28 February 2003 at 10.34.01 ZuluTime
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Posted by Hunter [12.211.199.55 - 12-211-199-55.client.attbi.com] on 28 February 2003 at 10.34.01 ZuluTime:
brenton_spears :
LOG DATA Thu, 27 Feb 2003 06:32:52 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
Summisse_Eloquens : Bobwar: I've read Job..it is kind of a comedy in that tragic way...and it certainly was a miscarriage of justice. *smile* It must suck to get stuck in the middle of a gambling game between two gods.
brenton_spears :that is an evillllll book
Summisse_Eloquens :
LOG DATA Thu, 27 Feb 2003 06:33:52 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
cloud_monger : brenton, you would like it since you are a gay atheist
brenton_spears :hi candice/.//in that book jesus is portrayed as corpulent and smarmy correct???
indondasani : which book did brenton call evil?
brenton_spears :that is evilll
indondasani : Job: A Comedy of Justice?
cloud_monger : yes , jesus is 300 pounds
brenton_spears :blasphemmyyyy
hunter_the_crazychick : bets brenton thinks that jesus was a white guy with red hair....
LOG DATA Thu, 27 Feb 2003 06:34:52 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
indondasani : hunter; I bet blonde hair.
malevolentrapture : hi bren, u giving me another cahnce to embarris u huh?
bobwar69 : hunter>>no he had blond hair....lmfao
cloud_monger : thinks brenton should open his heart to some well written blasphemy
LOG DATA Thu, 27 Feb 2003 06:35:52 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
LOG DATA Thu, 27 Feb 2003 06:36:52 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
malevolentrapture : coem on bren, i need a victim
LOG DATA Thu, 27 Feb 2003 06:37:52 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
LOG DATA Thu, 27 Feb 2003 06:38:52 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears :live from golgotha/.///never read it myself but i read a review of it ....which said that in it christ was portrayed as a corpulent individual....the circumstances of his life..a consideration of them would render it apparent that he cannot possibly have been fat////furthermore we know as christians that the human nature he inherited from mary was perfect in every way, although it certainly was laden with the specific defects that it had pleased christ to associate it with to the end that it might thereby be shown forth that it should have been in nothing less than the likeness of sinful flesh that the son of god had elected to make his presence felt among us during the season of his first advent
LOG DATA Thu, 27 Feb 2003 06:39:52 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
tricia_and_chiefblades : isn't there a poem by keats, called hyperion?
hyperion832002 : don'tknow don't care
brenton_spears :mal....i destroyed u in our last convo...want to have another go...fine im game....
tricia_and_chiefblades : oh, just thought thats what you name came from
brenton_spears :i left earlier because i had pressing matters to be attending to....
tricia_and_chiefblades : I have it somewhere
indondasani : brenton; the fact that you're bragging about victory demonstrates that you got your ass thrashed.
LOG DATA Thu, 27 Feb 2003 06:40:52 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
cloud_monger : brenton, jesus was 300 pounds, we have table cloth of turin to prove it
brenton_spears :mallie dont delude yourself punk...trust me you wouldnt want to be the recipent of my undivided attention.....guys think a roach caught in the glare of my gaze.....and spontaneously combusting as a result
LOG DATA Thu, 27 Feb 2003 06:41:52 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears :fine im game for a rematch bud....
hyperion832002 : all religions are human made and fictions
candice2027 : Brenton, you r 2 much
indondasani : brenton; a roach could eat you.
hyperion832002 : who are agree with me
brenton_spears :youve dared me......and now i wnat your blood...
LOG DATA Thu, 27 Feb 2003 06:42:52 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears :mallliee....dont pick on kirsten...
hunter_the_crazychick : laughs at brenton.
Summisse_Eloquens : Nothing like a pissing match.
bobwar69 : god is a myth created by man,period
munkey_atheist : hey brenton check this out: http://www.geocities.com/pa65000_us/CheckThis.mpg
LOG DATA Thu, 27 Feb 2003 06:43:52 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hyperion832002 : religions are the easiest ways to control humans
brenton_spears :try me out for size.......pick on a real man.....mallie...pity i don't save transcripts so i cant repost my definitive asnwer to mal..which destroyed his position effectively...but its ok he can ask to be punished yet again
bobwar69 : I must have brenton on perm iggy
brenton_spears :and boy..u dont even have to say pretty please..u ugly loser....
malevolentrapture : again brn, bring it, id like to embaress u infront of all the people u are trying to impress
hunter_the_crazychick : bob: lucky you. He's a dishonest loser.
brenton_spears :shoot now..and see what comes...
indondasani : brenton; facing you and picking on a man are mutually exclusive events.
