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Posted by Gremlin [12.211.200.127 - 12-211-200-127.client.attbi.com] on 22 June 2003 at 06.07.35 ZuluTime:
Apparently, there's some question of whether known fraud ken_in_ny is a fraud. So here's the trascript including his fraudulent claim that polygraphs were used to prove that everyone believed in his deity:
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 16:42:57 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1 i. Verse 27 seems so severe - we might even think that Jesus is compelling us to a life or death decision. And indeed He is. I killfiled him at that point. If anyone has the rest of his bullshit, feel free to post it.... --Gremlin
taniwha_is_waiting : Yep. Came to bring strife, not peace.
taniwha_is_waiting : That's Jesus. Terror and hate.
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: what version?
gremlin_net : But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. --Jesus Christ, convicted terrorist [Luke 19.27]
columbo35462000 : Can atheists pass a polygraph test regarding their atheism? The LA Times reported on June 28,1986 that 25,000 people were given a polygraph test and when they answered no to the question "Do you believe in God?" they failed the polygraph on this question. The exact same data was achieved in another case.
taniwha_is_waiting : We're not angry - we're just not kowtowing to religious crap like you do.
squishy105 : yes it is
taniwha_is_waiting : ;-)
kenboyred : <----never use drugs
gremlin_net : Hunter: 6.5 is the latest, I think. Although it's got enough included plugins that it takes five minutes to load now.
taniwha_is_waiting : columbu: I have.
columbo35462000 : taniwha: see my post above
atheist_dictator : sugar is a drug
bobwar69 : good for you ken now
taniwha_is_waiting : I've passed that test, actually. ;-)
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 16:43:57 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
anaisthesia : I said that dictator, you don't agree?
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: as all adobe things are....
taniwha_is_waiting : see my post above, columbo. *kiss kiss*
anaisthesia : food IS a drug!
sara2smile2 : legal and illegal would be the difference
anaisthesia : You fatties :))
anaisthesia :
gremlin_net : squishy105: so. Are you a TrueChristian[tm] terrorist who would kill atheists for Jesus, or just a fraud?
squishy105 : \so what do yall believe in
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 16:44:57 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : anaisthesia: me too. I'm staying in bed and eating chips.
deirdreofsorrows1 : dust, stomach pump, prompto!
anaisthesia : lol
vcseattle : lol
gremlin_net : squishy105: I don't believe in anything. Answer the question.
anaisthesia : pukes up dinner
vcseattle : ew
preparation_h_medicated_asswipe : i believe port charles has gotten really stupid
deirdreofsorrows1 : gives dust laxatives
taniwha_is_waiting : Hey Columbo, you got any more stupid stupid questions?
squishy105 : what are u talkin about
dawn_girlforyou : sup guys
gremlin_net : squishy105: look up.
babapoupou : rolly polly fish heads
vcseattle : ana, what are ya talkin' about?
squishy105 : i dont killl anyone
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 16:45:57 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
vcseattle : What wouldn't someone do?
Munkey_Nihilist : Whoa I'm in h ere.
columbo35462000 : i am sending this data to big atheists organzations as a challenge to see if any atheist can pass the polygraph on this question. The most vocal atheists in recent history Jean Paul Satyre has admitted he sometimes feels an awarenes of God.
anaisthesia : VC seattle : quit some bad habit
vcseattle : gotcha
hunter_the_crazychick : yawns.
hunter_the_crazychick : Hi munk.
gremlin_net : squishy105: a TrueChristian[tm] would kill atheists for refusing to let Jesus reign over them; that's terrorism. A false christian claiming to be a christian would be a fraud. Which are you?
Munkey_Nihilist : slaps hunter with a Subway Sandwich.
taniwha_is_waiting : Indeed gremlin.
squishy105 : im a true christian....tc dont kill anyone
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 16:46:57 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
taniwha_is_waiting : Columbo, well I've passed a polygraph which asked that question.
deirdreofsorrows1 : munkkk
squishy105 : im afraid u know nothing of christians
gremlin_net : squishy105: the question is simple. Are you A) a terrorist, B) a fraud, or C) not claiming to be a christian at all?
taniwha_is_waiting : Columbo: So if you want to play games, try me
kenboyred : lol
gremlin_net : squishy105: a TrueChristian[tm] slays atheists before Jesus. The bible says so.
taniwha_is_waiting : Does he have goat feet?
kenboyred : :p
hunter_the_crazychick : yawns.
deirdreofsorrows1 : fine munk, dont say hi
apocalyptic_overthrow_xad : taniwha when did you take a polygraph test for your atheism?
taniwha_is_waiting : gremlin, he needs the scripture line
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 16:47:57 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
squishy105 : really which verse
gremlin_net : taniwha_is_waiting: again?
gremlin_net : But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. --Jesus Christ, convicted terrorist [Luke 19.27]
taniwha_is_waiting : apoc: It was one of several questions in a psychological experiment in college. ;-)
dawn_girlforyou : who wants to go watch Brown Sugar?
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: what the hell were you doing with the Freddy vs Jason trailer screenshots last night?
taniwha_is_waiting : See, squishy, Jesus says you gotta kill.
gremlin_net : Hunter: trying to reverse engineer the trailer.
gremlin_net : squishy105: learn to read. But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. --Jesus Christ, convicted terrorist [Luke 19.27]
dj_flashback_80s : i heard that Matrix sucks
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: what format did you get it in? I think I've got avi and mpg back here.
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 16:48:57 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : dj: the cg did.
bobwar69 : thats why it worked
Munkey_Nihilist : Dee, I did say hi damn you!
kenboyred : Dusty, I love your personality
gremlin_net : squishy105: if you're a TrueChristian[tm] then you're a terrorist. You don't get to vote on that. If you're not a terrorist, then you're a fraud. Pick one.
dj_flashback_80s : hunter what is the cg?
deirdreofsorrows1 : I didnt see it!
deirdreofsorrows1 : :P
gremlin_net : Hunter: QuickTime.
Munkey_Nihilist : reposts.
columbo35462000 : apoc: do not believe taniwha. I caught him in a lie once unless he was just joking
taniwha_is_waiting : Hey Columbo, you seem quiet - is it because you've run out of crap?
deirdreofsorrows1 : apologizes
kenboyred : gremlin, I like you, but why do you feel the need to be such a dick ?
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: ew. I'll get you a better copy.
gremlin_net : kenboyred: retaliation with equal force?
Munkey_Nihilist : >:)
hunter_the_crazychick : looks at dj.
Munkey_Nihilist : I only accept fellatio as an apology.
kenboyred : lol grem......fair enough
hunter_the_crazychick : You don't know what CG is?
anaisthesia : Where's alec?
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 16:49:57 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
anaisthesia : Someone tell me if alec comes on
gremlin_net : kenboyred: I don't see how expecting a christian to admit to either terrorism or fraud is any worse than being a terrorist or a fraud.
squishy105 : thats so wronghang on let me get my bible
gremlin_net : squishy105: okay....
taniwha_is_waiting : Why are you trying to reverse engineer a movie trailer, grem?
squishy105 : it doesnt say that
taniwha_is_waiting : 'fraid it does squishy
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 16:50:57 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : squishy105: wanna bet?
dawn_girlforyou : good bye
squishy105 : it doesnt say he is a terrorist
squishy105 : u took that wrongf
radardog : Grem- The quote you just gave isn't from Jesus specifically, Jesus was telling a parable (The Parable of the Ten Minas) wherein the king in the parable was saying that.
gremlin_net : Watch squishy105 hunt down a version which doesn't have Luke19.27 quoting Jesus telling his people to slay those who won't be reigned over. Or, more likely, claiming that it just doesn't day that and refusing to tell us what it says instead....
bobwar69 : best pic up line ever used on me-------"I dont want a relationship,I just want to take you home and fuck your brains out"
gremlin_net : squishy105: I took it wrong? Okay. Let's see which part I got wrong....
deirdreofsorrows1 : bob, lol
gremlin_net : But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. --Jesus Christ, convicted terrorist [Luke 19.27]
bobwar69 : I dropped everything and went
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 16:51:57 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gremlin_net : squishy105: define 'reign over' for us.
taniwha_is_waiting : squishy, a terrorist is one who attempts to change the rule of a nation by violence.
taniwha_is_waiting : If Jesus wants to kill all who refuse to accept his "reign over" (i.e. rule and control) us, then he's a terrorist.
