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Posted by Hunter [12.211.202.152 - 12-211-202-152.client.attbi.com] on 12 June 2003 at 17.44.38 ZuluTime:
scotsmanmatt :
LOG DATA Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:11:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
damien_the_demon_kitty : tries to casually cross his legs.
death_blooms_311 : Who all in here are christian ???
religionfree_1 : the bible diety is a racist, insecure tyrant that enjoys the slaughter of animals, and people
curious_for_2004 : YES I THINK THE BIG BANG THEORY WAS AND IS IMPOSSIBLE
agn0stic_and_atheist : death_blooms_311 - I'm an atheist.
chris_terial7 :
curious_for_2004 : FOR ONE WHO CREATED THE MONKEYS
damien_the_demon_kitty : realizes he can't because kitty is sitting on them.
nate_w2003 : I THINK THE BIG BANG WAS IMPOSSIBLE, BECAUSE SOMETHING HAD TO CREATE THINGS TO HAVE A BIG BANG, NOTHING ALL THE SUDDEN WENT BOOM AND CREATED A WORLD
deahca2 : curious. Now, I'm curious. did some clergy of your religion tell you NEVER to believe in science? that is is somehow evil?
curious_for_2004 : OR APES WHATEVER
curious_for_2004 : CORRECT NATE
deahca2 : not apes, curious.That's later. '
agn0stic_and_atheist : I think fundies love capital text - lol
Theophrenie : « 2004, that statement makes no sense. Impossible theory?
curious_for_2004 : THATS EXACTLY WHAT I THINK
deahca2 : Now why do you believe that the big bang theory is impossible.?
LOG DATA Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:12:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
vash_stampede182 : nate do u think only christians wil be save?????????
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : giggles again
curious_for_2004 : OK THEO EXCUSE ME FOR MY MISUSE OF WORDS
damien_the_demon_kitty : temporarily disappears from the world of chat...
damien_the_demon_kitty : Poof!
damien_the_demon_kitty :
golconda2.rm : curious how do you so casually discount the MASSIVE amount of EVIDENCE in favor of evolution?
death_blooms_311 : <------is Wiccan
happy_atheist2001 :
johntheantibaptist : why do some christians confuse the big bang with evolution, they are seperate events that happened billions of years apart.
deahca2 : You must have some reason , curious for NOT believing in the theory of the big bang. I'd love to hear it.
agn0stic_and_atheist : golconda2.rm - they close their eyes and hope it'll go away.
full_flavor_menthol : How often it is that the angry man rages denial of what his inner self is telling him.
LOG DATA Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:13:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
tommyboyfury : u sure?
golconda2.rm : john, it's the inherent anti-intellectualism in xianity
deadman_932 :
curious_for_2004 : GOLCONDA WHY DO YOU SO CASUALLY DISCOUNT THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF EVIDENCE IN FAVOR OF JESUS CHRIST
happy_atheist2001 : maybe because scientists sometimes talk about the evolution of the universe...meaning it in a different sense
tommyboyfury : they were probably fighting
gypsymoon_32 : phone call..
scotsmanmatt : is away (Away)
scotsmanmatt : is back
scotsmanmatt : hello everyone
agn0stic_and_atheist : curious_for_2004 - 'massive'?
deahca2 : curious, I have MORE evidence that Jesus was NOT the messiah.
johntheantibaptist : golcon i think you may be right.
religionfree_1 : massive? one book is massive.. nahhhh
aliassumpution : they havent found them yet
curious_for_2004 : TELL ME DEACHA
gypsymoon_32 : hi scot
vash_stampede182 : jesus is just a prreacher
golconda2.rm : curious, produce your supposed evidence, and I'll show how it is nothing more than supposition, pseudoscience, and blind faith!
deahca2 : And curious, that would be BIBLICAL evidence , by the way
scotsmanmatt : <-- rational defender of the Christian religion and its Scriptures
deahca2 : How great is your knowledge of the Davidic Prophecies?
LOG DATA Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:14:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
golconda2.rm : scotsmanmatt---> DOCUMENTED fraud
curious_for_2004 : DEACHA DO YOU HAVE A BIBLE
vash_stampede182 : who wrote the bible then???????
deahca2 : Yes, I have a Christian bible here
religionfree_1 : 8-|
curious_for_2004 : EXCUSE ME DEACHA
deahca2 : men, vash, men
scotsmanmatt : golconda --->chickenshit asshole
agn0stic_and_atheist : scotsmanmatt - let me introduce you to curious_for_2004, he's on your side by the way....lol
full_flavor_menthol : theo>actually I was just randomly quoting something. Bored.
vash_stampede182 : then if men wrote the bible there is a possibility that its fiction
curious_for_2004 : THANK YOU
LOG DATA Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:15:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
golconda2.rm : scotsmatt, I reduced you to profanity already, thanks for proving me correct (click)
curious_for_2004 : HIT SCOT
deadman_932 : haha
curious_for_2004 : *HI SCOT
deahca2 : vash, it was never intended to be taken literally
full_flavor_menthol : -"the collected sayings of Muad'Dib-
agn0stic_and_atheist : (giggles)
deadman_932 : wow, matt...testy are we?
happy_atheist2001 : curious for 2004? i dont' see anyone in the room called that :S
god_noye :
Theophrenie : « ah, Dune.
vash_stampede182 : then its stilll fiction.......man made
scotsmanmatt : golconda's trademark debatiing style...put all opposition on ignore and declare that no opposition has ever refuted his arguments lol
full_flavor_menthol : theo>Yes.
