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Posted by Gremlin [12.211.200.127 - 12-211-200-127.client.attbi.com] on 30 May 2003 at 20.46.21 ZuluTime:
This is long. But necessary. Since seraphina22 'isn't a liar'.
It must go public.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 07:45:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1 johntheantibaptist : khotic drop the caps mythterjesus : dang! And I EVEN put a GREAT pic of Jesus on my profile --Gremlin
begs_to_be_sodomized : We have good nipples.
etherealdumpster11901 : jmellonball: All of you can french my asshole ..jesus taught me LOVE!!
alicia_burrfoot02 : and u deadman where r u from
deadman_932 : i got some espresso for ya, jo
revspecies116 : that is S.I. isn't it, alicia
alicia_burrfoot02 : yep
deadman_932 : here in los angeles, burrfoot
begs_to_be_sodomized : I have some coffee coloured nipples for you
misfit_force_of_nature : Oh boy! Someone in Nigeria wants to give me several million dollars and all I need to give them is my bank account info! O.O *SHOCK* ... *recycle bin*
deadman_932 : new mexico originally , in the states
zedechiah_the_messiah : wheres that confounded bridge?
zedechiah_the_messiah : going
zedechiah_the_messiah : well, now wait. some of my socks are nothing but lint held together by some miracle. so, again, proof of magic
zedechiah_the_messiah : sciecne is unable to explain the missing sock - http://www.funbureau.com/
gmitchm : caffienated
gmitchm : ?
deadman_932 : jo, you certainly do
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Hmmmmm. Why does YahELite say red_rose_athena has spammed 10 times.....
claytablets20022002 : it's the religious right that has the freedom
etherealdumpster11901 : nigerians..like christians..rarely lie
seraphina22 : What's the topic at the moment? Is there one?
alicia_burrfoot02 : my god dead take a lot of friggin kiwis to take over there 8-|
deadman_932 : and quite appealing
better_being_humble_like_jesus : dead you dont have a terminal illness i hope
y_tadahikaru : hi..
zevnak : Oh nadia, you are a case of the pot calling the kettle black
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 07:46:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : red_rose_athena: intellectual discussion is used as a 'defence mechanism when people fear that they have no other way out of an argument'? Would you prefer, say, all caps and threats of physical violence?
zevnak : I am on the phone right now with Yahoo Customer Support
hunter_the_crazychick : Maybe a few gradeschool insults?
better_being_humble_like_jesus : dead man?
deadman_932 : haha, alicia, naw, just a few of you is enough, angelenos are pussies
zevnak : Do you mean exclusionary?
zevnak : it is amazing how resnetful some people are in here of those who use dictionaries
deadman_932 : what, giva?
seraphina22 : Hmm...alrighty then.
misfit_force_of_nature : red_rose_athena = fighter for the proletariat
alicia_burrfoot02 : only takes a few of us to make an impact ;;)
etherealdumpster11901 : rose = needs penicillin
alicia_burrfoot02 : hehehehe
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 07:47:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deadman_932 : tis true, alicia
urmom8me2 : Hey People
better_being_humble_like_jesus : dead something about survival what ever you are...........never giva
seraphina22 : So...any thoughts on why it's atheist vs. Christian..and not atheist vs. all religions?
hunter_the_crazychick : It only takes one person to make an impact. You just have to throw them hard enough.
better_being_humble_like_jesus : never giva up
claytablets20022002 : the gov. knows whats good for us thats why
better_being_humble_like_jesus : :D
zombie_wants_you_dead : :giggles at Hunter
zombie_wants_you_dead : Erg.
cumgetsomme : any one intrested in helping me out
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Uh. No. 'intellectual talk' is meant to explain things in a better way. By using more precise words, the conversation is also more precise. It is clearer. Just because certain people are lazy, and don't care about learning new words, does not mean something is meant to confuse them.
deadman_932 : zombie?
etherealdumpster11901 : atheist vs shintoists didnt do well demographically
zombie_wants_you_dead : Yeah?
zevnak : Where is that mentirosa
better_being_humble_like_jesus : i said ihope you dont have a terminal illness
misfit_force_of_nature : grabs fistfuls of Zombie's hair and hangs. o.o
deadman_932 : josephine has prehensile breasts
zombie_wants_you_dead : screams
zevnak : Mentirosa, a donde fuiste?
begs_to_be_sodomized : Now I know why I can't see rose.
urmom8me2 : I do, lol
osmondator : I am looking for some god believing female sluts
misfit_force_of_nature : squeaks happily.
hunter_the_crazychick : kitty: what do *you* know, though. *smirks*
begs_to_be_sodomized : yahelite auto ignored for spamming
zombie_wants_you_dead : Deadman: Hm. She's more woman than I am.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 07:48:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
seraphina22 : Well...now..that's not exactly what I said, now is it?
hunter_the_crazychick : I thought that same way.
zombie_wants_you_dead : shoves Joshie
deadman_932 : morning, joshie
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : grins at alcy
misfit_force_of_nature : wiggles.
seraphina22 : But I trust you knew that. There's a gulf of difference between "all religions" and shintoism
misfit_force_of_nature : Morning deadman_932.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Shame on me for what?
alicia_burrfoot02 : only if ya caught
deadman_932 : looks up at zombie's hair and sees josh crouching in it
better_being_humble_like_jesus : life is about how you live it not the length of time
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ For speaking English properly? For looking up words that I don't know?
better_being_humble_like_jesus : we all die
zevnak : and what is that gulf?
hunter_the_crazychick : laughs.
misfit_force_of_nature : starts tying knots. = d
urmom8me2 : I'm not gonna die
zevnak : I want to spank kitty
hunter_the_crazychick : red_rose_athena: and we've shown nothing but by both word and action.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 07:49:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
alicia_burrfoot02 : disease and alls not just thru prostitution
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ red_rose_athena, in case you didn't notice, we're in a chat room. All a person sees is their English.
better_being_humble_like_jesus : some will live on yes
seraphina22 : If I have to explain that to you, you wouldn't understand anyway.
misfit_force_of_nature : laughs.
better_being_humble_like_jesus : i think maybe we are in hell right now
hunter_the_crazychick : red_rose_athena: note our lack of capslock, our ability to spell, and our odd habit of not inferring that which does not actually seem to be.
begs_to_be_sodomized : shup
urmom8me2 : na, hell can't be this fun
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ red_rose_athena. DICTIONARY. It's dyslexia.
hunter_the_crazychick : notes that dyslexia is NOT an excuse for an inability to spell.
hunter_the_crazychick : Hi there.
hunter_the_crazychick : Dyslexic here.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ And, actually, I am partially dyslexic, with numbers, particularly.
gremlin_net : username: red_rose_athena; idle: 9.24; filtred: 31 times.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ That is
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 07:50:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
urmom8me2 : hey, being dyslexic is fun, lol
zevnak : red rose, you dumb cunt maybe YOU should look it up it is Dyslexia
jmellonball : so who wants to lick my asshole
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ I don't care.
zevnak : oh kitty you are on my new list
hunter_the_crazychick : red_rose_athena: no. You use it as a crutch.
better_being_humble_like_jesus : unless we grow upand listen to ones with wisdom of christ /buddhawe keep being reborn to earth
claytablets20022002 : Who was it that said it's against the law to love but it's ok to hate
begs_to_be_sodomized : All the dyslexics I know, KNOW how to spell dyslexia
gremlin_net : Apparently, illiterate morons with CapsLocks get filtred. Cool....
hunter_the_crazychick : kitty: big problem with the numbers here too.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ I'm not making fun of anyone.
zevnak : dyslexics have no business near a keyboard
jmellonball : watch out for omsonator. He just told me he was gay
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Correcting a mispelling, unless done rudely, is not making fun. It's correcting.
better_being_humble_like_jesus : when we dolearn to heed their teachings we may leave this hell!!!
gremlin_net : Kitty: it can be both.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 07:51:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : Hey, red, I'M the one making fun, not kitty.
zevnak : oh kitty I cannot wait until your 18th birthday
osmondator : watch out for jmellonball. he bites while he is sucking cock
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Hunter- the ironic bit is, I
better_being_humble_like_jesus : its a hell thatwe create for ourselves and for others!!
hunter_the_crazychick : kitty: I learned to hate it.
urmom8me2 : u need help
better_being_humble_like_jesus : our minds create negativity
alicia_burrfoot02 : hes just popped out to get some
urmom8me2 : no u do
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Yes grem, it can. But in this case, it was friendly until she said I was being mean.
hunter_the_crazychick : kitty: I went more for the sciences that let me cut things open.
osmondator : I want to cause a piece of racket
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Hunter- I love it :X
better_being_humble_like_jesus : negativity i think is the creator of hell!!!
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 07:52:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : Oh, and writing. I used to do that a lot. Loved the english classes.
urmom8me2 : I tihnk u created hell
begs_to_be_sodomized : giggles
osmondator : you are all fuckers
deadman_932 : hah! jo, you gave me a ypager error like i did to you!
begs_to_be_sodomized : osmondator: Thank you.
seraphina22 : There is no Hell. Hell is the grave.
better_being_humble_like_jesus : we cannot control or change the past
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ But it's kind of interesting- someone will ask me a number, and I'll repeat it all messed up. But I have weird associations as well.
deadman_932 : +alley:x
gremlin_net : Hell was created as a marketing tactic. The 'believe or don't' rap was failing.
begs_to_be_sodomized : Joseph: Vendetta B-)
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ I do too, hunter.
suicyde_alley : Joseph:X
deadman_932 : so it is, josephine...you will sleep with the fishes, mon cher
hunter_the_crazychick : red_rose_athena: I think you're confusing us all now. And that's not a symptom of dyslexia. That's a larger mental problem. I know a bit about dyslexia, and I know that it has nothing to do with coming across like a fucking retard. Stop using it as a crutch and LEARN.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 07:53:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
better_being_humble_like_jesus : but we can change how we percieve the present and the future.......that is ourpersonal WILL
hunter_the_crazychick : Hold the fucking book upside down, and read last page to first if you must.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Zevnak- keep dreaming. 16, 18, or 98, I wouldn't fuck you if I was dead and in hell.
begs_to_be_sodomized : But good thing. Needed to turn off my cam before I did something stupid like dance on it.
deadman_932 : byee, alicia!
urmom8me2 : marketing? really, never thought that... maybe because it sounds stupid
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ lol alcy
begs_to_be_sodomized : Ka kite, alicia_burrfoot02
alicia_burrfoot02 : im not goin
osmondator : your welcome sodomize
alicia_burrfoot02 : hahaha
alicia_burrfoot02 : she said she was leavin
gremlin_net : urmom8me2: it is stupid. But it was the reason.
jmellonball : Hunter just told me he like to suck cock. Watch out for that gay fruit
Atheist_Dictator : ymlite
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : is young
deadman_932 : jo...okay, send me another invite and let's try that
zevnak : kitty dont worry when we meet in person I will be charming and will use another name and not until you are in the throes of orgasm will I tell you who I am
zevnak : imagine your shock anddisgust
red_rose_athena : OH SHIT
hunter_the_crazychick : jmellonball: 1. No I didn't. 2. I'm female, you FUCKING DUMBASS.
hunter_the_crazychick : red_rose_athena: Hi. I'm 22.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 07:54:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
begs_to_be_sodomized : Joe: Nope. I leave it off now. I'm getting ready for bed. (stripping)
gremlin_net : jmellonball: here's your shirt: http://troll.grem.tv
zombie_wants_you_dead : Dammit.
hunter_the_crazychick : looks at zombie.
deadman_932 : gah, damn
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ As I said, keep dreaming.
begs_to_be_sodomized : damn I look gold. you *have* to see this
deadman_932 : ah, well, i have PICS< jo
urmom8me2 : for 1, call me Tabb, and for 2, I don't think it's a good reason for n e thing
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ red_rose_athena, you don't know what she looks like. Don't insult someone like that, it's rude.
Atheist_Dictator : ymlite
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ And ignorant, as well.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 07:55:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
seraphina22 : God...what's a person got to do to get a conversation going in here.
Atheist_Dictator : no prob
gremlin_net : urmom8me2: who said christians had good reasons for anything?
seraphina22 : I guess I have to say something controversial
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ seraphina22, what would you like to talk about?
seraphina22 : Something far out
hunter_the_crazychick : looks at zombie.
jebus14x : evolution
irrefragabilis : is away View My Webcam
seraphina22 : Well..I was hoping to get in a nice debate about the existence of God.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Been there done that.
urmom8me2 : hmm... good question, they're all weird if u ask me
gremlin_net : seraphina22: go ahead.
seraphina22 : I just thought..you know..judging by the name of the room and all..that it would be a good possibility.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Is there something specific?
claytablets20022002 : no one talks when there on I learned that much
better_being_humble_like_jesus : happiness/heaven/nirvana is a state of mind............christ/ buddha maybe a few others , is agreat guide towards this basic human goal
deadman_932 : thank you, josephine:X
begs_to_be_sodomized : haha funny angle
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 07:56:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : Zombie?
deadman_932 : hhmmmmm..if you stand on the table, i can do a gyno, hon
zombie_wants_you_dead : leeches onto Hunter's leg
hunter_the_crazychick : See me now?
deadman_932 : hey hunter
zombie_wants_you_dead : does.
hunter_the_crazychick : Dead.
hunter_the_crazychick : Yay.
begs_to_be_sodomized : haha!
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 07:57:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
alicia_burrfoot02 : java sux
begs_to_be_sodomized : woah.. server busy
hunter_the_crazychick : Nothing but contempt for who[m?]?
better_being_humble_like_jesus : repent the time is nighe
begs_to_be_sodomized : Did it boot you? hmm.
deadman_932 : oops, gotta put on another cd, jo...i got some spanish guitar set by almeida
deadman_932 : nope
barefoot_kiku : nighe?
better_being_humble_like_jesus : :D
deadman_932 : brb
begs_to_be_sodomized : its booted me
better_being_humble_like_jesus : lol
begs_to_be_sodomized : Spanish?!
hunter_the_crazychick : never quite learned the usage on 'who' and 'whom'....
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 07:58:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deadman_932 : yes, honey
deadman_932 : it's great
gremlin_net : Hunter: 'who' is a subject; 'whom' is a direct object.
barefoot_kiku : ohhhh
urmom8me2 : what does it matter
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: and if I'd learned that as a kid in school, I'd probably get it.
begs_to_be_sodomized : Whom is a pronoun and is an objective case of 'who"
zombie_wants_you_dead : . o O ( Who are you speaking of? Of whom do you speak? )
zombie_wants_you_dead : Or something.
hunter_the_crazychick : shrugs.
gremlin_net : Hunter: 'who gives what to whom'
barefoot_kiku : Wow, all this time I had it wrong! lol
urmom8me2 : freak
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 07:59:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
barefoot_kiku : gremlin yes i think it's sentences like that that confused me
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: so in the case of Nothing but contempt for...?
barefoot_kiku : to whom
better_being_humble_like_jesus : belief can instigate our reality!!
zombie_wants_you_dead : I think my fries are done.
urmom8me2 : freak
zombie_wants_you_dead : goes to see
seraphina22 : So..anyway
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Her attitude? I'd fuck alcy.
deadman_932 : one is paco de lucia, one is laurindo almeida, one is segovia, one is narciso yepez
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: remember, I stopped paying attention in basic English around fourth grade, when I noticed that the book covers changed colours, but the pages were all the same.
deadman_932 : good shtuff, punkin'
gremlin_net : Hunter: that's a fragment. It would be 'whom', because the subject is using Nothing.
hunter_the_crazychick : If I was bi, I'd do her.
better_being_humble_like_jesus : we control our reality by our positive and negative beliefs!!!
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : is sort of bi
begs_to_be_sodomized : "Who" is a pronoun and is what or which person or persons? The person or persons that. Etc.
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: alright.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:00:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Sort of. *laughs*
urmom8me2 : fiction, it's all fiction
begs_to_be_sodomized : Is red still ranting about me?
gremlin_net : Hunter '[X has] nothing but contempt for whom'
begs_to_be_sodomized : Its been like 2 fucking hours now.
better_being_humble_like_jesus : i say atheist are negative.........
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ red_rose_athena- I also know what she looks like. So it makes a difference. And I also happen to be fond of her.
hunter_the_crazychick : nods.
begs_to_be_sodomized : It should put itself out of its own misery and shoot itself.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Yep alcy. *laughs*
osmondator : sodomize is a fucking bastard
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: put the doctorate away, now, damnit....
irrefragabilis : is away View My Webcam
begs_to_be_sodomized : osmondator: And?
gremlin_net : Hunter: your fault; you asked.
urmom8me2 : I m not negative, I am a very optimistic person
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:01:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
better_being_humble_like_jesus : that is my personal sin........christ says in psalms
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: I know. I didn't expect to wake up the latent teacher, though.
gadgetfiend2002 : what does he say?
gremlin_net : Hunter: you didn't. I'm not awake yet.
osmondator : I am going to shove both your hands up your ass and make you walk on your elbows
better_being_humble_like_jesus : actually christ said it through solomon:">
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: I guess that's why....
begs_to_be_sodomized : osmondator: Wow, now, that coming over the internet, I'm sure you can envision my fear :))
hunter_the_crazychick : red_rose_athena: don't worry; we can't. People like you are uneducatable.
gremlin_net : giva: actually, christ evidently never existed to say anything.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:02:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Poisoned mind? Care to explain why my mind is poisoned?
better_being_humble_like_jesus : going clubbingB-)
better_being_humble_like_jesus : spread the word0:)
begs_to_be_sodomized : osmondator: You are nothing but a tiny tot let loose on a computer, with shit for brains, an ability to type, but I should ram my fists up your mothers cunt for allowing an abomination such as yourself to infestate my space.
bluejene : :O
seraphina22 : Excuse me..I'm sorry..did you just say..Jesus never existed?
better_being_humble_like_jesus : gremlin that is your belief
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:03:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
better_being_humble_like_jesus : i choose to trust
barefoot_kiku : Sometimes being a fundie looks like fun... I wonder if I should create a fundamentalist character and shout at people without having to worry about the bothers of answering questions and making actual conversation.
hunter_the_crazychick : giggles.
urmom8me2 : well, I'm tired now and still need to get layed=D>... so goodbye to u all. Hope you can all just realize that ur gay and get on with ur lives. (:|
gremlin_net : seraphina22: no. I said that, evidently, he never existed. Or, if you like, he never existed in fact.
begs_to_be_sodomized : Kitty: It thrives on conflict. It will engage you in a long list of diatribe, of it's own concoction.
gremlin_net : giva: I have no beliefs.
begs_to_be_sodomized : It's obssessive.
hunter_the_crazychick : Vulp just brought a funny picture to mind.
seraphina22 : I mean...I don't think that His existence has ever been in question. Its whether or not He was the Messiah that can't be proven by "fact", as you call it.
gadgetfiend2002 : gremlin: I cahallenge you to find eveidence of any specific person I name who lived 2000 years ago - just cos there's no evidence doesnt mean he never existed
gremlin_net : seraphina22: there's no evidence that the guy existed at all.
seraphina22 : *It's
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:04:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
better_being_humble_like_jesus : gremlin trust given wisely frees you to enjoy life
oooamaiooo : so that means many believe Jesus existed?
gremlin_net : oooamaiooo: pretty much.
misfit_force_of_nature : is away (Away)
tswonderwoman : Hi kids
seraphina22 : On the contrary, gremlin, there are plenty of records to prove it. Let's not forget, that wasn't all that long ago.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Sure alcy. But what else would I do? *laughs*
seraphina22 : Historically speaking
oooamaiooo : ok
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Morning ts
better_being_humble_like_jesus : cynicism can keep u safe but its a personal prison
begs_to_be_sodomized : Kitty: True-true hehe.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: you're asserting that this guy existed in fact, based on evidence?
better_being_humble_like_jesus : each totheir own i guess
seraphina22 : There is no question that he existed.
tswonderwoman : morning the kitty :) how aere you??
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:05:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
seraphina22 : Don't you watch the History channel?
barefoot_kiku : lmao @ the name 'freedom tickler'
gremlin_net : seraphina22: great. Provide evidence supporting your assertion that Y'shua existed in fact.
oooamaiooo : rev: where did you get that?
seraphina22 : Well..I don't personally have a copy of the records.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: is that a concession?
alicia_burrfoot02 : ya dont wanna believe everything ya read rev
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ red_rose_athena, the word is you're. It's a possessive and contraction for you and are.
hunter_the_crazychick : lives in a world realer than red_rose_athena's.
seraphina22 : Not at all
bluejene : ok.. back
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ ts- I'm fine, thanks. A bit sleepy. How are you?
gremlin_net : seraphina22: then it's not evidence. Strike One.
zombie_wants_you_dead : comes back with fries
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:06:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
begs_to_be_sodomized : 2am. Sleep, what is that?
zoran865 : You mean Jesus wasn't the son of God, led a sinless life, died on the cross for our sins, and rose from the dead????!!!!!!
seraphina22 : I can no more prove to you that Jesus..the man..existed than I can prove to you that Caesar did. But you don't question that, do you?
hunter_the_crazychick : Zombie: my mom's sending me a frydaddy with the iced tea maker.
hunter_the_crazychick : bounces.
tswonderwoman : feeling just fine and frisky..
gremlin_net : seraphina22: I'm not asserting that Caeser existed. Strawman. Strike Two.
oooamaiooo : who are the atheists here?
bluejene : lol
zombie_wants_you_dead : Frydaddys rock.
hunter_the_crazychick : She wanted to get rid of it coz' it boiled over on her or somethin'.
seraphina22 : Well anyway. I'm not going to argue about it.
oooamaiooo : how did Christianity came about then?
gremlin_net : seraphina22: then you concede.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:07:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
zevnak : cochina
begs_to_be_sodomized : Where the fuck do you Christians come from? Really? What schools did you attend, that I would shoot them for not explaining the differences of "fact" and "fantasy"?
hunter_the_crazychick : had to promise not to leave it running unattended.
begs_to_be_sodomized : Be thankful. I'm more brusque with wiccans.
oooamaiooo : (:|
seraphina22 : If ceasing to argue even though I still disagree is conceding..then yes..in that sense..I concede. Pick up the cards, you win.
better_being_humble_like_jesus : fyre we come from god
zombie_wants_you_dead : Hunter: Good idea.
revspecies116 : oooama, I'm Atheist
better_being_humble_like_jesus : we dont give upon what we know is right
gremlin_net : seraphina22 concedes that christ never existed in fact. We won't expect any more assertions to that effect.
hunter_the_crazychick : Zombie: I wouldn't want to leave fries going unattended. That sounds kinda stupid.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:08:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
oooamaiooo : amai please
better_being_humble_like_jesus : wedont let painhurtust more than it does
hunter_the_crazychick : I mean, I understand not attending them in the oven. But oil + heat = potential fire.
zombie_wants_you_dead : Hunter: Ayup.
oooamaiooo : what are your proofs?
hunter_the_crazychick : Not a good thing to leave unattended.
misfit_force_of_nature : is back
misfit_force_of_nature : Amai, what's your name mean, out of curiosity? Arai wa eigo de nani desu ka?
gremlin_net : oooamaiooo: proofs of what?
oooamaiooo : that Jesus never existed
begs_to_be_sodomized : Amai is a Maori Word. Hmm.
tswonderwoman : sorry rev, we're lagged.
bluejene : lol rev.. go on
oooamaiooo : maori word?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:09:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
bluejene : it's a painting
tas_burrfoot02 : Wow mary youve birthed the son of good right here in this manger, now clean yaslef up we need to nick down to the local prelates office and register him with the romans
gremlin_net : oooamaiooo: there's no need to disprove the unproved. Without evidence that he existed, he remains mythical.
better_being_humble_like_jesus : we feel as muchPAIN AS U but we do not let it change us into wickedness
red_rose_athena : BYE
alicia_burrfoot02 : lol
tswonderwoman : blue , jesus is a greek spelling for Yeshua.. or , joshuah
begs_to_be_sodomized : Though this person is no maori.
begs_to_be_sodomized : No humour, derision, scorn or fight.
hunter_the_crazychick : Don't talk to Joshie. He's a pusher. He'll get you hooked on scary things.
bluejene : ok.. tons of those around.. lol
zevnak : Freedom the name is Yehoshuah NOT yeshua
better_being_humble_like_jesus : we have the strength to love and t rust
barefoot_kiku : rev god must have melded them somehow. :))
misfit_force_of_nature : hunter_the_crazychick, I gots yaoi! ^_^
bluejene : yes, rev
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:10:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : wraps her arms around and rocks back and forth, drooling and muttering about 'bondage faeries'
tswonderwoman : zev, im sorry, i was trying to spell it the way it sounds, since i cant seem toget into voice chat
tswonderwoman : zev, but youre correct
barefoot_kiku : bondage fairies!!!
barefoot_kiku : :D
hunter_the_crazychick : twitches.
misfit_force_of_nature : barefoot_kiku, kekekeke.
barefoot_kiku : <---draws catgirls often
hunter_the_crazychick : And now that I know what yaoi means [I ran across it in my search for fanfic terms], I'm frightened.
bluejene : lol mornin ts
misfit_force_of_nature : barefoot_kiku, /really?/
alicia_burrfoot02 : scuse me misfit?
oooamaiooo : yaoi? ^^
barefoot_kiku : aw hunter
barefoot_kiku : yes misfit!
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:11:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
oooamaiooo : haha...
misfit_force_of_nature : barefoot_kiku, you good at it? >o.o<
better_being_humble_like_jesus : many ofyou im sure were hurt as a kid
better_being_humble_like_jesus : i was too
misfit_force_of_nature : draws tasteful, badly done, hentai.
barefoot_kiku : misfit other people say so... *shrug*
seraphina22 : Ok..so..just so I can get an idea of what I'm dealing with here..can we take a roll call? Everybody profess your beliefs in one word???
gremlin_net : giva: I wasn't.
barefoot_kiku : aw misfit lol
misfit_force_of_nature : 'cept for that one with the carrots....
bluejene : brb baby wants her kermit shows
gremlin_net : seraphina22: nullifidian.
barefoot_kiku : carrots! lol
better_being_humble_like_jesus : felt unloved etc abused
seraphina22 : What the hell is that?
hunter_the_crazychick : kiku: don't mind me, really. I'm awfully not sane already, and most of the stuff Joshie's led me to hasn't gotten NEARLY the eye-bleeding reaction as most fanfiction has.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: look it up; you wanted one word.
misfit_force_of_nature : barefoot_kiku, if you show me yours, I might show you mine?
zombie_wants_you_dead : . o O ( Garfield slash.. )
misfit_force_of_nature : hunter_the_crazychick, Agent Smith was hot, I want the rest of that one. >^.^<
better_being_humble_like_jesus : sometimes humans make mistakes.............without the intent to harm
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:12:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : suffers.
begs_to_be_sodomized : Nonenity.
misfit_force_of_nature : Zombie, you kid, surely.
hunter_the_crazychick : Sorry.
gremlin_net : giva: so christianity might be an innocent mistake?
nadia_peru_40 : comes from liberal disfuctional families
better_being_humble_like_jesus : sometimes they ignore the harm
barefoot_kiku : misfit sure!
seraphina22 : Well it's not worth all that
hunter_the_crazychick : tries to breathe.
begs_to_be_sodomized : *nonentity too
alicia_burrfoot02 : <<<
zevnak : xtianity is not an innocent mistake it is an intentional mistake
misfit_force_of_nature : hunter_the_crazychick, some of the later BF involve mousies and bats. >o.o< *sober look*
better_being_humble_like_jesus : how many of youhere now is carrying the wickedness of the past
tas_burrfoot02 : ive never seen a mexican but i hear they are out there too
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : looks at Joshie
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:13:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : 's eyes widen.
begs_to_be_sodomized : Hello, Matt
irrefragabilis : is away View My Webcam
begs_to_be_sodomized : What is wrong with voice?
seraphina22 : Something that has influenced the world more than any other single thing in the history of the planet..cannot be an "innocent mistake." Either it is real..or it was created by an evil force to lead us astray.
athenian_man_of_rapture : hi
better_being_humble_like_jesus : zevnak god judges by heart
barefoot_kiku : I'm not sure how though... I dont have any online and I'm not at my own computer :p
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Incorrect, seraphina22.
misfit_force_of_nature : Oh damnation.
better_being_humble_like_jesus : he says so
gremlin_net : I may need a nap after all this effort. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=nullifidian
alicia_burrfoot02 : yes wonderwoman
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ lol grem
begs_to_be_sodomized : Fallacy, Appeal to Belief and Appeal to Ignorance, seraphina22
hunter_the_crazychick : Joshie: I'll have to find them.
tswonderwoman : thanks raymond burrfoot.
barefoot_kiku : I'm thinking about joining www.deviantart.com though
misfit_force_of_nature : hunter_the_crazychick, Samantha burnt a few of them to disc for me.
tswonderwoman : :)
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:14:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
seraphina22 : Anyway
misfit_force_of_nature : barefoot_kiku, OooOooo, they're nifty.
barefoot_kiku : but it looks addictive >:)
gremlin_net : seraphina22: without evidence that it's real, we'll have to go with the second option.
seraphina22 : Come again?
misfit_force_of_nature : If you're planning on doing that, there's no way you getta' see me, what with you having skill and all.
zoran865 : Many people are scared of dying, so it is not surprising that they would latch on to Christianity.
better_being_humble_like_jesus : becoming wicked like those that hurt youis letting satan win
misfit_force_of_nature : mine, rather.
barefoot_kiku : misfit :(
oooamaiooo : youis?
seraphina22 : Well..that's certainly your right to choose
Atheist_Dictator : Here is another one that has voice... http://www.zakie.fsnet.co.uk/messy/index.htm
better_being_humble_like_jesus : letting pain manifest in yourself andothers
Atheist_Dictator : haven't tried it though
seraphina22 : You should give it a try though. Real or not..it feels GREAT.