Munkey_Nihilist : 18:53:05 (nonfriend) my_profile_has_nude_pix_jj28h1: :x
Munkey_Nihilist : somone loves me.
taniwha_is_waiting : He's demanding violence against those who refuse to let him rule the world.
radardog : loves munk.
taniwha_is_waiting : That's pretty much what Osama Bin Laden does.
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 16:52:57 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
atheist_dictator : Buffy's friend on the show is a corpse
gremlin_net : squishy105: would you suppose that an atheist might not allow your myth to reign over him?
hunter_the_crazychick : The CEV says "kill them while I watch". Sick.
atheist_dictator : in real life
taniwha_is_waiting : And Jesus kinda looked like Bin Laden I bet, brownish skin, big nose...
squishy105 : will is that the only quote u can make about the bible
squishy105 : that says that
gremlin_net : squishy105: think fast; answer soon.
radardog : taniwha_is_waiting- It wasn't Jesus demanding it. Jesus was telling a story where a character demanded it in the story.
taniwha_is_waiting : squishy: What's wrong with that one? It tells you Jesus wants murder.
vcseattle : I can't believe what I'm hearing in this room. Human relationships reduced to trash.
squishy105 : jesus is a beauitful man
hunter_the_crazychick : The only bible that doesn't read that way is The Message, where it says As for these enemies of mine who petitioned against my rule, clear them out of here. I don't want to see their faces around here again.'"
gremlin_net : squishy105: you admit that the quote is in the bible. That's all I ever said about it.
taniwha_is_waiting : radardog: That's the best lie I've heard all day.
vcseattle : What is the purpose of living a life like that?
vcseattle : Oh ick
vcseattle : Alrighty, bye y'all
radardog : taniwha_is_waiting- The story is called the The Parable of the Ten Minas. Look it up.
taniwha_is_waiting : radardog: Nah.
Munkey_Nihilist : makes a doodie.
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 16:53:57 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deirdreofsorrows1 : gives munk a diaper
taniwha_is_waiting : radardog: Doesn't make a whit of difference to me what the fairy tale says. The history of the religion is the same.
Munkey_Nihilist : makes dee change him.
squishy105 : no its the story of the ten servants
gremlin_net : squishy105: so. Your myth decrees that you take these enemies who don't let you myth reign over them, and then slay them before your myth. Do we have to define 'slay' as well, or can you work that word out for yourself?
hunter_the_crazychick : squishy105: actually, the bible is full of violence. Haven't you read it yourself, or have you got the squishy fuzzy version?
dj_flashback_80s : is it anti semetic if you say that you dislike jewish business mannerism?
squishy105 : get it right\
deirdreofsorrows1 : hires someone
taniwha_is_waiting : Well, gremlin, you *did* also say that Jesus demands atheists' murders.
radardog : taniwha_is_waiting- I'm not commenting on religion. Just the claim that Jesus said that specifically, in regards to himself.
gremlin_net : taniwha_is_waiting: which is the case.
squishy105 : maybe i need it defined
taniwha_is_waiting : radardog: Got that from Grem.
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 16:54:57 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
radardog : taniwha_is_waiting- I pointed it out to Grem also. I don't know if he got my post, however.
taniwha_is_waiting : assumed Gremlin was going with saying it was Jesus in that part.
taniwha_is_waiting : And I still believe him more than you. ;-)
gremlin_net : squishy105: in the vernacular, your myth told you to take the people who don't believe in it [atheists] and kill them for it. That would be terrorism.
radardog : Grem- Can you see my posts?
gremlin_net : taniwha_is_waiting: it was.
gremlin_net : radardog: yeah.
Munkey_Nihilist : I cant see radar, maybe its because he's gay.
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 16:55:57 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gremlin_net : radardog: it was very much in regards to himself. It was a parable meant to define his position.
Munkey_Nihilist : .
radardog : Grem- Where exactly do you get that from?
taniwha_is_waiting : Actually, radardog, I just read the section
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 16:56:57 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
Munkey_Nihilist : teabags dee.
squishy105 : actually jesus want kill them
squishy105 : they kill them selves
Munkey_Nihilist : teabags her again.
banana_annie : checks room movement
taniwha_is_waiting : and it appears quite clearly that Jesus finishes the talk about the servant at 19:23
squishy105 : they will go to HELL for it
taniwha_is_waiting : at 19:24 he talks to the crowd and the disciples.
taniwha_is_waiting : in Luke 19:25 they talk to him,
banana_annie : mena suvari
squishy105 : its there own faults for not believing
taniwha_is_waiting : then JESUS HIMSELF talks about the slaying then.
Munkey_Nihilist : teabags annie.
banana_annie : blinks
taniwha_is_waiting : It's quite clearly Jesus, radardog. No longer talking about the parable.
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 16:57:57 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gremlin_net : radardog: taniwha_is_waiting's got it.
michaelangeloglossolalia : is back
michaelangeloglossolalia : The final report on a demonstration of a technology for turning organic wastes into fuel, energy and other products calls the project a success and concludes there are no major issues standing in the way of the technology being commercialized on a larger scale.
gremlin_net : squishy105: so you're a TrueChristian[tm]?
radardog : taniwha_is_waiting- Uhm, it's the king still talking to the servant in that quote.
gumptiondude : greetings my dear brothers and sisters
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 16:58:57 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
anaisthesia : lol
anaisthesia : gump
taniwha_is_waiting : Nope, it's Jesus.
deirdreofsorrows1 : gump
deirdreofsorrows1 : gump, you didn't make a typo
gremlin_net : squishy105: and I can't go to hell. I haven't got a soul.
hungryfingers : thora birch
banana_annie : what do y'all think about reese witherspoon?
taniwha_is_waiting : It's quite clearly Jesus.
sara2smile2 : squishy, never let the condemning mob wrongly define or translate the Word for you. Just ignore that.
squishy105 : see thats a terrible thing to say
gremlin_net : banana_annie: I try not to.
squishy105 : so if u believe in nothing
banana_annie : haha gremlin
merkinball_blues : i need some weed.
merkinball_blues : i need a weed man.
squishy105 : how did we get hee
deirdreofsorrows1 : got to go
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 16:59:57 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
merkinball_blues : i am so totally out of luck.
gremlin_net : squishy105: what's a terrible thing to say? That I'd go to hell if I had a soul?
taniwha_is_waiting : sara: So Christians should define the bible as they see fit and use it to lord over and kill us all, huh?