vash_stampede182 : religion was made for money
gypsymoon_32 : i cant hear you very well
deadman_932 : scot, you're far worse
deadman_932 : sorry
god_noye : hello fellows
LOG DATA Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:16:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
curious_for_2004 : EXPLAIN THAT TO ME VASH
deahca2 : Did you run to get your bible, curious
happy_atheist2001 : scott, i wouldn't call "chickenshit asshole" a refutation lol
hunter_the_crazychick : has to back deadman on that.
agn0stic_and_atheist : Jesus was never sacrificed - God knew that there'd be a resurrection, it was a fraud....
curious_for_2004 : NO
lochnar4 :
curious_for_2004 : I'M STILL HERE
death_blooms_311 :
curious_for_2004 : ALTHOUGH I DO HAVE MY BIBLE
scotsmanmatt : deadman: When the opinions of biased, subjective, blind atheists count for anything with me I'll let you know
dwstubbs49 :
deahca2 : not all fictions, vash. some of it is history, some is commentary, some story, even a few ads
deadman_932 : haha
Theophrenie : « I thought it was fundy claim why atheists are atheists, cuz they are angry men in self denial of the god they really knows lives within them all.
curious_for_2004 : AGNOSTIC YOU ARE A NUT CASE
happy_atheist2001 : scot, nice show of intolerance :)
apollojedi :
agn0stic_and_atheist : scotsmanmatt your opinions are neutral?
deadman_932 : wow, scots must have gotten his peepee spanked last night
god_noye :
scotsmanmatt : agn0stic_and_atheist: I debunked that strawperson argument the last time you raised it
curious_for_2004 : LISTEN TO YOURSELF
deahca2 : We strayed from the topic, curious. LOL
LOG DATA Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:17:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deahca2 : hard to chat with a room full of people
vash_stampede182 : ok some of them are true but ow can they prove god the father
curious_for_2004 : I'M SORRY DEACHA
full_flavor_menthol : Theo>No, and actually I was directing the quote in the opposite.
justanotherguytx :
deadman_932 : poor little mattsy
deahca2 : NOt a problem, happens all the time
scotsmanmatt : agn0stic_and_atheist: my opinions are generally focused on the issues and not on the person in an ad hominem [poisoning the well] manner as deadman likes to fo
tormented_soul333 :
vaunn3 :
agn0stic_and_atheist : scotsmanmatt - in your head you debunked it maybe, it still stands as a cogent criticism of the illogical nature of Christianity.
tormented_soul333 : phones ringin dude
Theophrenie : « oh, OK, I will let in slide in that direction.
curious_for_2004 : LOL
lordofdarkness4f :
deadman_932 : sotsman you must be drunk again
lordofdarkness4f : 8-xhello8-x
LOG DATA Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:18:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
scotsmanmatt : agn0stic_and_atheist: How can a PROVEN fallacious argument stand as anything but a testament to poor reasoning.
curious_for_2004 : OH MY GOODNESS
lordofdarkness4f : how are you all?
ram0ss :
curious_for_2004 : OH I WISH I COULD TYPE FASTER
lordofdarkness4f : >-)
vash_stampede182 : Julius Cæsar » Jesus Christ
tormented_soul333 : hahahahahaha
lordofdarkness4f : :-?
agn0stic_and_atheist : scotsmanmatt - you just called someone a 'chickenshit asshole' - and you don't do ad hominems.....ok.
full_flavor_menthol : Theo>Many of the fundies don't know anything about the theories they dismiss, and I find it strange that they refuse to learn anything about the subjects of science.
lordofdarkness4f : whats going on?
curious_for_2004 : LOOK LISTEN TO YOURSELVES
lochnar4 :
deahca2 : this is quite difficult, curious. I suggest you pick ONE or TWO at the most people and pay attention ONLY to their posts
ossama_bin_ian :
Theophrenie : « Is 2004 a liar, stupid, illogical, and not listening?
scotsmanmatt : agn0stic_and_atheist: That isn't an ad hominem but an insult..when you learn the difference then you can remark on it
lordofdarkness4f : hey theo
vash_stampede182 : Christianity was created by the Romans as a tool
johntheantibaptist : theo all of the above
Theophrenie : « hey 4f
LOG DATA Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:19:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
curious_for_2004 : A TOOL FOR WHAT
happy_atheist2001 : does 2004 have another name, becuase i don't see that name anywhere in here lol
imback135790 :
lordofdarkness4f : what are you all about?
tormented_soul333 : . o O (hmm... and i thought "liar liar pants on fire" wasnt a permitted argument anymore)
curious_for_2004 : THEO I'M SORRY I HAVE A 20 PEOPLE ON MY BACK
full_flavor_menthol : happy>Do you see someone named curious?
deadman_932 : when the insult is used in reference to the debate skills of the individual in question, that IS an ad hominem
johntheantibaptist : happy it is curious 2004
Theophrenie : « only 20
happy_atheist2001 : nope, i don't
agn0stic_and_atheist : scotsmanmatt - an ad hominem is an 'attack to the person' - look up the latin if you like.
curious_for_2004 : I WANNA THEM TO UNDERSTAND BUT I CAN'T DO IT BY MYSELF
lordofdarkness4f : f/m?