Atheist_Dictator : anything is better than Messenger, though
misfit_force_of_nature : barefoot_kiku, I've only been drawing for a little over a year. Heh.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:15:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gremlin_net : seraphina22: the problem is that you limited us to two possibilities, one of which was clearly incorrect.
zoran865 : So accepting Christ into your heart feels great?
seraphina22 : Obviously.
better_being_humble_like_jesus : thats why i say evildoers are weak
hunter_the_crazychick : notes that if she ever manages to get back to the point where she can draw again, it's going to be scary.
barefoot_kiku : misfit I don't know, after some of the stuff I've seen online, I don't think ANYthing will look bad to me
barefoot_kiku : :p
misfit_force_of_nature : barefoot_kiku, http://koneko.konekodesign.com/image.php?tier=hentai&title=Sakura%20(cherry) Though I'm kind of proud of this one, waist up at least.
better_being_humble_like_jesus : many want power because of insecurity
hunter_the_crazychick : I hope they don't invent ways to project mental pictures onto harddrives before that.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: real or not it feels great? What are your thoughts on heroin?
tas_burrfoot02 : do you exist?
zombie_wants_you_dead : How come I can't see Joshie anymore? :|
tas_burrfoot02 : how do i know
lissianthus : omg, if hunter can draw what's in her mind?...... yikes
tswonderwoman : humble like jeebus, is evildoers one word or two?
tas_burrfoot02 : you could be
alicia_burrfoot02 : regardles of anything u say people will belive what they want anyway
barefoot_kiku : *clicks*
tas_burrfoot02 : perception is reality
seraphina22 : Well..Zoran..not just that, necessarily. And I'm not just limiting it to Christianity..but belief in a higher power and an after life gives hope and meaning to an otherwise worthless life.
hunter_the_crazychick : smiles at liss.
better_being_humble_like_jesus : its great tohavepoer but use it positively
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:16:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
barefoot_kiku : It's not showing up for me :(
better_being_humble_like_jesus : help not hinder
misfit_force_of_nature : Hunter, ahem. "I have to pee."
gremlin_net : seraphina22: you should give heroin a try; real or not, it feels great.
gremlin_net : seraphina22 is a pusher.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ 'You should give it a try though. Real or not..it feels GREAT.' :))
hunter_the_crazychick : dies.
lissianthus : i dont have a worthless life, seraphina22
tswonderwoman : poer?? :|
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ That's one for the record books.
seraphina22 : I've tried the drug scene. It didn't do the trick for me.
zoran865 : Why do you think that life would otherwise be worthless
alicia_burrfoot02 : tis not healthy to have a closed mind [-(
tas_burrfoot02 : you might just be a mental fear of mine of being emaculated
revspecies116 : okies:)
seraphina22 : I never said you did, Lissianthus.
alicia_burrfoot02 : lol
bluejene : k
zoran865 : I don't believe in any deities and my life is far from worthless.
better_being_humble_like_jesus : its uptous to stop the manifestation of evil/sin/negativity
lissianthus : then open yours, alicia_burrfoot02
hunter_the_crazychick : Joshie: i'm still oddly attracted to the leopardprint catgirl at the end of C.D.1
gremlin_net : seraphina22: so drugs lead to heavier vises, like christianity?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:17:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
seraphina22 : No..that's now quite how it went, Gremlin.
alicia_burrfoot02 : mines more open than you would ever know lissian
misfit_force_of_nature : I actually haven't seen the first one. Samantha only sent 3 and 6. ; _ ;
hunter_the_crazychick : Joshie: Just a minute.....
begs_to_be_sodomized : revspecies116: Where in auckland are you?
seraphina22 : *not quite
lissianthus : so if your life is worthless, try god? what about those who 'have' god, and still have worthless lives?
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ seraphina22... I'm happy with my life as it is. I do not crave greater meaning than I have. Tell me again why I should believe in a deity which I have never even
begs_to_be_sodomized : I know it, Rev.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: bear in mind that a number of people here have tried the christian scene; and it didn't do the trick for them.
begs_to_be_sodomized : hahah would help
irrefragabilis : is away View My Webcam
barefoot_kiku : how many nonreligions are there?
tas_burrfoot02 : i dont know theres alot of boy scouts about
alicia_burrfoot02 : did I say my life was worthless?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:18:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
sara2smile2 : How many other "non religions" are there?
lissianthus : i didtn say you did
gremlin_net : barefoot_kiku: you mean, like, how many things aren't religions?
lissianthus : i was talking to seraphina22 on that one
sara2smile2 : lol sorry barefoot, just saw your question
barefoot_kiku : sara :p
lissianthus : you're so vaaaain, , i'll bet you think that post was about you bout you bout you
begs_to_be_sodomized : Glenfield is a nice area.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : laughs at lissi
lissianthus : sorry, made me think of that song
begs_to_be_sodomized : It's quiet.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:19:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
tswonderwoman : If athiesm were a religion I would be a Seven Day Athiest.
begs_to_be_sodomized : damn, nice
lissianthus : ha ts!
begs_to_be_sodomized : I love Takapuna
begs_to_be_sodomized : Shore City haha
sara2smile2 : way to go in That contest of one;)
better_being_humble_like_jesus : bye:D
begs_to_be_sodomized : islanders
gremlin_net : lissianthus: actually, when I see a post which isn't directed to someone specific, it's a judgment call.
tswonderwoman : Athiest Orthodox..
seraphina22 : Ok....everybody's gaining up on me here. Now what is it that I have said that was so wrong, in summary?
begs_to_be_sodomized : last time I was there, there were islanders all over the place
begs_to_be_sodomized : long bay.. been there.
hunter_the_crazychick : JOshie: know of a good media player that allows for frame by frame?
barefoot_kiku : CAN there be other non-religions? I mean, maybe I'm exposing my ignorance, but if you don't believe in religion or deities... aren't you athiest?
lissianthus : grem, that post wasnt to you :))
barefoot_kiku : atheist, even
begs_to_be_sodomized : Kiwis unite! haha
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:20:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
tswonderwoman : Full Fucking Gospel Long beach Church of Ye Olde' Athiesm.. (servives daily, with signs and wonders to come )
begs_to_be_sodomized : Cape Reinga haha
misfit_force_of_nature : barefoot_kiku, if you don't even at least comment, as one of those artists with "talent," I'm going to be terribly hurt. >O.o<
begs_to_be_sodomized : if I spelt that right
revspecies116 : :)
athenian_man_of_rapture : jo 2 do that u would surly have to support the allm blacks
alicia_burrfoot02 : well bye all
lissianthus : barefoot_kiku , athEIsm isnt a relgion
lissianthus : bye alicia_burrfoot02
tswonderwoman : bye alicia
barefoot_kiku : misfit maybe you missed it I said I couldnt get it to load
barefoot_kiku : lissian agreed
gremlin_net : seraphina22: you baselessly asserted that deities existed; you baselessly asserted that christ existed in history; and you begged the question of a single word describing the beliefs of those who have no beliefs. So far.
misfit_force_of_nature : misses plenty.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:21:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
misfit_force_of_nature : barefoot_kiku, http://koneko.konekodesign.com/?tier=hentai doesn't work for you? >O.o<
seraphina22 : Thanks for clearing that up, Gremlin.
lissianthus : heh
barefoot_kiku : Oh no I meant the first link, i guess i'm the one who missed something lol
lissianthus : grem can clear up anything
gremlin_net : lissianthus: I thought it would be nice and ironic to assume that a post castigating some anonymous subject for vanity was mine >:)
lissianthus : oh
seraphina22 : Oh the irony
lissianthus : so you admit to being vain?
lissianthus : hehe
gremlin_net : lissianthus: no. I admit to being ironical >:)
begs_to_be_sodomized : Aucland is built on volcanoes
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:22:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
lissianthus : ok
begs_to_be_sodomized : *Auckland
begs_to_be_sodomized : hahahaha
barefoot_kiku : so it's NOT possible to have any other non-religion. ...?
begs_to_be_sodomized : Rongitoto?
begs_to_be_sodomized : White Island is my maunga
begs_to_be_sodomized : Te Wheke
begs_to_be_sodomized : Yup
gremlin_net : barefoot_kiku: you question doesn't make sense. I've got a car; it's not a religion.
begs_to_be_sodomized : yup haha
lissianthus : man, am dogsitting the granddog, who got into the superburrito doggie bag while daughter was in a store last nite.
gremlin_net : your*
begs_to_be_sodomized : Instead, Rotorua is taking the heat
begs_to_be_sodomized : I was last at Reupehu about 6 years ago
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:23:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
begs_to_be_sodomized : It's blowing
begs_to_be_sodomized : yes
begs_to_be_sodomized : Yes
begs_to_be_sodomized : Cold
seraphina22 : Now..let me just say..I have lived the life of disbelief..totally denouncing the existence of God..and I have obviously lived the alternative.
tswonderwoman : Geezer Eruptions??? Shall I grab a kleenex?
barefoot_kiku : gremlin I'm just trying to understand what rev was saying. If he says its the fastest growing non religion, what is he comparing it to?
begs_to_be_sodomized : I'm doing my degree there haha
barefoot_kiku : misfit you did all these?
irrefragabilis : WW :)
lissianthus : he has the worst bean gas. must be what it would be like having munk in the house after a taco bell run
hunter_the_crazychick : Fuck it.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: I've lived neither.
hunter_the_crazychick : loads up premier.
misfit_force_of_nature : barefoot_kiku, mmyeps. >o.o<
tswonderwoman : Dusty :)
barefoot_kiku : :D
begs_to_be_sodomized : Don't tell them THAT!
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Morning Dusty
irrefragabilis : Kitty :)
begs_to_be_sodomized : Don't want them HERE
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:24:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
misfit_force_of_nature : barefoot_kiku, I'm starting from scratch with manga though, so there won't be any new ones for a while.
irrefragabilis : I've been up since 6
seraphina22 : Now I can honestly say that I cannot blame anyone for not believing who has not had supernatural experiences..miracles.
shroomme2000 : what's the topic in the room now?
tswonderwoman : I think Id like NZ.. :)
irrefragabilis : :|
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ I've been up since 9.
lissianthus : whats a miracle, seraphina22 ?
irrefragabilis : You are a doodoohead
barefoot_kiku : misfit I like Barruku best
lissianthus : to me a miracle isnt one person being cured mysteriously of cancer, its ALL people being cured of cancer
seraphina22 : Well...I guess a miracle is in the eye of the beholder. But I believe that it is something that happens that isn't thought possible.
misfit_force_of_nature : barefoot_kiku, the somewhat golden looking catgirl?
hunter_the_crazychick : Grr.
irrefragabilis : Hot
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:25:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
shroomme2000 : what kind of proof would it take to get non-believers to believe in God?
barefoot_kiku : yes!
misfit_force_of_nature : barefoot_kiku, shame I messed up her face, the body's decent enough.
seraphina22 : But not only that..but actualy supernatural experiences.
seraphina22 : *actual
lissianthus : wonder if your god flips a coin when he's doling out miracles
barefoot_kiku : yes it is! lol
gremlin_net : seraphina22: that made a lot of sense, actually. Belief is known to be the result of temporal lobe epilepsy, in which the observation of the unexplained is inferred to be evidence of deities.
athenian_man_of_rapture : jo do u know anything about marine micro biology
irrefragabilis : I have to shower and do stuff
tswonderwoman : alcy, but Asians domminate the world.. especialy in asia, where you are. :))
seraphina22 : Miracles are there for anybody who believes in them.
lissianthus : exactly
shroomme2000 : ok!
lissianthus : if you believe, then its real
gremlin_net : seraphina22: right. And the people who believe in them have a form of schizophrenia.
tswonderwoman : bye lis :)
lissianthus : bye ts
harleymov : that's bullshit gremlin
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:26:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
barefoot_kiku : number one If they believed in God they wouldn't be atheists anymore ^_^
shroomme2000 : that's cool!!
seraphina22 : So basically..what you're saying here Gremlin..is that you've never experienced any of it.
gremlin_net : harleymov: pity it's catalogued as fact, then.
seraphina22 : ??
irrefragabilis : I smell bad
gremlin_net : seraphina22: right. I lack the chemistry for it.
seraphina22 : I don't think it's chemistry you're lacking.
irrefragabilis : hot sit still
lissianthus : oh boy
tswonderwoman : China is CRAWLING with asians.
harleymov : what you say is just a vibration of your vocal cords
irrefragabilis : WW :))
hotvegasman : dusty my yahoo fucked up
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Nah, ts, ya think?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:27:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
irrefragabilis : poor hot :(
lissianthus : mornin hotvegasman
hotvegasman : lissi mornin
gremlin_net : seraphina22: that's not up to you. You don't get to vote on it. If you feel qualified to disprove it, go grab a few PhDs and find a flaw in the fact.
hotvegasman : kitty
hotvegasman : pyro
shroomme2000 : let me ask this then, If an athiests will never believe in God, then why debate his existance?
barefoot_kiku : to ridicule those that do shroomme?
seraphina22 : Well I'm just qualified to say that as you are to say Jesus..the man..never existed.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ shroomme- who said they would
revspecies116 : yep, that still happens
misfit_force_of_nature : would believe in God, were there any good reason to do so.
seraphina22 : *just as qualified
misfit_force_of_nature : comes here mostly because the people are nice. <_<
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:28:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
misfit_force_of_nature : pets Kitty some.
revspecies116 : Shroomme, I'm not here to do that
begs_to_be_sodomized : Hotman.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Yep Joshie me too. And I do like debating religion and such.
revspecies116 : I'm here to talk to other atheists
lissianthus : doesnt see shroomme
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : purrs and stretches
lissianthus : tisk
shroomme2000 : kitty rev said that over the speakers!!
gremlin_net : shroomme2000: that's kinda begging the question. Debates are the exchange of evidence. Belief is the pertention that a condition is true, despite the lack of supporting evidence. I don't believe in anything. I don't believe in my laptop; I accept that it exists, due to the evidence of its existence.
lissianthus : mornin animus
scream_reaver : hi liss
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ shroomme, so one person denotes what all others believe? I think not.
tswonderwoman : alcy I agree there.. if they didnt strangle thier baby girls they would have wives of thier oown.. but, Oz, and NZ, compared to the rest of asia is a fucking paradise.. if i lived in china, id fucking swim to Oz.
lissianthus : hey, was it you that lives in san francisco animus?
scream_reaver : nope, I'm in PA
lissianthus : oh
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:29:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
teria_coyote : good morning
gremlin_net : seraphina22: the difference is that Jesus hasn't been proved to have existed. Theism has been proved to be a form of schizophrenia.
athenian_man_of_rapture : sure
lissianthus : good morning teria_coyote
seraphina22 : Proven
barefoot_kiku : bai-bai all!
shroomme2000 : sorry kitty!!
gremlin_net : seraphina22: proved.
lissianthus : by who, grem?
gremlin_net : Duhmericans....
begs_to_be_sodomized : they found the cause of sars
gremlin_net : lissianthus: Persinger.
begs_to_be_sodomized : and still, no chairmanmikey
misfit_force_of_nature : scoots off.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:30:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
lissianthus : anyone seen tweek lately?
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Don't apoligize. Just don't do it again.
tswonderwoman : china refuses to alow any HIV stats to be gathered..they still say that HIV is an evil problem of the decadent capitalist countries... like the us, and ummm hati, and I guess nigeria.
lissianthus : i havent, and hoping she didnt get sars
athenian_man_of_rapture : but that is a bonus
seraphina22 : So, gremlin...It's safe to say then, that you've never experienced the "Holy Ghost" phenomenon. Is that correct?
hunter_the_crazychick : gapes.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ ts, I'm sure there's an actual reason for it.
harleymov : logic is incomplete--why try to reduce everything to what can be explained logically? Belief in God is reasonable but not proveable...thand god
gremlin_net : seraphina22: not firsthand.
hunter_the_crazychick : I grab the screenshot; i paste the screenshot. I *save* the screenshot, and the catgirl disappears from the image.
seraphina22 : Well, trust me when I tell you, it has a way of making a believer out of ANYBODY.
lissianthus : hunter, da debil!
gremlin_net : seraphina22: I've observed other people succumbing to it.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:31:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
seraphina22 : Now when you witness it, you think..Nuts. Crazy.
lissianthus : no shit ?
seraphina22 : But when you EXPERIENCE it..you're like. "Holy shit."
gremlin_net : seraphina22: there again, I'm physiologically incapable of experiencing it.
lissianthus : man, what people can talk themselves into...
scream_reaver : I hate to see good minds go to waste..
zoran865 : Well if God cannot be explained logically, then it would also be reasonable not to believe in such.
lissianthus : right,zoran
tswonderwoman : does anyone know any good american jokes?? like How many americans does it take to change a light bulb... why did the american crossthe road.. that kind of stuf..
seraphina22 : No..you are spiritually incapable.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:32:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
tswonderwoman : damn,
gremlin_net : seraphina22: spirits dont' exist in fact.
zoran865 : cool lissian
harleymov : logic and reason are not the same thing
begs_to_be_sodomized : which for a communist country, would make them happy ha
gremlin_net : don't*
lissianthus : ts, did you say goodbye to me earlier? musta been someone else
zedechiah_the_messiah : its ok Serphina. Theres really no reason to ascibe happy feelings to some ghost.
begs_to_be_sodomized : I don't know any American jokes.
seraphina22 : Not just "some ghost"
lissianthus : mornin zed, did the babe sleep all nite?
zedechiah_the_messiah : humans are emotional animals. emotions dont come from some nether region
begs_to_be_sodomized : I know one that a hillbilly told me
gremlin_net : Not just some ghost: Casper, the Friendly Ghost!
scream_reaver : would a "holy shit" be in the shape of a crucifix?
seraphina22 : And I guess that was just poor interpretation..It's more often referred to as the "Holy Spirit"
zedechiah_the_messiah : Liss, hes sleeping like a son og a gun. asleep at 10 last night got up at 5.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:33:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
lissianthus : ha animus!
begs_to_be_sodomized : But I'm not sure it's American.
hotvegasman : wonder we have blond jokes no need for american jokes
tswonderwoman : two hard yanks and the bra comes right off.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: at street level. In scientific circles, it's referred to as temporal lobe epilepsy.
seraphina22 : Now, let me tell you..Before I experienced it..I thought it was the most perfect example of insanity I had ever seen.
scream_reaver : two hard drinks does the same thing ;)
lissianthus : ts, my hands wont do the bra from behind my back anymore
gremlin_net : seraphina22: there are more perfect insanities.
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraphina. right. But thats archaic superstition. ghosts/spirits dont bring emotion to people. they already have that capability
lissianthus : gotta do it all the 'old lady way' these days
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:34:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
seraphina22 : Gremlin...Why do you persecute it so? Let go, Gremlin. Embrace it.
lissianthus : oh gag, seraphina22
tswonderwoman : lissi, front hooks, my dear
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : laughs
gremlin_net : Zed: moreover, we know what actually causes emotions now.
hotvegasman : lissi what the tits got so big you cant reach around anymore
zedechiah_the_messiah : magic?
zedechiah_the_messiah : no, wait!
scream_reaver : only wants to embrace his bed... but can't :((
harleymov : what causes emotions?
lissianthus : no hotvegasman , the hands wont work as well
seraphina22 : That's the thing about you atheists..You can't just "not believe"..You have to try to ruin it for everybody else.
zedechiah_the_messiah : thats right. biochemistry
lissianthus : cripes, seraphina22
gremlin_net : seraphina22: embrace what? The fact that theism is a form of schizophrenia? I've already accepted that fact.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:35:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraphina, hahaha. theres nothing wrong with thinking rationally
scream_reaver : that's funny coming from a religion that has to constantly advertise...
harleymov : 'biochemistry' is not an answer
lissianthus : was a believer for over 30 years, till i started looking for proof
tswonderwoman : Im a big front hook fan. No need to slide it around.. causing brush brun.
lissianthus : no shit animus!
zedechiah_the_messiah : "i have a happy feeling, therefore there is a holy spirit" just doesnt work, Seraph
lovecrafthp2001 : lol
hunter_the_crazychick : I really need to get photoshop back on this machine.
zedechiah_the_messiah : laughs @ Harley
scream_reaver : they just can't 'believe' but have to ruin it for everyone else ;)
zedechiah_the_messiah : yes. biochemistry IS an answer
seraphina22 : Well..that's not what I'm talking about. Ok..you've gone and done it. Now I have to tell you my story.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: so you can't just 'not believe' in Al'lah? Or drugs? Or homosexual marriages? Or any other thing you protest at best and kill for at worst?
begs_to_be_sodomized : :O
hotvegasman : sera if i claimed to have a 10 inch penis but you knew it was only 3 inches wouldnt you warn women
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:36:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
zoran865 : zed - that's usually the "evidence" I hear from Christians
lissianthus : gitum grem
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, please. This is not a testimonial room.
harleymov : it's the material, examinable, measurable aspect of a larger phenomenon
seraphina22 : Well this isn't a testimony
seraphina22 : Asshole
lissianthus : hehehe
lissianthus : lets let her tell her story
irrefragabilis : is away View My Webcam
lissianthus : like the kind atheists we all are
zedechiah_the_messiah : Now I have to tell you my story. = testimony, you douchebag
begs_to_be_sodomized : Biologists grow the best marijuana
harleymov : you miss the point entirely when you reduce everything to mechanical processes
revspecies116 : indeed
scream_reaver : yes, I need some sleep...
begs_to_be_sodomized : Algae poison
revspecies116 : yep
begs_to_be_sodomized : Algae poisoning
hotvegasman : kitty my view on the bible mostly crap
seraphina22 : A few years ago..I was going to a church (with a boyfriend) where people were frequently having these experiences that I thought was hogwash
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:37:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
lissianthus : so you take myth over mechanics, harley?
seraphina22 : Speaking in tongues..falling over..etc. etc.
begs_to_be_sodomized : we had that, huh, Rev Species.
harleymov : they do not EXPLAIN anything
lissianthus : oh boy
lissianthus : either do myths, harley
gremlin_net : seraphina22: when all evidence of christians burning people at the stake evaporates, and when christian terrorists stop killing doctors over abortions, and when christian terrorists finally shut the bloody fuck up about everyone who isn't dressed as bady as they are going to hell, I'll care what you think of atheists being opposed to the existence of this paranoid delusion.
harleymov : what myths?
harleymov : be specific
gremlin_net : badly*
zedechiah_the_messiah : Harley, no i dont. I wouldnt want to make a fallacy of composition. But the bottom line is still biochemistry. emotions dont come from some outside source. external stimuli may trigger biochemical responses, but are not the source
seraphina22 : So one night I'm there..and I'm thinking..This is fucking crazy. Why would anybody want to act this way? So I say.."God..if you're up there..and you can hear me..and this shit is real..Let me feel it."
hunter_the_crazychick : WILL get a screenshot of this thing.
lissianthus : god, devils,spirits
scream_reaver : and she had an orgasm...
harleymov : that is a circular explanation
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:38:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
revspecies116 : we did, sodomise
lissianthus : aint it tho, harley?
zedechiah_the_messiah : Harley, ok. show it
celticbeauty88 : ohh and you shook and god spoke to you right...
harleymov : show what?
gremlin_net : suddenly remembers the twit in Real Genius shouting 'Okay, Jesus: lemee have it' an instant before the popcorn 'miracle'
hotvegasman : seraph so you came in church
zedechiah_the_messiah : oh jeeez.
lissianthus : youuuuu, shook me aaaaaaaaall nite looooong
seraphina22 : So...anyway...to make a long story short..I'm up front...Preacher stands in front of me..speaks in tongues..the next thing I know..I"m overcome with this electrical feeling and I fall over backwards and hit the floor
zedechiah_the_messiah : Liss has been listening to Zeppelin!
seraphina22 : I didn't know what the hell happened..I was like "Holy Shit"
lissianthus : wasnt that ac/dc?
seraphina22 : !!!!!
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:39:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
zedechiah_the_messiah : oh. yeah. they had one too
gremlin_net : seraphina22: probably low blood sugar mixed against adrenal shock.
lissianthus : stun gun, seraphina22
celticbeauty88 : lol
harleymov : miracles are a red herring
scream_reaver : joy buzzers in the pews ;)
zoran865 : Well that's proof of God, sera!
lissianthus : right animus
harleymov : an abrogation of gods laws (physics)
lissianthus : harley is nuts
scream_reaver : I once got shocked by a lamp... I uess god exists...
seraphina22 : It's proof of something..because you guys can attribute it to anything you want..but I used to be a skeptic too..and I know what I felt that day.
scream_reaver : guess*
tswonderwoman : mmm toad liquers.
hotvegasman : wonders if they poured holy water on her shoes
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : jumps for joy
seraphina22 : It was the most profound experience I've ever had..It completely changed my life.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: go out to your front yard and spin around for an hour; see if you meet Quetzalcoatl next.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:40:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
harleymov : that occur because we live in an imperfect, evolving universe
scream_reaver : lol grem
seraphina22 : Because it proved to me..that there's something out there.
lissianthus : seraphina22 , if it all makes you happy, then its good for you
seraphina22 : I'm not going to swear it was Jesus..or even God. Some people say it's an evil force that makes that happen.
lissianthus : but dont expect others to believe it unless they already do
seraphina22 : I really don't care. All I know is that there is SOMETHING out there..and that's enough for me.
celticbeauty88 : well iv been skeptic and iv never been talked to in tounge and fell on the floor .. cept when one of my friends came up to me .. really drunk and pissed
zoran865 : So an electric-shock type sensation is the most profound experience you've ever had?
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraphina, thats common at those wack-a-do "revival" groups. Its the same thing that, say, Hitler used in his rallies. a sort of mass delusion. the pressure to participate ushers one into "the spirit"
scream_reaver : LSD flashback
gremlin_net : seraphina22: you're not clear on the word 'proof' yet. Proof would be something you could submit to peer review. You didn't get proof; you got something you could rationalise into deities.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:41:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Hunter- my school was going to cut funding for teacher's salaries, and benefits.... half the school walked out, and now they're
seraphina22 : So why did I fall over like that uncontrollably? I couldn't fall over like that now if I tried..My knees would buckle.
gadgetfiend2002 : seraph: Just becuase something unexpected happens doesnt mean its God
lissianthus : mind over sanity, seraphina22
seraphina22 : Didn't you read anything I just said, Gadget?
gremlin_net : seraphina22: begging the question.
lissianthus : its catching at places like that
seraphina22 : Well..anyway..I pity you people.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ seraphina22, so you feel God. I don't.
lissianthus : ok, click
tswonderwoman : In china theres a certain species of ant which is pretty halucinagenic.. kids actually roll them into joints and smoke them.
gadgetfiend2002 : yes, I did, and there's other explanations
chiefblades : i could make you do that with a couple of wires and an electrical socket
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, because you were surrounded by people with religious ecstacy. You felt out of place and wanted to participate. So you did.
scream_reaver : you pity us for not having seizures in a church?
seraphina22 : LIke I said..I couldn't expect anyone to believe until they've experienced it for themselves.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: you don't get to pity me. Fucking narcissist.
lissianthus : has seen enough of seraphina22 with that PITY post
lissianthus : dammit
seraphina22 : The words "don't knock it till you try it" come to mind.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:42:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gadgetfiend2002 : seraph - It's group hysteria
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ seraphina22, you're assuming I
zoran865 : If believing in God means saying things like "I pity you people" then it's the last thing I want to do.
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, i pity you too. simp
celticbeauty88 : so you were messed up on LSD and your drunk friend came over and screamed at you in his/her drunken rage tounge and pushed you?
seraphina22 : Well..Lissianthus..Be my guest. Click ignore.
lissianthus : shit that makes me sick when they 'pity' us
gremlin_net : seraphina22: the words 'don't submit to subjective experiments' come to mind, too.
lissianthus : fuckers
urichhunt : yes
scream_reaver : I pity people who pity people...
zevnak : the art of attributing meaning to random events is called Ideas of Reference and it is a psychotic symptom
gadgetfiend2002 : you look at all those Nazi rallies, not all those people were zealous Nazis, but they got carried away in the moment with all the people around them. That';s what happened to you Seraph
lissianthus : they can stuff their pity
zevnak : Look! That Weasel Speaks
ed_unedited : <
tswonderwoman : the animal trys to eat the frog.. starts to trip, and then wanders off to lie in the grass and watch the clouds make pretty shapes
lissianthus : up their hineys where their heads are
scream_reaver : << doesn't
ed_unedited : << no money no house no nothing
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Good for you.
urichhunt : Psychotic reference then
seraphina22 : Well..I'm glad you know, Gadget. THANK you so much. I mean...with all my years of education and experience..I couldn't explain it.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: drawing a conclusion based on something you saw without objective testing would be like me estimating your IQ at seventy-five based only on what I've seen you say in here. Is that a good idea?
scream_reaver : yes, but you have a computer, and that's what counts...
lissianthus : ooooooo we have baby frogs!
zevnak : actually, the response at large evangelical rallies is a sort of mass hysteria
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:44:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
zevnak : I learned how to invoke that
zevnak : it is not so different from hypnosis
zevnak : squish squish
urichhunt : ?
zevnak : frog juice
zevnak : drogs in a blender
urichhunt : lol
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, its very common. that same feeling can be given to you by a psychiatrist, a sensory deprivation chamber, or that nifty NASA rig that swings 'round and 'round
celticbeauty88 : lol
zevnak : frog tossed from moving cars
urichhunt : squashed frogs
zevnak : a psychiatrist cannot give that feeling to you
zevnak : psychiatrists only prescribe
zevnak : they are not useful for much else
urichhunt : a warm injection?
lissianthus : i take much care not to do that, urichhunt
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:45:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
seraphina22 : There's always an explanation, isn't there? Some kind of scientific explanation. When something happens to so many people that you can no longer attribute it to a delusion..you come up with a scientific reason for it.
lissianthus : even going as far as cutting the grass with hand held trimmer
tswonderwoman : toads have bumpy skin.. frogs dont.. toads and frogs also have different numbers of toes.
celticbeauty88 : dont forget you LSD and drunk friends to help you belive in god
harleymov : anyone ever hear of space repiration?
urichhunt : lol liss
gremlin_net : seraphina22: put more appropriately, if your deities exist in fact because you fell down, then you're a clinical retard in fact because you never got back up.
harleymov : respiration
lissianthus : wow i didnt know about the toe thingy ts!
lissianthus : thanks
zevnak : seraphina, actually there ARE formal ways to differentiate a real spiritual reaction from a hysterical response
urichhunt : frogs are cool
tswonderwoman : the difference between frogs and toads is comparable between Horses and zebras..