Munkey_Nihilist : I'd do reese Witherspoon.
bobwar69 : what are you doing taniwah?bye bye
Munkey_Nihilist : By Dee:(
Munkey_Nihilist : e*
taniwha_is_waiting : bobwar
deirdreofsorrows1 : bye munk:P
radardog : taniwha_is_waiting- Of course Jesus was telling the story. But in 19:27, he was saying the line of the king in the story. He didn't stop the story until 19:28.
taniwha_is_waiting : Radardog, it's quite clearly Jesus speaking himself.
gremlin_net : squishy105: I don't know how you got here. I got here by loguing into chat.yahoo.sux.
sara2smile2 : taniwha, would be preferable to your strange translations
taniwha_is_waiting : He stops the story at 19:24/
bobwar69 : do not post long bible verses or be iggied
gumptiondude : repty tempts her
taniwha_is_waiting : sara2smile: Excuse me, bitchcake, I'm using the KJV.
taniwha_is_waiting : What's your fucking problem.
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:00:57 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
taniwha_is_waiting : On a fucking self righteous pedastal of arrogance like all christians?
taniwha_is_waiting : Jesus H Fuck
taniwha_is_waiting : you all think the suns shines outta your fucking know it all asses
hunter_the_crazychick : It looks like it could very well be interpreted either way, but still....
squishy105 : ill pray for u
radardog : taniwha_is_waiting- If that's true, the next part doesn't make sense: (And they said unto him, Lord, he hath ten pounds.) The servant had 10 pounds. lol
sara2smile2 : taniwha, not a thing...of course I've stopped reading your posts
taniwha_is_waiting : you all think you fucking know exactly what the bible means all the time,
michaelangeloglossolalia : nobody notices the christians who AREN'T on the soapbox
gremlin_net : squishy105: I'll hope you die in a fire.
taniwha_is_waiting : you all think you're never fucking wrong.
gremlin_net : Tard....
taniwha_is_waiting : Sara: You are just another theist turd.
taniwha_is_waiting : iggy
taniwha_is_waiting : Cuntflap.
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:01:52 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
LOG OPEN Thu, 15 May 2003 17:01:53 gremlin_net, limb0
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:01:58 gremlin_net, limb0
merkinball_blues : i am from the future. beep beep beep.
radardog : 19:26 (still talking to the servants: For I say unto you, That unto every one which hath shall be given; and from him that hath not, even that he hath shall be taken away from him.)
taniwha_is_waiting : radardog: Funny, it doesn't say "
taniwha_is_waiting : you just put that there.
merkinball_blues : you have a big scabby penis?
retardylinin2 : lmao
taniwha_is_waiting : Infact, he's talking to the disciples.
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:02:58 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
banana_annie : hello chain.....:) wback ecarta
taniwha_is_waiting : You know how it's obvious?
taniwha_is_waiting : They said "Lord"
taniwha_is_waiting : to him.
ecarta_2000 : Thanks
the_chainsawpsycho : Hello, Annie
taniwha_is_waiting : If they were talking to a king they wouldn't capitalize "Lord" - that's primarily just for Jesus.
gremlin_net : Another telemarketer just left a message....
radardog : taniwha_is_waiting- I didn't use quotes for a reason. No. 19:24: And he said unto them that stood by, Take from him the pound, and give it to him that hath ten pounds. To those that stood by. About the pounds. Those are the servants in the story.
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:03:58 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
dj_flashback_80s : did anyone watch star trek last night?
gremlin_net : Star Trek is still on the air?
dj_flashback_80s : the new ones
banana_annie : which start trek?
retardylinin2 : lmao
banana_annie : star, even
banana_annie : ahhh
banana_annie : I only watch the original ones
ecarta_2000 : <--needs a cam
dj_flashback_80s : you missed a good one last night
hunter_the_crazychick : Even if it is the last line of the story, it's a fucking parable. That's where the lesson is....
anaisthesia : i know bob
gremlin_net : Start Trek: the Search for the Windoze Key.
merkinball_blues : i have a cam
anaisthesia : That's why it's funny they are looking *now*
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:04:58 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
merkinball_blues : but i am not turning it on
banana_annie : lol gremlin
ecarta_2000 : hi lady
taniwha_is_waiting : Allow me to quote from David Guzik, his study guide written for the book of Luke.
dj_flashback_80s : gremlin did you watch the new star trek last night?
taniwha_is_waiting : Care to hear it?
radardog : hunter- Wouldn't much matter; It just disputes the claim that Jesus was talking in regards to himself.
taniwha_is_waiting : c. The application is clear: do you want Jesus to reign over you? He will, one way or another. And if you are already His servant, are you doing the business He told you to do?
gremlin_net : dj_flashback_80s: nope.
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: someone on ICQ under the name 'seasick' just messaged me looking for you....
ecarta_2000 : Taniwah...whatever
taniwha_is_waiting : hey lady bewitched: You're a subhuman protonazi scum.
gremlin_net : Hunter: ah. Okay.
dj_flashback_80s : this hot ass fulcan chick was in heat
babapoupou : if you can't stand judging people become a priest
ecarta_2000 : For my Dog and my country
taniwha_is_waiting : Hrm, I'm white actually, Jesus Freak.
taniwha_is_waiting : ;-)
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:05:58 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
taniwha_is_waiting : Sorry to break it to ya.
taniwha_is_waiting : Stupid cracker inbred whore.
anaisthesia : you're totally butt ugly
the_chainsawpsycho : "b-more ho" a girl that looks good from a block or more, but us ugly as hell close-up BOOGERBEAR, SKANK - Damn, She looked good from a block or more, but upclose she is tore up from the floor up.
hunter_the_crazychick : radar: he told the story. He said it, and he likely meant the lesson conveyed in it. Sounds like their problem to me. Open-to-interpretation it all you like.
anaisthesia : But not as old as ronald reagan
lil_miss_atheist : I will be back a little later and also I will be on early tomorrow, annie :P I have to go see a man about a car....horse...errr something...bbl :*
dj_flashback_80s : LOL
taniwha_is_waiting : :D
gremlin_net : Hunter: you know him. You just don't realise it yet.
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: he was the guy living with Logan, right?
gremlin_net : Hunter: yeah.
ecarta_2000 : I got 20 bucks on Taniwah
taniwha_is_waiting : so Gremlin, don't you love the white power racist threats from lady_bewitched? Isn't that so Christian?
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:06:58 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
knight_of_baawa : C[H]ain, annie
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: He's wondering about some sort of project?
gremlin_net : taniwha_is_waiting: she was gonged for terrorism a long time ago.
dj_flashback_80s : Logan are you guys talking about x men
dj_flashback_80s : 2
gremlin_net : Hunter: yeah. But I can't actually talk about it.
hunter_the_crazychick : dj: yeah. Logan. He was a former roommate of mine.
dj_flashback_80s : mindless boring, heart stoppng action
radardog : taniwha_is_waiting- I'll go with Hunter; You can argue it was a lesson that Jesus was teaching through a parable. But you can not claim that Jesus was saying the lines in regards to himself. Even in your source, it mentions 'application' of the parable.
hunter_the_crazychick : rolls her eyes.
taniwha_is_waiting : grem, shame Yahoo doesn't do more about the white power nazi chatters.
taniwha_is_waiting : but i'm sure the FBI would love to hear about her terrorism
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: I think he wants to talk to you.
anaisthesia : profane
knight_of_baawa : Yahoo should do nothing about white power nazi chatters
tray317 : annie :D
gremlin_net : taniwha_is_waiting: yes and no. First Amendment.
banana_annie : hello dusty
taniwha_is_waiting : radardog: I disagree.