deahca2 : exactly CURIOUS. PICK ONE OR TWO people ONLY and concentrate ONLY on their posts
Theophrenie : « Jeebus has hundreds
deadman_932 : scotsmanmatt: golconda --->chickenshit asshole scotsmanmatt: golconda's trademark debatiing style...put all opposition on ignore and declare that no opposition has ever refuted his arguments lol
LOG DATA Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:20:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
tommyboyfury : correct
curious_for_2004 : OK DEACHA I WILL TAKE YOUR ADVICE
scotsmanmatt : deadman: no it isn't you asshole..it's only an ad hominem if it IGNORES an argument and instead attacks the person making it..read a text book you idiot
golconda2.rm : curious, I understand you fine: You are an irrational person who relies on blind faith and discounts rational evidence
tommyboyfury : no you cant change the speed
curious_for_2004 : THEO LETS JUST ME AND YOU TALK TELL ME WHAT YOU BELIEVE
tommyboyfury : its constant you fool
happy_atheist2001 : you were replying to something golconda had said scot...so i'd call it ignoring it
vash_stampede182 : all we want is evidence
tormented_soul333 : boys boys.... do you need a timeout
lordofdarkness4f :
vash_stampede182 :
deadman_932 : it's being used in reference to the debating skills and style of the individual to attempt to denigrate such
ossama_bin_ian : Concentrate on me.I'm worth it ;)
scotsmanmatt : agn0stic_and_atheist: ad hominem is a logical fallacy in the context of a debate..when there's no debate there's no ad hominem
deadman_932 : as such, it is an ad hominem
ram0ss :
curious_for_2004 : GOLCONDA DON'T DOWN WHAT I BELIEVE I DIDN'T DOWN YOURS
nate_w2003 : I GIVE PROPS TO CURIOUS, CAUSE SHE IS TRYIN REALLY HARD TO MAK EYOU ALL UNDERSTAND SOMETHIN,AND YOU BEIN ALL CHILDISH ON EM
rob1142hr :
LOG DATA Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:21:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deahca2 : evidence for the existence or non existence of the Lord, vash? never going to happen
tommyboyfury : even if you ran away from a light beam at 180,000 miles per sec it would still be travalling at light speed towards you
curious_for_2004 : VASH THE EVEIDENCE IS INTHE WORD OF gOD
curious_for_2004 : *GOD
golconda2.rm : curious, you have no rational evidence, so you must be relying on blind, irrational faith
tormented_soul333 : Nate: childishness here!!??:O (she said very sarcastically)
scotsmanmatt : <-- tires of teaching agn0stic_and_atheist Christian theology and logic
full_flavor_menthol : Sorry. Don't mean to be hard on the sensitive Christians, but I have had enough of their "love" to last me a lifetime.
rob1142hr : wrong
Theophrenie : « I don't hink there is a god or gods. I think the gods are human inventions. I think Jesus may not be entirely fictional, but most of his alleged minstry is fictional. He is not a god of course.
tommyboyfury : but time would slow down to copensate
ossama_bin_ian :
agn0stic_and_atheist : Christians claim that the death of Jesus, as a consequence of the crucifixion represented the 'sacrifice' by which mankind is given opportunity to be cleansed of sin, but God knew that Jesus would be resurrected, thus the sacrifice was a fraud.
deahca2 : Oh curious. that makes NO SENSE, honey. It's like saying that Harry Potter exists because the book says so
tommyboyfury : relavtive to an observer standing still
LOG DATA Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:22:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
imback135790 : not trur
deadman_932 : my, matt, you should teach yourself, then
curious_for_2004 : GOLCONDA I HAVE EVIDENCE OR ELSE I WOULDN'T BELIEVE IN WHAT I DO
scotsmanmatt : agn0stic_and_atheist: which ignores [once again
deadman_932 : you seem ignorant of even the meaning of an "ad hominem"
rob1142hr : it says in the beginning god created the heavens abd the earth
casper3747 :
johntheantibaptist : lmao lady
golconda2.rm : curious, you mean the bible? That supposedly inerrant book has far too many contradictions, falsehoods, and other irrationalities to be taken seriously
rob1142hr : and it became void
scotsmanmatt : deadman: fuck off asshole
tormented_soul333 : how is it a fraud if he was resurrected?
curious_for_2004 : I SAY THE SAME ABOUT WHAT YOU BELIEF
Theophrenie : « scots wins the ad hom attack
deadman_932 : hahaha
golconda2.rm : tormented, what evidence do you have FOR the resurrection?
LOG DATA Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:23:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : dead: wow. He really hates you.
rob1142hr : tohu and bohu
curious_for_2004 : I DON'T CONDEMN YOU FOR IT I TRY TO HELP YOU TO UNDERSTAND FORM MY POINT OF VIEW
deadman_932 : what's the matter, matt, didn't you get your peepee whacked?
rob1142hr :
tormented_soul333 : beside the point gol..i asked a different question
deahca2 : curious, our BELIEF that the Lord Exists is just that A BELIEF. NO ONE has proof, honey
Jungian_Mastermind_Arai :
golconda2.rm : curious, evolution has EVIDENCE, where's the evidence FOR your diety?
tormented_soul333 : plus i said IF ..pay attention
full_flavor_menthol : So me evidence for a ressurrection OUTSIDE the Bible!
agn0stic_and_atheist : scotsmanmatt - you are in a debating room, in that context you have called someone a 'chickenshit asshole', in my book that deserves a criticsm of ad hominem - attacking a person rather than debating with them.
