| 25 June 2003 at 03.31.54 ZuluTime
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Posted by Gremlin [12.211.200.127 - 12-211-200-127.client.attbi.com] on 25 June 2003 at 03.31.54 ZuluTime:
This is too dumb to explain. You just have to read it....
LOG DATA Tue, 24 Jun 2003 21:09:59 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
radardog : Lyth dated satan?
demon_of_death_666_666 : yes
zedechiah_the_messiah : and there you have it Tan.
chickendra : I certainly would NOT believe in the god of the bible, it should have read
stalloneitaliano4u : no of course not
tannar_darr : >zed ????
stalloneitaliano4u : he could kill me
zedechiah_the_messiah : yes?
mragamemnon : agamemnon steps off the soapbox, sips a beer and concentrates on kitty kat's rack
goddess_goldberry : å stallone.. why?
kalista_theraven : radar-Yep, though she called herself Susan at the time.
stalloneitaliano4u : im not afraid to die
lrylvsjc : yes tannar but through the whole book of isiah God is speaking of bringing disaster upon evil and unrepentant Israel. that is the context of that statement in 45:7
deirdreofsorrows1 : hello
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : DEE
gremlin_net : lil_bit698: what empirical evidence supports your baseless assertion that deities exist?
angel_girl2005us2000 : who here is a Christian?
radardog : haaah lyth
kalista_theraven : Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
deirdreofsorrows1 : hey kitten
deirdreofsorrows1 : lythhhhhhhhh
golconda2.rm : angel, not I
bahamian_mofo : WHO here thinks we will make it as a species out of a culture of religion alive without destroying ourselves?
lil_bit698 : blessed are those who belive in christ without proof
deirdreofsorrows1 : radar oar
stalloneitaliano4u : i am a born again Christian
deirdreofsorrows1 : par
tannar_darr : >lry it's not evil. as you push it off to be... we can break it down in hebrew if you'd like.
demon_of_death_666_666 : so
lrylvsjc : not bringing disaster just to bring disaster. thats not the context of the verse at all
golconda2.rm : mofo, depends upon how quickly we get off this planet
zedechiah_the_messiah : yes. it is "evil".
LOG DATA Tue, 24 Jun 2003 21:10:59 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: usually the ones who can't spell the most vernacular of words are the christians.
deirdreofsorrows1 : zedpie
tannar_darr : sigh.
kalista_theraven : radar-I think everyone has probably dated or will date Satan at some point. It is a rite of passage.
goddess_goldberry : å stallone.. but he would torment you forever.. not even LET you die.. like in a camp.. but if you followed him.. you would live without any worries.. always be taken care of
tannar_darr : >zed do you know what holy means... biblically.
bahamian_mofo : ahhahaha.....good one Diogenes
angel_girl2005us2000 : so Christians are stupid now Gremlin
zedechiah_the_messiah : "evil" = "something bad". its explicit
deirdreofsorrows1 : hey asswippeeeeee
golconda2.rm : lil, actually those who believe in your god are IRRATIONAL, not blessed...
chickendra : If I found out Jesus existed, I wouldn't feel stupid at all. I don't like the teachings in the bible, so even if I was inclined to believe in god's, I certainly would not believe in the god of the bible, therefore, I would not follow the teachings of, or worship Jesus.
preparation_h_medicated_asswipe : deeee:)
gremlin_net : lil_bit698: not evidence; Strike One.
angel_girl2005us2000 : i got a few questions about atheism i've been wondering
tannar_darr : >zed answer my question.
deirdreofsorrows1 : knightie
knight_of_baawa : hugs dee
tannar_darr : >zed or I walk.
kalista_theraven : evil=something bad=zed?
knight_of_baawa : How's my li'l sis?
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: what are they?
angel_girl2005us2000 : one, do you know everything?
mragamemnon : i got a few tacos to eat
goddess_goldberry : å stallone.. you just said you would choose living in blissfullness over torment any day.. guess you were wrong about that?
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: nope.
bahamian_mofo : wuddabout the koran and the gita?
knight_of_baawa : angel, irrelevant
deirdreofsorrows1 : zed wishes he was bad
angel_girl2005us2000 : then how can you prove there's no God?
tannar_darr : >mragamemnon I upload you some salsa.
kalista_theraven : angel-The answer to that is rather obvious.
deirdreofsorrows1 : im ok, yourself?
knight_of_baawa : Try something that isn't from raycomfort.com, angel
angel_girl2005us2000 : how is it irrelevant?
LOG DATA Tue, 24 Jun 2003 21:11:59 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
tannar_darr : >zed hellOOOooo I'm waiting.
