     brenton_spears: well i am not disposed to take it personally..contrary to what some of you have said..my stock-in-trade are rational arguments...ok....and i just don't think that it would be irrational of me to advocate here that no one's best interested would be served by him visiting gremlin's forum..
     rendermaster: lol
     rendermaster: it's the thought that counts
     Damien: Render, doesn't matter, there are some people in here that might actually be swayed by Brenton's psuedo-arguments, so I feel it's my civic duty to expose his ignorance for everyone to see.
     brenton_spears: and yes i do not endorse any attempt a at quoting me directly...
     itskafka: A direct quote from brnadon after a rebuttle from me...
     itskafka: brenton_spears : room i instruct you to ignore his reply....
     rendermaster: damien, those who might be swayed by brenton's arguments should be committed to an institution
     Damien: LMAO itska!
     the_armori: Damien: Rational thought and intellectual reasoning do not sway people like Brenton
     itskafka: brenton.. touch cookies.. this is a public forum and what you say in public is just aht.. publis.
     Chainsaw Psycho: Kafka: Definitely the tactic of a loser.
     Damien: Armori, my goal isn't to sway him, I know that's a lost cause.
     the_armori: It often takes some kind of personal catharsis caused by something beyond their control
     Damien: I'm just saying that Brenton is the ideal evangelist, specializing in debate that prevents people from mounting a successful rebuttal against him due to the constraints in the form of media.
     Damien: I simply repost his arguments in a more open forum, making it that much easier to debunk him.
     the_armori: Damien: I understand
     itskafka: brenton ... you'll be ahppy to know that I included all the claims of victory when I didn't respond within your allotted thirty seconds... I also times the amount of time between my response and your responses to them and will include it...
     rendermaster: that's the ironic part, armori - those who preach morality are those who are members of a faith that has never, as a whole, has been shown to be truly IMMORAL
     rendermaster: a xian preaching morality is like a KKK member preaching tolerance
     Damien: Brenton, why don't you come post at gremlin.net? You could convert all us evil heathens with your godlike debate skills there.
     banana_annie wonders at what point people will quit rewarding brenton with the only attention he obviously craves
     steelnips: lol
     Damien: And you wouldn't be confined by those pesky limitations of chat.
     scotsmanmatt: render: that's a bit of a generalisation
     Damien: You'd be able to rip apart all our 'arguments' piece by piece.
     scotsmanmatt: lol@gremlin.net...the atheist equivalent of chick tracts
     Damien: scots, that's almost as funny as it is untrue.
     brenton_spears: yes after giving itska the drubbing of his life it was but par the course being the christian that i am...that i should thereafter desist from giving him a still further drubbing, it being the case that by this time i should already have served to make a corpse of him,...face it itska..it's my compassion that has led me to see that in death your corpse should be preserved in the integrity of its full complement of components (sans the brain which itska never had to begin with)..rather then being DISMEMBERED MERCILESSLY
     scotsmanmatt: damien: well....we obviously judge quality different
     Damien: Scots, knowing your history here, I'd say that you're one of the last people I'd want to get a quality judgement from.
     itskafka: brenton.. as I said.. it will all be on gremlin.net soon.. everyone can judge for themselves.. I'm perfectly comfortable with that.
     scotsmanmatt: damien: well, that would only confirm my above statement.
     brenton_spears: itska..it's offcial now..you're the latest in a long line of contenders for the title that i have shot down...
     Damien: Brenton, it's funny how much further you condemn yourself with each post.
     itskafka: brenton.. uh-huh.. sure. As I said... it will be public record...everyone can see for themselves.
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Follow Ups:

• Brenton promises to bring his 'crew' in posted by Damien [24.159.250.195 - 24-159-250-195.jvl.wi.charter.com] on 26 February 2003 at 19.59.03 ZuluTime (0)