curious_for_2004 : THE WORD OF GOD GOLCONDA
dwstubbs49 :
scotsmanmatt : deadman: what's the matter...you get refused cyber sex from dusty AGAIN
full_flavor_menthol : so=Show
scotsmanmatt : lol
golconda2.rm : curious, you mean the bible? That supposedly inerrant book has far too many contradictions, falsehoods, and other irrationalities to be taken seriously
tommyboyfury : you could travel at nearly the speed of light and relitive to an observer with 0 velocity, you would be living in slow motion. but it would seem normal to you, and you watch would tick the same speed
curious_for_2004 : I BELIEVE
scotsmanmatt : <-- has seen the transcripts
nate_w2003 : BUT NO ONE HAS PROOF HE DIDN'T EXIST, SO ITS KINDA YOUR OWN OPINION
deadman_932 : matt, i never asked dusty for anything, ever
tormented_soul333 : scots: how is it a fraud IF he was resurrected?
curious_for_2004 : YES I MEAN THE BIBLE
deahca2 : exactly, you BELIEVE, there is not even any proof that we BELIEVE. LOL
Theophrenie : « fossil evidence is not a human invention. Changes in animals are not human inventions. DNA evidence of similarities between humans and apes is not an invention. The gods are a human invemtion.
deadman_932 : i don't LIKE dusty, matt
scotsmanmatt : deadman: you're a liar
LOG DATA Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:24:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gypsymoon_32 : tony you sound like your in a windtunnel
nate_w2003 : CHOOSE WHATEVER YOU WANT, BUT IN THE END, SOMEONE IS GONNA BE REALLY WRONG
deadman_932 : no, matt, ask her
deahca2 : There just is NO proof for or against the Lord
scotsmanmatt : deadman: of course you don't..she refused you cybersex
full_flavor_menthol : Where is there evidence of this event outside the Bible?
deadman_932 : you're a liar, matt
agn0stic_and_atheist : scotsmanmatt has quite filthy mouth when he's struggling to defend his religion I notice...
curious_for_2004 : I HAVEN'T SEEN BUT I'VE HEARD
scotsmanmatt : deadman: lol....
curious_for_2004 : EXACTLY NATE
ram0ss : Nat, and yoiu are going to be wrong, becaue YOU DON'T BELIVE IN SHIVA
deadman_932 : and if you're claiming dusty SAID that, i'd like you to say it now
Theophrenie : « nate, you arer already wrong.
deadman_932 : are you saying DUSTY said that?
curious_for_2004 : THE EVEIDENCE OUTSIDE THE BIBLE IS ALL AROUND YOU
yokozuma_us :
full_flavor_menthol : Mithra is pissed that you don't worship him!
nate_w2003 : SEE, YOU CAN'T SAY SAY I AM WRONG THEO
scotsmanmatt : deadman: I'm under no obligation to a pervert like you to substantiate anything
deadman_932 : cause that's the ONLY way you can claim it
nate_w2003 : CAUSE YOU CAN'T PROVE I AM WRONG
hunter_the_crazychick : refuses deadman cybersex, just so she can get accused of bullshit later.
LOG DATA Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:25:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deadman_932 : hahaha
gypsymoon_32 : has to make phone call...muteing
tormented_soul333 : this room is ridiculous
nate_w2003 : I CAN'T PROVE YOU ARE WRONG
johntheantibaptist : curious nature is only proof of nature.
hunter_the_crazychick : dead; oh wow, he's using the zevnak argument!
nate_w2003 : I CAN BELIEVE YOU ARE WRONG, THATS ALL
Jungian_Mastermind_Arai : Is Dusty actually in here?
full_flavor_menthol : For the validity of the Bible? I think not.
deadman_932 : to "substantiate" a claim like that you can't??
Jungian_Mastermind_Arai : "I don't have to prove anything to a _____."
scotsmanmatt : deadman = pervery
Theophrenie : « 2004, your claim is ofcourse patently false. I could eeasily say, everything is evidence of Tinkerbells magic Wand.
deadman_932 : hey matt, you really ARE fucking desperate
johntheantibaptist : yoko, you are as annoying as your namesake yoko ono.
hunter_the_crazychick : Joshie: the pervert argument.
johntheantibaptist : and sound just as bad.
deahca2 : excellent point deadman. Other religions say in THEIR books that SHIVA exists. By your logic that your bible is the word of the Lord then Shiva exists and is also a god
gypsymoon_32 : sigh my doctor is never their
scotsmanmatt : deadman <--- frustrated pervert
deadman_932 : matt? can you show that?
LOG DATA Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:26:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deadman_932 : can you demonstrate the validity of your claim?
gypsymoon_32 : lol full
scotsmanmatt : deadman: glad you get the point
agn0stic_and_atheist : tormented_soul333 - it is a fraud because if God always knew (as He must) that Jesus was going to be resurrected, the crucifiction is no more than an act of theatrics on God's part.
curious_for_2004 : IT'S A CHAPTER IN MATTHEW ABOUT THE SIGNS OF THE END AND WHEN YOU LOOK AND THEM IT'S ACTUALLY OCCURING NOW
deadman_932 : naw, matt, you get no points
nate_w2003 : THATS THE ONLY THING I DON'T LIKE, YOU RESORT TO THINGS YOU KNOW ARE FALSE, LIKE THE EXISTENCE OF SANTA CLAUSE AND THE TINKERBELL, BUT YOU CAN'T PROVE THERE WAS NO GOD
golconda2.rm : curious, more twisted "prophecies"
hunter_the_crazychick : scots is big on the bullshit today....
deahca2 : By a witchs bible here that state that the goddess exists, then that TOO must be true. Darn, the room is getting FULL of gods
hunter_the_crazychick : is impressed.
scotsmanmatt : agn0stic_and_atheist tries his strawperson argument once more
full_flavor_menthol : Vague signs, beget vague events!
hunter_the_crazychick : dead: What the fuck did you do to him?
curious_for_2004 : NO GOLCONDA
Jungian_Mastermind_Arai : Again, is Dusty actually here?
happy_atheist2001 : nate, i'd like you to prove that tinkerbell doesn't exist.
hunter_the_crazychick : Joshie: not that I see.
deahca2 : From what I read of the NT prophecies they are taken from the scriptures of Judaism
scotsmanmatt : Jungian: No..she's not
Theophrenie : « 2004, name one event that is reported in Matthew that is occuring today only nad has never occured before?