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: begging the question. There's no need to disprove the unproved.
angel_girl2005us2000 : to prove God all i have to do is find one little thing
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : angel: you say god is real - prove it!
mragamemnon : upload me kitty kat and her ta-tas
bahamian_mofo : the gita has a cosmic touch to it...that leaves many question open. i found that interesting...so does taoism
lrylvsjc : yes he does bring disaster but the context is disaster upon an evil people
lil_bit698 : like one of jesus's deciples forsaken jesus,by not believing til he touched jesus after his death.then jesus spoke bleesd are those who believe without seeing
stalloneitaliano4u : i am christian goldberry..... i am not perfect i am far from it but i try to do wut is right
angel_girl2005us2000 : but to disprove God, you must know everything
mragamemnon : mmmmeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeooooooooooooooooooow
chickendra : Atheist's don't know everything, but neither do Christians.
knight_of_baawa : It's irrelevant because I don't have to know everything to know that there are no square circles, which just blows your idiotic claim out of the water
lrylvsjc : not just to bring it becuase God is evil
knight_of_baawa : Have fun being stupid, angel
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : angel: no, not quite
lrylvsjc : big difference
kalista_theraven : angel-So Zeus exists?
gremlin_net : lil_bit698: not evidence; Strike Two.
angel_girl2005us2000 : how am i stupid?
stalloneitaliano4u : you cant disprove god
angel_girl2005us2000 : disprove God now
kalista_theraven : angel-And Horus?
knight_of_baawa : I just showed you, angel
golconda2.rm : angel, it is NOT up to the atheist to prove there is no god anymore than it is up to the non-believer in Santa to prove Santa's non-existence. The burden is on the BELIEVER, not the skeptic!
zedechiah_the_messiah : Tan, to say "biblically" is to make a special plea. Now certainly there are symbols, themes - motifs which could be labeled "biblical" and some language and/or idiomatic expressions, but "holy" (that which is sacred [sacred; held in awe]) is a simple concept and does not have a unique meaning to the bible alone
kalista_theraven : laughs at angel_girl.
demon_of_death_666_666 : god is evil and good
bahamian_mofo : philosopher and theologian?
goddess_goldberry : å stallone.. so you would follow who you think is RIGHT? not who has the greatest reward?
jaydmoore : tannar: zed is right.. there are translations that actually use the word "EVIL".. and even if you don't use that translation, you will always find that whatever word that is in it's place, is synonymous with the word "evil"
deirdreofsorrows1 : goddess
deirdreofsorrows1 : jay:)
jaydmoore : use a thesaurus
bahamian_mofo : itsnt that contradictory?
knight_of_baawa : tickles dee
jaydmoore : hey deirdre
goddess_goldberry : å deee :X
LOG DATA Tue, 24 Jun 2003 21:12:59 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deirdreofsorrows1 : isn't tickellishhhh
stalloneitaliano4u : God always has the greatest reward
mragamemnon : give us a peep, kitty kat
angel_girl2005us2000 : what if i were to say there was no gold in china?
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : angel: then you know SHIT about the debate -- come back later
knight_of_baawa : You are too, dee
knight_of_baawa : I know
mragamemnon : kat scratch fever...
stalloneitaliano4u : God always has the greatest reward
goddess_goldberry : å stallone.. you are changing the subject.. i wasn't talking about god
knight_of_baawa : Yep, raycomfort.com, angel
knight_of_baawa : Try again
angel_girl2005us2000 : does that mean their is no God in china?
golconda2.rm : angel, until you come up with reliable, objective, scientifically valid EVIDENCE, why SHOULD I believe in your god's existence?
goddess_goldberry : å i was talking about ethics
angel_girl2005us2000 : gold*
deirdreofsorrows1 : cat scratch fever...not that song:|
demon_of_death_666_666 : were gold
knight_of_baawa : angel, I told you not to use raycomfort.com
angel_girl2005us2000 : how am i wrong?
laydeezy : am new here want 2 ask christan hard questions
angel_girl2005us2000 : can you prove ther eis no God?
knight_of_baawa : Why are you? It's refuted bullshit
angel_girl2005us2000 : i'm not
lil_bit698 : then what are you doing then ,trying to get closer in belief?-golconda
knight_of_baawa : You are
goddess_goldberry : å if the choice is to follow someone like hitler and live is luxury, or deny him and be tormented.. then you would choose ethics over comfort?
jaydmoore : ted nuget is cool
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: you'd have to have this one thing to prove deities before it became an issue. What empirical evidence proves deities to exist?
LOG DATA Tue, 24 Jun 2003 21:13:59 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
kalista_theraven : angel-If you go to court, having been charged with a crime, is it up to you to prove your innocence, or is it up to the prosecution to prove your guilt?
angel_girl2005us2000 : complete different site
knight_of_baawa : You're getting it from raycomfort.com
deirdreofsorrows1 : ted is cool
jaydmoore : scary, but cool
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : angekl can you prove there is one
stalloneitaliano4u : yes
deirdreofsorrows1 : he rides buffalo
stalloneitaliano4u : yes
stalloneitaliano4u : yes
stalloneitaliano4u : yes
angel_girl2005us2000 : one, look at the unverse
stalloneitaliano4u : yes
angel_girl2005us2000 : it has order
knight_of_baawa : sighs
knight_of_baawa : god has order
golconda2.rm : angel, can you prove that Thor does not exist? If not, why don'y you worship HIM?
gremlin_net : lil_bit698: not evidence; Strike Three. Here's your shirt: http://fraud.grem.tv
angel_girl2005us2000 : how can coindience have order?
lil_bit698 : kitten can you prove there isn't?
knight_of_baawa : Therefore god must have had an orderer
goddess_goldberry : å in^
bahamian_mofo : ted is right wing whackjob...but he is funny
deirdreofsorrows1 : damien
knight_of_baawa : How can god not have an orderer, angel?
angel_girl2005us2000 : two, how did live from?
deirdreofsorrows1 : adi, lol true
radardog : Angel, okay, I'll prove a non-natural God does not exist. Or if it did exist, we couldn't experience it.
knight_of_baawa : How did god appear, angel?