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:07:58 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
the_chainsawpsycho : "back dat ass up" request for, or act of doggy style sex. REAR ENTRY - Saw dis fine azz freak at da swap meet yetaday, told her "yo bee-atch back dat ass up!"
taniwha_is_waiting : gremlin: Fire in a theater.
knight_of_baawa : dusty
taniwha_is_waiting : Oh, and gremlin: First amendment means nothing under Ashcroft.
taniwha_is_waiting : don't forget that.
gremlin_net : Hunter: probably. I don't have time right now. Tell him I'm still looking for the programme. He'll get it.
banana_annie : <<==white poor ass chatter
knight_of_baawa : Damn bitch, you stupid fly. Lemme pull up ta dat bumper and smack dat monkey
gremlin_net : taniwha_is_waiting: I'm in favour of the first amendment. Prior Restraint is bullshit.
dj_flashback_80s : we are not free anymore. its Leviathian time
the_chainsawpsycho : "Call me big daddy when ya back dat ass up."
taniwha_is_waiting : gremlin: I'm in favor of it too, but the law isn't.
sara2smile2 : chain? new ebonics dictionary?
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:08:58 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
bobwar69 : cause the only thing I ever got pierced was my left ear
the_chainsawpsycho : Sara: Yeah.
dj_flashback_80s : lol sara
gremlin_net : taniwha_is_waiting: the law is. The people aren't.
columbo35462000 : There are no atheist
gumptiondude : f u
anaisthesia : lol yeti
the_chainsawpsycho : tells columbo to back dat ass up
taniwha_is_waiting : columbo: Incorrect. I'm an atheist, as are others here. So there *are* atheists.
gremlin_net : columbo35462000: I'd believe you, but I'm a nullfidian.
anaisthesia : yuck @ bob's slutty cock
taniwha_is_waiting : Thanks anyway, tardlet.
banana_annie : bobwar's been going wild since his divorce
taniwha_is_waiting : Hey columbo, i got a few questions for ya, (peter falk impression)
banana_annie : P
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:09:58 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
sara2smile2 : dj, depends on who you ask
radardog : To say parables aren't sometimes made more severe to show a major point is a bit dishonest. Many times they are. Just like your source said. *rambles*
taniwha_is_waiting : I've never met a wiccan-turned-jesus-freak nazi white power racist before, it's hilarious
the_chainsawpsycho : I only talk in ebonics to turn Dust on.
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:10:58 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
taniwha_is_waiting : Well, see, Nigger would mean I'm african in descent.
the_chainsawpsycho : Lady: Back dat ass up, bag ho.
radardog : notes the NIV outlines where the parable starts and stops also. lol
taniwha_is_waiting : But since I'm white european, I can't be a nigger.
sara2smile2 : chain, that might work better in voice
taniwha_is_waiting : I can be a limey.
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: what's the weather like...?
the_chainsawpsycho : Columbo/ken: You are pathetic.
taniwha_is_waiting : and a kiltmonkey.
gremlin_net : radardog: I'm not contesting that it's a parable. The point is that the parable is describing the position.
gremlin_net : Hunter: um...sunny?
hunter_the_crazychick : columbo35462000: prove that polygraphs are infallible....
banana_annie : dusty.....you need to write a column
anaisthesia : profane...lol
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:11:58 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
the_chainsawpsycho : Sara: I should go on voice, just to spread some love from "da hood".
sara2smile2 : chain, be careful what you "spread" form da hood
banana_annie : haha.....the punch_my_ vagina monologues
taniwha_is_waiting : LOL
anaisthesia : lol profane!!
gremlin_net : radardog: not that I should care much whether it's a parable. If christians can take one verse out of context to support their points, then that's fair use.
hunter_the_crazychick : What, is 'nigger' bad?
sara2smile2 : from rather
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:12:58 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
taniwha_is_waiting : Everyone's a NIGGER today.
the_chainsawpsycho : This is one for Lady Rose: "beenie booty" unenjoyable sex (said by a male about a woman) LOOSE PUSSY - Damn jigga you hooked me up with some Beenie Booty Last Night
gremlin_net : taniwha_is_waiting: I'm not.
taniwha_is_waiting : Thanks to lady_bee-witched
taniwha_is_waiting : grem, you're a lousy limey pomegranate-sucking waterbiscuit.
gremlin_net : taniwha_is_waiting: I never pay attention to what admitted terrorists say about me.
taniwha_is_waiting : now grem, was her terrorism racial or religion?
taniwha_is_waiting : religious
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:13:58 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
the_chainsawpsycho : Lady: You dumbass, it only applies to women.
hunter_the_crazychick : We're all niggers today? Neat....
dj_flashback_80s : well actually blacks aren't the race that white people worry about. the biggest minority in America now is Hispanics. JOBS, WOMAN, SECURITY, mexicans are demographically taking it over. so i've heard
gremlin_net : taniwha_is_waiting: both, thinking about it.
taniwha_is_waiting : wow
the_chainsawpsycho : Get dat crooked ass grill up out my face, whit-whit.
gremlin_net : dj_flashback_80s: I'm not worried about it.
bard_of_no_regard : she's fair and false.....
taniwha_is_waiting : better get my nigger-lover suit on
hunter_the_crazychick : I'm kinda...pale for that.
banana_annie : poor bob
gumptiondude : bob needs it every day
columbo35462000 : hunter: polygraphs are 64 to 71% accurate according to the scientific literature. If 25,000 people were tested we would expect there to be 100 agnostics and 100 atheist who were given the exam if the sample was representive. So with 200 people in that pool we would expect at least one atheist/agnostic to pass the test.
taniwha_is_waiting : Ya know, I've never been called a "nigger lover" until the other day.
x_april_13_x : what's up everyone?
taniwha_is_waiting : I've been told I got "yellow fever" though.
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:14:58 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : the_lady_bewitched: what, you gonna cast a binding spell?
radardog : Grem- A counter point is that parables can be made in such a way to shock or move a person in order to convey a point. Implying Jesus may have not asked for that specific action or one like it, but just reminding others of hellfire. I agree though, the application of the parable is debatable, in any case.
columbo35462000 : hunter: not one passed
taniwha_is_waiting : so Columbo, since I passed a polygraph in which I was asked if I believed in god, and i answered no, then what's that tell ya?
dj_flashback_80s : i think to day a mexican man bought the Angles base ball team for 150 million
hunter_the_crazychick : Gonna light a candle, and perform wiccan white majyk on me through jesus and turn me into a bound nigger?
taniwha_is_waiting : Hrm, tells me that agnosticism is common, and that your test is glitchy.
taniwha_is_waiting : Oh dear me
anaisthesia : If I was a gay guy, I'd totally do bob up the ass
columbo35462000 : taniwha: i don't believe you
taniwha_is_waiting : hunter, you's a bound coon
the_chainsawpsycho : Hunter: I'm not sure that Wicca works on gangstas/thugs/homeys.
bobwar69 : thank dusty
taniwha_is_waiting : columbo: Of course you don't, you're a coward.
bobwar69 : s
hunter_the_crazychick : columbo35462000: making more shit up again? That's not what I asked you. I asked you to prove that polygraphs were infallible.
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:15:58 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
taniwha_is_waiting : oh, massa, i's scared of the HOODOO LADY
radardog : What is columbo talking about?
hunter_the_crazychick : laughs at tani.
taniwha_is_waiting : lol
gremlin_net : radardog: which calls for character values. This is the same guy who--well outside of parables--claimed 'I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man; for Adam was first formed, then Eve'. Anyone who would say that is just as likely to demand the deaths of all who oppose his reign.
hunter_the_crazychick : radar: It's ken. Who the fuck knows what he pulled out of his ass today.
michaelangeloglossolalia : is away (Away)
taniwha_is_waiting : she's got the bad juju
x_april_13_x : i thought this was an atheist vs christian chat room. i dont see anyone debating anything.
banana_annie : dusty would enjoy it more if she DIDN"T like him beforehand
anaisthesia : Profane so true!!