LOG DATA Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:27:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
Jungian_Mastermind_Arai : Well that's convienient, isn't it.
hunter_the_crazychick : Joshie: very.
deadman_932 : poor little matt
curious_for_2004 : OK
deahca2 : Not new prophecies at all
Jungian_Mastermind_Arai : Can you provide a transcript demonstrating Dusty turned him down for cybersex, scotsmanmatt?
nate_w2003 : BECAUSE EVERYONE KNOWS IT WAS MADE UP FOR A MOVIE
full_flavor_menthol : The bible has never said such event will happen on a specific date at a specific hour involving a specific person.
curious_for_2004 : MATTHEW 24 FOR EXAMPLE
nate_w2003 : YOU CAN'T PROVE GOD WAS NON EXISTENT
johntheantibaptist : curious they have been saying that those events have been "occuring " for 2000 years, every generation has some event that can be claimed to fit those predictions.
scotsmanmatt : <-- would rather be poor than a perverted reject
scotsmanmatt : Jungian: no
deadman_932 : i'll make sure that dusty finds out you claim i tried to cyber her, though, matt
deahca2 : did Jesus lie?
deadman_932 : and we'll see the response
scotsmanmatt : deadman: no probs...
Jungian_Mastermind_Arai : scotsmanmatt, then stop making silly, unsubstansiated claims.
deahca2 : hmmm?
gypsymoon_32 : lol
christian_hillbilly_ky : gives tony_met2002 a big hug
golconda2.rm : curious the supposed "prophecies" in your bible are so vague that they can be applied to virtually any event at any time
LOG DATA Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:28:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
curious_for_2004 : EXACTLY SOME HAVE CAME TO PASS AND SOEM HAVEN'T
tormented_soul333 : so what if it IS a little theatrics..if he is the CREATOR..he can do as he pleases NO? but i hardly think that is a valid argument.... if God is all knowing he knows what is going to HAPPEN no matter what....whos going to do this or that ...etc...
curious_for_2004 : *SOME
Theophrenie : « nate, everyone knows is an argument known as a fallacy from numbers arguement numerum, a false claim.
deadman_932 : you're quite the liar, matt
agn0stic_and_atheist : scotsmanmatt 1) Christains claim that the death of Jesus was his sacrifice 2) God, if omniscient, must alway have know there would be a resurrection 3) If God always know Jesus would be 'brought back' (by Him) then the 'sacrifice' was theatre.
agn0stic_and_atheist : *knew
gypsymoon_32 : stars dont even exist yet god made them ??? lol
johntheantibaptist : tony all it takes is the right event to set on fire and it will be a star. jupiter that is.
Theophrenie : « 2004, you haven't answered the question.
deahca2 : If you believe that G is the supreme being and perfect, then there was NO NEED for the human sacrifice of Jesus.
ram0ss : agnostic, that is 100% correct in my view..
gypsymoon_32 : getting ims brv
nate_w2003 : SO YOU ARE SAYING YOU BELIEVE IN THE TINKERBELL
gypsymoon_32 : brb'
curious_for_2004 : THE WORD OF GOD IS SOMETHING YOU KNOW
agn0stic_and_atheist : deahca2 - good point.
full_flavor_menthol : None of these predictions are specific and as such contitute no evidence.
deahca2 : and what is the word of G< curious?
scotsmanmatt : agn0stic_and_atheist: premise one is fallacious since what Christian theology is is not determined by what layperson Christians think but by what Christian theologians think..
LOG DATA Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:29:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deahca2 : oops, <
curious_for_2004 : JUST TO READ IT IS SOME POWERFUL THINGSD
Theophrenie : « I am saying that everything is as much caused by Tinkerbell as any other invented fairytale.
scotsmanmatt : curious_for_2004: it's rude to use all caps in chat
tormented_soul333 : agnostic: regardless if he knew he was going to be resurrected or not...the fact is he still had to be persecuted hung on a cross...undergo pain etc.... now why would he do that if it was all theatrics.... :hey im going to let nails be hammered into my flesh...cuz this is all fun n games" duhhhhhhh
hunter_the_crazychick : wanders off to have a look at her friend's betta.....
nate_w2003 : NOPE, GOD HAS A BETTER CASE FOR BEING REAL THEN THE TINKERBELL
yokozuma_us :
curious_for_2004 : LOOK I TRYED TO SHOW YOU
pimp_yeahbaby24 :
deahca2 : curious, I've read the Christian scriptures, I just don't buy it. The holes in the story are SO big, you can drive a convoy through them
full_flavor_menthol : Because in the great scheme of things there are religions out there that make a whole hell of a lot more sense than Christianity.