LOG DATA Thu, 27 Feb 2003 06:44:52 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears :mallie u and me..pal..right here right now lets mix it up...in front of witnesses
brenton_spears :come on do it
Summisse_Eloquens : Malevolentrapture, and Brenton if you are going to go at it, get to it and quit circling with the threats.
triciabeeblebrox : hyperion is also a moon of saturn
brenton_spears :and room dont click on the link that the evil monkey has posted.....pleasssee e dont
brenton_spears :it leads to an evil picture
hyperion832002 : i am not sure about saturn but iknow it is a moon
LOG DATA Thu, 27 Feb 2003 06:45:52 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears :dont a scary horrific picture dont please...
munkey_atheist : brenton_spears: its not a picture.
triciabeeblebrox : Hyperion arose, and on the stars 350 Lifted his curved lids, and kept them wide Until it ceas’d; and still he kept them wide: And still they were the same bright, patient stars. Then with a slow incline of his broad breast, Like to a diver in the pearly seas, 355 Forward he stoop’d over the airy shore, And plung’d all noiseless into the deep night.
indondasani : hunter; kinda funny how brenton's now the new object of ridicule for the whole board.
hyperion832002 : people created greek gods people careated egyptian gods and now again.....it will go forever
brenton_spears :sorry was distracted ...shoot again.....mallie/.///that munkey made my fingers quiver...with his posting of that link.....
LOG DATA Thu, 27 Feb 2003 06:46:52 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears :and im not one to be shaken up so easily...ive played a match with my own blood adorning my face....went all the way...
LOG DATA Thu, 27 Feb 2003 06:47:52 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears :so mal ok..shoot..ill deal with u now....
cloud_monger : brenton, you went all the way with yourself?
Summisse_Eloquens : Brenton_spears: Is there some reason that you feel the need to convince everyone that you are all man? A manly man?
Summisse_Eloquens : *shakeshead*
LOG DATA Thu, 27 Feb 2003 06:48:52 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears :yeah i am proud of my masculinity ....and the fact that it is evidenced by the manner of the man that i am physically...
hunter_the_crazychick : Summisse: because he sleeps with mommy and wears her dresses?
Summisse_Eloquens : Hunter: oh.
brenton_spears :look guys..i dont endorse that web-site..if i were u i wouldnt go there....dont ...
munkey_atheist : brenton_spears: did you look at http://www.geocities.com/pa65000_us/CheckThis.mpg
LOG DATA Thu, 27 Feb 2003 06:49:52 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears :that is gremlin's site....and he is connected to slipknot...
brenton_spears :corey of slipknot endorses that site....
Summisse_Eloquens : Brenton_spears: Being proud of your masculinity is one thing, that you have to proclaim it from the rooftops makes me question it...
brenton_spears :so u shouldnt visit it...
hunter_the_crazychick : brenton doesn't endorse gremlin.net because the people on the board are posting full transcripts of him, showing that he's a fucking liar.
bobwar69 : brenton is a blithering idiot who has a phsycological problem why does anyone debate with him
LOG DATA Thu, 27 Feb 2003 06:50:52 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
LOG DATA Thu, 27 Feb 2003 06:51:52 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears :fine since no one wishes or dares to engage me in debate ill weigh in with an opinion of my own ....regarding something someone said earlier...this person u see had asked in what sense it might be posited that the greek gods are real.....now my answer is as here follows
LOG DATA Thu, 27 Feb 2003 06:52:52 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
indondasani : brenton; well, you can debate us on wether you might have once won a debate at some point in your life.
LOG DATA Thu, 27 Feb 2003 06:53:52 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
munkey_atheist : brenton_spears: Did you sleep in your mom's bed last night?
cloud_monger : brenton sleeps over at neverland
LOG DATA Thu, 27 Feb 2003 06:54:52 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
cloud_monger : greek gods at least personified aspects of nature and stuff - not totally fiction
LOG DATA Thu, 27 Feb 2003 06:55:52 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
Summisse_Eloquens : Cloud_monger: And isn't that what it was really about, the aspects that they personified..beauty blah blah the concept behind, not really the Gods themselves.