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:16:58 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
taniwha_is_waiting : april: Well, lady_bewitched is throwing racial hate around, and colombo is claiming all athiests are liars.
the_chainsawpsycho : "blumpkin" 1. when a homeboy gets head while he's dropping a deuce 2. what you get when your biatch satisfies a case of the blumpies PLUNGER, CHILIDOG WITHOUT THE CHILI - It ain't enought that Tyrone be skull fuckin Shaqueitha till her eyeballs be sinkin into tha back of her dome-- he be makin her give him blumpkins every mornin after he be drinkin a case of Natural Ice and blastin diarrhea all over da crib.
radardog : Yesterday he was giving a source for those polygraph test. The newspaper, and date. I searched the LA Times database -- nothing. He made them up.
taniwha_is_waiting : None of the christians have brains ehough to debate.
hunter_the_crazychick : radar: figures.
taniwha_is_waiting : radardog: So COlumbo is a liar huh? Wow.
taniwha_is_waiting : WHo's have thought it
the_chainsawpsycho : "Dats tight."
x_april_13_x : i didnt think so
taniwha_is_waiting : a christian liar pig.
gremlin_net : x_april_13_x: sure we are. radardog and I are currently debating whether Jesus was merely a terrorist himself, or expected his followers to be terrorists too.
gumptiondude : and bob
sara2smile2 : chain you worry me
anaisthesia : Chain you are sick
banana_annie : hello alec
taniwha_is_waiting : Hrm, love dat Nigga
columbo35462000 : hunter: the burden of proof is on you now to show atheism is valid. I gave 2 very large tests (25,000 people and another one where thousands of people were tested in a trucking company). prove to me that there are atheist in a empirical manner. I do not believe there is such a thing as atheism
dj_flashback_80s : my philosophy instructor tell us
anaisthesia : Alec
taniwha_is_waiting : Aww yeah.
hunter_the_crazychick : If a polygraph isn't given properly, it's completely wrong anyway. Let's also not forget that they're not admissible as evidence in anything...which is kinda funny.
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:17:58 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
taniwha_is_waiting : I forgot, I have to always defend whites because they're never wrong.
taniwha_is_waiting : Silly me.
taniwha_is_waiting : LOL
x_april_13_x : i believe jesuse was merely made up to try and keep people under control
amazing_linda2002 : so what is this room a christian bashing room????????
taniwha_is_waiting : If you're pale, you make no mistakes
gremlin_net : columbo35462000: you want proof that the lack of theism is valid? As opposed to what?
banana_annie : bobwar sounds reminiscent of somerset
alec_kohut_1 : Dusty :)
the_chainsawpsycho : Dust: ...and you love it.
radardog : Hunter- I just read an article claiming the NAS stated the they were unreliable.
taniwha_is_waiting : amazing: Lady Bewitched, who is Christian, is using it as a white power race hate room
hunter_the_crazychick : columbo35462000: um, no. Not even remotely. I haven't made any claims to the validity of anything; you're pimping polygraphs like they're accurate and infallible. You need to demonstrate that they are.
columbo35462000 : hunter: law enforcement and federal agencies still use the polygraph
dj_flashback_80s : if you want to be rich major in Bussiness/realestate, learn spanish and chinese
taniwha_is_waiting : and columbo is using it as an atheist hate room.
taniwha_is_waiting : He hates atheists.
banana_annie : family
banana_annie : lol
gremlin_net : columbo35462000: polygraphs are inadmissible.
taniwha_is_waiting : columbo: So you got a polgraph for me to take?
hunter_the_crazychick : columbo35462000: and are they admissible in court?
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:18:58 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
the_chainsawpsycho : "dumpster ass bitch" a girl with a large dirty ass that smells and resembles a dumpster. FAT ASS BITCH - Yo Tyrone hooked up wit dat dumpster ass bitch? That ho gots flys commin' out that booty an shit!
taniwha_is_waiting : so amazing_linda why do christians hate black people?
banana_annie : matt and chairman mikey sound a lot alike
gumptiondude : lol
hunter_the_crazychick : columbo35462000: do you even know what the fuck you're talking about, or did you see a CourtTV show and forget to check out the facts?
taniwha_is_waiting : lady: Well, since you're white you never make mistakes
gremlin_net : Hunter: what are the odds....
gumptiondude : wtf is ag taloking about
x_april_13_x : not all christians hate black peopl
the_chainsawpsycho : Hello, Baron
radardog : doesn't see columbo35462000 anymore. :(
instar_emperor_nero_ii : afternoon
instar_emperor_nero_ii : Chain
hunter_the_crazychick : Hey baron.
banana_annie : hello baron
amazing_linda2002 : i am a christian and i don't hate black people
gremlin_net : radardog: you're probably better off.
instar_emperor_nero_ii : Hey hunter
columbo35462000 : taniwha: this is a debate room where i attack atheism and defend christianity. If you cannot stand the heat get out of the kitchen. This is a debate room not a tea and crumpet room
instar_emperor_nero_ii : Dj
instar_emperor_nero_ii : et al
tray317 : brnbrn
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:19:58 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gumptiondude : ag seems otu of sorts
hunter_the_crazychick : columbo35462000: so start debating. Provide evidence. Real evidence.
gremlin_net : columbo35462000: you're defending christianity? When does that start?
anaisthesia : alec :O
yaanuwn_yaanuwn : all is in the all
x_april_13_x : a lot of people think atheists hate blacks
hunter_the_crazychick : Nero: figure out where you are and how you got there yet?
instar_emperor_nero_ii : Hunter, he's gonna run out of cliches before your next response, you know that
sara2smile2 : hey alec
radardog : columbo35462000- When you don't offer sources, lie about your sources, or just plain 'attack' atheism -- that's not a debate.
taniwha_is_waiting : columbo: Hey, if you want to defend christianity, why don't you show some concrete logical proof that your deity is real?
gremlin_net : x_april_13_x: that's silly.
instar_emperor_nero_ii : Hunter, yup.
gumptiondude : if they changed that
banana_annie : :( I guess not
taniwha_is_waiting : Your heat's about enough to make me put on a sweater.
alec_kohut_1 : Sara baby :)
hunter_the_crazychick : Nero: ken never runs out of cliches.
radardog : sees him now. lol
yaanuwn_yaanuwn : i am a god
instar_emperor_nero_ii : heh
taniwha_is_waiting : If you have the balls to debate me honestly, Columbo, throw down.