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, right. reasonable explanations are bad, but explanations like "I felt happy, therefore a ghosty must have done it" are MUCH better.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:46:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
ed_unedited : <
seraphina22 : Well, anyway...it didn't stop there. There have been so many more instances. But I trust you people don't want to hear about them.
zevnak : you dumb fuck psychiatrists dont do shit
zevnak : they merely give drugs
urichhunt : we get tree frogs round here sometimes
zevnak : dont confuse psychiatrists with psychologists
gremlin_net : ed_unedited: that would be impressive, as long as my hair is. Warn me if you're likely to do that: there's a ceiling fan spinning above me.
lissianthus : where?
urichhunt : not the pacific tho
jennieferrood : <-- Looking for a rich guy
ed_unedited : <
lissianthus : (jennieferrood) wrong room
zevnak : Name them, I will call them
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, right. This isnt a room for personal testimonies like i ALREADY told you. Thats considered a form of preaching. This is a debate room, where factual premises and reasonable conclusions are expected
zevnak : Give me the names of these Indian Psychiatrists
urichhunt : lmao
zevnak : I will call them today from work
zevnak : this is not a debate room!
zevnak : are you for real?
tswonderwoman : Ive loved New Zealanders ever since I saw Bad Taste..
zevnak : this is merely shouting and polemics
seraphina22 : Thanks for clearing that up, Zedechiah. I mean..since you are an authority on the room, and all.
athenian_man_of_rapture : ah
hotvegasman : serap when i was young i would use L.S.D. when ever i saw myself in the mirror i saw the face of jesus ........does that mean im the new messiah
gremlin_net : seraphina22: good guess. We don't want to hear about misinferred personal experiences. We want evidence of the existence of deities.
seraphina22 : I mean..what the hell did I think this was..America?
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, youre welcome. But youll get the same answer from anyone
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:48:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
ed_unedited : Zevnak ,what is shouting and polemics?
zevnak : Someone actually showed James Randi evidence but he sort of ignored it
zevnak : some people will deny it is aining and stand in the rain
gremlin_net : seraphina22: Duhmerica. Freedom of speech, notwithstanding prior restraint. Libel and fraud aren't protected.
seraphina22 : So basically..this isn't Atheist Vs. Christianity..This is the Atheists bash Christianity.
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, no. this is the internet. It doesnt have geographical bounderies. Thats why its called "the world wide web"
lissianthus : see you awful , to be pitied atheists later
ed_unedited : *raining
scream_reaver : cya liss
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, oh, you mean "i pity all of you"
supr_dork : hey butt munchers
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, you fucking ass
alcyonian : then all the little ones
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:49:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
zevnak : serphina, but there is so much abotu christianity one could bash
urichhunt : sera im talkin frogs
seraphina22 : Again..thanks for your insight, Zedechiah. I'm not sure how I have made it around this "world wide web" you speak of it for the past 5 years without you.
alcyonian : hahaha
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, but 3 posts back you thought this was america
gremlin_net : seraphina22: a deity must have helped you with it.
theophrenie : yeh Zed!
hotvegasman : zed lmfao
ed_unedited : <
gremlin_net : seraphina22: maybe you missed mine, then.
urichhunt : oops
zevnak : Zev not Zed
hotvegasman : sarcasm doesnt work in text
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:50:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
urichhunt : it can
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, or i clearly saw that youre an inept fuckshit that couldnt think her way out of a wet paper bag with a hole in it
gremlin_net : hotvegasman: sure it does; read for context.
seraphina22 : It does if you're smart enough to pick up on it.
theophrenie : unedited, has computer will travel?
alcyonian : We are
gremlin_net : hotvegasman: oh. You mean sarcasm doesn't work in text on illiterate christians....
irrefragabilis : is away View My Webcam
irrefragabilis : laughs and laughs
scream_reaver : ed: and no appearing on my screen either...
seraphina22 : Beautiful metaphor, Zedechiah.
hotvegasman : gremlin now you got it
zedechiah_the_messiah : thanks
sara2smile2 : sarcasm works in text...I have been laughing all morning
supr_dork : oh joy
gremlin_net : hotvegasman: I have an easy solution. I don't care if they get it. Applied apathy.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:51:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
supr_dork : someone entertain me
ed_unedited : theo --no computer ,I hire computer time by the hour in computer centers in India ,at prices i cant afford
hotvegasman : lol
supr_dork : thin and long is not well.
theophrenie : you better suck up tp Zed seraphina 22, Zed is a true man of God.
urichhunt : apathy is the great downer of ideology
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:52:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gremlin_net : urichhunt: so where's the problem?
theophrenie : thats sad unedited, how much an hour there?
seraphina22 : Yah..ok
zevnak : ZEV
zevnak : ZEV
zevnak : v is not = d
urichhunt : grem...not sure yet...but i will get around to it
adkoths : hi grem...
gremlin_net : Hi.
zevnak : Zedechia is a fraud
adkoths : howru?
zevnak : an imitation
seraphina22 : So do you guys persecute other religions too..or is it just the Christians?
theophrenie : zev, zedekiah is in the room.
hunter_the_crazychick : is away (Away)
adkoths : long since we talk?
zevnak : he does not know hebrew or greek
zevnak : he merely attacks
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:53:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
theophrenie : ch^
irrefragabilis : laughs some more
gremlin_net : adkoths: okay. If slightly beleaguered by illiterate christians. Same as ever.
zevnak : Zed should leave the room and leave that harlot to me
sara2smile2 : seraphina, they are pretty specialized
irrefragabilis : Nails her neighbor to a stick
zevnak : I saw her first and her meat is mine
ed_unedited : theo ,Rs 30/- an hour without a cabin ,Rs 40/- an hour with a cabin and without the never-ending-dull-roar-of-India
alcyonian : bah
tswonderwoman : alcy the same thing is true here in the us,, most of the terrirotry is stilll relatively sparsely populated... and in some places,, pretty freaking deserted. but the world sees america only as its huge cities.
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, i like the way to continue to call reasoned thinking "persecution"
adkoths : are all christians illiterate or all illiterates christians?
ed_unedited : Rs 20/- an hour without broadband
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:54:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : is away (Away)
theophrenie : unedited, thats rupees?
adkoths : hi alcy...sweety
alcyonian : Damn, our giant wetas in the south island
seraphina22 : Well call it what you like.
gremlin_net : adkoths: neither. Those who are both are doubly fucked.
seraphina22 : A rose by any other name is just as sweet
scream_reaver : we only persecute religions that claim we have sins, will burn in hell for said sins, and get all their info from a mythological joke book... so, if the shoe fits...
seraphina22 : and all that jazz
sara2smile2 : to =you ?
chiefblades : A rose by any other name still stinks the same
chiefblades : how is everybody today?
gremlin_net : seraphina22: you misquoted Shakespeare.
catinthehat0072002 : Hello people of the chat
catinthehat0072002 : the cat is back
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, no. its not. rational, reasonable thinking, being critical, asking QUESTIONS is not "persecution"
zedechiah_the_messiah : expecially in an anonymous text chat
zedechiah_the_messiah : especially
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:55:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
revspecies116 : ahhh
gremlin_net : That which we call a rose, by any other name, would smell as sweet.
theophrenie : To pee or not to pee, that is the question Seraphina
sara2smile2 : gremlin, smell was left out to avoid further persecution
seraphina22 : Lord, what fools these mortals be.
urichhunt : so that which we call a turd?
gremlin_net : Or, my version: that which we call a rose, by any other name, would be a Crimsonhued Vegetamerican Romantic Device.
scream_reaver : lol
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, whos a fool and why? based upon what exactly?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:56:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
theophrenie : vibrator grem?
adkoths : grem why christians are singly fucked?is it bcos you cant understand what they are or you are incapable of tht and tht hurt you?
scream_reaver : I thought xtians would burn in hell if they called someone a fool...
gremlin_net : seraphina22: calling someone a fool sends you to hell, according to the bible.
theophrenie : cucumber?
seraphina22 : I was just following the trend of Shakespeare quotes, Zed.
zevnak : Is it true that Gremlin the Weasel still is emotionally abusive of Hunter?
seraphina22 : Relax..not every mention of the word "fool" is directed towards you.
theophrenie : Is gremlin real name Jeff?
gremlin_net : seraphina22: and why are you still referencing deities as anything more than weak characters in badly-written fiction; you already conceded that they don't exist in fact.
zedechiah_the_messiah : oh Seraph, so you said it but it had no meaning behind it? no intent? it addressed no one in this room? You just said it because you have nothing else to say?
ed_unedited : <
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:57:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, if i thought it was directed at me i wouldnt have asked.....
ed_unedited : <
seraphina22 : Well actually..It's one of Shakespeare's most famous aphorisms.
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, whos a fool and why? based upon what exactly?
seraphina22 : I just said it to "fit in" with the rest of the room.
ed_unedited : <
gremlin_net : adkoths: yeah.
tswonderwoman : nz money is fucking gorgeous... have you ever seen the Bahaman Pound?? its a work of fucking art. american money is as artisticly significant as a tellephone bill.
hunter_the_crazychick : is back
hunter_the_crazychick : zev: nope. It's not true; it never was true.
chiefblades : seraphina wants to fit in....thats probably why she had her "religious" esperience
gremlin_net : adkoths: oh. I hadn't seen your question. Um...neither.
chiefblades : experience even
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:58:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
adkoths : so why do you think to be religious is to get get fucked singly?
hotvegasman : yeti remember the tyson thing yesterday there is a god and tyson proves it
scream_reaver : Mike Tyson?
hotvegasman : yep
scream_reaver : :O
alcyonian : Be surprising when the census of jedi is released
tswonderwoman : vegas, there was a tyson thing yesterday>? I missed it.. what did he do now??
theophrenie : Yep, all the good pussy belongs to the Church.
tswonderwoman : did he eat someone again?
hotvegasman : no we debated his rape charge
gremlin_net : adkoths: heh. Putting it that way? Because christian mythology outlaws both sex outside of marriage and second marriages. Christians by definition must be fucked singularly. QED.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 08:59:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
seraphina22 : Interesting theory, Evil..They don't call you evil for nothing, huh?
chiefblades : >:)
theophrenie : You have to pay the Church to get access to it.
adkoths : ppl arew stubborn about their biases and irrationalities ..grem.
chiefblades : Just ask any of my students
wdsjminister2003 : mike talked about that lady who accused him of the rape that he would love to hit her
a_atheist : DAMN
gremlin_net : adkoths: only in theory; in practise christians remarry and cheat all the time.
adkoths : every religion does tht...
athenian_man_of_rapture : lol
gremlin_net : adkoths: most do.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:00:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
seraphina22 : Who the hell is Adkoths?
tswonderwoman : wdsj, fucking crist,.. why is mike alowed to run around free?
hotvegasman : YETI
theophrenie : Adkoths is your master.
adkoths : everyone knows smo9king is dangerous still they smoke ...irrational ,..like tht ppl are religios...
scream_reaver : speaking of which...
scream_reaver : is away (Out for a smoke)
adkoths : Amy is adkoths
a_atheist : woo hoo!
gremlin_net : adkoths: actually, I don't know that smoking is dangerous.
a_atheist : stupid yahoo
wdsjminister2003 : mike did his time years ago so he's paid his debt to socity
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:01:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
theophrenie : a-atheist, where is this War hell have you been Sailor?
adkoths : hi grem...
a_atheist : out to sea!
gremlin_net : adkoths: I do know that smokers outlive nonsmokers by an average of two years. But that's not really what you're on about, is it....
a_atheist : duh!
theophrenie : You get fired at?
a_atheist : nope
theophrenie : Loose ant y pilots?
adkoths : i dont think you are getting me grem.
a_atheist : its SO GREAT to be back!
theophrenie : any^
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:02:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gremlin_net : adkoths: I guess not.
a_atheist : nope, we KICK ass
adkoths : alcy you there?
hotvegasman : yep
revspecies116 : that is the new zealand statistics on religion
tswonderwoman : smoking weed is dangerous too. Once when i was really high and not being carefull, I accidentaly got a near lethal dose of PURE weapons grade Abba. sigh.. drugs really ruin lives. :(
theophrenie : good news a_a, I was worried about you.
a_atheist : zed is dead
hotvegasman : yep i agree
staarvingwriter : Im a writer living in India.I dont have money to buy books etc,which I need for my writing .Im being forced to eat the cheap unheigenic street food which is killing me ,by the Indians.I am not asking for fancy chandeliers ,and trips to italy and greece like rich Indians .Any financial help or help with material I need ,will be greatly appreciated.
a_atheist : bigger chance for me to kill myself then by some taliban asshole
gremlin_net : tswonderwoman: just avoid christianity; you'll get involved in Stryper next >:)
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:03:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
archaic_charm : hi room
adkoths : whatever rational we pretend to be we tend to posses mind which is irrational..as it is biult..tht way
hotvegasman : lmfao
theophrenie : No. I was worried the fanatics Christian might want to burn you at the stake or something.
hotvegasman : and she jokes about it now too
a_atheist : so whats u theo?
a_atheist : up
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:04:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : is away (Away)
tswonderwoman : grem, whe n i lived in new orleans i used to work in a voodoo shop, we were alowed to play any music we wanted, so i ALWAYS blasted stryper :)
theophrenie : At my GF house on vaction for the past 15 days.
hotvegasman : pyro yep
gremlin_net : tswonderwoman: you're an evil, evil shemale....
theophrenie : poontang every day. :)
a_atheist : hell yeah!
tswonderwoman : :) mia culpa
adkoths : oh you there.....
archaic_charm : whats the topic today then?
a_atheist : my wife was happ yot see me, 150 days underway makes some people horny
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:05:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
theophrenie : geeze, thats a long haul
a_atheist : usually the cruises are 180
adkoths : a_athiest
adkoths : doest it hurt you?
a_atheist : ?
hotvegasman : ok off this subject i just wanted to tell yeti that we had a news show on it i think its called pulse
tswonderwoman : M 25, M 9, ... why do brits name thier hiways after american guns?
gremlin_net : adkoths: does what hurt whom?
staarvingwriter : Im a writer living in India.I dont have money to buy books etc,which I need for my writing .Im being forced to eat the cheap unheigenic street food which is killing me ,by the Indians.I am not asking for fancy chandeliers ,and trips to italy and greece like rich Indians .Any financial help or help with material I need ,will be greatly appreciated.
a_atheist : hiya gremlin!
adkoths : i was asking a_athiest
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:06:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gremlin_net : staarvingwriter: here. Have this instead: http://troll.grem.tv
gadgetfiend2002 : wonderwoman : and why do americans think they're the centre of the universe
a_atheist : hurt>
a_atheist : ?
revspecies116 : *** starving writer will be ignored.
hotvegasman : freedom lmfao
theophrenie : Welcome back a_a, kick some fundy ass.
mark_dp73 : I have just seen the latest sign of armageddon. They are making a combination live action/computer animated Garfield movie
a_atheist : oh yeah!
hotvegasman : when he bit off hollyfields ear
gremlin_net : mark_dp73: can't be worse than Nilbog....
tswonderwoman : gadget, we arent. I was simply makes a jest. :)
gadgetfiend2002 : i know, me too
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:07:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
adkoths : starving what sort of philosophy if at all you have let you begwhen you pretend to be writer
weed_smoking_jesus2001 : hi
seraphina22 : So have all of you cynics ever CONSIDERED the possibility that you might be wrong?
weed_smoking_jesus2001 : any retard preachers in here yet?
gadgetfiend2002 : have you seraph?
gremlin_net : seraphina22: wrong about what?
theophrenie : seraphina, wrong about what?
seraphina22 : Of course I have, Gadget.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:08:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
seraphina22 : For years
scream_reaver : is back
scream_reaver : weed: is there another kind?
gadgetfiend2002 : and what was your conclusion...?
mark_dp73 : seraphina22, have you considered the posibility that you might be wrong?
weed_smoking_jesus2001 : have any beleivers ever considered the possibility they might be wrong?
staarvingwriter : Im a writer living in India.I dont have money to buy books etc,which I need for my writing .Im being forced to eat the cheap unheigenic street food which is killing me ,by the Indians.I am not asking for fancy chandeliers ,and trips to italy and greece like rich Indians .Any financial help or help with material I need ,will be greatly appreciated.
a_atheist : be back later, good to see you theo! going to have lunch with the wife
gadgetfiend2002 : shut up cheapskate!
seraphina22 : I'd say the majority have.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: I don't see how I could be wrong about deities failing to be factual.
hotvegasman : bye aa
mark_dp73 : seraphina22, I assume you are a christian?
seraphina22 : So you've never considered it then, Grem?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:09:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
seraphina22 : Not technically, Mark.
revspecies116 : brb - getting a drink
adkoths : sera a rational person if at all he or she exist is not afraid to be be wrong provided the person who is proving him wrong knows what right means
theophrenie : staarvingwriter, why should we believe you?
mark_dp73 : not technically?
hotvegasman : tyson needs an ali to put him in line like ali did for foreman
gremlin_net : seraphina22: I consider it every day. Then I confirm that they still haven't been shown to exist in fact, and wait for the next day.
seraphina22 : And you said all that to say what, Pash?
seraphina22 : Have you ever really sought them, Grem?
mark_dp73 : seraphina22, whong about what exsctly?
demiurge_nt : seraphina: How many gods do you believe in?
tswonderwoman : Buster Douglas is a swell guy.. a good man, who deservess to be the king od england.
tswonderwoman : sorry matt
gremlin_net : seraphina22: I've sought the evidence.
seraphina22 : Or are you just waiting for them to knock on your door?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:10:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
seraphina22 : Maybe you're taking the wrong approach.
adkoths : to say tht when you are wrong you know what is right ...its good ...you still have chance ...
demiurge_nt : seraphina: How many gods do you believe in?
gremlin_net : seraphina22: I had a couple of morons knock on my door the other day. They're atheistic now, though.
gadgetfiend2002 : what approach to you reccommend then?
mark_dp73 : seraphina22, sought what?
staarvingwriter : didnt leave the room.was BOOTED.
gremlin_net : mormons*
staarvingwriter : <
hotvegasman : gremlin lmfao
seraphina22 : To truly seek it..with all of your heart..and an open mind.
revspecies116 : Gremlin - that is excellent news to hear
mark_dp73 : grem, you spelled it right the first time
gadgetfiend2002 : seek and ye shall find
demiurge_nt : seraphina: seek what?
seraphina22 : So crucify the ego, before it's far too late to leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical, and you will come to find that we are all one mind capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable. Just let the light touch you
theophrenie : seraphina, way down deep, you are an atheist too. I can prove it.
staarvingwriter : was booted knows by WHO
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:11:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hotvegasman : jfire
demiurge_nt : Is seraphina preaching?
gremlin_net : seraphina22: seeking with the heart doesn't work. It has no eyes, ears, or thought processing.
theophrenie : who staarving?
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : is back
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : bows to grem
revspecies116 : seraphina, please don't fill my screen up with your rubbish
adkoths : grem a feeling or thought which changes easily has never existed originally..so if you are saying those ppl turned athiest...they were never thiest...
seraphina22 : That's a Tool song
seraphina22 : asshole
seraphina22 : You guys should all be big Tool fans
gremlin_net : demiurge_nt: I wouldn't think so. seraphina22 has already conceded explicitly that deities don't exist in fact.
seraphina22 : Maynard is an authority on your way of thinking
gadgetfiend2002 : seraph: if you look for something hard enough you'll see it whether its there or not. Your need for a God lead you to believe one exists
hunter_the_crazychick : Tool?
mark_dp73 : wouldn't recognize a Tool song if I heard it
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:12:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gremlin_net : seraphina22: strawman.
seraphina22 : Or are you all a bunch of old fogeys?
adkoths : why to crusify ego.......
mark_dp73 : hunder, rock group
staarvingwriter : Im a writer living in India.I dont have money to buy books etc,which I need for my writing .Im being forced to eat the cheap unheigenic street food which is killing me ,by the Indians.I am not asking for fancy chandeliers ,and trips to italy and greece like rich Indians .Any financial help or help with material I need ,will be greatly appreciated.
scream_reaver : has only ever heard 1 tool song, and it was ok...
hunter_the_crazychick : mark: oh. Um. Should they be on my playlist? I'm 22 and all....
seraphina22 : You never answered the question, Gadget.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : also wouldn't
demiurge_nt : seraphina: What way of thinking would that be?
hotvegasman : jfire
gadgetfiend2002 : starving: why not sell your computer - then you'd have enough money to buy food and not piss us off
seraphina22 : The whole "think for yourself, question authority" approach.
hotvegasman : lmfao
jfirebird1 : wassup vegasB-)
gremlin_net : Not knowing Tool makes you old? I haven't heard shit from them in nearly ten years.
gadgetfiend2002 : sorry, seraph what was the question?
hunter_the_crazychick : Mark: right there next to my marylin manson and StoneSour and Goo Goo Dolls and Acid Bath...?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:13:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : laughs at Gremlin.
seraphina22 : Have you ever considered that you might be wrong?
demiurge_nt : wrong about what?
theophrenie : staarving, if you are really a writer, you should learn how to spell or at least edit your publishing
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: Yeah, but you spent MTVs best years remembering everything they ever played....
gremlin_net : seraphina22: no. Deities have not been proved to exist in fact. I'm not wrong about that. If I were, it would be all over cnn.com.
gadgetfiend2002 : yes, I have
hotvegasman : jfire ....seraphina
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:14:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
mark_dp73 : seraphina22, what if we are wrong?
gadgetfiend2002 : and I came to the conclusion that there is a chance I am wrong, yes, but I'm willing to take that chance
seraphina22 : Then you're missing out on the best life has to offer
gadgetfiend2002 : why?>
theophrenie : what is saraphina's other name?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:15:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gadgetfiend2002 : by not denying myself things that Christians would forbid me to do
mark_dp73 : Who are you to say what is best for us?
seraphina22 : I'm not.
gadgetfiend2002 : i think you're the one who's missing out
yeticock : jo ii cant see u can u come back in
scream_reaver : worshipping a Johnny come lately myth is the "best life has to offer"?
seraphina22 : I've tried everything to fill the "emptiness" in my soul. Sex..drugs..and everything that lifestyle has to offer. I'm telilng you..there's nothing in the world that could ever take the place of God's love.
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: Wasn't Tool one of those Behind the Music that Sucks ones that was lumped in with like, seven other bands?
gremlin_net : seraphina22: how do you know what life might have to offer? When did you try every single fucking thing availble? I hope it was in the last five minutes, granting that the technology curve is producing millions of new things per hour now.
mark_dp73 : scream, he isn't a christian.
demiurge_nt : seraphina: What soul?
gadgetfiend2002 : for you maybe, seraph, but not for me
gremlin_net : Hunter: I think so.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:16:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : blinks.
chickendra : The 10 year old boy is here again.
scream_reaver : mark: just a fruitcake?
gremlin_net : seraphina22: maybe that's the problem. I haven't got a soul.
mark_dp73 : pretty much
scream_reaver : ah
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:17:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gadgetfiend2002 : the fact that you feel an emptiness in your soul is the reason you turned to God. There are those of us who feel fulfilled with life without believeing in God
theophrenie : seraphina, if your claim is true, you could contentended live alone the rest of your life and be happy. I know for a fact, you could not.
hunter_the_crazychick : There's a ten year old boy?
seraphina22 : Well, yes..I would say that is a problem.
hunter_the_crazychick : Can I put it in the oven?
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Who's a ten year old boy?
scream_reaver : I never turned to sex or drugs or anything to fill an "emptiness"... I don't have an emptiness
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ LOL hunter only if I get a slive
theophrenie : content^
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ slice* even
hunter_the_crazychick : nods.
hunter_the_crazychick : Ten year old boy roast for everyone.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : drools in anticipation
gadgetfiend2002 : Only those with low self-esteem feel emptiness and that's why they turn to religion
seraphina22 : So you're completely content with your life the way it is, Animus?
demiurge_nt : seraphina: Strange, we find that many drug addicts wind up turning to a god..coincidence? :D
chickendra : Bye Hittingpilot. It's time for little boys to go have their milk and cookies.
scream_reaver : yes
urichhunt : Sera...do u think ronald macdonald is a false messiah?
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ seraphina22, I am.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:18:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
mark_dp73 : seraphina22, I can not believe in a god so evil, sadistic and egomaniacal that he would send someone to hell for not worshiping him. Especially when this god refuses to profide evidence of his existence
hotvegasman : jfire lmfao
seraphina22 : I was a beilever way before I turned to drugs. It was the loss of my faith that made me do it.
hunter_the_crazychick : Ah. No faith = druggie.
hunter_the_crazychick : Uh huh.
urichhunt : for me it was a lack of beer
demiurge_nt : seraphina: Loss of belief in a magical being made you turn to drugs?!
gremlin_net : demiurge_nt: we already covered that. Weed leads to cocaine; cocaine leads to christianity. If there's ever a heavier drug, they'll probably move on to that.
scream_reaver : I lost mine long ago, and feel a lot better for it
hotvegasman : dovy
hunter_the_crazychick : I have no faith in drugs. Does that count...?
chickendra : Yesterday everyone put Hittingpilot on ignore, and he went away like a good little boy. An obedient child. A very nice little baby.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : also doesn't
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:19:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
theophrenie : No hunter, you bad.
demiurge_nt : seraphinaL I've never had faith in your myth, nor have I ever abused drugs
mark_dp73 : <-- never even so much as smoked a cigerette
hotvegasman : hitting its called pinging
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ chickendra... I haven't seen him say anything, there really isn't any need to insult him
chickendra : I can track Hittingpilot.
seraphina22 : Don't get me wrong..I was never an addict. I experimented.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: are you addicted to christianity?
urichhunt : hey guys lets lighten up
seraphina22 : Nope
gremlin_net : seraphina22: or are you just experimenting?
seraphina22 : In fact..I don't remember ever professing that I was a Christian.
urichhunt : loosen those sphincters!
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:20:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
mark_dp73 : religion is a narcotic
urichhunt : breathe
gremlin_net : seraphina22: you did when you claimed that Jesus was deital.
demiurge_nt : seraphina: Prove your belief is not an addiction...give it up for one week
gadgetfiend2002 : what do you believe then Seraph
seraphina22 : I never said that.
urichhunt : do something silly
seraphina22 : I said that the existence of Jesus the man has never been in question.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: actually, you did.
seraphina22 : Did I? Show me.
revspecies116 : *** hittingpilot will be ignored.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: that would take a long time, at this point.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:21:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
demiurge_nt : seraphina: There is no evidence to support the existence of an historical Jesus, sorry kid
gremlin_net : seraphina22: let's make it simpler. What's your religion?
seraphina22 : So you don't have any evidence then to prove that I said that?