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : lil i ask again can you prove there is
chickendra : What if I said there is no historical proof of the Isrealites being enslaved by Egyptians. The only account of the Isrealites being enslaved by the Egyptians is in the bible.
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : :))
damien_the_demon_kitty : Dee!
tannar_darr : >zed you tried to define him evil's creator biblically got the verse wrong, THEN you won't let me use biblical words to explain what the bible means.. I can't help you if you misread/misintrepret things that are obvious to a mild scholar.. TO SAY BIBLICALLY by quoting a verse, He is EVIL, then to deny me to explain the definition of the word is to allow you to pick ANY VERSE in the Bible and redefine it exactly how you want it. Now I'll take any shit folx wanna ditch out on me, but if you consider that a fair debate then you need to eat more cheese on the tacos and fart the head outta your arse... and I say that smilingly.
knight_of_baawa : Notice how angel refuses to answer questions
deirdreofsorrows1 : waves to radar
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: answer the question, Troll.
damien_the_demon_kitty : gives Dee a happyhugglesmooch.
angel_girl2005us2000 : he has always been
goddess_goldberry : å stallone. still there?
demon_of_death_666_666 : hey kitty
angel_girl2005us2000 : i told you
LOG DATA Tue, 24 Jun 2003 21:14:59 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
angel_girl2005us2000 : God has always been
radardog : gives Dee a severe licking.
golconda2.rm : angel, special pleading, try again
knight_of_baawa : Then you are a hypocrite, angel
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: what empirical evidence proves deities to exist, as you've claimed?
knight_of_baawa : Try again
stalloneitaliano4u : yes
deirdreofsorrows1 : I can beat megaman 2!
angel_girl2005us2000 : how am i a hyprocricate?
stalloneitaliano4u : im still here
deirdreofsorrows1 : I am cool now
demon_of_death_666_666 : :))
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: not evidence; Strike One.
jaydmoore : chickendra: I would agree with you
zedechiah_the_messiah : Tan, but i didnt say "god is evil". i said this....
knight_of_baawa : You want the rules to apply to everything but your god
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : that is inpossable
angel_girl2005us2000 : how did life get hre?
stalloneitaliano4u : ill tell you when i have to leave
happily_ex_fundy : dee how are you?
angel_girl2005us2000 : here*
knight_of_baawa : That makes you a hypocrite
tannar_darr : >jayd intrepretations are just that... break it down to how the word was used in the original language and a complete picture starts to come thru.
zedechiah_the_messiah : God of the bible = creator of evil
golconda2.rm : angel, What reliable, objective, scientifically valid EVIDENCE do you have FOR the existence of your god?
knight_of_baawa : How did god get here?
deirdreofsorrows1 : hey exfundy
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: not evidence; Strike Two.
deirdreofsorrows1 : im find, you
deirdreofsorrows1 : ?
demon_of_death_666_666 : 0:)=>:)
damien_the_demon_kitty : Heehee, I just got the Inuyasha playstation game, as soon as my brother gives up the TV, I'm trying it.
angel_girl2005us2000 : well God is beyound human understand
goddess_goldberry : å angel if something as eternally conplex as a god can always be.. why can't something as simple as the universe always be?
knight_of_baawa : misses his dee
happily_ex_fundy : I'm OK
mragamemnon : there is no proof either way - nor can mankind muster the brain power to provide an answer - to do so would qualify us as gods - agnosticim is the only honest position
jaydmoore : tannar: again, use a thesaurus
angel_girl2005us2000 : many things we can't understand
kalista_theraven : What a cop out.
radardog : Angel - Are you interested in what I said?
knight_of_baawa : If god is beyond human understanding, then you cannot even talk about it
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: not evidence; Strike Three. Here's your shirt: http://fraud.grem.tv
goddess_goldberry : å STALLONE>> STILL THERE??
knight_of_baawa : QED
knight_of_baawa : So you're fucked
tannar_darr : >zed it's very mature of you to just ignore what i said and just repeat yoru point as if hearing yourself speak proves something. I guess we are done.
knight_of_baawa : Try again
zedechiah_the_messiah : and Tan, the bible is both explicit and implicit about the origin of evil - god. also see Jn 1:1
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000 concedes that deities don't exist.
stalloneitaliano4u : im still here
LOG DATA Tue, 24 Jun 2003 21:15:59 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
lrylvsjc : Gods actions of judgement are disagreeble to the wicked, but are not ethically evil
chickendra : There isn't any order in the universe. We don't even have order on the earth. That is why we have natural disasters because the earth wasn't created, it occured.
stalloneitaliano4u : Im still here
jaydmoore : tannar: zed is like that, don't mind him
goddess_goldberry : å ahh you changed your font color
angel_girl2005us2000 : prove it Gremlin
damien_the_demon_kitty : Gremlin, at least in any measurable fashion.
zedechiah_the_messiah : Tann, thats cute. Its very mature of YOU to strawman me
goddess_goldberry : å you just didn't answer
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: I just did.