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:20:58 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
taniwha_is_waiting : Cmon kiddo
taniwha_is_waiting : Bring it.
taniwha_is_waiting : is undefeated in debate here
sara2smile2 : :)
hunter_the_crazychick : tani: he doesn't even know enough about polygraphs to know that they're inadmissible.
agnosticus_caesar : pokes Taniwha
instar_emperor_nero_ii : Right now, I'm sitting on the internet, set and ready to complain about a very predictable movie, except, it actually got some things right, and I'm not in a movie room.
bobwar69 : brb piss break
gremlin_net : Baron: it wasn't *that* bad....
agnosticus_caesar : it's a pity we rarely disagree, lol
yaanuwn_yaanuwn : its time for us to start dealing with the truth
taniwha_is_waiting : I'm the heavyweight debate champ 'round here, COlumbo. And Hunter's our scantily-clad room Lady of Wrestling.
instar_emperor_nero_ii : So, I'll just spare everyone me being ubergeek, conquerer of teh intarnet
instar_emperor_nero_ii : Hunter, gotcha
yaanuwn_yaanuwn : true facts about God is here for all of us
columbo35462000 : taniwha: we are both theist who believe in God. so we cannot debate this matter
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:21:58 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
the_chainsawpsycho : "flab-stabbin" to have sexual relations secretly with a fat ho. - That foo Moral be flab slabbin that fat hoe Jessica, what she tree o foe bills in weight?
taniwha_is_waiting : Gremlin's probably lighter than me, I'm a stocky guy. ;-)
gremlin_net : yaanuwn_yaanuwn: there are facts about deities now? Finally....
hunter_the_crazychick : columbo35462000: um, hey, pay attention....
taniwha_is_waiting : Columbo: Incorrect. I am an atheist; I do not believe in god.
taniwha_is_waiting : Obviously you're just too big a coward to debate me.
agnosticus_caesar : Sorry, I'm the champ
yaanuwn_yaanuwn : yes there are
columbo35462000 : taniwha: prove it
taniwha_is_waiting : ;-)
instar_emperor_nero_ii : columbo, you can debate anything regardless your personal views.
agnosticus_caesar : back off:P
gremlin_net : columbo35462000: there are no atheists? So you believe in Odin?
taniwha_is_waiting : columbo: I have no belief in any god. Therefore, I am an atheist.
taniwha_is_waiting : It's rather simple.
bobwar69 : is back
yaanuwn_yaanuwn : but do we want these facts or do we want these lies
amazing_linda2002 : taniwha have u ever seen the birth of a baby?
taniwha_is_waiting : amazing: Yep. Doesn't prove god to me though, dearie
gremlin_net : yaanuwn_yaanuwn: if you have facts, I want them.
banana_annie : ; wonders if dj sees her now
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:22:58 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
radardog : notes Ken claimed to get an A in a logic class.
yaanuwn_yaanuwn : truth of the matter is , there are more than one God
hunter_the_crazychick : Oh look, a whole website about it.... http://antipolygraph.org/statements/statement-016.shtml
gremlin_net : yaanuwn_yaanuwn: based on what evidence?
instar_emperor_nero_ii : Hell, I've won both sides of the "should we off kids before they're born" debate back in high school, despite my view that people should not have so many hang-ups about killing other people in general, regardless of age or developmental stage
yaanuwn_yaanuwn : this can be proven
banana_annie : sighs
gremlin_net : yaanuwn_yaanuwn: prove away.
gumptiondude : maybe iknce
amazing_linda2002 : taniwhat do u not believe there is a higher power
gumptiondude : once
columbo35462000 : taniwha: empirically prove you are an atheist. so far the "atheist" and "agnostics" have not done so well on polygraphs
taniwha_is_waiting : amazing: i do not.
yaanuwn_yaanuwn : ancient evidence , languages, common sense and so much more
alec_kohut_1 : Gump needs to watch more porn
agnosticus_caesar : laughs
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:23:58 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
taniwha_is_waiting : columbo: I have zero belief in any god. That would be, by definition, atheist.
gremlin_net : columbo35462000: which strawmen were tested on polygraphs?
kottexfloss : you can't
instar_emperor_nero_ii : columbo, when has taniwha's argument revolved around whether or not she is an atheist?
taniwha_is_waiting : If you care to administer a polygraph to me, do so.
instar_emperor_nero_ii : I'd like to see this; it'd be hard to construct.
the_chainsawpsycho : Dust will like this one for sure: "fo' shizzle" derived from "for sure" to ensure your friend of something. NO DOUBT - Homie1: "You got my back while I dee-boe some shank?" Homie2: "Fo' shizzle, my nizzle!"
hunter_the_crazychick : National Academies Press report: http://www.nap.edu/books/0309084369/html/
gremlin_net : yaanuwn_yaanuwn: but, about this evidence you claim to have for this fact....
kottexfloss : lol
amazing_linda2002 : so we just happened :-S
hunter_the_crazychick : columbo35462000: looks like polygraphs are far from infallible.
anaisthesia : my nizzle is like my nigga
taniwha_is_waiting : amazing: Pretty much.
anaisthesia : I knew that one already
sara2smile2 : chain, that one I've heard
anaisthesia : The others were new to me
sara2smile2 : oops
amazing_linda2002 : so do u believe in the big bang theory
gremlin_net : yaanuwn_yaanuwn: the question is simple. What evidence supports your assertion that deities exist?
anaisthesia : i knew the fo shizzle too
banana_annie : goodnight, y'all
taniwha_is_waiting : amazing: I believe in the Toroidal Universe theory.
anaisthesia : Izzle goes on the end of anything now
agnosticus_caesar : bye annie:(
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:24:58 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
taniwha_is_waiting : Columbo: Since you have not proven I am not an atheist, I am obviously an atheist.
taniwha_is_waiting : Thank you.
sara2smile2 : chain, you scared annie off
radardog : <= Atheist fool.
amazing_linda2002 : with that language bob, your not acting like a very good human being
agnosticus_caesar : lol
gremlin_net : Hunter: twenty bucks says that, once you show polygraphs to be fallible, columbo35462000 determines that the few strawmen who got the polygraph to believe that they were atheists were lying.
taniwha_is_waiting : timbot; Creationists make theories sound like something someone thought up after a night of drinking.
yaanuwn_yaanuwn : 6000 years ago there was a civilization that existed called the sumerians, these sumerians wroted down everything about them and a group of beings on clay tablets
hunter_the_crazychick : By the way, columbo35462000, I think it was in 1998 that the supreme court ruled that polygraphs were inadmissible. Military rule of evidence 707, or something like that.
gremlin_net : Hunter: long before that.
tray317 : crap i missed annie
yaanuwn_yaanuwn : these clay tablets can be found today in the british musum
columbo35462000 : taniwha: prove atheism is valid empirically. According to scientific studies polygraphs are 64 to 71 percent accurate. out of 25,000 plus people tested we would expect at least one person to be a genuine atheist or agnostic on the test but not a single one passed
yaanuwn_yaanuwn : mueseum
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:25:58 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gumptiondude : u too ag?
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: oh, he's saying that /everyone/ failed, and that /everyone/ believes in god now.
taniwha_is_waiting : columbo: Existential negative fallacies are inadmissable, so your point is negated. Sorry, you lose.
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: it was the first court case I turned up on the subject.
gremlin_net : columbo35462000: empirical evidence that a lack of belief in myths is possible?
instar_emperor_nero_ii : can't see gremlin...
radardog : columbo35462000- Suppose all atheists lie about being atheist. Does that mean God exists? No, not necessarily.
gremlin_net : columbo35462000: hang on. Are you claiming as fact that I believe in deities?
matthaios_el_greco : lmao
taniwha_is_waiting : columbo: I am an atheist, and have passed a polygraph which had that question in it - which I registered as honest when I said "No, I do not believe in any gods."
hunter_the_crazychick : From what I can tell, polygraphs are a fucking joke. They're just used as a tool to scare people into confessing, totally manipulatable by the operator.
yaanuwn_yaanuwn : these clay tablets predate the bible by thousands of years but yet they have similar almost identical stories in them
taniwha_is_waiting : komoto: You're iggied for religion.
golconda2.rm : columbo, Atheism is as empirically valid as lack of belief in invisible pink unicorns, Santa Claus, and the tooth fairy
anaisthesia : kottex
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:26:58 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
taniwha_is_waiting : Hunter: Yep.
yaanuwn_yaanuwn : these stories were recorded by the sumerians
instar_emperor_nero_ii : columbo, it sounds like YOUR argument revolves around everyone believing in this deity; ergo, you really do need to provide some sort of logical basis for that conclusion
taniwha_is_waiting : komoto, are you a nazi?