F_u_k_Off2003 : never trust in faith it's reality can end in disapointment :(
gremlin_net : demiurge_nt: she already conceded that.
chickendra : Hittingpilot. Your mommy and daddy will be very angry with you when they get the e-mail from Yahoo that tells them you have been visiting adult chats. You don't need an e-mail. They will track your IP address, and get your mommy and daddy's address.
seraphina22 : Cuz you know..without hard physical evidence..then something can't POSSIBLY be true.
demiurge_nt : grem: seraphina22: I said that the existence of Jesus the man has never been in question.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: not handy. And I don't care enough about you to go look for it.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:22:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gremlin_net : demiurge_nt: she did say that. Shortly before conceding that the guy never existed in fact.
chickendra : It's nice to put silly little boys who talk stupid and curse on ignore. The room is more pleasant now.
urichhunt : lol
mark_dp73 : demiurge_nt : grem: seraphina22: I said that the existence of Jesus the man has never been in question.
hunter_the_crazychick : chickendra: It'd be nicer if you stopped talking about him.
urichhunt : it is chick
gremlin_net : seraphina22: so you have no religion? Or did you forget the question?
chickendra : No. I can't stop.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:23:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
seraphina22 : Don't you people watch the History channel? Seriously. Do you realize how recent 2000 years ago is historically speaking?
chickendra : Gone
seraphina22 : But yeah..back to your question, Grem..I'm no party to organized religion.
adkoths : what is it sara?
theophrenie : seraphina, 2000 years ago is long enough to figure out that dead men stay dead, always.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: yeah. Recorded history goes back about twelve thousand years. Genetic history goes back about fifty thousand. Geological history goes back 4.55billion. So what?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:24:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
seraphina22 : Thank you for your input, Theophrenie..but that's not the issue we're debating here.
adkoths : lol grem..
gremlin_net : seraphina22: so you don't believe that this Jesus guy was a deity?
chickendra : Even the name Jesus is incorrect.
urichhunt : sera this has become somewhat of a mass debate
seraphina22 : I'm not sure about that. The only thing I'm sure of is that I don't think he's the only way.
gremlin_net : chickendra: I know.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:25:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
demiurge_nt : only way for what?
adkoths : jesus was a person of high moral standards as said by russel.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: so there are other ways to get dizzy and fall down, too?
seraphina22 : The only way to experience God
theophrenie : well seraphina, there may be hope for your education yet!
demiurge_nt : seraphina: which god?
seraphina22 : The God
demiurge_nt : seraphina: Which "The God"?
urichhunt : lol
scream_reaver : what's a god?
johntheantibaptist : seraphenia there are over 2500 named gods please pick one
gremlin_net : seraphina22: it's not. We can trigger the belief in deities with shock therapy now. Not that we do it much; it was just for testing.
seraphina22 : God is just a word. Words are meaningless. I'm talking about the Higher Power..the Creator..whatever.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:26:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
demiurge_nt : creator? LOL
seraphina22 : Yeah..as in..one who creates.
adkoths : hindus worship 32hundred million gods.
chickendra : God was the only way primitive people could explain the how the earth came to be, and how we came to be.
seraphina22 : Is that a new word for you? Sometimes things sound funny when we hear them for the first time.
scream_reaver : if god is a word, and words are meaningless, wouldn't that make god meaningless?
theophrenie : I think seraphina has escaped the dogmatic mind set, and good for her, she will progress beyond her peer dogmatists
demiurge_nt : seraphina: Matter cannot be created nor destroyed
urichhunt : maybe god just is....
gremlin_net : God was an arcane Assyrian deity no one's believed in for millennia; its name was recently plagiarised to indicate the primary deity in the bible.
staarvingwriter : theophrenie: staarving, if you are really a writer, you should learn how to spell or at least edit your publishing.
urichhunt : or was
seraphina22 : Brilliant, Animus. Brilliant way of thinking.
johntheantibaptist : The word god is a job title, not a name.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:27:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gremlin_net : johntheantibaptist: it's a name. It's just the name of a dead deity. See above.
adkoths : god is highest intelligence..
gremlin_net : adkoths: evidently not.
urichhunt : its like if jesus is the answer.....then the question must be wrong
theophrenie : If god is the highest intelligence, we are all in big trouble.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:28:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
johntheantibaptist : theo good point
gremlin_net : Heh. What do you get if you multiply six by seven? Jesus.
mmmmmyid : god's so called "creations" point to the fact that he isnt the sharpest tool in the shed
hotvegasman : urich lmfao
seraphina22 : You could have done things better?
chickendra : It is said we are created in God's image. God appeared to Moses as a burning bush. I don't look like a bush. I have a bush, but it isn't burning.
scream_reaver : if god is the highest intelligence, why are his 'foolowers' so dumb?
hotvegasman : lmfao
seraphina22 : Then you're doing something wrong, Chicken
chickendra : Weed is god
theophrenie : chickendra,i could make it burn. heheheehe
gremlin_net : The highest intelligence on record is Marilyn vos Savant. Although people have since outtested her; it's just not considered appropriate for the record books anymore.
demiurge_nt : So Moses visited a "burning bush" and came back to his followers with a bad rash.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:29:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
adkoths : evidences what sort o9f evidence you are looking for..when we are looking at universe biasedly on the basis of a small sample which is just nothing in comparison to whole of universe.
scream_reaver : chic: a burning bush is a sure sign of a problem ;)
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : is away (Away)
gremlin_net : adkoths: begging the question.
chickendra : Are you saying I should pour gasoline on bush so it looks like God?
urichhunt : adk wots ur point?
mmmmmyid : seraphina, it is obvious that life was not created by a perfect being. look at us for example. we are full of problems
hotvegasman : dove yeti wants to know if you can hear him
scream_reaver : ouch
chickendra : I agree Jfirebird
theophrenie : chickendra, no!
gremlin_net : Any sixth grader could tell you that life wasn't 'created'.
mmmmmyid : although, theists will often blame sin for the design flaws in humans
jfirebird1 : try chicken
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:30:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
urichhunt : life evolved
daliavanderkroft : <-- Looking for a rich guy
brngreenback : Any sixth grader is roughly too intellegent to come into this room and post half the shit that ends up in here.
theophrenie : Chrisitan life hasn't evolved yet.
hunter_the_crazychick : Hey baron.
brngreenback : Hey hunter
urichhunt : once i ate burgers...now i eat fish
gremlin_net : Matter/energy can't be created or destroyed. Only converted. The first line of the damned bible is fictional.
hunter_the_crazychick : Baron: how much do you spend per day to be online?
hotvegasman : im rich but i dont do cyber
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:31:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
adkoths : grem why you think 6 th grader is with more evidence...if he is not parroting what is taught to h9im.
hunter_the_crazychick : Baron: ah. RIght.
theophrenie : I charge for cyber by the hour.
urichhunt : grem......steven hawking reckons there 4 seconds unaccounted for
hunter_the_crazychick : Baron: just worrying about those people who might be spending to play counterstrike.
mmmmmyid : will be fairly wealthy in about 5 yrs and will run away from people like dalia
brngreenback : See, the earth rotates on it's axis once every four hours, and stops at ten o'clock and twenty two hundred.
chickendra : Good point Jfirebird
gremlin_net : adkoths: the key verb there is 'taught'. A teaches; B learns. There's really no teaching and learning in religions, only preaching and believing.
brngreenback : At least, this is what the military would like me to believe.
brngreenback : Hunter, ha
hunter_the_crazychick : laughs.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:32:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
chickendra : Brilliant point you made.
chickendra : No
adkoths : if of course you start looking at god the way it is in bible or any other human written book i am sorry i cant help you grem.
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: why haven't we gotten anything annoying clipped to our door about rent yet?
chickendra : Not a guy. I have a miserable sore throat. I'll say hello, but I can't talk long.
gremlin_net : urichhunt: there are far more than four seconds unaccounted for. There's all that time *before* the latest big bang.
hotvegasman : chicken are you a guy
brngreenback : that's okay, adkoths. He didn't ask for help.
gremlin_net : Hunter: no idea.
hotvegasman : ok
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:33:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: I assume they'll at least post a notice that we have to go renew the lease, right?
chickendra : That's me
theophrenie : adkoths, you have no special knowledge of god that we lack. give it up.
chickendra : Yep
chickendra : It's miserable
gremlin_net : adkoths: outside of the bible, there's nothing about this deity. It's a character trapped in a badly-written novel.
hotvegasman : lmfao
gremlin_net : Hunter: probably.
chickendra : My glands are so swollen, and my throat is killing me.
chickendra : FLOL!
chickendra : Hell no.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:34:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gremlin_net : Hunter: they probably posted it; some imbecile probably stole it.
chickendra : A-Jesus-choo.
adkoths : yes of course when you are discarding one idea on the basis of just lack of evidence which is not possible at least with present eqipments or tools of research its preposterous and biased and double standar5d.
brngreenback : Maybe they'll pay rent, too.
theophrenie : chickendra, gargle with Listerine 3 x a day.
seraphina22 : Speaking of novels..You guys should all read "I, Lucifer" by Glen Duncan
gremlin_net : adkoths: why is it not possible? Is this deity not a material substance?
gadgetfiend2002 : lol firebird
theophrenie : can't see firebird. Why?
brngreenback : st4nd4rdz
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:35:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
mmmmmyid : hunter.......is this the first time your lease has been up for renewal?
adkoths : what do you mean?
gremlin_net : Hunter: I already got a renewal notice.
jfirebird1 : theo thats because im a spirit:)):))
brngreenback : well, standards, except the number 4 kinda looks like an a
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: you did?
theophrenie : I see ya now, silly.
mmmmmyid : lease renewals suck
hunter_the_crazychick : mmmmmyid: they shouldn't.
chickendra : Someone in work called on Jesus to get us smokers to stop smoking. She said when she was "saved" she lost all desire to smoke, curse, go clubbing, etc. All her calling on Jesus did for me was want me to stuff six cigarettes in my mouth and smoke them all at once.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:36:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : What the fuck can they do? You've already been paying rent for twelve months.
gremlin_net : adkoths: the bible, which you've discarded, describes this deity in a specific way. But, not basing this deity on the biblcal definition, then where are you getting the idea that it exists at all?
mmmmmyid : they suck in that they forced one to leave a place in 6 month or 1 yr intervals
mmmmmyid : force*
chickendra : Sounds like a Baptism!
adkoths : grem we even havent got full idea of what material is made up of....ok you will come out with answers like energy and other vagues like it.
hunter_the_crazychick : mmm: yeah. That's true.
gremlin_net : adkoths: you haven't answered the question. What suggests that deities exist at all?
adkoths : .i havent read bible..
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:37:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
chickendra : Another silly child
seraphina22 : You know what I find interesting? Clearly you guys have a thirst for spiritual knowledge..or you wouldn't come to rooms like this. Secretly you're hoping that something is going to happen to change the way you feel. Either that, or you're on a quest from Satan, one or the other.
theophrenie : chickendra, I stopped smoking, drinking, and having sex. It was the worst 30 seconds of my life.
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: so when are you going to go do that?
chickendra : FLOL
gremlin_net : seraphina22: neither.
mmmmmyid : in maryland, once you fulfilled a lease, you were not obligated to sign another. you automatically put on a month to month basiss and need only give a month's notice of your leaving
brngreenback : seraphina, I'm on a quest from santa
seraphina22 : Why then?
chickendra : Too funny theoph
mmmmmyid : you were*
gremlin_net : Hunter: at the end of the month.
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: it's the end of the fucking month.
chickendra : praise the lord.
the_chainsawpsycho : Gremlin: It's payday.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : is back
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ myid, you're from Maryland?
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: last business day of the month.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:38:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
the_chainsawpsycho : wonders if myid is a Kennedy
gremlin_net : seraphina22: I already told you why. People keep asserting that deities exist, even though, in point of fact, they don't. So I'm awaiting evidence leading to the testing of deities to record them factually.
mmmmmyid : seraphina, OR seeing how we hold a minority belief we come here to speak with others like us that we dont encounter in our day to day lives
chickendra : You must be very religious to have lived that long. Only biblical figures have such long life spans.
mmmmmyid : kitty, yep
seraphina22 : But why come to these rooms?
gremlin_net : Hunter: today is not the last business day of June.
adkoths : well looking at the great organisation of universe,the way things behave even electrons moving in a manner which is by some rules...things like this make me think tht their is a organiser.
theophrenie : braze the lard, braze chesses.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ What part? I'm in MD. Not from here, though.
hotvegasman : lmfao
dove_1966 : is away (Auto-Away)
mmmmmyid : seraphina, i just answered that
gremlin_net : seraphina22: because I know people here.
theophrenie : cheeses^
seraphina22 : If you don't believe..so be it..why not go to a Atheists Unite room..or something.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:39:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gremlin_net : seraphina22: initially, I was researching a book. Then I wrote it. Now it's more recreational.
brngreenback : adkoths, what "great organization"? It's a bunch of particles bumping into eachother
mmmmmyid : seraphina, that's pretty much what this is
seraphina22 : Is it published?
theophrenie : seraphina, I believe in one less god than you.
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: I think they expect you to renew now, because they haven't given us our rent printout yet....
chickendra : It's called having an accent that is different than yours. He speaks fine, you are a young idiot
gremlin_net : seraphina22: because the christians unctuously troll their ways into those, too.
mmmmmyid : seraphina, 80 percent of the time, there are no theists actively talking in here
hunter_the_crazychick : That usually happens on like, the 26th or 27th.
dove_1966 : is back
gremlin_net : Hunter: fine. I don't care.
seraphina22 : Well then they should change its name.
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: I care. I like living somewhere, though.
seraphina22 : Very misleading
mmmmmyid : seraphina, even if the name was changed, christians will still come in
theophrenie : No one will try to save me in those rooms.
seraphina22 : But then again..nobody ever sticks to the topic in any of these rooms.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:40:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
chickendra : Liltabby is our future. Scary isn't it?
mmmmmyid : there have been rooms such as "atheist chat" etc
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: and you know how much these people suck. They lost my fucking cheque and tried to accuse us of not paying rent, after all.
johntheantibaptist : liltabby please quit yelling
seraphina22 : And Atheists always come into the Christian rooms too.
adkoths : who is this chickendra
mmmmmyid : they are always bombarded by christians looking for trouble
chickendra : LOL! Speaking in tongues.
the_chainsawpsycho : Reason: Skipping work today?
reason_over_faith : sup fellow chat losers?
gremlin_net : seraphina22: I agree. Initially, the room was called Theist vs Atheist Debate, which was correct. But we had enough morons tell us 'I'm not a theist or a atheist, I'm a christian' that someone changed it.
mmmmmyid : seraphina, indeed. its quite annoying
reason_over_faith : chain, you bet.
chickendra : Koolaid anyone?
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Morning reason.
hotvegasman : chicken shes our past
reason_over_faith : Fuck that place.
reason_over_faith : Kitty.
hotvegasman : reason
adkoths : grem you there/
reason_over_faith : vegasd
reason_over_faith : -d
gremlin_net : adkoths: yeah.
theophrenie : I didn't know that gremlin
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:41:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
the_chainsawpsycho : I have to work a little this afternoon. ick.
reason_over_faith : chain, doing?
hotvegasman : lmfao
mmmmmyid : seraphina, you could also argue the opposite...that christians that come in here are doubting their faith and looking for exposure to the opposite belief
the_chainsawpsycho : Reason: Fixing a relative's computer.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ When did you show up? You always sneak in.
reason_over_faith : chain, ahh
gremlin_net : theophrenie: didn't you? I guess it's been a while. That was actually back in the twentieth century.
seraphina22 : That's true
chickendra : Praise the lord.
the_chainsawpsycho : Kitty: I'm always right behind you... staring at your ass. : )
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : laughs
mmmmmyid : seraphina, and surely there are both of those in here.....atheists that doubt and christians that doubt. by and large, however, most people who come in here are VERY firm in whatever they believe
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:42:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
reason_over_faith : chain, ugh.
chickendra : LOL! God is so needy.
the_chainsawpsycho : Reason: I have weird people showing up at my door asking for IT help, now.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : has a rather flat behind
adkoths : Whyever cultre history and civilisation we have is bcos of religion..
gremlin_net : mmmmmyid: actually, I don't believe in anything. But I don't have much doubt over the things I'm willing to assert.
the_chainsawpsycho : "You may not remember me, but we're related. Can you help with my computer?"
reason_over_faith : chain, word of mouth business? Prehaps you have found your niche.
the_chainsawpsycho : hehehehehehehe
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Chain, I have several friends who work in computer fields, and call the_kitty_is_not_so_witty to help them fix their computer. Wtf is up with that?
gremlin_net : adkoths: not entirely.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:43:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
reason_over_faith : Kitty, so are you trying to say you are not ass slapworthy?
adkoths : why grem/
the_chainsawpsycho : I tend to simply mock people in the computer field, when they ask me for help.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ And of course, being the nice person I am, help. :-l
brngreenback : do'h
seraphina22 : Anyway
reason_over_faith : brn
brngreenback : reason
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Reason, it's not, really. Rather flat and boring. Which is ok, I don't mind.
gremlin_net : adkoths: which religion led to Microsoft Exploder?
dominookie85 : God rules...lol..j/k
mmmmmyid : gremlin, indeed. but i put it in terms of "belief" to keep it simple
reason_over_faith : kitty, uh huh.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:44:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
urichhunt : who is god?
theophrenie : seraphina, you could not spend your whole life alone content with just the love of god.
mmmmmyid : one can certainly put atheism in terms of belief. it bothers me not
gremlin_net : mmmmmyid: I guess. Most people won't know the difference.
the_chainsawpsycho : Kitty: I have a hard time believing your bum is flat when you're stacked so well.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ She's a fucking senior network something or other, and calls ME for help.
tswonderwoman : lol niggaru?
reason_over_faith : hey I like that...ass slapworthy. It has such a mysgonist ring to it.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ I have hips, but my butt just kind of is pointy, almost
seraphina22 : Well I probably could...but luckily that's not all I have.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Wow that came out weird. *laughs*
the_chainsawpsycho : I'd have to see pointy.
mmmmmyid : kitty....pointy is boat loads better than flat
reason_over_faith : LOL
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:45:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
the_chainsawpsycho : hehehehehehehe
mmmmmyid : flat asses = tragedy
adkoths : grem you can go further to ask which religion gave idea to first man to sow seeds and harvest crop? i will not have answer as it is foolish to ask it.?
adkoths : but ppl like you keep asking it...
chickendra : If you record the word Jesus, and play it backwards, is it Satan?
theophrenie : No you couldn't seraphina, humans need real love, companionship, from real three dimensional beings, not invisble make believe spirits.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:46:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gremlin_net : mmmmmyid: the issue with putting atheism in terms of belief is illiteracy. To believe that deities don't exist is to not believe that they do exist, without splitting the infinitive. The problem is when these illiterate 'tards infer that to mean a positive belief in a negative condition, which is a paradox.
dominookie85 : lol
seraphina22 : Says who?
reason_over_faith : yes theo has his blow up doll. That is 3 dimensional.
brngreenback : That's actually not that foolish a question; societies were a lot more holistic back then, and tribal elders where basically objects of worship.
the_chainsawpsycho : I need to pick up some allergy medication. Ugh.
jfirebird1 : sandy:x
seraphina22 : Happiness cannot depend on someone else. There's a word for people like you..I think it's co-dependant.
reason_over_faith : speaking of ass slapworthy....hi sandy.
gremlin_net : adkoths: oxen worship led to the agricultural revolution.
theophrenie : Says honest human beings!
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : James, ya hunka hunka burnin love.
hunter_the_crazychick : wonders why her foot is suddenly tingling and painful.
brngreenback : Your education came from the same place your church was, and the same people that defended your village.
the_chainsawpsycho : Thanks God, for making me sneeze like a some bitch. : (
adkoths : grem what you said could be reversly true.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:47:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
mmmmmyid : grem, indeed.
reason_over_faith : chain, spring allergies?
gremlin_net : adkoths: it could be. But it would be inaccurate.
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: I need your help.
reason_over_faith : hunter, you are about to have a stroke
the_chainsawpsycho : Reason: I've never really had them before, but it seems like it.
theophrenie : You are totally co-dependent on an invisible friend, how nutty is that?
adkoths : iun a sense you see it..
brngreenback : adkoths, oxen don't farm or ranch.
seraphina22 : Nutty is in the eye of the beholder.
johntheantibaptist : jfire i iggyed liltabby long ago
brngreenback : So, the reverse is not true.
gremlin_net : adkoths: unless you mean a negative belief in a positive condition, since negative beliefs alone are paradoxical.
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: I need a pen. Preferably SOON.
adkoths : positive and negative things are relative..its a word jugglery...
reason_over_faith : chain, I saw on the news that ith all the rain we had, there is so much pollen, folks who do nto have allergies will be sneezing.
theophrenie : Nutty is in the eye of the nutty.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : has virtually no allergies
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:48:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
seraphina22 : You said it
zsa_zsa_galore2002 :
dominookie85 : hello
jfirebird1 : theo can u see me now
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : vegas
gremlin_net : adkoths: I assume that 'word jugglery' is a form of the illiteracy I was just talking about.
the_chainsawpsycho : zsa_zsa: If it interferes with getting my groove on, I'm going to really be pissed.
hunter_the_crazychick : glares at Gremlin.
reason_over_faith : That is because you are always inside on the net kitty!!!
dominookie85 : assume is not good
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : chain, sometimes I sneeze for hours.
adkoths : lol
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Reason, actually I go outside to work on my bonsai pretty often.
gremlin_net : Hunter: I don't have a pen handy.
theophrenie : OK seraphina, I will tell all the men at school, you have sex only with your invisble friend in mind. LOL
the_chainsawpsycho : I have some of the finest filters available on my central air.
hotvegasman : rev ga whore
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:49:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : Find. please?
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Or to sunbathe, as the case today. I probably will later.
gremlin_net : Hunter: I'm busy.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ The sun is actually out *rolls eyes*
adkoths : still you are doing tht illiterate acts .
the_chainsawpsycho : Maybe I'll pick up another one and stack the fuckers.
seraphina22 : Is that supposed to be funny?
chickendra : I've got Jesus in my heart, and my chest is killing me. God has to provide better for those who have Jesus in their hearts. He must give us bigger breasts. Jesus aint a midget. He takes up a lot of room in the heart.
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: I have to start keeping track of shit like this. It helps the doctors.
gremlin_net : adkoths: what am I doing which could be construed as illiterate?
reason_over_faith : yes, but it will rain again tomorrow.
gremlin_net : Hunter: go ahead.
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : :O
theophrenie : seraphina, die a lonely, horny old maid. it's your choice.
the_chainsawpsycho : Vegas has his own cruise liner.
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: if I move, it might stop. Then I"ll forget.
seraphina22 : Now that.....is funny.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:50:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
chickendra : I do, and he ignores me
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : reason, so much rain this spring our pear tree has blight.
reason_over_faith : I am haning, waitnig to pick up the brat from gymnastics practice to take her to see Finding Nemo.
seraphina22 : It's funny how you people view believers.
reason_over_faith : sandy, wow!!
gremlin_net : Hunter: you're in front of two different computers. At least one has WordPad on it. Use it.
chickendra : That is why I am an agnostic now
seraphina22 : The image you have of us.
reason_over_faith : well it is supposed to rain like hell tomorrow sandy
hunter_the_crazychick : Need pen. draw.
brngreenback : seraphina, especially with beer goggles on
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : oy
gremlin_net : seraphina22: it's scientific how I view believers.
chickendra : I'm starting to doubt the big J, and the big G
reason_over_faith : kee p doubting
adkoths : if i say tht athiesm is negation of theism...
seraphina22 : I asked a group like you to guess what I was like once..and they were all like "35..married..kids..church..apron"
adkoths : grem
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:51:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gremlin_net : adkoths: who said atheism was the negation of theism?
seraphina22 : I think it's hilarious
gremlin_net : seraphina22: you think deities exist.
hotvegasman : iggy him
hunter_the_crazychick : Fine. I just grabbed a sharpie and wrote on my foot.
chickendra : Big old daddy is a child of Jesus
mmmmmyid : hehehe seraphina
revspecies116 : *** bigold_daddy will be ignored.
adkoths : athiest=whos is not theist...
reason_over_faith : LOL
theophrenie : seraphina, because you are all of a mindset that sterotypes yourselves as humans a cut above normal humans, worshippers of a spirit while you deny your flesh for god.
reason_over_faith : atheist= one who lacks belief in a god or gods.
gremlin_net : adkoths: right. Atheism means 'without theism'.
mmmmmyid : seraphina, let's go to a christian room and ask them what i am like...it will be equally as hilarious
gremlin_net : adkoths: so what?
the_chainsawpsycho : Voice chat is even more insane than usual, today.
hotvegasman : big daddy welcome to the superbin for christian dumbass
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : wtf, overload on the planet Idiot today?
seraphina22 : Lol...Never judge a man by the size of his font
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:52:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
reason_over_faith : chain, I stopped that.
brngreenback : heh, touche
hunter_the_crazychick : is going to have to have a nice, long talk with Gremlin about the importance of what she's trying to do.
adkoths : its straight now work out artistcally to fit it in a so called positive sentence.
reason_over_faith : I am sick of hearing repty's annoying twang.
theophrenie : bitch slap repty
reason_over_faith : theo, amen
the_chainsawpsycho : Reason: I don't even hear Repty. He would seem sane, at this point.
adkoths : this is ridiculous...
reason_over_faith : chain, lucky you.
theophrenie : thwack!
deadman_932 : zsa:x
reason_over_faith : little perv.
mmmmmyid : repty in his excited state is part of the reason i stopped listening to voice
gremlin_net : adkoths: okay. I'm a realist.
hotvegasman : dead
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:53:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deadman_932 : hey vegas
gremlin_net : adkoths: theists are arealists.
adkoths : there were days when barbarians could have destroyed civilisation but religion saved it...
gremlin_net : adkoths: there. Now you guys are the negatives.
johntheantibaptist : hey zsa zsa
deadman_932 : damn, vegas, you have a zillion names
adkoths : what is reality grem?
hotvegasman : yep
reason_over_faith : grem yes. Just like agnostics are closet theists...
reason_over_faith : snicker
brngreenback : Okay, okay. You're twenty four, female, and a student.
leviathoniii : =;
mmmmmyid : adkoths, surely you conceded that relgion has also destroyed many civilizations/cultures
gremlin_net : adkoths: reality is the collection of things known to be factual.
theophrenie : adkoths, religion has destroyed civilizations, empires,whole races of peoples.
deadman_932 : i am, baron?
deadman_932 : wow
brngreenback : Or, you're the type of man that lies on his yahoo profile
deadman_932 : am i cute?
brngreenback : Not you, deadman
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ From moghazy81 in PM hi
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:54:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deadman_932 : oh
deadman_932 : darn, now i feel...used
mmmmmyid : concede*
brngreenback : deadman, and I'm not buying you a beer, no matter how cute you are.
hotvegasman : lmfao
chickendra : What? I can no longer hear anything. Tee hee hee
gremlin_net : reason_over_faith: I don't consider agnostics to be closet theists. Necessarily.
adkoths : go on to history books again religion saved .i repate it relgion saved.
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : :O
mmmmmyid : types funkily when still half asleep
theophrenie : Our god is better than your god and we will murder you all to prove it.
deadman_932 : sexist bastard
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ From moghazy81 in PM what a beauty pic
the_chainsawpsycho : hehehehehehehe
adkoths : go to world history if at all you can think of world outside america.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : shakes her head
reason_over_faith : from the_kitty_is_not_so_witty: I like to be put in a bubble bath of lime green jello-o and spanked with a dead gerbil....
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:55:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Grem, that's because they're not.
deadman_932 : you have beauty pic. sex me now, plz?
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ From moghazy81 in PM may i know ur asl?
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ The jello bit is good, the dead gerbil bit is not
the_chainsawpsycho : Reason: She says that to a lot of people.
adkoths : dead who has beutiful pic....
reason_over_faith : kitty, hey, that is YOUR preference...
mmmmmyid : adkoths, yes. great. great. but again, surely you can concede that just as religion has "saved" some cultures it has ravaged and destroyed others
reason_over_faith : Chain, so I heard.
chickendra : We're all just high on Jesus Christ.
brngreenback : adkoths, you do, you lucky guy
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : looks at chain
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:56:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gremlin_net : Anyway....
reason_over_faith : looks at floor.
hotvegasman : if kitty is gonna have sex with a gerbil it better damn well be alive
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Vegas, I would never subject a gerbil to myself
brngreenback : ha
reason_over_faith : vegas, she said dead.
hotvegasman : lmfao
the_chainsawpsycho : "My name is Kitty. I like long walks on the beach, cuddling, and hardcore BDSM."
reason_over_faith : See?
theophrenie : If you carefull study world history and keep count of all the people who have been slaughtered in the name of onne god or another, one religion or another, all the wars, the count approaches over 100,000,000 people, that million!
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ :))
adkoths : grem you not leaving are you?
chickendra : Jesus is too tall. It makes my chest hurt to try and cram him in my heart.God really should have given bigger boobs.
reason_over_faith : LOL
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:57:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
reason_over_faith : nice chick
gremlin_net : adkoths: you're arguing two different things here. Religion could be nothing but goodness, practised by every organism in the universe. It wouldn't make deities exist in fact.
theophrenie : chick :)
xorbie : Is that what passes for humor here?
slow_monkey : Jfire, so you say you do not believe in God ehh?
reason_over_faith : xorbie, wait, it gets worse.
brngreenback : chick, with that mentality, you will go to heaven, whether there is one or not.
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : cyber church?
the_chainsawpsycho : Grasshoppa: Sometimes it gets sleazy.
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : lol
chickendra : Even God loves the almighty buck.
mike111569us : someone cybering
xorbie : sleazy :O
reason_over_faith : mike, all the time.
reason_over_faith : Chain, sometimes?
mike111569us : i love it
reason_over_faith : ALL the time.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:58:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
adkoths : see you come again to deities dont exist....
mike111569us : **==**==
theophrenie : chick, did you gargle yet?
the_chainsawpsycho : Reason: Well, most of the time.
xorbie : Whatever did happen to this room...
slow_monkey : ;)
gremlin_net : adkoths: I never left.
reason_over_faith : This whole room is about the art of geting ass.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Who is grasshoppa?
chickendra : Is there a cyber Jesus I can pray to to get rid of my sore throat?
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : Amen, brothah reason.
reason_over_faith : Just ask sandy.
adkoths : oh .....
xorbie : You mean the art of not getting ass?
the_chainsawpsycho : Gasshoppa is xorbie
reason_over_faith : see?
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Oh.
reason_over_faith : xorbie, no, getting ass.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ ty chain.
theophrenie : No chick. Use meds.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 09:59:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
fable_us : christian fuck thier mom
gremlin_net : adkoths: in point of fact, deities don't exist. That's the whole issue here. If evidence of deities is published, reviewed, and used to support deities in fact, then great. Until then, they remain definitively mythical.
the_chainsawpsycho : sneezes a few more times
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : Getting ass and being strangled at the same time.
reason_over_faith : Ass is a traded commidity on here. Like the S & P.
xorbie : Maybe if anyone in here actually did get some, I would agree
adkoths : its the belief tht god exist makes ppl live happily....
reason_over_faith : sandy, you know it!!
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : hands chain a Kleenex
gremlin_net : adkoths: so?