goddess_goldberry : å i didn't know if you had left
angel_girl2005us2000 : how?
johntheantibaptist : angel, if your god is the one described by the KJV bible then i want nothing to do with it even if it does exist.
tannar_darr : >jayd nope.. have to break down the original languages best figured intent. the ENGLISH word will change with the times just as the language does.
jaydmoore : chickendra: actually, there is quite a lot of order in the universe
damien_the_demon_kitty : Angel, why? Why should we do your work for you?
golconda2.rm : angel, nice job of ignoring direct questions and preaching, which gets you (click)'d
stalloneitaliano4u : i did u must not of seen me
lil_bit698 : Angel-you can't make or force someone to believe.But doing the right thing like telling the word is the only thing you can do hun.It is up to them.god bless you!
angel_girl2005us2000 : do you know the weight of all the sand in Hawaii?
zedechiah_the_messiah : Tan says "TO SAY BIBLICALLY by quoting a verse, He is EVIL"
zedechiah_the_messiah : didnt say that
goddess_goldberry : å nope. i missed it.. let me scroll up
stalloneitaliano4u : i would do wut is right
zedechiah_the_messiah : God of the bible = creator of evil
tannar_darr : John 1:1???
zedechiah_the_messiah : said that
stalloneitaliano4u : or try
tannar_darr : >zed no he's not.
goddess_goldberry : å stallone.. ok then.. agreed
LOG DATA Tue, 24 Jun 2003 21:16:59 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
zedechiah_the_messiah : y: im sorry. Jn 1:3
angel_girl2005us2000 : do you know the number of all the trees in the world?
demon_of_death_666_666 : true
tannar_darr : >zed you can run the mouth all you want...
lrylvsjc : God's actions of judgement are disagreeable to the wicked but are not ethically evil
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: by giving you three chances to provide the empirical evidence you claimed to have which would prove deities to exist in fact. You failed to prove them to exist, and conceded by default. You are now a known fraud.
chickendra : Angel. Do you?
deirdreofsorrows1 : well, what is the purpose of evil?
angel_girl2005us2000 : Gremlin, i said prove
angel_girl2005us2000 : it
zedechiah_the_messiah : Tan, yes. he is. its explicit. you posted the verse youself
golconda2.rm : lil, the "word?" You mean that compilation of contradictions, falsehoods, and other irrationalities?
damien_the_demon_kitty : angel, the point is, it is possible to measure the weight of the sand.
tannar_darr : but until you shut up to hear the other side you are just running yoru mouth... I dont' mean that as harsh as it came out.
knight_of_baawa : There isn't any, dee
angel_girl2005us2000 : if you don't know everything,you can't disprove God
goddess_goldberry : å stallone.. NOW we can talk about god.. i find the christian version of god evil.. if he does exist i would not follow him.. i do what I think is right
kalista_theraven : angel-You were told why that argument is bullshit. Try something else.
zedechiah_the_messiah : Tan or rather you can
damien_the_demon_kitty : Can you say the same for your deity?
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: and you failed to prove it. Therefore, you're a fraud.
tannar_darr : THE verse didnt' address evil in any form shape or fashion.
deirdreofsorrows1 : knightie, there could be
stalloneitaliano4u : ok
lrylvsjc : Gods actions of judgement are disagrreable to the wicked, but are not ethically evil
mragamemnon : focus on the earth, earthly problems and tacos - ignore selfish dreams of immortality and the drug superstition
damien_the_demon_kitty : Angel, and if you don't know anything, you can't disprove Great Cthulhu.
damien_the_demon_kitty : Do you have a point to make?
angel_girl2005us2000 : sure i failed to you
demon_of_death_666_666 : if you get reid of evil you kill good
deirdreofsorrows1 : I think someone could be evil, not persae the devil
zedechiah_the_messiah : Tan there is no other side. It is explicit. god is the creator of evil. It is MOST explicit in Isaiah, but it is also explicit elsewhere. Theres no questioning it
angel_girl2005us2000 : do you think we are a coindience?
goddess_goldberry : å stallone.. so know you understand my postition :)
LOG DATA Tue, 24 Jun 2003 21:17:59 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
kalista_theraven : damien-Just guessing here, but probably not.
zedechiah_the_messiah : Tan, yes it did
golconda2.rm : Isaiah 45:7 "I make peace and create evil. I the Lord do all these things."
angel_girl2005us2000 : look at our bodies, they are the most complicated machine on earth
lrylvsjc : Gods actions of judgement are disagreeable to the wicked, but are not ethicallly evil
radardog : Angel- Actually, you can prove that things don't exist without knowing anything. You can just provide a proof based on given attributes.
damien_the_demon_kitty : Kalista, shh, it's always fun to give them false hope.
angel_girl2005us2000 : do you think we are a coindience?
deirdreofsorrows1 : but I meant...god being the creator of evil....there had to be a reason why he would create evil
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: you also failed to the scientific method. You also failed yourself. You claimed to have evidence proving deities to exist, but you failed to provide it here. You're a fraud. Go away.
chickendra : Our bodies are complicated, but imperfect, just as the earth is imperfect.
angel_girl2005us2000 : of corse Gremlin, you don't look at anything i say
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: no one cares, Fraud.
angel_girl2005us2000 : you assume i'm stupid
angel_girl2005us2000 : u know what
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: no one cares, Fraud.
angel_girl2005us2000 : bite me
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: no one cares, Fraud.
angel_girl2005us2000 : how am i a fraud?