instar_emperor_nero_ii : Or, it's invalid
amazing_linda2002 : u appear to be a very intellectual person ........taniwha?
bobwar69 : what a name
bobwar69 : kottexfloss
columbo35462000 : gremlin: no. You do not believe in deities. You believe there is a God
anaisthesia : At least bob can take a joke
taniwha_is_waiting : komoto: Truth? What have you of truth? YOu have nothing but religious bigotry.
yaanuwn_yaanuwn : these sumerians wrote about a group of beings called the Annunaki
radardog : columbo35462000- Suppose your debate opponent is a theist, and argues against the existence of God. Does them being theist take anything away from their arguments? No, of course not.
gremlin_net : yaanuwn_yaanuwn: stories are fun, aren't they? What evidence supports your assertion that deities exist?
amazing_linda2002 : and to come to christ u have to come as a little child
taniwha_is_waiting : komoto: If you have truth, prove your god exists. Now.
instar_emperor_nero_ii : columbo, can you even see me?
hunter_the_crazychick : columbo35462000: why aren't you providing evidence? I just smacked your polygraph theory out of the water; come on. Back it up....
amazing_linda2002 : child like faith
taniwha_is_waiting : komoto: You have 1 minute. Prove your god, or be kickde from my screen.
taniwha_is_waiting : Amazing: Whatever.
hunter_the_crazychick : snaps her fingers at columbo35462000.
hunter_the_crazychick : Pay attention, child.
gremlin_net : columbo35462000: are you accusing me of believing in deities or not?
instar_emperor_nero_ii : nevermind. Suppose there's too many people in the room talking to you for you to be able to track.
golconda2.rm : komoto, atheism is the ascendance of rational thought over irrational blind faith
yaanuwn_yaanuwn : these Annunaki are the same beings that are mentioned all through out the bible
kottexfloss : i know ..
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:27:58 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gumptiondude : ag u nerd'
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: he thinks that "GOD" Isn't a deity.
taniwha_is_waiting : Columbo: I do not believe there is a god, or "God".
amazing_linda2002 : taniwha.........i think your a nice person
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: remember, ken is a fucking idiot.
gremlin_net : Hunter: I don't care.
anaisthesia : lol kottex
instar_emperor_nero_ii : ...wait, is Columbo kenboyred?
yaanuwn_yaanuwn : the word Annunaki means those who come from heaven to earth
gremlin_net : columbo35462000 is a kencarnation?
taniwha_is_waiting : amazing - I think your English is poor.
hunter_the_crazychick : No.
radardog : nods to Grem.
instar_emperor_nero_ii : oh.
hunter_the_crazychick : He's ken_in_ny
yaanuwn_yaanuwn : this can also be found in genesis
instar_emperor_nero_ii : Ahhhh
yaanuwn_yaanuwn : where it says
agnosticus_caesar : :P
gremlin_net : That makes sense now....
taniwha_is_waiting : Wow
instar_emperor_nero_ii : Well, since he's not responding, let's have a side conversation in the interim!
taniwha_is_waiting : makes sense
taniwha_is_waiting : Kencarnation
kottexfloss : lold
yaanuwn_yaanuwn : that the sons of God saw the daughters of man and they all picked wives of there choosing
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:28:58 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
kottexfloss : old*
instar_emperor_nero_ii : Or, we could all use the restroom, come back, and he'll almost be done with another response!
amazing_linda2002 : taniwah do bad u don't have voice i would like to say something to u
gremlin_net : Yup. It's Ken. Time to ig--well....
instar_emperor_nero_ii : Hell, we could be doing all sorts of things with this time
gremlin_net : I guess I haven't handed Ken's ass to him in about a week....
golconda2.rm : komoto, the only things in my heart are muscle and blood, no ideas or concpets of any kind
yaanuwn_yaanuwn : this is proof that there is more than one God
instar_emperor_nero_ii : We can even type lengthy, pseudo-humourous descriptions of what we can do with this time.
taniwha_is_waiting : Hey amazinglinda, why are so many christians hateful bigots like, say, your friend Komoto here?
yaanuwn_yaanuwn : but we were taught to call them angels
instar_emperor_nero_ii : And let's not forget masturbation
radardog : jiggabadu- No one's home.
instar_emperor_nero_ii : Who'se up for masturbation?
taniwha_is_waiting : I don't see you doing FUCK to stop his badmouthing and hate and bigotry against atheists
taniwha_is_waiting : why is that?
columbo35462000 : hunter: over 25,000 people tested. Not one atheist or agnostic. 25,000 tested plus a large trucking company (300 plus terminals) got the same exact results. Not one atheist or agnostic. Not one. Your slothful inductive reasoning on this matter does not hold water.
instar_emperor_nero_ii : Hunter, wave something shiny
gremlin_net : Ken: You're accusing me of believing in 'God'; can you prove this libel? Start now.
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:29:58 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
instar_emperor_nero_ii : OH! there he is.
taniwha_is_waiting : You secretly agree with him?
taniwha_is_waiting : Hey columbo, so where's the records of this test?
radardog : notes Ken is making up these statistics.
gremlin_net : yaanuwn_yaanuwn: not evidence; Strike One.
taniwha_is_waiting : Kennypoo
kottexfloss :
gremlin_net : yaanuwn_yaanuwn: not evidence; Strike two.
golconda2.rm : komoto, I submit that if you are a theist, YOU are the fool because YOU are the one with the blind irrational faith!
taniwha_is_waiting : oh, and amazing, i will not put my speakers to voice for you or anyone else.
instar_emperor_nero_ii : Columbo, I'd like to see evidence that twenty five thousand people is a good sample basis for anything larger than a football stadium at the superbowl.
hunter_the_crazychick : columbo35462000: 1. I want evidence that lie detectors are infallible. 2. Why do you submit this, when polygraphs are not admissible in court. 3. I want the studies. Give them to me. Links to the actual studies, now.
yeticock : dusty r u here
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:30:58 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
kottexfloss :
yaanuwn_yaanuwn : the Sumerians without any technology knew about all the planets in our solar system, they were the first ones to use math and they were the first to use astrology
gremlin_net : Well. That led to some quiet....
gremlin_net : Oh well.
golconda2.rm : komoto I have no religion, I am an ATHEIST!
yaanuwn_yaanuwn : and they say that everything they know they learned by the annunaki
golconda2.rm : komoto, plenty of atheists in foxholes, you just refuse to admit their existence
instar_emperor_nero_ii : Because, I'm claiming that it's not enough of a sample population even to construct a sales pitch capable of selling a gram of coke to robert downy junior.
yaanuwn_yaanuwn : in the hebrew the annuanki are called Eloheem
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:31:58 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gremlin_net : yaanuwn_yaanuwn: not evidence; Strike Three. You are now a known fraud, sentenced to 9999 days in the killfile. See you in 2031. Here you go: http://fraud.grem.tv
taniwha_is_waiting : komoto's a typical xianazi
yaanuwn_yaanuwn : and this word means these beings
gremlin_net : Next....
agape_and_eros : columbo the way to pass the atheist polygraph test is to deny him more to try to shake him off...and going to the Atheist vs Christian chat room makes you feel better about your decistion to deny God. It's cathartic
hunter_the_crazychick : columbo35462000: You're meweling about how we 'can't stand the heat', but you submit no actual evidence. I've given you four whole pieces of evidence already. Evidence *against* polygraphs being accurate, and evidence that polygraphs are inadmissible.
the_chainsawpsycho : Lady: This is some classic Jive for you. "jive [ass] turkey" 1. someone known to cheat or deceive. 2. one who commits idle boasting, or talks nonsense [BRAGGART] - You ain't nothing but a jive turkey motha fucka!
hunter_the_crazychick : columbo35462000: now give me a link to the tests.
instar_emperor_nero_ii : columbo, are you having quiet time again?
instar_emperor_nero_ii : I'll leave you alone if you are.
instar_emperor_nero_ii : I understand, you know.
taniwha_is_waiting : timbot - lol
hunter_the_crazychick : waits.