LOG DATA Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:30:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
golconda2.rm : curious, what you call "the word of god" is in fact nothing more than a compilation of contradictions, falsehoods, and other irrationalities. And I HAVE READ your bible, it helped make me an atheist!
agn0stic_and_atheist : scotsmanmatt - you tried this last time, it's the "what other Christians believe is wrong, what I and the 'theologians' believe is correct" argument.
deadman_932 : okay, matt, i copied all that
pimp_yeahbaby24 : THE PIMP IS BACK
Theophrenie : « 2004, I just don't see how you can swallow the whole whale without chewing on it.
deadman_932 : now we'll ask dust when she gets in
deadman_932 : and we'll see who the oliar is, matt
deadman_932 : liar(
deadman_932 : hehehe
scotsmanmatt : agn0stic_and_atheist: the last time you admitted you were Biblically ignorant and not versed in Christian theology...so what do I need to prove
curious_for_2004 : EVERY MAN IN THIS ENTIRE WORLD WILL HAVE HEARD ABOUT JESUS CHRIST WHETHER YOU TAKE IT IN OR NOT THATS ON YOU
nate_w2003 : ALL I AM GONNA SAY IS THAT IF GOD ISN'T REAL, THEN MILLIONS OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN FOOLED, AND I SERIOUSLY DOUBT IT
golconda2.rm : curious you HAVE shown me, shown me just how irrational xianity is
curious_for_2004 : BUT MY BLOOD WILL NOT BE ON YOUR HANDS
scotsmanmatt : deadman: you're a liar..period..and an asshole to boot
curious_for_2004 : I DID MY JOB AND THATS ALL I CAN DO
golconda2.rm : curious, so now you go t the thinly vieled threats?
LOG DATA Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:31:11 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deahca2 : <
pimp_yeahbaby24 : NATE WHAT UP PLAYA YOU THUGGIN AND BUGGIN
hunter_the_crazychick : Female Bettas are pretty....
deadman_932 : really, matt? cite on lie i've told?
deadman_932 : ONE?
nate_w2003 : I AM DAWG
ram0ss : matt, you just proved you are logicall and morally defient
deahca2 : true, gypsy
deadman_932 : one?
gypsymoon_32 : :D
almighty_sword_of_truth :
almighty_sword_of_truth :
deadman_932 : just ONE?
full_flavor_menthol : And I say even if there is a God it is a 1/100,000 chance that you will ever pick the right religion,
Theophrenie : « 2004, and what about the already dead that haven't heard?
almighty_sword_of_truth :
nate_w2003 : BUT DAWG, I GOTTA GO GET READY TO LEAVE IN A FEW
curious_for_2004 : WHEN MY LORD AND SAVIOUR SPLITS THOSE CLOUDS AND YOU AIN'T READY ALL I CAN SAY IS FAREWELL
deahca2 : Just another guy in our religion Tony
happy_atheist2001 : nate, there are billions of people who don't believe your god is real, by your logic those billions of people have been fooled if your god DOES exist
deahca2 : No biggee
LOG DATA Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:31:54 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick :
full_flavor_menthol : Don't start with the hell threats.
curious_for_2004 : GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU AND I HOPE YOU CAN UNDERSTAND
tormented_soul333 : oh wait thats right...God injected Jesus with novocaine right before he was hung up...yeah..thats it!
deadman_932 : you just SHOWED it, matt
golconda2.rm : curious, so you AGAIN fall back to THREATS when you cannot back up your position with rational arguments
nate_w2003 : LATER ALL
gypsymoon_32 : lol torm
curious_for_2004 : THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND GOOD DAY
deadman_932 : you claim that i TRIED to "cyber" dusty
deahca2 : I think that Jesus was put to death by the Romans for that scene and destruction of property by the synogogue
hunter_the_crazychick : Shit. Matt showed something and I missed it?
curious_for_2004 :
deadman_932 : and you lied flat out and i can show that
nate_w2003 :
golconda2.rm : curious save your blessings, nothing FAILS like prayer
Theophrenie : « 2004, you aren't immortal, no god will ever jump down out of the sky to save anyone, it's all mythology, even your fantasy that we will be sorry.
imback135790 : if GOD anit real then i`m a monkeys uncle
religionfree_1 : and fails and fails and fails
scotsmanmatt : agn0stic_and_atheist: I doubt you've met many informed Christians and since you're Biblically ignoranct and have read too many web pages that make the same claim I'm not surprised to see you parroting the same BS.
imback135790 : lol\
agn0stic_and_atheist : imback135790 - want a banana?
wcw042843 :
deahca2 : The romans were HARSH and FIRM disciplinarians with the countries and peoople that they conquered
hunter_the_crazychick : thumps yahoo hard, and wonders who can see her.
LOG DATA Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:33:04 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
tormented_soul333 : hahahahaha
scotsmanmatt : deadman: of course..I do..you told me you did and she refused you
gypsymoon_32 : lol agn
johntheantibaptist :
christian_hillbilly_ky : laughs at ram0ss
tormented_soul333 : throws a banana at DSGB:D
deadman_932 : oh, yeah, matt tried to get laid last night , i bet , and got slapped around
cocktard : is back
cocktard : Ya know, one thing that pisses me off, is when someone uses a font that is so small that you can barely see it.
deadman_932 : you're a liar matt
damien_the_demon_kitty :
deadman_932 : when did i say that?
scotsmanmatt : deadman: prove it
hunter_the_crazychick : Damien.
deadman_932 : hahaha
scotsmanmatt : deadman: in a pm to me
damien_the_demon_kitty : Hunter.
deadman_932 : ohhhhhh, matt
a_mind_behind_a_name :
Theophrenie : « why do they debate if they are going to ignore all rebuttal, not even consider what is being said, too afraid to enttertain an opposing thought?