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: no one cares, Fraud.
mragamemnon : bite you in the taco?
LOG DATA Tue, 24 Jun 2003 21:18:59 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
angel_girl2005us2000 : you seeme hate ful
deirdreofsorrows1 : lol taco
mragamemnon : be specific
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: no one cares, Fraud.
damien_the_demon_kitty : Angel, dipshit, he just told you.
jaydmoore : tannar: and you don't even need the Bible to know this.. you are simply denying it out of your faith... very foolish
deirdreofsorrows1 : knightie, I have a nightmare for you
deirdreofsorrows1 : cheesehead fundies
damien_the_demon_kitty : Maybe you should try listening instead of preaching next time.
jaydmoore : god created everything
kalista_theraven : angel-We assume that you're stupid, because you're arguments are stupid(and stolen). It seems reasonable.
tannar_darr : >zed NO zed that may be the best you can reach to understand, but I find it amusing you dont' even care for the reason you are wrong.. you can't even consider you are wrong, you just have to ram your opinion down my throat.... you are off base.. you are not answering tennets consistent all thru the Bible, if you want to define Him evil by the book then accept it's definitions... You can call black red too... and argue that there is no black only red,, it won't make you right it'll just make you stupid looking.
johntheantibaptist : angel, the human body is far from the most complex machine on the planet, and anyone who says that has no idea of the level of technology we have.
angel_girl2005us2000 : Gremlin ur a fool, hopefully you'll learn before it's too late
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: no one cares, Fraud.
tannar_darr : >jayd God allowed Evil.
damien_the_demon_kitty : Angel, prove it.
tannar_darr : >jayd that is VERY accurate.
jaydmoore : tannar: god created it
jaydmoore : don't be silly
angel_girl2005us2000 : most of this stuff i came to on my own
tannar_darr : >jayd nope... there IS a difference.
damien_the_demon_kitty : Prove that gremlin is a fool, and prove that he is hateful.
angel_girl2005us2000 : atheism is a belef
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: no one cares, Fraud.
kalista_theraven : The post mortem threat..last resort of the cornered fundy.
jaydmoore : he fucking CREATED the tree of knowledge
damien_the_demon_kitty : Angel, wrong, atheism is a lack of a belief.
angel_girl2005us2000 : prove i'm a Fraud
damien_the_demon_kitty : Try again, fraud.
deirdreofsorrows1 : I think that grem doesnt care enough to hate lol
angel_girl2005us2000 : yeah a belief in the lack of belefs
LOG DATA Tue, 24 Jun 2003 21:19:59 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: I already did, Fraud.
knight_of_baawa : I have had worse nightmares, dee
zedechiah_the_messiah : Tan im not the one calling black (evil) red (not evil). That would be you. I know what it is. I know it is explicit.
angel_girl2005us2000 : no you didn't
damien_the_demon_kitty : Angel, he did already, perhaps you should listen, fraud.
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: no one cares, Fraud.
angel_girl2005us2000 : you just said a bunch of stuff
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: no one cares, Fraud.
angel_girl2005us2000 : and said i was a Fraud
deirdreofsorrows1 : knightie, but that would be freaky
damien_the_demon_kitty : Angel, yes he did, liar and fraud.
angel_girl2005us2000 : what did you prove that ur an idiot?
chickendra : Angel
a_atheist : fucking xters
tannar_darr : >zed no you don't.. you've already misintrepreted two different scriptural references...
angel_girl2005us2000 : how am i a liar?
angel_girl2005us2000 : and a fraud?
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: so just saying a bunch of stuff isn't proof?
zedechiah_the_messiah : Tan, no, i havent.
damien_the_demon_kitty : Angel, yes, that 'bunch of stuff' is evidence that you're a fraud.
mragamemnon : angel - you are 16? - keep an open mind and study more - don't fall into sheer superstition!
knight_of_baawa : I've seen them before, dee
tannar_darr : >zed and whateer it means in english today is not what it means then.
angel_girl2005us2000 : look at ur body
tannar_darr : >zed ok, here's the difference... readY?
damien_the_demon_kitty : Angel, you claimed you had evidence for a deity, you didn't, you lied.
zedechiah_the_messiah : Tan, yes it is
angel_girl2005us2000 : it's the most complicated machine ever
damien_the_demon_kitty : Angel, you claimed you could prove your deity, you didn't, you're a fraud.
deirdreofsorrows1 : knightie, that sux
deirdreofsorrows1 : zedpieee
LOG DATA Tue, 24 Jun 2003 21:20:59 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
zedechiah_the_messiah : Tan, go ahead, but it is still explicit
damien_the_demon_kitty : Angel, your point?