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : :))
chickendra : I know that theop. I could pray till I was blue in the face, and I wouldn't get any better.
zen4now1 : hello all
adkoths : if it hasnt been so they wouldnt have believed it.
johntheantibaptist : Slow monkey FYI there are over 2500 named gods please pick one
reason_over_faith : xorbie, you are new here huh?
xorbie : Belief in God does not really make people happy as far as I know... I mean for some people it does, but they appear to be the select minority
gremlin_net : adkoths: so pretending that deities exist makes some people happy. Deites are still mythical.
theophrenie : Theo.:)
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:00:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ From amanyusuf in PM hello
fable_us : staryy lick ur dad ballz
zen4now1 : is anyone reading today I am feeling really down i need help
brngreenback : Queludes make people happy.
xorbie : I visit here from time to time... but it seems to be getting shittier and shitter
fable_us : jews womens fuck thier own kids
deadman_932 : "reading?" you think this is a psychics room?
gremlin_net : Quaaludes exist in fact, though.
adkoths : grem i told you , you are proving it by neagation and by default....
xorbie : zen: You want help? Stop asking for readings, get your ass up and do something about it
reason_over_faith : From the_kitty_is_not_so_witty: Oh, if only these pervs knew I used to be man......
theophrenie : My screen name means Theo=God Phrenie= In the mind, means god is in peoples head only.
gremlin_net : adkoths: yeah; but that's a lie.
brngreenback : heh
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : throws a football at reason's head
brngreenback : jfire, wish I did.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:01:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
reason_over_faith : Kitty, hey, that should slow down the pms.
reason_over_faith : I did you a favor.
deadman_932 : hey zen4now, take a look at the title of this room
zen4now1 : xorbie you know that helps why did i think of that . jerk
zsa_zsa_galore2002 :
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ I doubt it'll help, reason.
adkoths : what lie..grem....
zsa_zsa_galore2002 :
reason_over_faith : that is right kitty. you used to be a quarterback.
gremlin_net : theophrenie: philodei would be more accurate.
brngreenback : Wow, kitty used to be a guy?
reason_over_faith : brn, apparently.
domandrach95 : what's wrong zen?
fable_us : i love fucking jews womens kids
deadman_932 : plugs zsa's nose with his fingers
reason_over_faith : Brn, she got the plumbing special at Johns Hopkins.
gremlin_net : adkoths: the lie in which you claim that the lack of belief in deities proves them real by default.
xorbie : zen: I am glad to help.. anytime you need someone to remind you that lazy fat ass bitches that always look elsewhere to solve all their problems will never get shit done, just come to me
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:02:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brngreenback : HA!
theophrenie : why Grem?
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Reason, let me put it this way: If I threw a football at you, I would probably hit myself with it.
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : That will just make my brains explode out my ears.
theophrenie : love of god?
the_chainsawpsycho : I should get tested for some allergies. Too bad I hate hospitals.
chickendra : How shall I call you? Say that I am that am. Uh. yeah. okay.
gremlin_net : theophrenie: philos is mind; deos is deity. Greek.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Chain..... allergy tests are icky
reason_over_faith : kitty, throws like a girl eh? wow kitty, they do good work up at Hopkins huh?
reason_over_faith : chain, those scratch tests suck
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ brngreenback, actually I did cheerleading for awhile.
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : Chain, I just suffer too...and pop a couple of benedryl when I get sick of sneezing.
theophrenie : OK grem. ty
the_chainsawpsycho : The li'l baby Jesus told me that hospitals are evil.
brngreenback : ha!
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:03:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
reason_over_faith : kitty, what a surprise!!! 8-|
gremlin_net : theophrenie: theos is the belief regarding deos, not deos itself.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Yeah reason- I passed out. And that was just the ones on the back, I passed out before they did the injections in the shoulder.
mythterjesus : <
theophrenie : I see
brngreenback : goit then.
chickendra : When he said I am the alpha and the omega, he meant I am the beginning and end of all those, and Alpha and Omega is greek.
gremlin_net : theophrenie: as for phrenis...I'm not sure what that's Latin for; but I don't think it's mind.
reason_over_faith : kitty, you wuss!
brngreenback : If you have a goiter, why are you wasting time in chat?
fable_us : myth u like ur dad ballz
chickendra : beginning and end of all things I meant
reason_over_faith : brn, I was about to ask that.
mythterjesus : <
tony_met2002 : :))
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Reason :P I quit after my first season of non-championships. The girls were too obnoxious.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:04:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brngreenback : reason, beat you to it :p
reason_over_faith : kitty, they all are?
theophrenie : I look up the root ', and in my dictionary thats the meaning I got.
mythterjesus : ROFL firebird
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Yeah pretty much. Hence my quitting.
reason_over_faith : cheerleaders= iq of deck furniture.
theophrenie : word^
mythterjesus : Shalom, hotvegas
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : That's an insult to deck furniture everywhere.
hotvegasman : sholom
gremlin_net : theophrenie: it could be. Dictionaries tend to bastardise things into catchy sounds >:)
reason_over_faith : sandy, forgive me.
hotvegasman : shalom
deadman_932 : lol, zsa
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:05:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
reason_over_faith : grem yes, like the word VAGINA.
brngreenback : cheerleaders=the only way computer geeks could get laid in high school
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : not seeing theo or kitty.
theophrenie : Yeh, and they use the same word to define the word. Like " god, a god"
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ brngreenback, that's because I didn't go to your school :P
reason_over_faith : sandy, you should, she is cheerleading.
gremlin_net : zsa_zsa_galore2002: chat.yahoo.sux is probably puking. Kill it and relaunch it.
brngreenback : Kitty, heh.
deadman_932 : zombie:x
zombiehatesyou : Deadman:X
reason_over_faith : brn, get shots!!
adkoths : grem what do you do?i mean stdent or ....
zombiehatesyou : Yahoo hates me today.
mythterjesus : HIya Zombs
reason_over_faith : hi zombie!!
reason_over_faith : long time.
deadman_932 : yahoo hates everyone, hon
reason_over_faith : How are you?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:06:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
mythterjesus : summer vacation has started I see
zombiehatesyou : Uh, hello, Reason...
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : Afraid I'll lose more people doing that.
zombiehatesyou : I'm fine.
zombiehatesyou : waits for the catch
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : I should just go into YahELite.
reason_over_faith : coo.
gremlin_net : adkoths: vertebrate palaeontologist and novelist. Also, I have hobbies.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ lol
reason_over_faith : No catch.
zombiehatesyou : Hm.
brngreenback : "Hey, need some help with that algebra?"=the best pick up line ever when you're 17
zombiehatesyou : You usually just insult me. How odd.
reason_over_faith : I have not seen you here for awhile.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ See me now, zsa zsa?
adkoths : which novels have you released
reason_over_faith : if you come here a lot then I will insult you.
zombiehatesyou : has been around.
reason_over_faith : Okay?
reason_over_faith : I guess I have not then.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ lol brngreenback- I also did tutoring :P guys get pretty pathetic when they both need help and want to fuck you
mythterjesus : oh stop it rev
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:07:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : is away (Away)
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : A day without insults from reason is like a day without sunshine. :(
xorbie : Actually, the best pick up line if you are 17 these days is "I only have 1 or 2 STDs"
adkoths : what is your age?
zombiehatesyou : . o O ( I can't see Hunter again... )
gremlin_net : adkoths: few of them; most of them are sitting on CD, waiting for a window.
brngreenback : Kitty, ha, yeah.
hunter_the_crazychick : is back
hunter_the_crazychick : Zombie: i wasn't talkin'.
fable_us : tony u like ur dad cock
gremlin_net : adkoths: on the subject here, though, News of the Stoopid is a good one.
reason_over_faith : she is back.
chickendra : That religious and gospel music inspires hatred in me. It makes me want to kill someone.
hotvegasman : starry dont give up your day job you stink at singing
hunter_the_crazychick : looks at Zombie.
reason_over_faith : hnter is about to have a stroke.
zombiehatesyou : Yahoo must die.
mythterjesus : very sensible, gio
hunter_the_crazychick : Reason: I hope so.
theophrenie : chick, don't do it!
reason_over_faith : zombie, yes. Cursed free service.
adkoths : your profile is a bit shy ..afraid to disclose anything
chickendra : I won't
zombiehatesyou : Hunter: Don't have a stroke when I can't see you.
fable_us : tony u like ur dad ballz
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:08:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
theophrenie : :)
zombiehatesyou : wants to watch, dammit.
gremlin_net : adkoths: is it?
mythterjesus : We'll see more kiddies like that now that school is over for the summer
reason_over_faith : lol
reason_over_faith : aww the love in here...
reason_over_faith : touching...
zombiehatesyou : Mytherjesus: That you, Deah?
brngreenback : woah, reason was right!
brngreenback : Oh, she's back.
gremlin_net : adkoths: oh. I never finished this one. I'll have to do that.
chickendra : God and Jesus make people sick in the head
zombiehatesyou : attaches to Hunter
hunter_the_crazychick : Zombie?
hunter_the_crazychick : crawls into zombie's cleavage.
mythterjesus : Yes, zombs. <
brngreenback : Damnit, back in a bit.
zombiehatesyou : Deah: Sneaky bitch.
gremlin_net : adkoths: over twenty-one.
reason_over_faith : hi deah
mythterjesus : HIya reason
adkoths : just curious
xorbie : Over 21? wow
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:09:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
xorbie : geezer
the_chainsawpsycho : is away (Not at my Desk)
wolfeman_psycho : is away (Not at my Desk)
fable_us : tony y u booted zsa_zsa_galore2002
adkoths : oh it could be anything 21----100
chickendra : When we die, we will simply cease to exist.
gremlin_net : adkoths: it's a strange question on the 'net. In here, the only thing of importance is mental age. Chronology is immaterial. Unless you're hitting on someone, maybe.
reason_over_faith : when we die, we exist in atomic form.
johntheantibaptist : hell is in micigan it is a tourist trap
hunter_the_crazychick : is tempted to send Gremlin to this messageboard....
reason_over_faith : our atoms spread all over.
xorbie : When we die, we are dead
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:10:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hotvegasman : lmfao
theophrenie : Yes chick, we won't even know we are dead, but still, don't kill the morons, we need them to entertain us here.
mythterjesus : I saw a pic of it's sign freezing, Dio. Great pic
reason_over_faith : So unless consciousness is at the atomic level, yes, we be gone.
adkoths : still its itching me...
chickendra : I wouldn't kill anyone.
johntheantibaptist : dio did you know the is a rock formation in the camien islands named hell as well
hotvegasman : slow back off your mic a little
adkoths : you can help
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : john: didn't know that. thanks
chickendra : I am a peaceful atheist. If I killed someone, that would make me a Christian
reason_over_faith : theo, man created god and jesus to keep the minimum wage crowd happy. So when you get served ni a fast food place or see some fnudie digging a ditch, thank jesus!!!
theophrenie : I beleive you chick, I am sure you are a decnet young lady.
theophrenie : decent^
slow_monkey : yells, "For Crying out loud!"
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:11:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deadman_932 : zsa:x
slow_monkey : yells "Hey Kool Aid!" and crashes into a brick wall
slow_monkey : chuckles in amusement
brngreenback : there.
gremlin_net : xorbie: I assumed that, based on Ecclesiates 9.10. But then I found out that declining to believe in the mormon deities turns me into Superman. So those are the deities I really don't believe in now. It's explained better at http://gremlin.net/main.html
slow_monkey : has fallen and can't get up
slow_monkey : has fallen and can't get up
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : Joe :X
slow_monkey : ducks out of the way
slow_monkey : ducks out of the way
slow_monkey : busts a move
reason_over_faith : if she is a decent youn lady, she would NOT be in here theo.
slow_monkey : Hey room you can create custom emotions by editing the emote_user.dat file
michael_monzel : hello room
slow_monkey : considers investing in mutual funds
zombiehatesyou : wb Baron
brngreenback : thanks, zombie
mythterjesus : LOL< reason. I read a statement like that in a book I was reading " the bible was invented to keep the poor from beating the rich to death"
zombiehatesyou : I can't see Theo, either.
johntheantibaptist : If you want to go to nowhere it is in arizona
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ I am NEVER understood the point of those vile creatures.
theophrenie : slow monkey, knock it off.
reason_over_faith : deah, it is true.
zombiehatesyou : Fuckin' Yahoo.
xorbie : Um... thats nice... what exactly is that in response to?
starry_skies1969 : Glory to the Lord
reason_over_faith : I am never understood.
reason_over_faith : hmm.
adkoths : why are you afraid of telling your age..?
starry_skies1969 : Glory to the king of kings
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Not you, reason.
reason_over_faith : Nope, I think that is incorrect.
theophrenie : starry, you are already headed to ignore.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:12:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
xorbie : I don't recall giving a shit about what you deities you decline to believe in
adkoths : is it in fouties.
deadman_932 : glory to ignore
gremlin_net : xorbie: the bit about ceasing to exist after death. The mormons told me that atheists get to be superhuman after death.
hunter_the_crazychick : pokes zombie.
reason_over_faith : what vile creatures?
zombiehatesyou : prods Hunter
adkoths : fourties
zombiehatesyou : Wot?
xorbie : I never said we cease to exist
hotvegasman : diog im not getting any numbers in the box
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Hmmm. Now I have a song stuck in my head. Thanks.
starry_skies1969 :
hunter_the_crazychick : Zombie: nufin'. Jus' readin stuff.
chickendra : Slowmonkey is suffering from Christian brain rot, and will now be ignored.
adkoths : fourty's
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Reason- the ones who emote constantly
gremlin_net : xorbie: right.
reason_over_faith : Oh
reason_over_faith : alias!!
zombiehatesyou : Readin' somethin' good?
aliassumpution : hey reason....how are you?
reason_over_faith : most likely reptile porn zombie.
theophrenie : When morons come to this room and post huge fonts to get attention, I don't reward them with anymore attention.
starry_skies1969 : in the begining
reason_over_faith : alias, glad the rain stopped. Taking the FX out today.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:13:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
zombiehatesyou : Hah.
enki_in_the_abzu : hi all
brngreenback : Who is xorbie?
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : can now see theo and kitty.
starry_skies1969 : God created the heavens
zombiehatesyou : Hey Enki.
mythterjesus : HIya enki
xorbie : I am
gremlin_net : theophrenie: CapsLocked morons get filtred.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Hunter, guess what.
brngreenback : Ah, okay
gremlin_net : starry_skies1969: evidently not.
aliassumpution : oh man reason-----sounds like fun.....enjoy!!:D
zombiehatesyou : cannot see Theo or Kitty...grrr...brb
reason_over_faith : I shall
brngreenback : starry, where exactly are the "heavens", anyway?
theophrenie : OK Grem, I will set it.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : tackles zsa zsa
starry_skies1969 : why wont you all just have a blessed day
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : :))
reason_over_faith : mocks the state troopers in their crown vics..
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : Watch it, I'm old, you might break something.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:14:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ lol
mythterjesus : Lower the caps. Lower them slowly and nobody will get hurt
zombiehatesyou : Eh. Didn't work.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ I tackle gently, no worries.
deadman_932 : zsa, i'll be gentle
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : laughs at the booter. Lame ass.
reason_over_faith : sandy, definately NOT your hyman.
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : reason, you prick.
xorbie : I created God
chickendra : That must have been a mighty big load of spunk God shot
gremlin_net : theophrenie: I don't remember exactly what the setting is, but it seems to work well. It also kills spammers posting nothing but hyperlinks.
mythterjesus : <
slow_monkey : frowns at revspecies116
reason_over_faith : that was broken years ago.
slow_monkey : flirts with the room
enki_in_the_abzu : if you read the sumerian originals, the creation myth makes much more sense than the abridged version that appears in the bible
deadman_932 : mythter?
starry_skies1969 : may you all be blessed in the name of Jesus
slow_monkey : frowns in disgust
slow_monkey : frowns in disgust
reason_over_faith : zombie.
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : 32 years ago, to be exact.
christianzombievampire : There we go.
gremlin_net : theophrenie: this is all in YahELite, of course; it might work differently in other things.
mythterjesus : <
starry_skies1969 : blessed in full measure
xorbie : enki: No it does not. The fact that you just said that a myth makes sense makes me want to slap you
deadman_932 : hey deah:)
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : enki: based on who's interpretation
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : :))
enki_in_the_abzu : hey deah!
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:15:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
mythterjesus : HIya enki
gremlin_net : starry_skies1969: may Odin send you to an eternity of torture in Nastrand.
reason_over_faith : Okay...everyone say helo now and knock it off.
deadman_932 : zombalina:x
enki_in_the_abzu : like the new name....hehe
brngreenback : starry_skies, thanks. And may you get laid by captain america while wayne gretzky watches.
christianzombievampire : Deadman:X
ki_dud666 : who gave god the idea that he/she was lonely... what the fuck?
reason_over_faith : UGH
mythterjesus : me too, I"m having fun with this one.
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : That's my maiden name, reason.
enki_in_the_abzu : lol
reason_over_faith : tramp?
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : LOL
hunter_the_crazychick : breathes.
mythterjesus : I especially like to toke up, forgive people and then send out for pizza
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : Ya bastard.
brngreenback : There, now that we're done exchanging pleasantries
reason_over_faith : LOL
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Hunter, why are you breathing?
christianzombievampire : Hunter: Breathing kills. Stop it at once.
enki_in_the_abzu : hehe
hunter_the_crazychick : Baron: you filthy fuck.
hunter_the_crazychick : giggles.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:16:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
johntheantibaptist : i think god made man so man could invent the pizza
christianzombievampire : I still can't see Theo. This is upsetting me.
hunter_the_crazychick : kitty: bad oxygen addiction.
johntheantibaptist : he was hungry
jfirebird1 : mythter are u close to memphis8-}
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Ugh. Don't they have a patch for that, hunter?
brngreenback : Hunter, I figured it was the easiest way to demonstrate exactly what I hear when they say "bless you"
reason_over_faith : hunter, something stupid people seem to suffer from.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Oh, and guess what. Levels of Carcinogen Higher in Marlboro Cigarettes.
hunter_the_crazychick : kitty: workin' on it. I flunked out of rehab, though.
chickendra : Who is most susceptible to SARS? The elderly and very young?
deadman_932 : zombie, you might have to ask theo to re-enter
hunter_the_crazychick : laughs at kitty.
gremlin_net : Dihyrdogen monoxide kills. Ban it. Breathing dihydrogen monoxide is lethal.
mythterjesus : I t hink so, chick
hunter_the_crazychick : Kitty: here's a hint: don't smoke shit.
xorbie : Dead people are least susceptible to SARS
christianzombievampire : Theo, can you leave and come back so's I can see you? :|
reason_over_faith : Marlboro!! The pride of my state!!
hunter_the_crazychick : Marlboro = shit.
mythterjesus : So far, that's what's happening
mythterjesus : 24 cases
deadman_932 : <<, not susceptible to sars, then
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:17:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
mythterjesus : not deaths
jfirebird1 : myth jesus
xorbie : I guess not
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ The closest thing I come to smoking is sniffing. And I stick to shampoo.
christianzombievampire : Theo:X
brngreenback : Marlboros contain ass. It's a proven fact.
hunter_the_crazychick : Fuck, Marlboro even /stinks/.
deadman_932 : can you see theo now, ??
deadman_932 : hahah
mythterjesus : <
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : loves her melonrose shampoo
mythterjesus : bong. chit, even as MythterJesus I STILL CAN'T TYPE
reason_over_faith : << smokes chicken.
ki_dud666 : who wrote the bible? what was god's first miracle? how do we know the bible isn't a bunch of napkins out of a drunk tank?
theophrenie : « Yep I see dead, vampire
deadman_932 : quit pasting without a purpose, khaotic
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : yawns.
gremlin_net : Fat people sweat a lot, releasing dihydrogen monoxide into the air. And inhaling dihydrogen monoxide is lethal. Ban fat people, too.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:18:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brngreenback : Marlboros are the number one cause of retention of cigarettes from bumming.
reason_over_faith : is sad jesus had a bad hair day on the cross.....
seraphina22 : Why do you people limit yourselves to the image of Godin the Bible?
hunter_the_crazychick : knows cheap shitty cigarettes that smell better than marlboros.
deadman_932 : kahotic, you IDIOT, i said quit pasting without a purpose
seraphina22 : *God in
brngreenback : Camels, on the other hand, cause loss of cigarettes through the same phenomona
chickendra : I think it's like the West Nile Virus. You can get infected with it, but it probably won't kill you unless you are a very young child, or elderly.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: we don't. All deities are mythical.
hunter_the_crazychick : Baron: weird, huh?
christianzombievampire : Theo: How doin'?
revspecies116 : Khaotic - drop your caps, or I will ignore you
xorbie : Black is not white. However, white can be black. Therefore, God does not exist
jfirebird1 : wants to get kabonged:)):))
mythterjesus : I'm leeary of this alias. This morning as Mythterjesus I lost a nail.
xorbie : Sucker
theophrenie : « :-|
reason_over_faith : ugh
seraphina22 : Oh Jeez...not you again
mythterjesus : HIya sera
gremlin_net : mythterjesus: you should still have two nails left.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ What is, chickendra?
deadman_932 : prove WHAT wrong? that you pasted some one else's ideas and writings?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:19:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
expressoman2001 : Well, bye
seraphina22 : Hey
deadman_932 : YOU DID
theophrenie : « Is going to buy big water pipe and smoke tobacco in it.
brngreenback : seraphina, what deity would you like to discuss?
mythterjesus : <
reason_over_faith : I stick to cigars.
brngreenback : I mean, all we know about the christian deity is, well, what's in it's book.
christianzombievampire : I just figured out why I couldn't see Theo and Kitty when I was in Messenger.
gremlin_net : xorbie: yup.
hunter_the_crazychick : Zombie: why?
christianzombievampire : They both have those little tattoo things.
xorbie : Hahaha...let see how far that gets
hunter_the_crazychick : AHH>
reason_over_faith : LOL
khaotic_generati0n : =D>
yeticock : In 10 countries, including Japan and Germany, Marlboro cigarettes purchased locally had at least twice the amount of TSNAs, one of the major classes of carcinogens found in tobacco products, than competitor brands.
The findings, published in the latest edition of Nicotine & Tobacco Research, come at a time when worldwide demand for American-style, blended cigarettes is outpacing demand for other types of cigarettes.
brngreenback : If we were discussing, say, deionysis, I would look up his book.
theophrenie : « You can see my tattoo
brngreenback : I mangled the spelling on that, though
seraphina22 : Actually...this "book" you speak of represents the God of Judaism and Islam too..at least the Old Testament does.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:20:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
christianzombievampire : It's always been like that...when you have the tattoo it messes with messenger, so you can't see their text.
mythterjesus : <
zedechiah_the_messiah : Dionysus
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ xorbie- www.dhmo.com
chickendra : I'm sitting on a bible. Does that count?
gremlin_net : xorbie: it gets pretty far. The chairman of Greenpeace signed a petition to ban the use of dihydrogen monoxide.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ If you haven't seen it yet. Of course.
ki_dud666 : khaotic rev is asking you to drop caps
brngreenback : Seraphina, well, just the pentateuch. The rest of the "old testament" less so.
theophrenie : « zombie, you can't see this?
deadman_932 : zed = inevitably correct
mythterjesus : okay that was three warnings, khaotic. click
procktman : hello
christianzombievampire : I can see you now, Theo, because I am in YahELite.
theophrenie : « ah
revspecies116 : *** khaotic_generati0n will be ignored.
deadman_932 : khaotic, how about "fuck you?"
christianzombievampire : I wouldn't be able to see you in Messenger.
hunter_the_crazychick : theo: not in messenger, she can't. She's come over to the DARK SIDE though.
seraphina22 : Well anyway...no use in picking on Christians.
deadman_932 : asshole
ki_dud666 : lmao
christianzombievampire : Because you have that star thing by your name.
brngreenback : heh, alrighty
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : khaotic: caps in text is like yelling in the room. That's rude. Please stop
gremlin_net : xorbie: everything I'm warning about DHMO is true, too.
xorbie : gremlin :O you serious?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:21:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gremlin_net : xorbie: yup. It was filmed.
gothamcity2k : good afternoon
reason_over_faith : xians are the reason for the teasing!
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ zorbie, check out the site I posted.
xorbie : <<< put DHMO into everyone's drinking water... you beter watch out
revspecies116 : *** procktman will be ignored.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ :O
brngreenback : seraphina, actually, I usually only get nasty when a new age wiccan comes in.
deadman_932 : khaotic, since you don't seem to have the sense of a stump, fuck you
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ xorbie. Not zombie.
gremlin_net : DHMO becomes deadly at temperatures below 273K. Ban it.
chickendra : I love how murderers in prisons say they have been saved.
zedechiah_the_messiah : oh, the irony
deadman_932 : "your?"
xorbie : Meanwhile, khaotic is pretty entertaining
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : stabs her keyboard
deadman_932 : try "you're"
mythterjesus : <
brngreenback : Christians don't bother me as much. Their religion has some actual history to it.
hunter_the_crazychick : I think khaotic_generati0n just got himself an IotM nomination.
christianzombievampire : Kitty: Dental plans?
i_iggied_jesus : is away (Away)
reason_over_faith : brn, some.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:22:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deadman_932 : aww, mythter
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ What?
deadman_932 : :)
brngreenback : reason, more than sixty years, anyway
chickendra : Confessionals have toilet paper holders in them so the priests can tidy up after each confession
reason_over_faith : Being a former fundie myself brn, let me tell you the histocracy is rather vague.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Oh lol oops
seraphina22 : You know what though..The funny thing is..like them or hate them..They would go out of their ways to help you. (CHristians) I mean....save a few fundamentalist nutcases who preach hellfire and brimstone..Most Christians are about loving your neighbor and doing what you can to help the sick and afflicted. What's wrong with that?
goatonfire1 : Hey, y'all! This is my first time here. Someone in "Religion: 1" mentioned it. I'd never even noticed the User Rooms.
gremlin_net : Dihydrogen monoxide bans are the best way to trap sophistic morons.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ www.dhmo.org not .com
deadman_932 : "you corny"
hunter_the_crazychick : Zombie: http://www.dhmo.org
christianzombievampire : got something about dental plan
christianzombievampire : Oh.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : stabs herself as well
christianzombievampire : Hehe
mythterjesus : HIya goat
reason_over_faith : LOL
hotvegasman : goat hi
brngreenback : Reason, I'll take your word for it.
reason_over_faith : kitty is posting dental coverage for chatter!!
ki_dud666 : the bible is a bed time story to scare children to be good... it's nothing more than a ploy to make money and keep the kids inline
xorbie : seraph: Nothing is wrong with that, if it were true
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : kicks reason
reason_over_faith : s
theophrenie : « seraphina, you are wrong about most Christians.
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraphina, PEOPLE do that. its hardly restricted to christians
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:23:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deadman_932 : 38 moron, and you act like you're 12
mythterjesus : <
rendermaster : Good morning!
rendermaster : hot
brngreenback : Seraph, nothing wrong with that. Hell, it's nice when anyone acts in that manner.
deadman_932 : a helluva lot more than you,idiot
xorbie : I do not think there is any study whatsoever that proves that Christians are more likely to love their neighbor than anyone else
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Morning render
seraphina22 : I never said it was. Quit putting words into my mouth.
mythterjesus : <
gremlin_net : dihydrogen monoxide can be found in rivers throughout the US today. Ban it.
chickendra : I hate the Jerry Springer show
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : render :>
rendermaster : hiya, kitty :)
khaotic_generati0n : BOOOM
rendermaster : shalom, deah :)
mythterjesus : <
deadman_932 : hahah
rendermaster : I recognized the font
deadman_932 : what a dolt
ki_dud666 : the bible was an edited version of the ancient texts
goatonfire1 : Grasshoppa, oh, I'll bet they themselves have figures somewhere to prove it. :-))
rendermaster : reason, how areyou?
ki_dud666 : now it's crap
reason_over_faith : render, sick of the fucking rain.
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : He's his usual bastard self, reason.
goatonfire1 : Mythter, I was just about to ask you if you were deah. The font and color scheme.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:24:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
rendermaster : it's a beautiful day here in NYC
ki_dud666 : kiss my ass
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Reason, it's sunny here :D
reason_over_faith : I know he is sandy.
khaotic_generati0n : NETER-NU
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : lol
enki_in_the_abzu : khaotic....if the ancient stories were trying to poetically depict the origins of the solar system, please explain how they knew of all the members of the system (apparently according to their pantheons), when only 5 planets could be seen with the naked eye and they didnt have any other means to know that the outer planets even existed?
brngreenback : It's not raining down here....
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : I fucked that one up.
gremlin_net : Dihydrogen monoxide was present in the systems of all tested serial killers at the time of arrest. Ban it.
chickendra : People buried their dead because they discovered that a rotting dead corpse left exposed would make them sick.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : wiggles her sun in front of reason's face and gloats joyously
deadman_932 : Yahoo! ID: khaotic_generati0n
Real Name: Ptah Ra Anubis
Nickname: Ra
Location: Miami
Age: 28
Marital Status: Single
Gender: Male
Occupation: I teach Pan-African Socialism
reason_over_faith : Same here kitty, but it willrain tomorrow.
ki_dud666 : lmao
reason_over_faith : so hah!!
reason_over_faith : little brat.
deadman_932 : Hobbies: studying african pharoahs, researching black political movements on the african continent and here in america.
Latest News: The so-called black man here in america, and all other oppressed people must stand up and defend our survival !!!!!!!!!!
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : enki: :)) sitchen is an idiot
deadman_932 : hahaha
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Damn rain. *grumbles*
reason_over_faith : it is sunny and warm here.
seraphina22 : So what do you guys think of Ephraim and Manasseh?
hunter_the_crazychick : gets hooked on a different song.
reason_over_faith : I am afriad to go outside now!!
chickendra : Wrong. People buried their dead because they discovered that a rotting dead corpse left exposed would make them sick
hunter_the_crazychick : Goddamnit.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ lol seriously
rendermaster : what about them, seraphina?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:25:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
seraphina22 : I mean..if there's anything that can make you believe in biblical prophecies..it's those two.
khaotic_generati0n : Myths of creation generally present a symbolic view of birth: conditions befre creation suggest the uterine enviroment: darkness, liquid, stirring or churning movement, the 'eternal flux'... Often there is a suggestion of one entity inside another. 'when there was neither the creation, nor the sun, the moon, the planets, and the earth, and then darkness was enveloped in darkness'... Most creation myths speak of a splitting or an opening in the dark
ki_dud666 : it's not that i'm evil... i am... but it's more that i don't believe in god nor satan...
reason_over_faith : It has been so long since I saw the sun, I am like in religious awe.