deadman_932 : you've really gone over the edge
damien_the_demon_kitty : Hey, the fraud's back!
deadman_932 : you say i PM'D you???
tormented_soul333 : you 2 are about as mature as a buncha 3 yr olds...and i know cuz i work with em
scotsmanmatt : deadman goes into denial mode
pimp_yeahbaby24 :
LOG DATA Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:34:04 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : damien: he's sunk to new lows today....
christian_hillbilly_ky : gives tony_met2002 a big hug
cocktard : It's like driving on the freeway, but instead of speeding, you're going too fkn slow. It's against the law to drive too slow, ya know.
scotsmanmatt : deadman: no..I didn't say you pm'd me
golconda2.rm : theo, they are not here to debate, merely to bleat like the sheep that they are...
deahca2 : There was a candidate for the messiah after Jesus that fulfilled even more prophesies than Jesus did
christian_hillbilly_ky : Noah DID take dino's on the ark
damien_the_demon_kitty : Hunter, what'd he do this time?
imback135790 : the dead sea scrolls a secular book in history talks about the life death and resurection of jeusj
deadman_932 : my, my , scots, if i pm'd you , what did i say, and where's the t4ranscript?
vaunn3 : decha...you are right...though jesus was probably an agitator ...jesus was put to death by the Romans for the crime of sedition....jesus was of course put to death for political reassons
deadman_932 : what date?
full_flavor_menthol : theo>exactly. Lets use their rational. Why would they be here if they didn't doubt their faith.
cocktard : Oh geezus...
religionfree_1 : no it does not
blind_lotus :
lori_lynn_62 :
full_flavor_menthol : Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-ZUZ!
Theophrenie : « Thats cult phenomean, enthralled, unable to think critically of the box they are sealed in.
deadman_932 : scotsmanmatt: deadman: in a pm to me
deadman_932 : you said TO YOU
religionfree_1 : it speaks of a 'teacher of righteousness' but never mentions ANY nt character by name..
hunter_the_crazychick : Damien: if you're talking about scots, he's resorted to actually swearing a lot, and nattering on about something regarding deadman being a pervert. THe Zevnak argument.
LOG DATA Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:35:04 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
ram0ss :
darkwolf19742003 :
deadman_932 : this is amazing, hunter
full_flavor_menthol : I don't miss my foreskin.
Theophrenie : « phenomena^
lori_lynn_62 :
deahca2 : I don't even think that, vaunn. The Christian scriptures described the scene by the synogogue, was an EXCELLENT reason for the Romans to execute Jesus. and they did
scotsmanmatt : deadman: yes..but that doesn't equate to, 'Deadman pm'd me' for it was part of a conversation re: dusty I initiated with you
ram0ss :
damien_the_demon_kitty : Hunter, so, has he backed up his claim that some atheists use 'false christian' instead of an argument?
hunter_the_crazychick : dead: it's certainly enough to hold my attention for five minutes.
deadman_932 : matt is actually claiming I PM'd HIM , saying DUSTY refused CYBER with me???!!??
full_flavor_menthol : But it was removed when I was like 2 days old.
scotsmanmatt : and you of course spilled the beans but now are denying it
tormented_soul333 :
deadman_932 : when was this, matt?
scotsmanmatt : cause you're a lying fuck
golconda2.rm : xianhillbilly, LOL. There is EVIDENCE for dinos, but NONE for the Noah myth
hunter_the_crazychick : damien: no.
scotsmanmatt : deadman: about three weeks ago
imback135790 : but he got up again
damien_the_demon_kitty : Figures.
Theophrenie : « Obviuosly they do doubt their faith, and have unbelief.
deadman_932 : you have to resort to out and out LIES, huh, matt?
vaunn3 : DGSB...there isn't even any real proof jesus was a historical person..scholars can find no hard evidence...
tormented_soul333 : im gonna start iggying
LOG DATA Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:36:04 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : dead: it had to happen sooner or later.
imback135790 : there is evedecnce
deahca2 : Even his own mothere didn't recognize him. LOL
tormented_soul333 : this is so retarded
agn0stic_and_atheist : scotsmanmatt - you are, perhaps inadvertently, conceding, that there are plenty of 'Christians' out there who don't actually know what the sacrifice of Jesus really is, which is interesting. I'd also like to know why the Bible seems to lead people to believe that Jesus's death is the sacrifice - God couldn't have made a less ambiguous book for His followers?
blind_lotus : good point vaunn
deadman_932 : really, and you say you don't have the transcript, matt???
deadman_932 : i bet you DON'T
cocktard : Scots, why don't you speak up?? Can't read your font. What is it, like, minus 2?
scotsmanmatt : deadman: well, I'm sure your 'atheist' friends will believe you but we both know the truth of the matter
vaunn3 : no...friad not..that's what i thought to...
religionfree_1 : font screen hogs.. *click*
deadman_932 : ahh, we DO?
damien_the_demon_kitty : Dead, Scotsmanfraud doesn't 'resort' to lies, he starts at lies, and goes downhill from there.
deadman_932 : i know you've finally gone over the edge, matt
imback135790 : the bible is the most historiacly accurate book in the world
deahca2 : Want a funny story? A christian once told me that the reason that no one recognized Jesus was that he shaved his beard, combed his hair a different way and limped. HONESTLY
scotsmanmatt : agn0stic_and_atheist: it's axiomatic that most Christians are as biblically uninformed as most atheists
LOG DATA Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:37:04 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deadman_932 : matt, you're getting more and more mentally ill by being in here and trying to defend the indefensible
tormented_soul333 : catholics for sure
damien_the_demon_kitty : Deahca, that is funny.