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: then, by just saying a bunch of stuff, you've failed to prove deities to exist, as per your assertion. Therefore, you're a fraud. QED, Fraud.
knight_of_baawa : Sure does, sweetie
zedechiah_the_messiah : Deewahdiddly
mragamemnon : kitty - give us a close-up of that tattoo
angel_girl2005us2000 : then tell me, how did life get here
demon_of_death_666_666 : you are a fraud because jesus said to turn the outher cheak
angel_girl2005us2000 : you failed to prove they didn't
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: no one cares, Fraud.
icarus_smokes : Go ahead, MJH
mragamemnon : throw us a frigging bone
angel_girl2005us2000 : thereofr ur a fraud
angel_girl2005us2000 : anda lier
chickendra : Angel's arguments are doing a very poor job covincing me that god exists, in fact, they doing a much better job proving that god doesn't exist.
deirdreofsorrows1 : hey icarus
angel_girl2005us2000 : so look at yourself Gremlin
angel_girl2005us2000 : did you prove God dosn't exist?
angel_girl2005us2000 : yes or no?
icarus_smokes : heyyy dierdre
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: again, Moron, there's no need to disprove the unproved. Stop questionbegging, Fraud.
damien_the_demon_kitty : Angel, we never claimed they didn't, liar.
demon_of_death_666_666 : no
mragamemnon : b-0-i-n-g
mragamemnon : nice ta-tas
LOG DATA Tue, 24 Jun 2003 21:21:59 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deirdreofsorrows1 : mmmmmmmmm
chickendra : Why would we have to prove that something doesn't exist?
mattrokc : noone can prove whther or not God exists...it is something you either believe in our heart or ont...call it faith
faeriegrl212003 : hello all
mmmmmyid : deeeeeeeeeee
angel_girl2005us2000 : i'm a fraud
tannar_darr : >zed I'm willing to hear you out and meat you in conversation.. you are only repeating the same thing over, and over, adn over... and over, and ignoring that there is an explanation. so by the nature of your hardline approach and unwillingness to hear something new, you've proven empiracly that you could care less what it meant in the scripture you quoted. you are just parroting things you've heard and have no intellectual say so in the argument so I need to NOT talk with you but to the original that spoke to the parrot.
deirdreofsorrows1 : hey farie girl
knight_of_baawa : the heart doesn't believe anything
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: we know, Fraud.
angel_girl2005us2000 : but yet you can't prove ther's no God
damien_the_demon_kitty : She finally admits it.
angel_girl2005us2000 : ur a fraud
mragamemnon : the kitty is stacked - meeeeeoooowwww
demon_of_death_666_666 : can you prove hes real angel
damien_the_demon_kitty : Angel, we don't have to.
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: wrong, Fraud.
angel_girl2005us2000 : remember when you point at me
angel_girl2005us2000 : two are point back
knight_of_baawa : There isn't evidence, mjh
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: no one cares, Fraud.
knight_of_baawa : So that's simply a lie
angel_girl2005us2000 : well disprove God
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: no one cares, Fraud.
chickendra : Angel. Do you believe in fairies?
mragamemnon : god bless kitty - her hootage and her furry taco
angel_girl2005us2000 : if you can, ur not a Fraud
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: no one cares, Fraud.
zedechiah_the_messiah : Tan, nice ad hominem. However, i said "go ahead...but it still explicit' and it is still explicit
mattrokc : noone can prove whther or not God exists...it is something you either believe in our heart or ont...call it faith
damien_the_demon_kitty : Angel, do you have a point? Further hypocrisy doesn't help your case any.
angel_girl2005us2000 : Gremlin, stop with ur repeating
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: no one cares, Fraud.
mattrokc : noone can prove whther or not God exists...it is something you either believe in our heart or ont...call it faith
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : <~ is not furry at all
LOG DATA Tue, 24 Jun 2003 21:22:59 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
faeriegrl212003 : so is this people just trying to prove their religion is the only way to be?
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : and ur not seeing the proof
kalista_theraven : angel-Rather hypocritical, aren't we?
demon_of_death_666_666 : you did not ancer
tannar_darr : >zed ad hom my ass... in no way can you make the term apply.
angel_girl2005us2000 : answer, can you prove beyond the shadow of a doubt there is no God?
damien_the_demon_kitty : Angel, he'll stop until it gets through your rather thick head.
tannar_darr : >zed you're the KEN equivalent tonight...
mragamemnon : kitty is a slick kitty?
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: not until I claim that to be the case, Fraud.
kalista_theraven : angel-We don't have to.
angel_girl2005us2000 : sure, i'm thick headed
mmmmmyid : angel, of course not. just like you cant prove there is one
chickendra : There are no gods
mattrokc : FAITH
angel_girl2005us2000 : cause i think different
demon_of_death_666_666 : then tell him to show his face
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : angel -- can you even show that one might exist?
kalista_theraven : sighs.
angel_girl2005us2000 : of corse i'm think headed
mmmmmyid : kitty is a mexican hairless kitty
damien_the_demon_kitty : Angel, no, you don't think at all.
angel_girl2005us2000 : but oh no, don't question an athiest
angel_girl2005us2000 : they know everything
mragamemnon : well, we have to leave some things to the imagination
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: what's 'think headed', Fraud?
chickendra : think headed! :))
angel_girl2005us2000 : so u claim to know me?
damien_the_demon_kitty : You simply repeat what's been told to you.