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : seraphina: :))
goatonfire1 : People buried their dead to keep their neighbors from eating them. :D
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : laughs
gremlin_net : seraphina22: then we're safe; they don't make me believe.
brngreenback : Meaning there's nothing that can make me believe in biblical prophecies
seraphina22 : What's so funny?
khaotic_generati0n : The beginning of the existing world is signaled by the coming of light.
goatonfire1 : Not believing in god or satan has no connection with evil.
seraphina22 : Do you know the story though, Brngreen?
male21_eastanglia : i think the both these religons are a load of bollocks
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:26:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
mythterjesus : <
male21_eastanglia : lol
reason_over_faith : what prophecies?
ki_dud666 : listen to voice chat... i wasn't talking to you
gremlin_net : khaotic_generati0n: the beginning of the existing world? The existing world hasn't begun yet?
goatonfire1 : And let's be clear about this: we're not really talking about the existence of "God" or "Satan," are we? We're talking about the more general question of "gods," or other mythological figures.
enki_in_the_abzu : diogenes.....for an idiot he is certainly being corroborated by science....over and over in fact...kinda funny eh?
seraphina22 : What about you, Gremlin..what do you think about Ephraim and Manasseh?
male21_eastanglia : I proficy that in about 2 mins burton is gonna start rolloing a joint
reason_over_faith : what prophecies have come to pass?
reason_over_faith : LOL
reason_over_faith : those?
khaotic_generati0n : Romans made the connection (which they borrowed from their egyptian teachers) with birth quite clear: Juno Lucina was not only a creatress, but also the mother who brought light' to the eyes of the newborn. The biblical God who said 'let there be light' copied the word of the Goddess
male21_eastanglia : lol
male21_eastanglia : :)
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:27:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gremlin_net : seraphina22: I already told you. They don't make me believe. So, according to you, nothing will make me believe. All done.
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : enki: for an idiot that twists things around to fit science - it's hardly amazing
ki_dud666 : no... we're talking about the subconcience
seraphina22 : Tell me about them, though.
brngreenback : seraphina, that was just before joseph got blessed, right?
seraphina22 : Round about that time..yes
gremlin_net : seraphina22: false prophets. Unbelivable.
seraphina22 : But what is the significance of them?
zedechiah_the_messiah : aw shit
seraphina22 : False prophets? Hardly.
chickendra : Do you get high on the Lord?
gremlin_net : seraphina22: very little.
enki_in_the_abzu : diogenes.....for an idiot that wrote a book in 1976 that has just been corroborated in many ways in the last decade is pretty funny tho
seraphina22 : Clearly youdon't know the story.
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : enki: :)) hardly
elvis_high_on_drugs : weed?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:28:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
seraphina22 : Ephraim and Manasseh are modern day US and Great Britain
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Yeah it is theo
goatonfire1 : Well, gosh, I was given to believe this was a hot and happenin' place. It's actually quite dull here, at least at this time of day.
elvis_high_on_drugs : i smoke weed everyday
brngreenback : Seraphina, you're gonna get into great britain and the US, aren't you?
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : laughs.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: clearly? I'd love to watch you in a courtroom. Can you get the death sentence for contempt?
deadman_932 : hahaha
reason_over_faith : No they are not seph!
brngreenback : Yeah. Took me a minute to remember.
reason_over_faith : you silly twat!!
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : enki: i still haven't seen evidence of that planet he claims
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : Render would love this one.
elvis_high_on_drugs : its a herb
brngreenback : Advent of Dionysus.
chickendra : Even caffein is considered a drug
seraphina22 : How do you know, Reason? Are you familiar with the scriptures about them/
seraphina22 : ?
brngreenback : Bunch of crap, though.
deadman_932 : khaotic, try reading on the subjects and go away, idiot
goatonfire1 : Who wrote what book in 1976? What planet are we talking about?
elvis_high_on_drugs : it smell good
enki_in_the_abzu : you havent heard of planet X???? scientists are so sure it exists they say all that is left is naming it...
reason_over_faith : Sera yes. and it is total bs.
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : goat: sitchen and planet x
seraphina22 : Tell me the story.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:29:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
goatonfire1 : No, enki, all that is left is FINDING it.
brngreenback : Seraphina, why not be fair and gimme a chance to post the scripture in the room, so everyone can be on the same page.
male21_eastanglia : LOL
brngreenback : Gimme two seconds.
khaotic_generati0n : NOT TRUE
xorbie : enki: Nope... scientists actually are not at all in agreement that it exist
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : male21: :))
elvis_high_on_drugs : i read sitchin
deadman_932 : khaotic, creationism is not falsifiable and cannot be a viable "theory"
seraphina22 : Time's up
rendermaster : seprhina, ephraim and menasseh weren't prophets
deadman_932 : NOT in science
elvis_high_on_drugs : hi yeti
seraphina22 : No..they weren't. You're right.
seraphina22 : I never said they were.
elvis_high_on_drugs : dont get mad with me today
brngreenback : And, that's the biased-toward-the-theists version.
reason_over_faith : sera, first of all, it is not just britain, it is : canada, nz, australia and GB
goatonfire1 : Was Sitchen a christian writer?
enki_in_the_abzu : goat....they have found evidence of its existence based on perturbations of the outer planets....the same way they found pluto in 1930....which wasnt visually seen until the 50's
elvis_high_on_drugs : i just said hi
deadman_932 : neither are the egyptians, khaotic
deadman_932 : the chinese are
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:30:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
reason_over_faith : 50 states= 50 nations?
elvis_high_on_drugs : i like sitchins books
reason_over_faith : LOL
reptylinin2 : Gremlin, I was not aware of the SuperHuman schtuff in Moronic beliefs.
reptylinin2 : *^m--er.. I'm not sure if I really need it...
chickendra : Your country isn't a commonwealth?
deadman_932 : civilization, khaotic
johntheantibaptist : goat sitchin is not in ny way christian
skyjet21 : hello room
elvis_high_on_drugs : i like a book called the gods of eden
deadman_932 : you idiot
johntheantibaptist : any*
seraphina22 : have you guys ever wondered why the US and Great Britain both incorporate images of the Great Pyramids on their official government seals and currency?
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ brngreenback.... it didn't show up on my screen, whatever you posted
deadman_932 : axum isn't THAT old
brngreenback : Now, let's see what it says about anything that defines the US or britain as nations.
reason_over_faith : holy shit.
khaotic_generati0n : OMG
irrefragabilis : is away View My Webcam
khaotic_generati0n : MORON
deadman_932 : khaotic, SHOW your evidence
khaotic_generati0n : OK
reptylinin2 : seraphina, they're damned neat?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:31:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deadman_932 : cite some papers
brngreenback : Like, say, I don't know, World War two, or the revolutionary war.
seraphina22 : I don't know. It's something to ponder.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: you lost me. How are Joeseph's kids live today in the US and the UK?
brngreenback : hmm... no, nothing here.
khaotic_generati0n : BRB
elvis_high_on_drugs : i was fucking with dudes in the catholic rooms
goatonfire1 : <--- wishes there was a reverse-microwave that would cool things off in seconds.
gremlin_net : alive*
zedechiah_the_messiah : actually if one is talking a structured society, then i believe the australian aborigines are supposed to have the oldest culure
xorbie : The fact that the US uses that image, combined with the fact that yellow + red makes orange goes to prove that if there was a God, the color brown would not exist. However, brown does exist
brngreenback : Guess that means it could be applied to ANY nation.
xorbie : Therefore, GOd does not
seraphina22 : Well, clearly..you don't know the scripture, Gremlin. Or you would understand.
deadman_932 : cite some journals, khaotic
rendermaster : efraim and menasseh hold more imporatnce in islam and in mormonism than in judaism or cianity
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : giggles at goat.
zedechiah_the_messiah : laughs @ Seraphina
brngreenback : seraphina, I posted the scripture in the room. So, that's no longer a valid argument.
brngreenback : http://www.dionysus.org/x1001.html
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:32:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
reason_over_faith : also the US has never been greater than britain. Britain owend 25% of the world at one time.
enki_in_the_abzu : is that you truth?
seraphina22 : HA HA HA Grasshoppa. Wiseass. There's one in every crowd. I simply asked a question. I did not make a connection between anything I said and my beliefs, or the existence of God.
brngreenback : Posted complete with theistic spin.
rendermaster : yes, enki - this is the name I use when I'm in here
rendermaster : :)
enki_in_the_abzu : thought i recognized the font...hehe
seraphina22 : I didn't see the scripture, Brn
gremlin_net : seraphina22: you're talking about the bullshit parable where Joesph's kids 'forgot' that deities exist, and got real estate out of it, right?
hotvegasman : reason only cause we gave it back
brngreenback : http://www.dionysus.org/x1001.html
seraphina22 : It must have disappeared
seraphina22 : oh
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ rendermaster is truthisfalse? :O
brngreenback : one more time?
rendermaster : yes, kitty
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:33:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
seraphina22 : the link, then..not the actual scripture
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Oh.
goatonfire1 : It's like the lot of you are in different conversational universes, and this room is just the place where the things you say get printed out. You appear to be talking in common space, but none of you are really talking to any of the others here.
reason_over_faith : vegas, we gave it back?
zedechiah_the_messiah : Render is not JJJ
enki_in_the_abzu : that added with the intelligent posts gave you away....lol
rendermaster : I use the same font, same color, and both of us are jewish
reason_over_faith : who did ?
zedechiah_the_messiah : JJJ = truthisfalse
reason_over_faith : Hi zed.
brngreenback : the site contains the actual scripture. anyone can click on it, and know the scripture.
enki_in_the_abzu : lol
zedechiah_the_messiah : Reason
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : screams
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : giggles at render.
reason_over_faith : We are discussing the Ephraim and Manasseh bs now
deadman_932 : that's not a journal, khaotic
brngreenback : So, saying "you obviously don't know the scripture" is a falty argument now.
munkman1 : Hello all
deadman_932 : that's not a scholarly citation
brngreenback : *faulty
deadman_932 : that's crap
rendermaster : both "JJJ" and I are "truths" - my othre name is "truthtobefound"
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ rendermaster, your font is nothing like Truth's.....
khaotic_generati0n : MORON
rendermaster : other truth, kitty
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:34:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deadman_932 : axum has it's origins in the first millenium ad, asshole
rendermaster : not jjj
munkman1 : deadman_932 are still in here from last night??
seraphina22 : OH..so..posting the linke guarantees that everyone instanly clicked there..and upon reading the various scriptures pertaining..instanly understood their content?
deadman_932 : it's NOT a journal, is it?
goatonfire1 : For Ephraim and Manassah, substitute Donny and Marie, and see if the same points make sense. :-))
hotvegasman : kitty render has a name close to jjj but its not the same person
rendermaster : lol goat
seraphina22 : If only life were that simple..I wouldn't be here right now.
khaotic_generati0n : YES DEAD
chickendra : Probably at least 60,000 U.S. to start
tony_met2002 : yeticock, you can apply for a job at well digging,it's a job where you start at the top.....:))
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Ahem. My question was, ' rendermaster is truthisfalse?' and you said Yes kitty.
deadman_932 : WRONG
hunter_the_crazychick : Baron: mind if I PM you something?
deadman_932 : you're a liar
brngreenback : seraphina, no, but it's saying that you can't automatically assume intellectual superiority, which is a lousy debate tactic anyway
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ This is not 'let's confuse the kitty'.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: you've stopped making sense. I don't see any reason to think that Joeseph or his kids ever existed at all. If declining to believe that these myths got real estate after forgetting that deities existed is the determining factor in whether I'll ever believe this shit, then, by your estimation, I never will.
brngreenback : Hunter, sure
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:35:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
munkman1 : DEADMAN_932, are still in here from last night?
rendermaster : just to be clear, jjj = truthisfalse and rendermaster = truthtobefound
deadman_932 : axum originates in the first fucking millenium AD
deadman_932 : you idiot
rendermaster : are we all on the same page now? :)
seraphina22 : So tell me what is it that you guys believe...We're all just floating around here by chance..Hopelessly, aimlessly?
seraphina22 : We die..get covered in dirt..and that's it.
deadman_932 : naw, munk, i slept
gremlin_net : seraphina22: I don't believe anything. I've already told you that.
rendermaster : and I had the "truth" name first ;)(
seraphina22 : Tell me again how we got here?
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : Hopelessly and aimlessly are your words.
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, now THAT is "putting words in someones mouth"
brngreenback : I'm sure everyone in here knows that we're talking about a biblical prophecy which is being applied to Great Britain and The US, and that you feel it's valid, and we don't.
rendermaster : we don't know how we got here, seraphina - we just have some hypotheses
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, its also called a "strawman" in a debate room.
munkman1 : Did that Cliffbee_84 ever come up with any evidence??
hotvegasman : yeti knocked up his girlfriend
goatonfire1 : Gremlin, you believe you exist. You believe you're communicating with other people who exist.
deadman_932 : hahaha
seraphina22 : Not when it's followed by a question mark, Zed. You know..punctuation is very important in the English language.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: evidently, by means other than deital creation.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:36:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brngreenback : Or...were, until you changed subjects.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ I'm going to go take a shower.
tony_met2002 : well as in water containing
hunter_the_crazychick : Baron: you get that?
rendermaster : you don't know how we got here either, seraphina
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Later folkies.
reason_over_faith : please do kitty
johntheantibaptist : yeti well diging you start the hole at the top, and work your way down
hotvegasman : bye kitty
brngreenback : Hunter, nope. Hold on, lemme load messenger.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : looks at reason
hunter_the_crazychick : Bah.
gremlin_net : goatonfire1: I accept that I exist, based on the evidence.
irrefragabilis : is away View My Webcam
reason_over_faith : hehe
deadman_932 : you know nothing of the subbject, khaotc stick to martin bernal and the other idiots like you
seraphina22 : So you're admitting then, Reason..that you don't know how we got here?
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, yup. its still a strawman. No one suggested ANY of those things. You did and implied they were the thoughts of others who dont believe what you do
atheist_and_agn0stic : è I believe I exist.
rendermaster : lol
chickendra : Do Barristers still wear wigs?
rendermaster : oy
seraphina22 : What the hell is a strawman?
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : I know how I got here.
reason_over_faith : no you do not agn0!! you are an illogical construct!!
rendermaster : look it up, seraphina
goatonfire1 : Atheist, it's been proven that you're a bot. So you don't exist. :D
chickendra : I think that's cool
rendermaster : your picture will be next to it ;)
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : Mom, dad, wild thing.
enki_in_the_abzu : cool show on william wallace on the history channel right now
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:37:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, i just explained it to you 3 posts back.
seraphina22 : Yeah..I'm sure.
atheist_and_agn0stic : è reason_over_faith "bollocks!" lol
khaotic_generati0n : John G. Jackson Virtual Museum
gremlin_net : seraphina22: a strawman is an invented opponent designed to be vanquished easily.
reason_over_faith : lol nop agn0.
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, now THAT is "putting words in someones mouth"
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, its also called a "strawman" in a debate room.
reason_over_faith : Shall we battle again?
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, yup. its still a strawman. No one suggested ANY of those things. You did and implied they were the thoughts of others who dont believe what you do
goatonfire1 : They just voted, in the last week or so, to stop wearing the wigs. At least, I think I read that.
christianzombievampire : is away (Away)
seraphina22 : Ok..just out of curiousity..what were all of your parents beliefs?
atheist_and_agn0stic : è reason_over_faith - am I the only agnostic-atheist you've met? That can't be so.
chickendra : I think the wigs are cool.
enki_in_the_abzu : thats cool....those wigs were gay
deadman_932 : oh, by the way, your Link didn't work, khaotic
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : My parents were catholic.
reason_over_faith : agn0, not at all. but again, it is still illogical
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:38:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deadman_932 : your little fake museum must have closed
gremlin_net : seraphina22: my parents were atheistic. I don't know whether they had any beliefs.
goatonfire1 : The wigs were just so damned ... photogenic and quaint, though.
brngreenback : Seraph, a strawman is a dummy argument you create, in order to tear down for image's sake
chickendra : Traditional
seraphina22 : Oh..must be atheist lingo.
hotvegasman : zsa zsa was a worshiper of corn
gremlin_net : A strawman is applied LARPing.
rendermaster : a majority of atheists, seraphina, are former xians
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : was and am.
brngreenback : seraph, and is just as much a logical fallacy as claiming intellectual superiority without respect to any arguments
reason_over_faith : vegas, more like corn holing
hotvegasman : ally
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : Don't be jealous, reason.
atheist_and_agn0stic : è reason_over_faith, I know you don't like my explanations, so here's someone elses short explanation: http://www.positiveatheist.com/Writings/agnosticatheist.shtml
reason_over_faith : *holeing.
seraphina22 : Yeah i know, Reason..I used to be one.
hotvegasman : alley even
gremlin_net : seraphina22: after a fashion it is. It's actually a debate term.
suicyde_alley : Vegas
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, being that predominately westerners frequent this room, and the largest religion in the west is christianity, dont you think the majority of people will have had a christian up bringing (there are non-religious and/or people of different religious backgrounds, but thats the expection and not the rule)
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:39:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
seraphina22 : i was a Christian..then an atheist..
zedechiah_the_messiah : so, dont you think it would be he obvious?
irrefragabilis : is away View My Webcam
seraphina22 : Then a Christian..then an atheist
rendermaster : I've never been a xian or an atheist
goatonfire1 : Hmm. I've never met a Muslim atheist. I guess they kill them before they get loose.
seraphina22 : Then a Christian..then an agnostic
seraphina22 : Then an atheist
khaotic_generati0n : GO THERE
seraphina22 : And now...well
deadman_932 : try citing journals or papers that are peer reviewed, khaotic, otherwise you're just talking trash, boy
rendermaster : but if I had to choose between the two, I'd choose atheism
gremlin_net : seraphina22: so you were atheistic, then christian, then atheistic again, and now you're something anonymous.
seraphina22 : All I know is that..I'm not an atheist.
hotvegasman : sepraphine damn make up your mind
johntheantibaptist : seraphina it sounds to me like you have a hard time making up your mind
zedechiah_the_messiah : and now, well youre a Holy Spirit, Tongue Talkin Christian. But not a fundamentalist
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : knows she is an atheist.
brngreenback : Example: Let's assume we were discussing whether or not beer should be sold in wal-mart. A strawman argument would be "So, since you obviously think kids should buy beer, you shouldn't even have a say".
brngreenback : Seraphina, does that clear up the "atheist lingo" a bit?
deadman_932 : HAHAHA
rendermaster : ethiopia is the origin of civilization?
rendermaster : well, that's a new one
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:40:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
rendermaster : lol
hotvegasman : munk yeticock is funnier
seraphina22 : Well not really..but thanks for the effort.
deadman_932 : The National Black United Front is proud to sponsor this virtual museum of this icon of African Centered Studies and Egyptology. It is our desire herein to both honor and recognize his contributions to the world by presenting to the public this virtual museum of his life and his life's work.
goatonfire1 : People who claim to have been atheists who later become christians were not really atheists to begin with. They were just rebellious kids, SAYING they were atheists.
gremlin_net : brngreenback: that's almost more of an ad hominem.
deadman_932 : 19 fucking 39???
seraphina22 : So in other words..it's like saying.."I don't have absolute hard physical evidence for it..and it doesn't make sense..so it can't possibly be true."
rendermaster : it's amazing the ridiculous claims that so many make for absolutely no apparent reason whatsoever
deadman_932 : hahahaha
jfirebird1 : yeah see what the holy spirit does to them they dont even know what in the hell they were before being christian:)):))
deadman_932 : render: he's an africanist
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, no that would be either an argument from incredulity or an argument from ignorance
atheist_and_agn0stic : è I've never been a Christian, got kicked out of RE class at 11 for saying the Bible could be just all made up....lol
munkman1 : Everyone is atheist by default when you are born.
seraphina22 : Well, Firebird...some of us were born into Christian backgrounds.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:41:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
skyjet21 : hello
rendermaster : what difference does it make if humanity's origin was in the sudan instead of ethipia? or in iran? iraq?
gremlin_net : brngreenback: a strawman would be more like 'wanting beer in WalMart is the desire to have cocaine in WalMart, too'
rendermaster : who cares?
deadman_932 : he thinks that africa is the origin of the oldest civilizations, etc.
rendermaster : what possible difference does that make?
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : It could possible by true. It could also possibly be true that invisible flying elephants exist.
jfirebird1 : i feel sorry for u
deadman_932 : he's been reading too much martin bernal
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : In other words, why fucking bother?
seraphina22 : Ok..that explains it. You should have just said so.
rendermaster : khatoic, one doesn't have to prove something wrong
gremlin_net : seraphina22: that's a strawman; yeah.
seraphina22 : So that could apply to you guys too.
deadman_932 : you are wrong, and reading ANY text in archaeology proves that
rendermaster : you have to show it to be true
mythterjesus : Wage and economy go hand in hand, We don't lack for anything
goatonfire1 : A better strawman might be something like, "20,000 underaged kids were killed last year from drinking and driving. Since nobody wants kids to be killed, WalMart should not sell beer." Hmm. That's still not quite right.
deadman_932 : axum dates from the first millenium AD
jfirebird1 : yeah i guess it does
rendermaster : lol
i_iggied_jesus : is away (Away)
deadman_932 : egypt is older, not ETHIOPIA
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:42:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hotvegasman : i thought canuck was the sound they make when you shoot a canadian
deadman_932 : you fucking MORON
reason_over_faith : nope agn0. its analogy of LOUD PURPLE car is irrelevant. loud and purple can be applied as adjectives and nouns. The thing with agnostic and atheism is a statement of belief that applies to a god. It fails because again, a so called agnostic athiest is someone who states: I donot beleive in a god or gods, because I see no proof to belive as sush. BUT, I will not deny they exist." Illogical
reason_over_faith : That sucked agn0.
tony_met2002 : well then create your own country, call it the Providence of Yeticock.....:))
gremlin_net : seraphina22: defrauding the opponent by claiming that his understanding that deities are mythical equates to the ardent position that deities can't possibly exist is a strawman.
deadman_932 : bye, khaotic, you're just a fool
zedechiah_the_messiah : "Evolution is just too incredible to be true!" = arg. from incredulity
rendermaster : poos on zed three times to make up for the last two times I saw zed and didn't dump on him
mythterjesus : Yeti, you're right
seraphina22 : Actually..I know that's not what evolutionists say. What they say is that..we have common ancestors as monkeys..which is in essence..a rodent like creature. I like the monkey theory better.
shir_zakhmy : is there any bahaei?
shir_zakhmy : is there any bahaei?
shir_zakhmy : is there any bahaei?
shir_zakhmy : is there any bahaei?
rendermaster : serphina, what is an "evolutionist"?
shir_zakhmy : is there any bahaei?
deadman_932 : *** khaotic_generati0n will be ignored. you're a joke, BOY
shir_zakhmy : is there any bahaei?
shir_zakhmy : is there any bahaei?
atheist_and_agn0stic : è reason_over_faith - y'see, that just isn't illogical to me.
chickendra : Pot should be legalized in the US, but the US court system makes to much money from fines, etc.
mythterjesus : Canada is not a violent country either. MAJOR big plus.
theophrenie : is away (Away)
gremlin_net : shir_zakhmy: stop that.
shir_zakhmy : is there any bahaei?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:43:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deadman_932 : alley:x
shir_zakhmy : is there any bahaei?
shir_zakhmy : is there any bahaei?
shir_zakhmy : is there any bahaei?
shir_zakhmy : is there any bahaei?
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : To obtain an authorization to study in Canada, you must: present an acceptance letter from the educational institution you wish to attend; provide evidence of enough money to pay for tuition and living costs; satisfy a visa officer that you will return home at the end of your studies; you may also be required to undergo an immigration medical examination or to obtain a a visa to visit or transit Canada. A student authorization can be processed in a matter of days or it can take up to six months, depending on how quickly you can provide the necessary supporting documents.
suicyde_alley : Joseph:X
seraphina22 : Well..I'm going out on a limb here, Reason..but I'm going to take a stab and say..one who believes in the theory of evolution?
johntheantibaptist : deadman it took you long enough to iggy that moron
deadman_932 : *** shire_zakhmi will be ignored.
rendermaster : no one has ot believe in evolution - it's a fact
rendermaster : no belief is required
deadman_932 : yeah, i'm too patient, john
seraphina22 : Oh, is it?
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, yup
reason_over_faith : Agn0, look at what she said: am an agnostic atheist. I do not believe in god(s), although I can offer no concrete knowledge to support my belief. there her total argument fails.
johntheantibaptist : deadman i see that
reason_over_faith : Know why?
rendermaster : yes, seraphina - what theory can you offer that is better supported than evolution?
gremlin_net : seraphina22: A) there's no such thing as an 'evolutionist'; B) no one in evolutionary biology claims that homosapiens evolved from monkeys. That's another strawman.
suicyde_alley : Hi Render:)
rendermaster : hiya, alley :)
seraphina22 : Oh I see. Funny that it took one man in the 1800's to come up with what is so clearly fact.
mythterjesus : It works so far
munkman1 : One could be an agnostic-atheist, because they would be saying that they have no belief in a god but they are not completly sure that they are right. In other words they think that there isnt a god but arent willing to go all the way and say FOR SURE that there isnt a god.
gremlin_net : shir_zakhmy: you were warned. Here's your shirt: http://troll.grem.tv
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:44:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
zedechiah_the_messiah : "I didnt know that there are allele changes in populations over time were a fact" = argument from ignorance
mythterjesus : I didn't think it would but it does. I don't smoke while I'm in a restaurant eating anyway
rendermaster : khaotic, a scientific theory REQUIRES that there is tested and corroborated evidence to support it
deadman_932 : seraphina, evolutionary theories date from before christ
hotvegasman : oh god not joe smith
rendermaster : you should actually learn the terminology
atheist_and_agn0stic : è reason_over_faith - I'm enjoying this, so I'll keep trying: how about this: "reason_over_faith, you may be having dirty thoughts about me, I'm in no position to know if you are or not, however I decline to believe you are having dirty thoughts about me".
i_iggied_jesus : is back
i_iggied_jesus : .
rendermaster : an "uproven" idea is a HYPOTHESIS
mythterjesus : Bars? I don't think it WILL work but restaurants do work with no smoking
gremlin_net : seraphina22: now you're just being bombastic and obtuse.
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, right. And there havent been 200 years to put that hypothesis to the test?
reason_over_faith : agn0 it fails because she admits she bass her belief on the illogical stance of : I just beleive this way because I cannot offer data or an argument to support it.
seraphina22 : Well anyway...to believe in evolution does not necessarily mean to deny the existence of a higher power.
reason_over_faith : Like a fundie.
rendermaster : khaotic, areyou mentally retarded?