Summisse_Eloquens : *shrugs*
LOG DATA Thu, 27 Feb 2003 06:56:52 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
cloud_monger : i think myths can be read on many levels - sometimes memories of real people and history perhaps
LOG DATA Thu, 27 Feb 2003 06:57:52 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
LOG DATA Thu, 27 Feb 2003 06:58:52 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears :the greek gods are not real according as they are to be understood under the aspect of the various roles they should each have been respectively portrayed as playing in the various myths that the greeks have told of them...however insofar as they are the rather to be considered under the aspect of that with which one or other of their worshippers should have necessarily to do, whether he realises it or not, in his very act of worshipping them...then they are most emphatically real and this because it should be the case that it is in fact the demons who shall have been served to be adored thereby.....herein lies the reconciliation as it were between the scriptural denunciation of the idols as unreal...and the scriptural affirmation that in some sense nonetheless worship directed to them is in fact directed to real beings...
brenton_spears :thus the bible says the idols are unreal and yet that THE GODS OF THE GENTILES ARE DEMONS...
purgate_my_stain :
LOG DATA Thu, 27 Feb 2003 06:59:52 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears :so the greek myths about the greek gods are unreal...but the worship of these false deities is nonetheless accepted by demons....rather it is dirceted to the latter...
cloud_monger : brenton, means to say: gods of the pagans were the fallen angels
LOG DATA Thu, 27 Feb 2003 07:00:52 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears :that is why the holy fathers have denounced pagan worship as demonic..
brenton_spears :and why neo-paganism is simply the worship of dmeons
LOG DATA Thu, 27 Feb 2003 07:01:52 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears :hunter yu werent around earlier to see me masterfully reply to the query about greek gods......
brenton_spears :i have won.....that mini-debate
hunter_the_crazychick : brenton_spears: no, you haven't.
brenton_spears :not as protracted to be sure as the one involving indon...
hunter_the_crazychick : brenton_spears: thanks for the declaration, though. It'll look nice transcripted with all your other pompous ramblings and losses.
hunter_the_crazychick : brenton: there was no debate. Look. No debate. No evidence of debate.
indondasani : hmm, brenton's claiming to have won. he must have lost.
brenton_spears :hunter loook..u dont hav eto do that..just let it go...
LOG DATA Thu, 27 Feb 2003 07:02:52 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : brenton: let what go? The fact that you're a lying brat?
brenton_spears :indon this was that reply was definitively answered the question about the correct view to be taken of greek gods..
brenton_spears :the greek gods are not real according as they are to be understood under the aspect of the various roles they should each have been respectively portrayed as playing in the various myths that the greeks have told of them...however insofar as they are the rather to be considered under the aspect of that with which one or other of their worshippers should have necessarily to do, whether he realises it or not, in his very act of worshipping them...then they are most emphatically real and this because it should be the case that it is in fact the demons who shall have been served to be adored thereby.....herein lies the reconciliation as it were between the scriptural denunciation of the idols as unreal...and the scriptural affirmation that in some sense nonetheless worship directed to them is in fact directed to real beings...
brenton_spears :that was the reply that settled the issue....
hunter_the_crazychick : Brenton says "my god is the only real god nyeh nyeh I win"
brenton_spears :now the room is clear about what position to adopt in relation to pagan deities...
LOG DATA Thu, 27 Feb 2003 07:04:52 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
bobwar69 : brenton the only "proofs" you state in your arguments are from the bible,the bible can not be used as a trustworthy guide in history it was not written by the people it is ascribed to and was not written in the time period attributed to it ,in other words >>ITS BULLSHIT!
hunter_the_crazychick : brenton: 'what position to adopt'? Nobody's on your side, kiddo, now take your fucking ball and go the fuck home. Don't give me anything more to post. JUST. GO. HOME.
brenton_spears :that is the appropriately nuanced christian position on the nature of idol-worship...as enacted by pagans...
LOG DATA Thu, 27 Feb 2003 07:05:52 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brenton_spears :the bible is the word of god..it is utterly infallible...
brenton_spears :we may err in our interpretation of it...
brenton_spears :but the biblical text itself is utterly without error..
brenton_spears :it is a grave sin to dare to call this holy truth into question
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