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : kitten is not mexican but is hairless
mragamemnon : like our superstitious cohorts on this orbiting orb
angel_girl2005us2000 : man damien you make big claims
LOG DATA Tue, 24 Jun 2003 21:23:59 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
angel_girl2005us2000 : actually, i read
angel_girl2005us2000 : i study
damien_the_demon_kitty : Angel, seeing your posts, I know all I need to know.
mattrokc : how conceited cold one be to assume they have the intellect to prove or disprove the existenc eof god
demon_of_death_666_666 : not a athest
zedechiah_the_messiah : Tan, of course i can. It was an attack on me, not my argument. It was not a rebuttal to the explicvit verse that both you and another gave which clearly states "i create evil...i do all these things", meaning that god is the author of ALL things (see also Jn 1:3)
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: no; I don't claim to know you; I don't want to know you, Fraud.
angel_girl2005us2000 : once again, making claims you can't prove
angel_girl2005us2000 : who told you about atheism?
mmmmmyid : there is actually a breed of cat called the mexican hairless
damien_the_demon_kitty : Angel, no I'm not, I can back up each and every one of them.
mattrokc : what an irrelevant conversation
angel_girl2005us2000 : so can i
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: name a claim I've made which I failed to disprove, Fraud.
demon_of_death_666_666 : not you
radardog : angel- If you did study, you would know numerous proofs that show that things do not exist.
angel_girl2005us2000 : but yet, i'm wrong
deirdreofsorrows1 : mmmmmm, the one with big ears?
angel_girl2005us2000 : ur right
angel_girl2005us2000 : and nothing will convience you otherwise
mmmmmyid : dee, dunno
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: we accept your concession.
deirdreofsorrows1 : hmm
damien_the_demon_kitty : Angel, with the way you're making an ass out of yourself, yes.
angel_girl2005us2000 : sure, you ignore me
faeriegrl212003 : look angel you can't prove anymore to us than we can to you why are you getting so mad
deirdreofsorrows1 : hey capitalist lol
angel_girl2005us2000 : i asked disprove God
angel_girl2005us2000 : have you?
mragamemnon : thanx, kitty - what's the tattoo...
mragamemnon : shark?
mmmmmyid : angel, no one told many of us about atheism. atheism isnt spread by word of mouth. its often a realization.
angel_girl2005us2000 : nope
damien_the_demon_kitty : Angel, we don't have to.
mragamemnon : butterfly?
LOG DATA Tue, 24 Jun 2003 21:24:59 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: I never claimed that deities don't exist.
zedechiah_the_messiah : Tan, youre just bitching about me, while ive continued to deal with the verse. Youre not offering any other explanation (which, really, you cant. It is as ive repeatedly said "explicit" it says it right there. God creates evil, because god is the source of all things)
damien_the_demon_kitty : We never claimed anything about any gods.
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : panda
demon_of_death_666_666 : god :-/who
mmmmmyid : i was technically an atheist for years before i even heard the term
tannar_darr : HEY IGNORANT ONE YOU GAVE THE VERSES>> NOT ME> And I didn't attack YOU I only pointed out EMPIRICAL evidence of your actions! if EMPIRACAL evidence can even co exist in an ad hom comment you need to re take your english one o one.
angel_girl2005us2000 : i asked you can you prove they don't
angel_girl2005us2000 : no answer
mragamemnon : how about a koala
damien_the_demon_kitty : Angel, we don't have to.
damien_the_demon_kitty : Again.
demon_of_death_666_666 : who
mragamemnon : put one on the other side
angel_girl2005us2000 : why not?
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: can you prove that goblins don't exist, Fraud?
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : lol no
damien_the_demon_kitty : Angel, because we're not the ones making claims about them, you are.
tannar_darr : >zed you've not dealt with the verse other to say Yes it is, YES it is. YES it is... and it took about thirty of those to get you to even START to consider the other side of the argument.
mattrokc : atheist or agnostic?
mragamemnon : the panda is lonely
damien_the_demon_kitty : mattrokc, both.
angel_girl2005us2000 : all i said, disprove God
chickendra : Angel. What if I said I am a Hindu, and believe in Krishna? Should I prove Krishna exists?
demon_of_death_666_666 : what about demons
angel_girl2005us2000 : did you?
angel_girl2005us2000 : nope
zedechiah_the_messiah : Tan, hahah that is no doubt an ad hom and the following commentary false. I didnt give the verse. a_atheist did. Then you did,. Then Deadman did
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: disprove goblins, Fraud.
mmmmmyid : angel, prove god
angel_girl2005us2000 : so who's the fraud?
tannar_darr : >zed you've only proven a ken like approach to logic, I'll not waste my time with you.. it's pointless... in yoru mind you have all the answers.
mattrokc : can't be both
damien_the_demon_kitty : Angel, and all we said, we don't have to.
LOG DATA Tue, 24 Jun 2003 21:25:59 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
mmmmmyid : can you?
angel_girl2005us2000 : why?
damien_the_demon_kitty : Angel, you.
demon_of_death_666_666 : a they real
angel_girl2005us2000 : i tried
tannar_darr : >zed I DID NOT GIVE ANY VERSE,
angel_girl2005us2000 : and you don't listen
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: you can't disprove goblins, Fraud?
tannar_darr : I POSTED WHAT WAS PROFERED PROVING EVIL WAS NOT IN IT>
mmmmmyid : angel, i wasnt here to see the proof
demon_of_death_666_666 : demons
damien_the_demon_kitty : Angel, actually we've been reading every typo-infested post of yours.
demon_of_death_666_666 : are real
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : mrag the panda is in memory of some one
angel_girl2005us2000 : one, look at the unverse it has order
kalista_theraven : sighs.
mmmmmyid : angel, and i'll give you a little hint........it's impossible to prove god and it's impossible to disprove god as well
angel_girl2005us2000 : if God made everything, wouldn't you expect order?