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:32:58 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
instar_emperor_nero_ii : Want a cookie?
gremlin_net : Ken probably forgot to avoid eating the keyboard again....
instar_emperor_nero_ii : Hey, this new watch is really shiny!
instar_emperor_nero_ii : There you are.
teapotagnostic : The national cemetary(military) in Santa Fe has lots of atheist insignias on the grave.
the_chainsawpsycho : Screening people with polygraphs has been illegal since 1988.
golconda2.rm : komoto, nice dodge! I am an atheist for the same reason I do not believe in the existence of unicorns, Santa, or the Tooth Fairy. I have seen NO reliable evidence FOR the existence of any of the aforementioned?
instar_emperor_nero_ii : Columbo, got a link to the article?
taniwha_is_waiting : We have an insignia?
radardog : columbo35462000- No such LA Times article exists. Go the the LA times database and search for it; It's not there. You can search from 1985.
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:33:43 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
LOG OPEN Thu, 15 May 2003 17:33:45 gremlin_net, limb0
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:33:50 gremlin_net, limb0
hunter_the_crazychick : columbo35462000: link. URL. Link to article. And by the way, you know that practise has been outlawed, right?
instar_emperor_nero_ii : Columbo, I could get you started. I believe LA times has a website.
teapotagnostic : Only on the graves. Not on the dog tags.
gremlin_net : waits for Ken's evidence....
instar_emperor_nero_ii : Columbo, in fact, since I have TIME...
taniwha_is_waiting : "practise"?
instar_emperor_nero_ii : I'll find that particular paper.
instar_emperor_nero_ii : Back in a minute.
taniwha_is_waiting : Hunter, you've spent too long with Gremlin
golconda2.rm : komoto, I am an atheist for the same reason I do not believe in the existence of unicorns, Santa, or the Tooth Fairy. I have seen NO reliable evidence FOR the existence of any of the aforementioned?
gremlin_net : Hunter is becoming Englishish.
taniwha_is_waiting : She orgasm with an extra "u" yet?
golconda2.rm : komoto, so you backpedal I see
taniwha_is_waiting : <-- made a joke that was too far into the pale
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:34:50 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
instar_emperor_nero_ii : Oh, goodie.
radardog : columbo35462000- 404 not found. And the actual article does not exist.
hunter_the_crazychick : columbo35462000: that's not the LA Times. That's an apologetics site.
instar_emperor_nero_ii : Don't mind if I check out the rest of ankerberg.com, do you?
the_chainsawpsycho : "kisheda" a pimping, player with all the ladies. usualy the ugly white girls. BLIND PLAYA, SORRY PIMP - That kisheda needs to get some women that are hot and not just the ugly white girls.
hunter_the_crazychick : Invalid.
gremlin_net : taniwha_is_waiting: yeah; she upgraded from 'nguuugh' to 'nguuuugh' a few months ago.
hunter_the_crazychick : OH LOOK! The requested URL /Article/apologetics/AP0702W4.htm was not found on this server.
instar_emperor_nero_ii : I mean, if ankerberg.com has any sort of a bias, your source is invalid, you know that...
bobwar69 : lmmfao @ komoto
instar_emperor_nero_ii : Let me look it up at the LA times archives themselves.
taniwha_is_waiting : Rock on.
golconda2.rm : komoto, what EVIDENCE do you have that "souls" even exist?
instar_emperor_nero_ii : I'll be back with an unbiased link.
hunter_the_crazychick : columbo35462000: you might want to NOT MAKE UP LINKS.
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:35:50 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
golconda2.rm : komoto, nice LIE!
gremlin_net : Why would a valid story on polygraphs be anywhere near the word 'apologetics'?
gremlin_net : This is weird. I haven't gonged columbo35462000 yet, but he's not showing up here.
kottexfloss : LOL
golconda2.rm : komoto, it is obvious that you are either a troll or a rabid fundy, either way, rational discourse with you is impossible (click)
columbo35462000 : golconda: logical fallacy. guilt by association. if adolph hitler said 2 plus 2 is 4 it still could be valid. also, ankerberg cites in the LA Times. Lastly, if you truly want to be a freethinker you have to stop using logical fallacies
gremlin_net : Maybe Ken's deity is trying to be useful, for once....
gremlin_net : Nevermind.
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:36:50 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gremlin_net : Ken: not evidence; Strike One.
apocalyptic_overthrow_xad : lol the classic laugh so hard till you cough
anaisthesia : lol!
kottexfloss : stop lying aggie
anaisthesia : kitty
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Dust
kottexfloss : lol
hunter_the_crazychick : columbo35462000: that url was invalid. They *don't* cite the article.
ianizhasheri : Hay.my tv is my mic......coolness
golconda2.rm : columbo, I attack Ankerberg's CREDIBILITY as a fundy, ANYTHING he says is suspect!
kottexfloss : you wouldn't fuck a stupid bitch ?
ianizhasheri : fucking killer.
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:37:50 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ wtf?
columbo35462000 : hunter: untrue. sloppy review of the ankerberg site. see the footnotes
gremlin_net : Ken: not evidence; Strike Two.
radardog : Search: polygraph Between: 06/28/1986 and 06/29/1986 No Articles Found. heheh
hunter_the_crazychick : columbo35462000: not untrue. Try clicking the link, you goddamn mental throwback.
candice2027 : brb
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:38:50 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
instar_emperor_nero_ii : Better hurry, columbo. Already digging through the archives now.
gremlin_net : Am I still invisible to Baron?
radardog : instar- Posted the search link; nothing.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : doesn't see baron
the_chainsawpsycho : "muggle trick" a bitch dat don know when to stop smokin a nigga's shit. GERONIHO, ONE LIT BITCH - I smacked dat muggle trick in the face when I found out she toked all my greens.
bobwar69 : komoto>> I have no darkness or misapprehension,and when I feel thankful ,it is directed at the person who did something for me
gremlin_net : Kitty: he's under instar_emperor_nero_ii
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Oh.
golconda2.rm : columbo, you knowingly submitted a FALSE link to a fundy site hat you still defend, why should I trust ANYTHING you say?
columbo35462000 : hunter: my mistake: try this: www.ankerberg.com/Article?apologetics/AP0702W4.htm
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:39:50 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
agape_and_eros : komotodragon Thanksgiving day is an enigma for them
hunter_the_crazychick : columbo35462000: and again The requested URL /Article was not found on this server.
gremlin_net : Ken: not evidence; Strike Three. Have another one of these: http://fraud.grem.tv
gremlin_net : Next.
hunter_the_crazychick : columbo35462000: you're an utter failure, you know that? An utter, fraudulent failure....
radardog : lol
hunter_the_crazychick : I'd tell you to kill yoruself, but I don't think you *can*
golconda2.rm : columbo, last link got a 404, got any MORE FALSE links?
instar_emperor_nero_ii : Columbo, retrieving everything from June 1 1986 to July 1 1986 that mentions "Simon and schuster audio"
instar_emperor_nero_ii : And... here it is.
LOG DATA Thu, 15 May 2003 17:40:50 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
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