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, dont tell me. Evolution is JUST a theory...?
reason_over_faith : " I just beleive this way!"
rendermaster : no one said it did, seraphina
the_chainsawpsycho : "If a person is of the opinion that we cannot ever have true knowledge as to the existence of god, not proof for or against, then that person can accurately be described as agnostic, using Huxley's original definition."
atheist_and_agn0stic : è [shakes head]
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:45:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
reason_over_faith : shakes head.
rendermaster : one can accept both evolution and a god or creatlr
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, thats a strawman again
seraphina22 : I didn't say anyone said it did
zedechiah_the_messiah : then why did you suggest it?
the_chainsawpsycho : How the hell would we know whether a god was beyond human comprehension?
gremlin_net : seraphina22: evolultion has been proved to occur. Belief is unnecessary; youcan just accept it.
zedechiah_the_messiah : no one claimed otherwise
mythterjesus : <,decides to take off her Mythterjesus costume. BRB
irrefragabilis : is away View My Webcam
rendermaster : in fact, a majority of theists accept evolution, including a rather large percentage of xians
seraphina22 : I'm merely making a statment. You guys are too quick to get on the defensive.
seraphina22 : Which is usually a pretty good indication of insecurity
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph no. youre too quick to use fallacious arguments
rendermaster : do you need that expalained to you?
mark666888666 : hello friends ;)
rendermaster : lol
gremlin_net : seraphina22: you're slipping strawmen into your statements. You're trolling.
johntheantibaptist : render to include pope john paul II
rendermaster : yes, john
seraphina22 : Well give debate where debate is due.
rendermaster : seraphina, it's always due
deadman_932 : using fallacious arguments is a sign of desperation, seraph
rendermaster : hence the title of the chat room
seraphina22 : Never say never or always
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : seraphina: you are making false statements - pointing them out to you isn't defensive
rendermaster : it's not rocket science
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:46:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
reason_over_faith : no agn0. You can IMAGINE i have these thoughts. And maybe HOPE you do, like a fundie. But do you ahve data, proof previous experience, etc to even warrant such a claim>?
reason_over_faith : No.
reason_over_faith : you do not.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: and debates always rely on evidence. And you've already conceded that you have none.
reason_over_faith : so it is fallicious
seraphina22 : The fact that believing in evolution doesn't always mean you deny the existence of a higher power is by no means..a false statement.
rendermaster : khaotic, I don't care what you believe
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, no one suggested that evolution had ANYthing to do with deities, or didnt. So for you to bring it up only indicates an accusation on your part. accusing others of thinking/saying otherwise
khaotic_generati0n : HAHA
reason_over_faith : she killed her argument in that one last claim agn0
khaotic_generati0n : YOU KNOW
reason_over_faith : But I still like you.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: it's a strawman, though. Evolutionary biology isn't a belief system.
hotvegasman : lmfao
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:47:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hotvegasman : beach
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, your comprehension is low. No one said it was a false statement. What WAS said is that it was a strawman argument. no one suggested OTHERWISE
seraphina22 : If you guys could stop trying to outsmart me or trip me up..or find some contradiction in what I'm saying..and just fucking listen for a change..we might get somewhere.
rendermaster : khaotic, you can't even find your CAPS LOCK KEY and you have the gall to define something as profound as evolution?
rendermaster : lol
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, youre paranoid
rendermaster : seraphina, you are a dunce
seraphina22 : I'm extremely paranoid.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: strawman. We're not trying to outsmart you; we're succeeding.
rendermaster : this is a debate chat
deadman_932 : oh, if only you'd all listen to seraphina, you'd get somewhere
seraphina22 : It runs in my family.
rendermaster : so deal with it and stop whining or find another chat room
brngreenback : seraph, you're absolutely correct. If we'd just shut up and agree with you, and assume you were correct, we wouldn't have a fair debate.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:48:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, if you fear debate then leave the room. This is a DEBATE room. its silly to go into a debate room and then complain because people are taking issue with your claims
goatonfire1 : seraphina is not on my list. I can't see her.
seraphina22 : Ok..Deadman..if I may borrow from the atheists...Strawman.
sketta04 : same here
brngreenback : seraphina, it's an international forensics league term, by the way.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: actually, deadman_932's sarcasm wasn't a strawman.
rendermaster : seraphina, I'm not an atheist and I use the term "strawman" all the time
atheist_and_agn0stic : è reason_over_faith - If you have some means by which to confirm beyond doubt that a god cannot exist, then you can rightly say "god does not exist". However, I suspect that you do not possess such means. If this is so, you are, ultimately, acknowledging that you are agnostic about god, i.e. that you have no means to *absolutely* exclude the possibility of god.
deadman_932 : actually, that was ridicule, seraphina
reason_over_faith : agn0, I put no claim of authenticity to a self calimed athiest who says " I lack belief in a god ro gods because I just do" Tha is faith.
brngreenback : All sorts of non-atheist types use it.
rendermaster : some of us, serphina, have actually spent time in a college or university
seraphina22 : I completely expect you to disagree with me..what I don't want expect is for you to put words into my mouth or falsely accuse me of thinking things that I don't think.
reason_over_faith : Not a true disection of the possbile proof it could or could not exist.
khaotic_generati0n : HAHA
seraphina22 : Lol...Yeah. How 'bout that.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:49:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
rendermaster : seraphina, that was whining
rendermaster : shut up
rendermaster : or get out
rendermaster : :)
chickendra : We share DNA with chimps
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : :))
seraphina22 : Render..you don't think I'm educated?
gremlin_net : seraphina22: right. Because that would be strawmanning, which we don't allow.
rendermaster : no, seraphina
rendermaster : it doesn't seem so
suicyde_alley : Sandy:X
zedechiah_the_messiah : er, Seraphina, reasoned thinking isnt exclusive to atheists. the entire world uses it. it crosses religious, gender, political, geographical and natural bounderies
irrefragabilis : is away View My Webcam
rendermaster : you don't know what a debate chat entails nor what a strawman is
seraphina22 : See..you guys are totally missing my point.
goatonfire1 : There is a simple way to reach the conclusion that "God does not exist." But it's not something that fits into a little syllogism.
khaotic_generati0n : HAHA
rendermaster : seraphina, we aren't missing anything
suicyde_alley : Jfire:X
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : seraphina: you have no point!
rendermaster : you are just whining
seraphina22 : You have so many pre-formed misconceptions about what non-atheists think..that you're assuming I do too.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:50:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gremlin_net : seraphina22: I've known your point for hours. You have no evidence of deities; you pretend they exist anyway.
seraphina22 : What you're failing to consider is..that I used to play on your team.
irrefragabilis : alley
irrefragabilis : render
chickendra : We were created in Gods image
irrefragabilis : jfire
suicyde_alley : Dust
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph thats another strawman
goatonfire1 : It's the same way you come to KNOW that there's no such thing/person as the fictional Santa Claus.
reason_over_faith : No I am not agn0. Again, I can state there is no credible proof a god exists. Nor is it a logical concept. Nor does appealing to the possibillity of the supernatural a reasonable claim. Jsut because you can conceive of it, does not make it real agn0.
irrefragabilis : reason
rendermaster : that's the THIRD time I've said that
the_chainsawpsycho : Look what the cat dragged in....
chickendra : and we share DNA with chimps. I find that comical
seraphina22 : I have successfully planted doubt in the the minds of many a born again Christian.
enki_in_the_abzu : seraphina still getting bashed huh? lol
rendermaster : it seems you don't read too well either, seraphina
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : She used to be just like you.
goatonfire1 : I call it The Ten Thousand Clues.
seraphina22 : Some Mormons too. (That's always fun.)
munkman1 : <~~~~left the room and came back in and STILL doesnt see "seraphina".
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : How many times have we heard that one.
brngreenback : seraphina, it's true that we've heard a lot of arguments, and tend to respond to similar arguments in ways that have worked in the past. But, it doesn't mean we're not listening to you, or have any idea who you are at all.
seraphina22 : I used to lecture on the topic.
rendermaster : seraphina, the only thing you have "implanted" in this chat room is your foot in your mouth
brngreenback : We just know what you say in chat.
reason_over_faith : I can think of Binky the magical goat conrls the universe, other than making that claim of belief, do I have a valid leg to stand on?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:51:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
reason_over_faith : *controls
atheist_and_agn0stic : è reason_over_faith - [sheesh] Are you saying that there is no possibility of things existing that you could never comprehend?
the_chainsawpsycho : hehehehehehehe
gremlin_net : seraphina22: getting christians to doubt is pretty easy. Just have them read the bible.
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : munkman: if you are using y!tunnel, check the 'super iggy bin' -- there's a bug which throws people in it randomly
seraphina22 : Render..why don't you just put me on ignore?
hunter_the_crazychick : is away (Away)
rendermaster : khaotic, I'd like for you to visit my teacher and mentor, Rabbi Ignorowitz - he has the patience for fools that I do not
seraphina22 : It would make both of our lives easier at this point, I think
gremlin_net : seraphina22: but getting atheists to believe, when you have no evidence of deities, is going to be tricky.
reason_over_faith : agn0, that is not what I said. I said just because I can conceive og binky, does not make him real. that was a strawman agn0
khaotic_generati0n : HAHA
rendermaster : because, seraphina, I'm enjoying watching you make a fool of yourself
seraphina22 : I'm not trying to get you to believe anything. I could give a rat's ass if you believe.
munkman1 : I dont know where the "super iggy" button is
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : :)) @ rabbi ignorowitz
gremlin_net : seraphina22: good. Then you can accept that I don't.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:52:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
seraphina22 : Well I'm glad I can add some pleasure to your day, Render...
hotvegasman : munk ytunnelpro then preferances
goatonfire1 : Seraphina, if you can see me, would you leave the room and then come back? You're invisible to me.
reason_over_faith : why must it be a god agn0/ What if man thought up or conceived binky.
seraphina22 : Yes..I totally accept it..not only do I accept it..I understand it.
rendermaster : keep going, seraphina - I wager you are going to give me even more to giggle about
seraphina22 : One can only hope, Render.
reason_over_faith : then there would be binkists.
atheist_and_agn0stic : è reason_over_faith - Binky the magical goat could, possibly, exist - I don't believe he does any more than you do, but the point of agnosticism is, you have no means by which to exclude Binky with certainty.
gremlin_net : Render: she might make Idiot of the Month, at this rate....
goatonfire1 : Atheist, you DO have the means to exclude Binky.
khaotic_generati0n : HAHA
suicyde_alley : Binkyists
irrefragabilis : We can concieve of all sorts of things that don't exist
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:53:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
seraphina22 : Oh now that hurts, Gremlin.
seraphina22 : I mean really..Brutal.
atheist_and_agn0stic : è Binky might just be reeal good at hiding.
reason_over_faith : agn0, of course I can,. I conceived of it jsut now. What if someone else thinks of....Mark the magical Ferret? Or tommy the god turtle?
hotvegasman : jfire 7 minutes
reason_over_faith : See how it goes.
seraphina22 : I think I might have to crawl off in a corner somewhere in cry now.
reason_over_faith : LOL
khaotic_generati0n : HAHA
reason_over_faith : he is.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: don't beat yourself up about it; it's just a contest.
reason_over_faith : But serisouly.
goatonfire1 : And the first step is, you ask the person making the claim to DEFINE or DESCRIBE Binky, and explain the route by which he arrived at his definitive statement of the existence of Binky.
rendermaster : so, seraphina, what is your point of being in this chat room? I see it's okay for you to make any derogatory comment you wish about atheists and atheism, but you get suddenly defensive and whiny when someone returns the favor
irrefragabilis : grem :))
atheist_and_agn0stic : è reason_over_faith - ok, then your idea of 'certainty' is different to mine.
seraphina22 : When did I make a derogatory comment?
reason_over_faith : you would NOT even consdier ag od or gods might exist unless you still appeal to the supernatural in some form.
seraphina22 : Show me
rendermaster : rofl
reason_over_faith : Period.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: over the last couple of hours.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:54:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
seraphina22 : You guys are pathetic
reason_over_faith : agnostics are theist lite.
the_chainsawpsycho : Leonheart has the Idiot of the Month contest won already.
atheist_and_agn0stic : è goatonfire1 - if Binky is hiding then one couldn't describe him.
irrefragabilis : lol
goatonfire1 : This idea of Binky had to come from somewhere. If that somewhere has no rational basis at all, you can safely exclude the existence of Binky as a possibility.
rendermaster : right - everyone but you is wrong, seraphina
seraphina22 : Sarcastic..Fucking Smart Ass..Full or yourselves.
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraphina, when you said "I pity you all"
reason_over_faith : goat, exactly.
seraphina22 : *Full of
gremlin_net : seraphina22: close. I'm apathetic. It's got a lot of the same letters, but it's actually the exact opposite.
zedechiah_the_messiah : you dont remember that>?
brngreenback : "When did I make a derogatory comment" "You guys are pathetic"....
deadman_932 : yes, seraphina, yet people here manage to make points and back their contentions, which i have yet to see you do
khaotic_generati0n : NOT APE
seraphina22 : I pity the whole world
brngreenback : Seraphina, you're shooting yourself in the foot, babe
seraphina22 : I pity m yself
zedechiah_the_messiah : and that other chatter, Lissianthus, put you on ignore for it?
khaotic_generati0n : HAHA
deadman_932 : oi
goatonfire1 : Atheist, to talk about him at all is to make a claim about his existence. The first person who broaches the subject HAS TO proffer some kind of evidence. Really.
irrefragabilis : Goat : I know the rationa basis for a Pegasus. We see horses, we see birds fly. Does that mean unicorns exist?
munkman1 : <~~~doesnt think he is using Yahootunnel
seraphina22 : I no longer care, Brn
irrefragabilis : Hume..was it?
reason_over_faith : well agn0, keep going dude!! fight the good fight.
rendermaster : no, seraphina, you are simply a rather pathetic troll who doesn't have the requisite educational background to sound even mildly informed about any of he subjects you've been speaking about
brngreenback : Alrighty, just sayin'
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:55:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
reason_over_faith : I have to go get my brat.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: pitying yourself is a good idea. I wasn't going to pity you.
seraphina22 : I'm just outnumbered here..that's all. YOu guys go with me into a Believer's room and we'd nail you.
brngreenback : ooh
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : laughs and laughs.
zedechiah_the_messiah : and you called the room "fools" earlier too, Serphina. remember that one?
brngreenback : kidding
deadman_932 : seraphina, sure you would
irrefragabilis : laughs at khaotic
rendermaster : that's the FIFTH TIME I've said that
gremlin_net : seraphina22: is the evidence of deities waiting in a theistic room?
khaotic_generati0n : HAHA
irrefragabilis : sandy :)
munkman1 : This sucks.........why cant I see this damn person
rendermaster : do you need it in braille?
goatonfire1 : Nobody has time to search the Universe for the proof of every wild claim. So ... there's a bit of a burden on the person making the initial claim. They have to have something, or their claim is AUTOMATICALLY, safely, false.
reason_over_faith : later agn0
seraphina22 : Good for you, Render..Bravo..Fucking FANTASTIC. Guess what? I don't care what you are.
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : dusty :)
reason_over_faith : later all
atheist_and_agn0stic : è reason_over_faith - later
deadman_932 : munk ...SHE has to leave and return
johntheantibaptist : irrefrag actually a carnival had a goat that was bred with only one horn, and a unicorn is basicly just an animal with only one horn
rendermaster : sure you do, seraphina, since you just made that statement
rendermaster : what an idiot
rendermaster : lol
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, that would be fallacious. its not the number that agree or disagree. its the strength of the argument
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:56:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
seraphina22 : There's strength in numbers..you know that
deadman_932 : fucking yahoo is just wierd
irrefragabilis : John, I said Pegasus
rendermaster : seraphina, what exactly is the "strength†here?
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, no. theres not. not when youre dealing with logic
goatonfire1 : Irrefrag, unicorns and flying horses are not the same thing, first of all. It's wrong to conflate them in the same argument. :-))
irrefragabilis : Not Unicorn
deadman_932 : seraphina, you couldn't debate ANYONE here
irrefragabilis : But whatevere
rendermaster : I agree with the atheists in here in regards to your being an idiot
irrefragabilis : Don't even read what I'm typing
seraphina22 : Fuck logic
deadman_932 : not ONE single person
irrefragabilis : Go on
gremlin_net : seraphina22: why don't you just go grab the evidence of deities from this theistic room you're talking about and bring it back here. It'll save us a wasted trip.
rendermaster : so I guess you can’t use that excuse any longer
khaotic_generati0n : :))
zedechiah_the_messiah : laughs @ Seraph
seraphina22 : I avoid it whenever I can
the_chainsawpsycho : hehehehehehe
rendermaster : “well, the bad atheists are all against meâ€
rendermaster : lol
irrefragabilis : Goat, I'm starting another one. It's same idea, different example
the_chainsawpsycho : Zed: The li'l baby Jesus told me that logic was a lie, too.
irrefragabilis : Do you have a serious issue with that? That would seem petty
rendermaster : lol chainjsaw
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:57:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
enki_in_the_abzu : oh she avoids logic.....that explains it all right there.....lol
fantasy_healing : hello my lovely friends
goatonfire1 : Scroll back up, irrefrag. You DID say unicorns.
seraphina22 : Logic is highly overrated
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, youre using logic right now. the logic of syntax
rendermaster : lolol
the_chainsawpsycho : Logic = of man = of Satan
irrefragabilis : No I said Pegasus.
irrefragabilis : Look
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, you cant avoid it
brngreenback : seraph, if you're feeling overwhelmed, you can always wait for another argument to take place, and provide your two cents then. That way, you feel like you have "numbers".
seraphina22 : You know..sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
atheist_and_agn0stic : è goatonfire1 - I think you miss the point of agnosticism, it isn't saying Binky exists, it is saying that, Binky might just exist in a way that is beyond our means to comprehend. Remember the fallacy of the 'truth by ignorance' argument, just because I cannot perceive X does not logically necessitate that X does not exist.
irrefragabilis : irrefragabilis: Goat : I know the rationa basis for a Pegasus. We see horses, we see birds fly. Does that mean unicorns exist?
goatonfire1 : Irrefrag, scroll up. You said unicorns.
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, yuip. thats logical, isnt it
irrefragabilis : But again
gremlin_net : seraphina22: you know what. You're right. It's a conspiracy. Everyone's against you. You're outnumbered. You're fucked. There's nothing you can do. You can run, but you can't hide. No matter where you go or what you try, we'll be there to make you fail. Good guess.
irrefragabilis : irrefragabilis: Goat : I know the rationa basis for a Pegasus. We see horses, we see birds fly. Does that mean unicorns exist?
rendermaster : thanks God for creating some idiots who exist to give us a nice guffaw now and again :)
irrefragabilis : Don't read it the 3rd time either
brngreenback : seraph, 'course, I don't really care what the numbers are myself. I just say what I have to say.
irrefragabilis : OK?
deadman_932 : what does freudian psych have to do with logic, seraphina?
johntheantibaptist : irrefrag no at the end you said does that mean unicorns exist
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : The cigar companies might disagree.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: also, here's your shirt: http://tard.grem.tv
irrefragabilis : Just keep insisting I said unicorns
gremlin_net : Imbecile.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:58:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
enki_in_the_abzu : lol truth
the_chainsawpsycho : hehehehehehe
goatonfire1 : Irrefrag, read your own words. You said unicorns.
irrefragabilis : irrefragabilis: Goat : I know the rationa basis for a Pegasus. We see horses, we see birds fly. Does that mean unicorns exist?
chickendra : Bye all. I'm am going to lie down and rest a bit and ponder the idea that there is no god. None what so ever.
khaotic_generati0n : UNIPORN
irrefragabilis : Those WERE my words
irrefragabilis : irrefragabilis: Goat : I know the rationa basis for a Pegasus. We see horses, we see birds fly. Does that mean unicorns exist?
zedechiah_the_messiah : does realize that Chain is a slave to Mans Logic
irrefragabilis : irrefragabilis: Goat : I know the rationa basis for a Pegasus. We see horses, we see birds fly. Does that mean unicorns exist?
irrefragabilis : irrefragabilis: Goat : I know the rationa basis for a Pegasus. We see horses, we see birds fly. Does that mean unicorns exist?
irrefragabilis : irrefragabilis: Goat : I know the rationa basis for a Pegasus. We see horses, we see birds fly. Does that mean unicorns exist?
irrefragabilis : irrefragabilis: Goat : I know the rationa basis for a Pegasus. We see horses, we see birds fly. Does that mean unicorns exist?
the_chainsawpsycho : zsa_zsa: Sometimes a cigar is a presidential sex toy ;)
rendermaster : dusty, khaotic has a unicorn’s horn up his backside, hence the fascination with the subject
deadman_932 : ta, chick
irrefragabilis : Did you get it that time?
hotvegasman : bye chicke
zedechiah_the_messiah : that is ALSO logical
chickendra : Bye all. Enjoy your day.
seraphina22 : So anyway
goatonfire1 : Yes, you said unicorns. "Does that mean unicorns exist?"
deadman_932 : haha, chain
atheist_and_agn0stic : è bye chick
irrefragabilis : irrefragabilis: Goat : I know the rationa basis for a Pegasus. We see horses, we see birds fly. Does that mean unicorns exist?
rendermaster : bye, chick
irrefragabilis : THESE WERE MY EXACT WORD
seraphina22 : Why don't we all discuss who we are and where we come from?
johntheantibaptist : irreg look at your last question you asked does that mean unicorns exist
irrefragabilis : I AM CUTTING AND PASTING
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 10:59:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
enki_in_the_abzu : seraphina.....when your IQ hits 50, as your broker i recommend you sell.....
irrefragabilis : irrefragabilis: Goat : I know the rationa basis for a Pegasus. We see horses, we see birds fly. Does that mean unicorns exist?
irrefragabilis : READ IT OR SHUT UP
deadman_932 : seraphina, what do you know of the subject, really?
gremlin_net : seraphina22: because it's immaterial.
goatonfire1 : Yes, yes. Unicorns. You're not reading what you wrote. You're just pasting it over and over.
khaotic_generati0n : RIGHT
rendermaster : because if we wished to discuss that, seraphina, we’d be in a lobby or a teen chat
atheist_and_agn0stic : è goatonfire1 - I think you miss the point of agnosticism, it isn't saying Binky exists, it is saying that, Binky might just exist in a way that is beyond our means to comprehend. Remember the fallacy of the 'truth by ignorance' argument, just because I cannot perceive X does not logically necessitate that X does not exist.
irrefragabilis : phone
brngreenback : Lmfao
the_chainsawpsycho : Dust has spamitis today.
irrefragabilis : irrefragabilis: Goat : I know the rationa basis for a Pegasus. We see horses, we see birds fly. Does that mean unicorns exist?
suicyde_alley : lol Render
irrefragabilis : PEGASUS
goatonfire1 : Can anyone tell me if irrefrag is sane?
irrefragabilis : IT SAUS PEGASUS
irrefragabilis : irrefragabilis: Goat : I know the rationa basis for a Pegasus. We see horses, we see birds fly. Does that mean unicorns exist?
irrefragabilis : PEGASUS
seraphina22 : Well, sometimes it helps in understanding people's ways of thinking if you know a little bit about them..don't you think, Render?
gremlin_net : goatonfire1: let's just say she's not insane in the way you're thinking....
rendermaster : no, dusty isn’t insane, just really starved for some good hoochie-kootchie ;)
goatonfire1 : In the third sentence, it says UNI-FUCKING-CORNS. Read it.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:00:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
seraphina22 : I mean..you should know that..seeing as you're so highly educated, and all.
seraphina22 : Right?
deadman_932 : ahem..seraphina, what do you know of human evolution?
irrefragabilis : irrefragabilis: Goat : I know the rationa basis for a Pegasus. We see horses, we see birds fly. Does that mean unicorns exist?
enki_in_the_abzu : goat....i dont know if hes sane.....but i know where he lives....in iggy hell
irrefragabilis : DOES ANYONE SEE UNICORN IN THAT SENTENCE?
johntheantibaptist : we do
goatonfire1 : Here's what you said, irrefrag:
rendermaster : no, not really, seraphina; online it’s not really relevant, since there is no way to really confirm or deny anything personal someone may say
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, no one tauted their education here
the_chainsawpsycho : laughs
seraphina22 : Render did
suicyde_alley : How Khaotic?
irrefragabilis : OH
zedechiah_the_messiah : he did?
goatonfire1 : Statement One: "I know the rationa basis for a Pegasus." That is a direct quote, spelling and all.
irrefragabilis : oh you're right
irrefragabilis : My bad
irrefragabilis : sorry
johntheantibaptist : lmao
seraphina22 : She/He/It said something to the effect of.."Some of us have actually spent time in a college or university.."
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : I don't think render tauted his education. He tauted your lack of education.
brngreenback : seraph, I'm still /recieving/ my education
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:01:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
rendermaster : no, seraphina, I just said YOU don’t sound like anyone whose seen the inside of a college or university
suicyde_alley : ahh..I see.
goatonfire1 : Statement Two: "We see horses, we see birds fly."
rendermaster : and I stand by that
enki_in_the_abzu : lol
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, ok. in relation to what?
deadman_932 : tout
theophrenie : is back
theophrenie : « is seraphina still trying to convince us her invisible friend is real?
seraphina22 : Some of the most educated people in this world are firm believers.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: education is immaterial. A complete idiot could discover testable evidence of deities. They just never do.
goatonfire1 : Statement Three: "Does this means unicorns exist?"
irrefragabilis : Goat I said you're right
irrefragabilis : My bad
brngreenback : *tout
seraphina22 : But I shouldn't have to tell you that
atheist_and_agn0stic : è "I have no reason to believe unicrons exist, nevertheless, I have no means at my disposal to categorically exclude them from the possibility of existence".
irrefragabilis : I have a phone call
deadman_932 : seraphina, appeal to authority
the_chainsawpsycho : Too much ganja. hehehehehehehe
deadman_932 : fallacy
zedechiah_the_messiah : tout. thanks Satrap
rendermaster : seraphina, they aren’t believers in idiots like yourself
irrefragabilis : Can you be polite an hold on?
brngreenback : seraphina, micheal jordan wears nikes.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: some of the most educated people in the world are gay, too. So?
seraphina22 : Nothing wrong with gay people.
brngreenback : seraphina, doesn't mean they're good shoes.
goatonfire1 : Yeah, it was a major fucking bad. I mean, you wouldn't even read what you wrote. Treated me like I was an idiot, and I couldn't even MAKE you hear me.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:02:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
rendermaster : what does believingin a god have to do with how you are representing yourself in this chat room, seraphina?
whenjenwhen : i dont see seraphina22
theophrenie : « but gay people are....gay!
gremlin_net : seraphina22: ninety-five percent of scientists are atheistic. Are there people more educated than scientists now?
deadman_932 : count yourself lucky, jenn
the_chainsawpsycho : Goat: You get no respect....
zedechiah_the_messiah : Theo, shut up and kiss me you fool
seraphina22 : I don't know, Render..you tell me?
enki_in_the_abzu : jennifer....count your blessings for that....lol
linuxtech33 : Learn how to hack the "Matrix" with your mind by visiting www.HackersClub.net FREE YOUR MIND.
theophrenie : « you savage zed
brngreenback : seraphina, the point is (you're gonna hate this term too, but) that's an endorsement fallacy.
zedechiah_the_messiah : I Am
rendermaster : you are the one who made the statement, seraphina - now back it up
seraphina22 : The gay thing?
brngreenback : Approaching a bandwagon fallacy, I might add.
linuxtech33 : Learn how to hack the "Matrix" with your mind by visiting www.HackersClub.net FREE YOUR MIND.
khaotic_generati0n : HAHA
linuxtech33 : Learn how to hack the "Matrix" with your mind by visiting www.HackersClub.net FREE YOUR MIND.
rendermaster : wb, deah
linuxtech33 : Learn how to hack the "Matrix" with your mind by visiting www.HackersClub.net FREE YOUR MIND.
deahca2 : ty render
brngreenback : No, the "some of the most educated people" thing
deadman_932 : deah:)
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:03:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gremlin_net : linuxtech33: that's one of the dumbest things I've ever seen posted in here. And I've seen a lot. I've even seen seraphina22.
seraphina22 : Whatever
hotvegasman : deah
deahca2 : <
gremlin_net : linuxtech33: and stop spamming.
deadman_932 : *hugs*
whenjenwhen : what was the statement?
brngreenback : It's like saying that a computer is good, because you got bill gates to say it was.
goatonfire1 : Matrix II really really really really sucked.
brngreenback : The computer could be crap, and it wouldn't change a thing.
linuxtech33 : Learn how to hack the "Matrix" with your mind by visiting www.HackersClub.net FREE YOUR MIND.
whenjenwhen : equilibrium was much better
brngreenback : And, bandwagon fallacy means "everyone else is doing it, why aren't you?"
gremlin_net : brngreenback: actually, if Windoze is on it, it probably is.
suicyde_alley : The techno tribal rave scene was the worst.
atheist_and_agn0stic : è I enjoyed the Matrix
headust_420 : I AM GOD
brngreenback : grem, heh, exactly
deadman_932 : jenn: it was an appeal to authority or a nbandwagon fallacy: "some of the most educated people are religious" or some shit
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:04:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
theophrenie : « seraphina, there is no substitute fr or real love from a real three dimensional human being.
atheist_and_agn0stic : è an exploration of phenomenology
seraphina22 : Ok..can you see me now?
zedechiah_the_messiah : so Seraph, youve asked about us. My turn. You do anal, or what?
suicyde_alley : Believers, Joseph.
goatonfire1 : Seraph, I can see you now.
linuxtech33 : Learn how to hack the "Matrix" with your mind by visiting www.HackersClub.net FREE YOUR MIND.
rendermaster : I wouldn’t go that far, goat; the second installment wasn’t as good as the first, but second installments of a trilogy never are
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : giggles at zed.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: yeah; we can still see you; try again.
linuxtech33 : Learn how to hack the "Matrix" with your mind by visiting www.HackersClub.net FREE YOUR MIND.
deadman_932 : alley:)
linuxtech33 : Learn how to hack the "Matrix" with your mind by visiting www.HackersClub.net FREE YOUR MIND.
i_iggied_jesus : is away (Away)
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : giggles at grem.
seraphina22 : I've tried it. Quite painful..unless you're high and your muscles are relaxed.
suicyde_alley : Joseph:)
deahca2 : some of the most educated people are a mix of atheist theist and even nuts.
gremlin_net : linuxtech33: you were warned. Here's your shirt: http://scriptkiddie.grem.tv
khaotic_generati0n : HAHA
atheist_and_agn0stic : è yes, I'm a nerd, wanna make something of it?
hotboythom : oh deah
khaotic_generati0n : YEAH
hotboythom : this room
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, well youre a trooper to me. At least youve given it the old college try
hotboythom : this room is filled with pussys
rendermaster : lol zed
deadman_932 : haha, zed
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:05:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
atheist_and_agn0stic : è [loads up the uzi]
theophrenie : « seraphina, was gawd watching you that naughty boy?
seraphina22 : Hey..what can I say. I'll try anything once.
deahca2 : pussy's? start a debate. I've seen some wonderful ones in here.
zedechiah_the_messiah : if youre willing to try somemore, Seraph, i mught just love you
gremlin_net : seraphina22: have you tried suicide yet?
goatonfire1 : Render, see it again, and ask yourself "Why are these THREE loooooooooong speeches in this thing?" I thought I was going to run out of air while those people babbled on and on and fucking ON. It sucked. They tried to TELL the movie rather than SHOW it.
the_chainsawpsycho : Zed: She must not have used any lube, or she rushed it.
atheist_and_agn0stic : è [climbs into the tank]
rendermaster : “pussys†- another well-educated member of society
zedechiah_the_messiah : Chain: amen
hotboythom : yeah trust me that know me some of them
polspindoctor : How are you brother Deadman 932?
seraphina22 : Anyway...I'm really interested in knowing Render's educational and work history.
hotboythom : they
goatonfire1 : Linuxtech: click.
atheist_and_agn0stic : è [tha magic invisible tank]
zedechiah_the_messiah : oh
seraphina22 : What do you do for a living, Render?
khaotic_generati0n : HAHA
khaotic_generati0n : HAHA
rendermaster : yes, goat, there was certainly too much exposition, but the action sequences almost made up for it
khaotic_generati0n : GOD= DOG
khaotic_generati0n : <..GOD
enki_in_the_abzu : hes an atty
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:06:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deadman_932 : thank god god is here
khaotic_generati0n : HAHA
goatonfire1 : Almost? Hmm. I have to disagree.