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: not particularly, Fraud.
chickendra : Demons are real! :))
mragamemnon : a panda?
damien_the_demon_kitty : Angel, actually order makes up about .000001% of the universe, more or less.
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : hence the location close to my heart i was gonna get it on the left but some one had a tat there that i knew so i got it on the right
mmmmmyid : angel, if there was life, woudlnt you expect order?
LOG DATA Tue, 24 Jun 2003 21:26:59 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
mragamemnon : your pet panda, frodo?
angel_girl2005us2000 : oh?
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: if goblins made everything, wouldn't you expect order, Fraud?
angel_girl2005us2000 : is gravity a constant?
goddess_goldberry : å(stalloneitaliano4u) angel hasn't taken any physic classes
deirdreofsorrows1 : lilll
tannar_darr : Zed listen... I dont' wanna end up pissing you off, but you are so off base on the fairness meter here, I'd rather not have the convo like this.... email or fone, or in person.... but there's no need in this going where it's going.
johntheantibaptist : angel the only constant in the universe is that things change by the second.
zedechiah_the_messiah : haha hTan yes you DID post the verse. Is 45:6-7. I did NOT. a_atheist did. Deadman did. I did not
angel_girl2005us2000 : are super nova's a constiant?
mmmmmyid : angel, nope
lil_miss_atheist : deee
goddess_goldberry : å errrr
chickendra : If god created the earth, why is it so full of imperfections?
demon_of_death_666_666 : screams in a mad fit
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : no a friend who passed away gave me my first panda stuffed animal and i collected them since
angel_girl2005us2000 : does the theory of relativity apply everyday?
tannar_darr : >zed OK FINE I didn't offer ANY verses as you said! I only posted what was offered.
demon_of_death_666_666 : Yahoo!s
goddess_goldberry : å angel.. on earth
damien_the_demon_kitty : A constant? Go ahead angel, explain how supernovas are 'constant'.
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: stop questionbegging, Fraud.
angel_girl2005us2000 : does E=mc squared?
damien_the_demon_kitty : Angel, do you even have a clue about any of the things you just listen?
demon_of_death_666_666 : any one
faeriegrl212003 : is this all this room is about
angel_girl2005us2000 : they hapen
mragamemnon : my sister keeps a vile of ash from her favorite dog "trixie"
goddess_goldberry : å angel.. theory of relativity gets thrown out the window in space.. esp in black holes and such
damien_the_demon_kitty : *listed.
zedechiah_the_messiah : Tan, well youve already done that i just havent laid into you yet. Your "ignorant" comment was REALLY fucking stupid of you because im going to tear you a new asshole for being a fuckhead and not knowing what the fuck youre talking about. So ill let you run your festering gob and then ill shut you down
sandman_20_2k3 : Whats up losers?
LOG DATA Tue, 24 Jun 2003 21:27:59 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
mragamemnon : around her neck in a locket
gremlin_net : angel_girl2005us2000: fuck it. You're a moron. Here: http://tard.grem.tv
gremlin_net : Next....
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : i am not like that i stick to memories
mragamemnon : true
mmmmmyid : angel.......a life form marveling at how perfect the world around it is for life is like a mud puddle marveling at how well the hole fits
goddess_goldberry : å angel.. you are goofy.. and not reading me
johntheantibaptist : angel, yes supernova's happen but not every star goes supernova.
angel_girl2005us2000 : how about this planet?
demon_of_death_666_666 : now children
damien_the_demon_kitty : Angel, fraud, moron, show the mathematical equation for calculating gravitational pull of a given object.
gremlin_net : Time to go make a casestudy out of angel_girl2005us2000....
radardog : chickendra- what imperfections? This is the best of all possible worlds. :-P
sandman_20_2k3 : I said HELLO LOSERS!!
kalista_theraven : mmmmyid-Get that from Douglas Adams, by any chance?
angel_girl2005us2000 : isn't it convient that we are the right distance from the sun
tannar_darr : >zed then go for it oh so wise one.
damien_the_demon_kitty : While you're at it, show us the internal mechanisms of a supernova.
mattrokc : that's why it is the THEORY of relativity
deirdreofsorrows1 : imperfections are great sometimes
faeriegrl212003 : hello sandman
zedechiah_the_messiah : Tan i said "a_atheist post the MOST explicit verse, but there are more". I didnt even bring that verse up. Someone else did. Then you posted it. Then Deadman posted it
angel_girl2005us2000 : the moon is just the perfect size and distiance
mmmmmyid : angel, i am being respectful when i say this, you arent really proving there is a god
goddess_goldberry : å arguement from awe
goddess_goldberry : å does't work
mragamemnon : i stick to tacos, beer and hootage
angel_girl2005us2000 : the atmosphere is just right
demon_of_death_666_666 : now children
LOG DATA Tue, 24 Jun 2003 21:28:59 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
--Gremlin