gypsymoon_32 : lol dea
Theophrenie : « Atheists are better informed than most of the fundies
gypsymoon_32 : thats funny
blind_lotus : were's your proof, dsgb
scotsmanmatt : agn0stic_and_atheist: the Bible doesn't lead to that conclusion..at least not to anyone who's actually read the text beyond a citation on a bias web site
imback135790 : the bible is the most historiacly accurate book in the world
deahca2 : Two days pass, and his mother and his closest friends ( including his girlfriend) DIDN'T recognize him. How believeable is that?
damien_the_demon_kitty : So, um, has anyone ever seen scotsmanfraud 'rationally' defend anything?
tormented_soul333 : dsgb: please lower your font :|
deadman_932 : your current claim that i PM'd you saying i TRIED to CYBER dusty is hilarious
gypsymoon_32 : not very hea
vaunn3 : you have to understand christains don't know it was a trial..only later was it transformed to something spritual
gypsymoon_32 : dea
gypsymoon_32 : ooop
scotsmanmatt : deadman: well, I can't prove what you said hence will leave it there on record
gypsymoon_32 : s
gypsymoon_32 : lol
blind_lotus : well, somebodys a free thinker, huh?
LOG DATA Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:38:04 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
agn0stic_and_atheist : scotsmanmatt - lol, so which is worse in your view, an atheist or a Christian who doesn't undertand Christianity?
deahca2 : NNow, there comes the problem of Jesus coming OUT of the tomb and making his way to where his friends were. How was THAT accomplished with no one noticing?
deadman_932 : why on EARTH would i even SAY that to YOU, even if it WERE true, matt?
wcw042843 : He did not have a girlfriend
scotsmanmatt : agn0stic_and_atheist: none are worse ..the two are equal
Theophrenie : « They are mindless parrots, reiterating everything they are taught without questioning anything.
vaunn3 : the early chruch debated that for a long time...
deadman_932 : no, matt, you can't prove it, so you just sit there all fucked up in the head
deahca2 : the ex hooker was the girlfirend of Jesus, wcw
hunter_the_crazychick : 'I can't prove what you said hence will leave it there on record' makes no sense whatsoever. If you can't prove what's been said, it gets /stricken/ from the record.
deadman_932 : you're now officially mental, matt
deadman_932 : i like it
full_flavor_menthol : For example, "The Bible is the most historically accurate book" That is one old arguement and is clearly false.
tormented_soul333 : how is one a christian if he/she cant even understand what it is theyre follow
agn0stic_and_atheist : scotsmanmatt - good answer (for a change).
tormented_soul333 : ing?
religionfree_1 : mary magdelene.. nice little tag along for those 'nights' off in prayer alone hehe
blind_lotus :
almighty_sword_of_truth :
ram0ss :
ram0ss :
LOG DATA Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:39:04 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
damien_the_demon_kitty : Agno, actually it's a rather poor answer.
Theophrenie : « Hahaha, the Bible is as Historically Accurate as Dune.
deahca2 : <
almighty_sword_of_truth :
okaythisnamewilldo :
tormented_soul333 : coffee
agn0stic_and_atheist : damien - I know, but I'm generous like that.
full_flavor_menthol : Theo>Atleast Dune has continuity. LOL
okaythisnamewilldo : hey a n a
okaythisnamewilldo : I think you should be called ana
Theophrenie : « yep
damien_the_demon_kitty : A christian's whole theology rests upon that supposed 'holy book', an atheist's doesn't, so a christian who's ignorant of the bible is definately worse off than an atheist who is.
golconda2.rm : full, and no blatant contradcitions
tormented_soul333 : would i be a biologist if i didnt understand what biology was about?
full_flavor_menthol : gol>yep
okaythisnamewilldo : Whoaa
LOG DATA Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:40:04 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deahca2 : OH yeah, here's the OTHER biggee. Romans LOVED gods, all kinds of them INCLUDING human gods. IF Jesus HAD come back from the dead, the Romans would have been in seventh heaven. He would be LAUDED as a NEW GOD and sent to Rome to the Emperor IMMEDIATELY.
deadman_932 : this is great, hunter...save it for posting
okaythisnamewilldo : a room filled with satanic whorshippers
wcw042843 : if God is not real why are you atheist talking aboud Him
deahca2 : <<
full_flavor_menthol : Would a lawyer be an expert on Brain Surgery?
hunter_the_crazychick : dead: alright. Did I miss anything while I was resetting the line?
deadman_932 : we can point to the exact moment matt went completely delusional
Theophrenie : « Is scots one of these theists that thinks the holy spook downloads him insights into the real meaning of the spooks scriptures?
ram0ss : where where?? where is the satantic worshipers??
deadman_932 : naw
hunter_the_crazychick : Alright.
deadman_932 : i just copied it myself
scotsmanmatt : A Christian's salvation is not dependant upon having perfect or even right knowledge of Christian theology hence damien_the_demon_kitty talking through a large hole in his ass again [probably caused by so many atheist buddies shafting it]
hunter_the_crazychick : Oh, and I started a new file. Spiffy.
religionfree_1 : Talking about a book and myths is 'not' talking about god[s]/ sheesh lol
damien_the_demon_kitty : Theo, no, scots is just a lying troll.
hunter_the_crazychick : It'll be nice and easy to find.
okaythisnamewilldo :
deadman_932 : hehehe
LOG DATA Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:41:04 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
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