atheist_and_agn0stic : è hotboy - God is a cultural tool, used to control people like you.
seraphina22 : I don't believe that for one minute
enki_in_the_abzu : ask him
goatonfire1 : And besides, the movie had no ending. It just ... stopped.
deahca2 : sera, render is a lawyer
seraphina22 : No way
hotboythom : who controlls me?
jaydmoore : hello room
deadman_932 : hey jd
the_chainsawpsycho : j.d.
polspindoctor : Hello Jayd.
enki_in_the_abzu : he teaches law too
deahca2 : yes way. LOL and teachs a class on computers
deadman_932 : i do, god
irrefragabilis : is away View My Webcam
jaydmoore : hey deadman
jaydmoore : chain
goatonfire1 : No high point, no climax. Just ... stopped.
theophrenie : « Render is our only theist that helps us deprogramm the Christian morons.
hotboythom : sure dead
jaydmoore : hello polspin
enki_in_the_abzu : oh computers? i thought he taught law
deadman_932 : you're now my minion
gremlin_net : Render is a lawyer? I didn't know that.
seraphina22 : Man. What a complete shocker.
polspindoctor : See Bruce Almighty yet?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:07:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hotboythom : atheist who controlls me?
atheist_and_agn0stic : è khaotic_generati0n - uh-hu
deahca2 : <
khaotic_generati0n : <..GOD
atheist_and_agn0stic : è hotboythom - your preacher?
rendermaster : my occupation is spending time in chat rooms making sure to both point out and ridicule trolls and idiots
deahca2 : I"m chomping at the bit to see Bruce Almighty
hotboythom : i am not religious
deadman_932 : hahaha
aliassumpution : ......after a 6 month wait......the National Atheists Club is having its monthly meeting....thank god
deahca2 : Can't wait.
rendermaster : so I’m earning my keep today
enki_in_the_abzu : deah that was actually an assumption on my part....you are probably right
goatonfire1 : Khaotic, my favorite line: "I can see things no one else can see. Is that a new outfit?"
the_chainsawpsycho : Zed: This site offers personal voodoo curses. The li'l baby Jesus told me it was good. http://www.pinstruck.com/
khaotic_generati0n : HAHA
khaotic_generati0n : YEAH
deahca2 : <,could be wrong, enki. I am frequently
polspindoctor : Render, I knew you did something worth while. LOL
rendermaster : that’s a great website, chainsaw
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:08:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
enki_in_the_abzu : deah...my g/f and her daughter saw it last weekend....said it was HILARIOUS
deahca2 : Looks like it enki.
the_chainsawpsycho : You can even track a curse in progress. hehehehehehehe
rendermaster : yes, pols - that job ranks right above “evangelical xian†:)
goatonfire1 : Bruce Almighty was pretty good. Got a little serious in the second half. But it was still pretty good.
deadman_932 : searches for chain and zed dolls
atheist_and_agn0stic : è favourite film - Memento
gremlin_net : It would make sense. No lawyer would ever claim that deities existed in fact. Lawyers, like scientists, know what 'fact' means.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:09:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
rendermaster : jim carrey is getting to old to do the same act he did when he was a teenager
polspindoctor : The pastor at the church I attend recommends Bruce Almighty.
hotvegasman : jinks
hotboythom : see deah all these rooms are the same
deahca2 : There was an Old ( I mean REALLY OLD) Non talkie ( Brit) about that subject. I wonder if the movie was based on that?
enki_in_the_abzu : cool....im gonna curse somebody today....hehe
the_chainsawpsycho : "You can also send and track curses via WAP enabled mobile phones running the Phone.com UP.Browser. Simply visit http://pinstruck.com using your mobile phone for a special WAP version of the site."
goatonfire1 : Khaotic, the arguments are always there. It's just that YOU are growing out of the need to join them. You're ready for the next stage in your personal evolution.
seraphina22 : I know many lawyers who disagree with you, Grem.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: name one.
khaotic_generati0n : Y
deahca2 : Have patience, god. We don't ALWAYS debate
jaydmoore : what's with all of these people taking "the matrix" way too seriously?
the_chainsawpsycho : Sending curses from a mobile phone is slick.
jaydmoore : it's a fucking movie
seraphina22 : A colleague of mine is an attorney for hte Dept. of Energy in Washington..and also one of the most dedicated Christians I know.
hotboythom : you al never debate its just yelling
atheist_and_agn0stic : è deahca2 - did use the G word?
goatonfire1 : No, seriously. If you're tired of it, you're taking the next step.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: and he claims that deities are known to exist in fact?
enki_in_the_abzu : lol....deah just used the g word
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:10:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
atheist_and_agn0stic : è yay
seraphina22 : He's one of the most dedicated Christians I know.
enki_in_the_abzu : thats a first....hehe
jaydmoore : the wife and I went to see it again yesterday, and there was this dude in the theater dressed like neo.. I wanted to slap him
irrefragabilis : is away View My Webcam
deahca2 : LOL< enki. I use "god" generically
gremlin_net : seraphina22: so that's a No. Strawman. Again.
enki_in_the_abzu : lol....oh ok
atheist_and_agn0stic : è uh-hu
deadman_932 : that's not what was asked,seraphina
goatonfire1 : Attorneys aren't trained in facts. They're trained in argument. Lots of them would happily defend a murderer they KNEW was guilty. Because they think it's okay.
seraphina22 : What he does or does not claim to know based on fact..is irrelevant.
theophrenie : « seraphina,you should read up ion the scopes monkey trial, and see how Clarrence Darrow put the Christian William Jennigs Bryant and God on trial.
deahca2 : When I talk about the One G. ( it's caps)
rendermaster : “dedicated xian� what does that mean? you get a gold star of jesus when you preach the gospel to more than 1000 people a month?
polspindoctor : Neo
johntheantibaptist : wasky thats what they get for hiring union labor to build it he he
deadman_932 : seraphina22: What he does or does not claim to know based on fact..is irrelevant.
seraphina22 : I don't know, you tell me, Render?
deadman_932 : but that's just what was ASKED
seraphina22 : I mean..you're clearly the expert here.
rendermaster : you seem to know everyone, seraphina
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:11:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
rendermaster : and know everything
gremlin_net : seraphina22: I didn't say that no lawyer believed in deities. I said that no lawyer is dumb enough to claim that deities are known to exist in fact.
johnny_speed5 : .
rendermaster : about every subject
rendermaster : it’s amazinjg
seraphina22 : On the contrary
gremlin_net : seraphina22: now stop being a fucking idiot.
deahca2 : true, gremlin
deahca2 : in the matter of G, all ANYONE has is belief
deadman_932 : seraphina, i agree, you know nothing, but pretend towards knowledge
goatonfire1 : No, khaotic, I'm not that kind of philosopher. I'm not sellin' anything.
enki_in_the_abzu : true dedication to xianity can be measured on how fast you can tap out the halleluyah hymn on your bible
rendermaster : I don’t know any lawyer who is a theist who would claim that a god or deity is a matter of fact, just a matter of faith
khaotic_generati0n : OH OK
hotboythom : the only reason to debate is to get your point across and be able to learn from both sides and that never happens its always your wrong and im right type of stuff
theophrenie : « seraphina thinks her faith is a license to teach mytnology as fact.
seraphina22 : Well that's all we have to go on.
deahca2 : LOL, enki. braille hymns
atheist_and_agn0stic : è I believe that God is a human construct, the product of man's desire to barter and be comforted by nature.
theophrenie : « mythology^
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:12:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
enki_in_the_abzu : lol
gremlin_net : deahca2: yup. You can believe or not. Deities don't [?yet] exist in fact.
deadman_932 : right, seraphina, all you have is faith
deadman_932 : period
seraphina22 : Right
rendermaster : but what do I know? I’ve only been to law school :)
goatonfire1 : Atheist, and you're right. It's obvious, once you're able to step outside it and see it for what it is.
seraphina22 : So what area of practice are you in, Render?
polspindoctor : Faith comes from experience.
goatonfire1 : Render, you're tainted. :-))
deahca2 : Dio, dear, I just don't understand why it bothers you so much
rendermaster : faith comes from personal experience
deahca2 : date rape?
deadman_932 : experience in gloating over the death of kids, polspin?
gremlin_net : The funny part is that seraphina22 conceded that deities don't exist in fact right at the beginning. She's been trying to slide them back into fact ever since. Uncutous troll.
rendermaster : one person’s faith is not “evidence†to support the existence of a god or deity for anyone but them
deadman_932 : fucking asshole
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:13:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deahca2 : too cool. I've been told gangsta and G spot, and Kenny G, but, date rape is new
enki_in_the_abzu : render represents fundy xians who are on trial for whacking abortion doctors....hehe
goatonfire1 : Faith is taught.
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : Isn't pol the one god kills 15 year olds for out of revenge?
seraphina22 : Faith is just that..Faith. You either have it, or you don't. You can lose it..find it..etc. But there's no rhyme or reason to faith.
gremlin_net : unctuous*
polspindoctor : I dont gloat, I met the man in court on Tuesday.
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : deah: g = ghb
johntheantibaptist : what ever happened to the term of using G to mean money such as 20 G's is 20 thousand
deahca2 : <
deadman_932 : you liar
goatonfire1 : Render, it doesn't even do it for them, really. If they don't really exist.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: right. And there's no facts to deities. You've got it.
seraphina22 : Nope.
rendermaster : lol
deadman_932 : and you DID gloat, motherfucker
deahca2 : I can imagine. LOL> I"m goint to looking for that now.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:14:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
seraphina22 : Just like there's no fact that you're a real live human being that I'm chatting with right now. But I don't doub it one bit.
goatonfire1 : Khaotic, no, I don't "believe" in it.
deahca2 : going to be looking. soory. STILL a crappy typist
rendermaster : seraphina, that’s another strawman
polspindoctor : He said he was doing fine, but I dont believe him, seemed rather strained.
theophrenie : « Faith is not always god based faith. Faith is a human attitude that looks to a better future.
rendermaster : you should understand the term by now
yeticock : diogenes turn ur pm's on
hotboythom : g?
deahca2 : Okay, I'll try. Remind me
gremlin_net : seraphina22: faith is the contention that a condition is true, despite the lack of supporting evidence. Facts are supported by evidence. Deities are myths of faith, not facts.
rendermaster : hi, indon :)
indondasani : greetings, all.
hotboythom : g is some bad stuff to fuck with
indondasani : blinks.
seraphina22 : It seems that every time I make a valid point it's called a "strawman"..I get it now. That's just what you guys say when you know we're right and you can't make a valid argument against it.
deahca2 : how about Ha shem?
rendermaster : its’ not a valid point
rendermaster : it’s irrelevant
seraphina22 : Maybe you are really an attorney aftera ll.
goatonfire1 : Oh, khaotic, godders can come up with more silly stuff than we can ever hope to delve into.
deahca2 : or is that too far out?
indondasani : what "matrix"?
hotvegasman : thats good deah
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:15:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
khaotic_generati0n : HAHA
enki_in_the_abzu : we're still waiting for a valid point....
jaydmoore : indon: lenux is another nutcase that took the movie way too seriously
theophrenie : « Without supportive evidence, the existence of any god is just a postulate, faith is not evidence.
rendermaster : if jesus was here in the caht room and typing online, then that would be evidence to support the possiblity of his existence
indondasani : ...there's no gigantic supersystem to hack into in the world...
polspindoctor : Dont feel bad Seraphina, they do the same to every theist.
irrefragabilis : is away View My Webcam
rendermaster : jesus ain’t here
atheist_and_agn0stic : è if we were in a 'matrix' and it was perfect (not Microsoft of course) how would we ever know?
seraphina22 : Ok..then. I'm Jesus. THere.
rendermaster : no, pols, they don’ot
indondasani : jayd; no, he's probably just using the matrix to push _real_ hacking.
rendermaster : I’m not a theist
gremlin_net : seraphina22: if you made a valid point, without slipping bullshit into it, it wouldn't be a strawman. We're hoping you'll learn to do that someday.
seraphina22 : There's your proof.
rendermaster : rofl
deahca2 : You're Jesus? who knew, sara? Lol
rendermaster : seraphina, another strawman
goatonfire1 : When you're immersed in all this stuff, either as a believer or as a member of a god-obsessed culture, it all seems so huge and important.
rendermaster : you are doing well
gremlin_net : seraphina22: what evidence supports your assertion that you're Jesus?
irrefragabilis : is away View My Webcam
deadman_932 : wow, i can say i met jesus in a chat room
deadman_932 : it was seraphina
irrefragabilis : is away View My Webcam
rendermaster : I meet jesus every time I go to taco bell
seraphina22 : Because I am. And what I say goes.
khaotic_generati0n : TRUE
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:16:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deadman_932 : seraphina, you have issues
polspindoctor : Thats not far off Deadman 932.
seraphina22 : THat's just how the universe works. Get used to it.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: not evidence. Strike Three. Here's your shirt: http://fraud.grem.tv
deahca2 : LOL, sera. That just wouldn't do. Jesus was a doooood
enki_in_the_abzu : i meet him everytime i go to the track
rendermaster : no, seraphina, you are what you know and judging by what we’ve seen, you don’t know much
seraphina22 : If not, I have a nice comfy place in Hell prepared for you.
rendermaster : so you couldn’t be a deity
gremlin_net : seraphina22 has graduated to Known Fraud. Don't give her any money.
hotvegasman : deah dude
rendermaster : lol grem
goatonfire1 : But when you become able to step outside it, it quickly shrinks down to almost nothing. A tiny conceptual universe of nonsense, with all too many people trapped in it like flies in molasses.
theophrenie : « seraphina is now getting deparate! Needs a real love in her life?
the_chainsawpsycho : Gremlin: I'll have to remember that.
deadman_932 : theo: she needs more anal
scotsmanmatt : <-- rational defender of the Christian religion and its Scriptures
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ :|
seraphina22 : We become the objects of our contempt
deahca2 : Hi scotsman
the_chainsawpsycho : Kitty
atheist_and_agn0stic : è hell prolly involves sex and swearing - Christians don't like that.
rendermaster : yes, a faith that needs a great deal of defense :)
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:17:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
jaydmoore : seraphina: you know that Jesus was killed for saying shit like that, right?
gremlin_net : seraphina22: no one cares, Fraud.
scotsmanmatt : Hello deahca2
hotvegasman : scots
scotsmanmatt : hot
jaydmoore : seraphina: as was David koresh
johnny_speed5 : objects of our contempt? what does that mean?
polspindoctor : Thank you Matt for adding some sanity and true rational thinking to the discussion.
seraphina22 : Ok..ok. You guys got me. I'm not really Jesus. There..I said it.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: no one cares, Fraud.
deadman_932 : *** linuxtech33 will be ignored.
rendermaster : seraphina, you need to stick to the xian chat rooms; they are probably stupid enough to not realize after five minutes that you have no clue what you are talking about and that you are a rather poor example of a troll
deahca2 : ANYONE has the option of duel citizenship in Canada
enki_in_the_abzu : lol
goatonfire1 : Ah. My friend just came by and asked me to go on a hike with him, my and my dawg.
goatonfire1 : So bye, y'all.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:18:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : deah: not everyone
rendermaster : bye, goat
theophrenie : « Faith is a human condition, as natural as emotion, and reduced to it's essence, faith exists apart from any beleif in any deities.
deahca2 : MANY immigrants carry duel citizenship
gremlin_net : seraphina22: you're a known fraud now. No one will ever trust your word again. Whatever you post will be disregarded.
goatonfire1 : Khaotic, I'd like to talk to you about this in greater length.
deahca2 : <
gremlin_net : seraphina22: no one cares, Fraud.
polspindoctor : They would deport you.
enki_in_the_abzu : hey deah.....what does it take to get citizenship in canada anyway?
deadman_932 : *** polspindoctor will be ignored. liar. gloating over the death of your ex-wife's lawyer's son is fucking reprehensible, you asshole
seraphina22 : Anyway
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : deah: but apparently canada/russia has reciprocity
deahca2 : marriage doesn't work much anymore, enki.
rendermaster : no, seraphina, just that you were putting up yet another strawman
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : agrees with deadman.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:19:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hotvegasman : deah marriage never worked
enki_in_the_abzu : i mean do you have to go through a naturalization process like in the states?
gremlin_net : Render: she's been doing strawmen for an hour. That last one was dumb enough to construe as fraud.
seraphina22 : You been looking at my pictures, Khaotic? Lol
khaotic_generati0n : :-*
deahca2 : We had quota for a while, Enki. But now, I don't know. Used to be you pretty much had to be a visible minority . But then, we accept refugees on a daily basis.
theophrenie : « seraphina needs a naughty atheist to show her the meaning of real love.
rendermaster : lol theo
khaotic_generati0n : YUP
enki_in_the_abzu : ah i see
seraphina22 : Oh..I was kidding.
khaotic_generati0n : OH
deahca2 : You have the right to work IMMEDIATELY in Canada, not just married but EVERYONE
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:20:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
rendermaster : well, we have the king of trolls here now, seraphina - perhaps he can offer you a job
tireless_2003 : yeticock, if you get married you instantly get the right to do the dishes
seraphina22 : He?
seraphina22 : HE?
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : deah: it all depends
hotvegasman : deah hes from england
seraphina22 : You mean all this time you thought I was a guy?
rendermaster : or perhaps you’d agree to be his queen?
enki_in_the_abzu : oh ok
enki_in_the_abzu : i wasnt sure
deahca2 : Oh oh, depends on the offence
deahca2 : Oh forget that.
rendermaster : as pathetic as you have been, seraphina, there is even someone who is worse
enki_in_the_abzu : lol
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, id schtup you
rendermaster : I know it’s difficult to comprehend
deahca2 : That's a misdemeanor and is no biggee
rendermaster : but it’s true
polspindoctor : Why would anybody use drugs?
seraphina22 : Define "schtup?"
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:21:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
rendermaster : pop your cherry
deahca2 : Wait until the law passes yeti and then nobody will think twice
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : schtup = whore
rendermaster : give you a hot meat injection
deadman_932 : bone, bugger, hose, feed the balony pony
zedechiah_the_messiah : uh, "insert tab A into slot B"..?
seraphina22 : Thank you, Khaotic.
deahca2 : <
theophrenie : « tireless, do you think it is right to condemn someone, oppress them into chronic unemployment and povert, then persecute them as losers?
deadman_932 : hahaha
rendermaster : no, dio, one schtups a whore ;)
theophrenie : « poverty^
irrefragabilis : Shoot goat is gone
polspindoctor : Dont mind Deadman, he resorts to name calling when his arguements fail him.
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : render: :))
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:22:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
khaotic_generati0n : HAHA POL
tireless_2003 : Yeti, did you inhale? You COULD say "but I did not inhale." Important people got away with that. :-)
seraphina22 : Well anybody can tell you..There's nothing better than fucking a born again Christian.
the_chainsawpsycho : takes a schtupping class
deahca2 : Educational skills carry a BIG part. Of course the EASIEST way is to finish your education in Canada and apply while here
deadman_932 : haha, seraphina...sure, there's nothing like fucking a dead fish
theophrenie : « seraphina, how would you know until you tried an atheist?
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : deah: not according to canadian student visa laws
theophrenie : « loves Joseph campbell.
irrefragabilis : loves theo
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:23:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deahca2 : Easy to get a Student visa, dio
seraphina22 : It was a joke..clearly you people have no sense of humour.
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : deah: what yeti wants to do is come here as a student and start working when under that visa
khaotic_generati0n : YUP
deadman_932 : aw, joe campbell was cool
rendermaster : oh, it’s been so long since I’ve been blessed with the opportunity of listening to tireless’ vapid, teutonic blathering! I’m now blessed! :)
deahca2 : Just phone the embassy and ask, yeti.
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, post some pictures of your hoo-ha
indondasani : needs to get some of Campbells books one day.
atheistic_anarchist2003 : hi peeps
polspindoctor : Most of them have no sense of humor because their lives are jokes.
indondasani : something that isn't just a transcript.
rendermaster : what about her “hoochie cootchieâ€, zed?
deahca2 : You can, dio. How many students do you know that work in the summer? Happens daily
khaotic_generati0n : HAHA
atheist_and_agn0stic : è agnostics are good in bed - the possibilities are endless.....lol
theophrenie : « " The Power of Myth", a gift to humanity.
deadman_932 : indon: hamilton books has a few on reduced price sale
indondasani : polspin; wow. I can feel people converting to christianity from your abrasiveness.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:24:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : deah: according to YOUR government's site, a student under the visa must be able to prove the ability to pay for all expenses -- no work allowed!
seraphina22 : You know, Render..good lawyers know that when communicating..it's important to be clear, cogent and succinct.
deadman_932 : power of myth and the hero with a thousand faces
deahca2 : Damn, Dio, I know students that can't even speak English that work in the summer
seraphina22 : I mean..why use a big word when a diminutive one will suffice, right?
gremlin_net : seraphina22: no one cares, Fraud.
irrefragabilis : Yeti do you ever stop talking about yourself?
indondasani : ...because, as everyone knows, insult is the best way to reveal that you've been changed by Jesus!
deahca2 : Once here is another matter, dio.
irrefragabilis : Seriously
tireless_2003 : atheists and agnostics, agnostics will have to say that the statement "I am good in bed" is not absolutely true.
i_iggied_jesus : is away (Away)
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : deah: yeah, I know
irrefragabilis : No, go on yeti
rendermaster : well, pols, we all know how wonderful it is to live the life of a xian missionary; just think - if it were a few hundred years ago, you could have joined your xian friends in killing everyone who refused jesus! :)
irrefragabilis : I'm not in a mic mood
polspindoctor : Speak for yourself Indon.
deahca2 : You see, Dio.the BEST way for Students to work in the summer is NOT to pay income tax. Take the WHOLE pay and just not claim income tax.
theophrenie : « geeze seraphina, my respect kust went up for you.
indondasani : polspin; I think I'd rather speak for whom it applies... YOU.
theophrenie : « just^
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:25:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deahca2 : Who knows? nobody. And if caught, because of their income, it's non applicable anyway
seraphina22 : Render...read the book "I, Lucifer" by Glen Duncan. All of you..I highly recommend it.
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : deah: i remember having to spend hours at the canadian customs showing them that there was no canadian that could do the job i was going to do!
atheist_and_agn0stic : è tireless_2003 - good point, "I believe I am good in bed, but there are no means by which to absolutely verify this" - just doesn't have the same ring - lol
polspindoctor : I cant recall a single incident of a Christian missionary killing anyone.
irrefragabilis : Tony
deahca2 : Oh yeah that one, Dio. Isn't that a bitch?
deahca2 : Better to be a student, Dio.
rendermaster : seraphina, read the book “I, Moron†by Jerk DaDumpkopf
deahca2 : Or just show up here and get a job ( Americans). THEN apply
irrefragabilis : :))
indondasani : ...yeah, it was the conquistadores with them that did the killing.
seraphina22 : Good one, Render.
theophrenie : « if you can't dazzel them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit. Theos Law.
tireless_2003 : atheist and agnostic, the agnostic statement would have to be "there is no way to ultimately know whether or not I am good in bed."
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:26:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : deah: well, since yeti is a member of the commonwealth, you'd think there'd be no problem
seraphina22 : I mean..really. If you hadn't put me in my place yet..you have now.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: no one cares, Fraud.
polspindoctor : Well Indon, wasnt that the Roman Catholic Church?
deahca2 : There WAS, dio. As I said, at one point , immigration had a quota system and visible minorities got 99% of the immigration.
deahca2 : I don't know about now, however
atheist_and_agn0stic : è tireless_2003 - "there is no way to ultimately know whether or not I am good in bed. However, on the strength of contingent knowledge, I regard myself as so being". lol
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:27:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
rendermaster : oy, dio
deahca2 : So, if you were a Black brit or an Asian brit or somesuch ( martian brit) you'd get in right away
indondasani : polspin; yeah. all the protestants did were wipe out the indians in _north_ america.
theophrenie : « Oh no, I just lost my short lived respect for seraphina.
rendermaster : don’t forget the witch trials, northern ireland, laos, cambodia, and the holocaust, indon ;)
polspindoctor : I certainly cant recall a single protestant missionary killing indians.
seraphina22 : How's this for a strawman...Indon..that's like saying all the Muslims do is suicide bombings.
indondasani : polspin; oh, no. just the settlers with them.
rendermaster : right - none of the colonists killed indians
belfino : :-?
gremlin_net : seraphina22: no one cares, Fraud.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:28:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
rendermaster : they were all satanists
silviu3c : :)
belfino : =D>
enki_in_the_abzu : what about joan of arc???
seraphina22 : Ok..if you're trying to annoy me, Grem..it's working.
deahca2 : LOL< render, I was thinking that. If they were SMART missionaries, they wouldn't put it on paper
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph that would actually be a sweeping generalization
gremlin_net : seraphina22: no one cares, Fraud.
waskybarrel : I'm not a Male Chauvenist...I lie to women all the time
the_chainsawpsycho : Render: This is one nation under God, built upon the blood of the godless.
belfino : who was moaning
seraphina22 : Exactly..which is precisely what saying "All the Protestants ever done is wipe out the Indians"
polspindoctor : Well my people came over in 1910, I dont recall them killing indians.
seraphina22 : Right?
tireless_2003 : wasky :-)
gremlin_net : seraphina22: no one cares, Fraud.
indondasani : seraphina; I'm not saying _every_ christian kills native americans...
deadman_932 : michaeltherighthandofgod: So sometimes God takes vengence for his believers.:)
rendermaster : it’s amazing that the pilgrims came to the new world to escape religious persecution back home, yet they wasted no time in persecuting the native american
deahca2 : lucky you, pols
zedechiah_the_messiah : Seraph, yup
rendermaster : you gotta love that jesus!
seraphina22 : Ok..thanks
bbbbink : genocide is relatively insignificant in the overall scheme of things
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:29:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
theophrenie : « Searphina, you must learn to let go your childhood superstitions about invisble boogey men floating around in the air influencing human thought and behavior.
atheist_and_agn0stic : è bbbbink - not if you're a victim.
gremlin_net : trollspindoctor is a known fraud. He's not even a real christian. He just trolls for negative attention.
rendermaster : rofl
deahca2 : who knew?
enki_in_the_abzu : all hail jebus.....my saviorn-a-stick....
deahca2 : <
irrefragabilis : render rules
enki_in_the_abzu : on
joker71man : So this is a room full of piss and vinegar, right?
polspindoctor : Render is a huge bigot.
irrefragabilis : is away View My Webcam
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : screams
bbbbink : well, you could say the same thing about getting hit with a ball as a spectator at a ballgame, too..........
joker71man : And another room where I am invisible
the_chainsawpsycho : It strikes me as odd that a deity couldn't have found an unpopulated area for his chosen people. They always had to murder the people that lived somewhere, and take their land.
rendermaster : how am I a bigot, pols?
enki_in_the_abzu : we see ya joker
polspindoctor : Render should have adapted Christianity years ago.
indondasani : needs to develop a definitive, very thorough (I know that's not spelled right) test to see if someone manages to be a "True Christian".
rendermaster : please - this should be interesting
joker71man : oh good
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:30:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
joker71man : Glad somebody does
joker71man : I thought I was a figment of my own imagination
the_chainsawpsycho : I think the only ones that moved into their chosen land without killing too many were the weirdo Mormons.
bbbbink : Let's see......how many people are there, and have there ever been?
theophrenie : « Theo is getting laid every night:P
gremlin_net : Render: clearly by tolerating only the fourteen million jews who aren't any of us >:)
enki_in_the_abzu : lol
deadman_932 : grem: polspin is a closeted gay man that has an obsession with me..i think he wants my winky
bbbbink : and how many died unjustly?
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : indon: why not use the christian litmus test developed in 353 CE
deahca2 : Oh please tolerating. how kind
seraphina22 : You know, Christians believe that all of these atrocities you guys speak of are results of Satan's influence.
indondasani : chain; ...because nobody _lived_ on that land.
zedechiah_the_messiah : Chain, no. there was a HUGE slaughter
gremlin_net : Render: that, or trollspindoctor is a fraudulent moron.
rendermaster : xianity has done well on it’s own, pols; as time goes on, xians are making the needed statements to cause others to reject it
indondasani : diogenes; eh?
deahca2 : you TOLERATE. how very very kind of you
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Indon, going by the definition of Christian, I'd say it'd be someone who follows Jesus' teachings to the letter. Unfortunately for them, his teachings are rather hypocritical.
zedechiah_the_messiah : not Smith. who was his sidekick? damnit. i cant remember his name.
atheist_and_agn0stic : è bbbbink - hmmm, getting hit at ballgame/being gassed by Nazis - hmmmm, I don't think they compare somehow.
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : indon: yup - nicene creed. all good xtians have to follow the creed
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:31:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
the_chainsawpsycho : Zed: Was there?
bbbbink : statisically they do
gremlin_net : seraphina22: you know, christians are fucking idiots, Fraud.
indondasani : doesn't see how Jesus' teachings were hypocritical.
theophrenie : « it's amamzing how therapeutic pussy is.:X
deahca2 : I do Indon. In fact, I read it in the Christians scriptures
zedechiah_the_messiah : Chain: yeah. DAMNIT i cant remember Smiths sidekick
indondasani : diogenes; hmm. Well, I was thinking of making the test directly based off of the bible...
joker71man : Brigham Young
johntheantibaptist : <<<< note to self do not stand any closer than 5 ft from dusty
zedechiah_the_messiah : YES!
bbbbink : *statistically
polspindoctor : I dont see the Pope mentioned anywhere in the creed.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Indon, isn't the bible considered some of his teachings?
zedechiah_the_messiah : thanks Joker
seraphina22 : The Crusades..The Nazis...etc. and to quote Satan from a book I read that he wrote "I was there..but my victory wasn't in all of the suffering and deaths I caused..My victory came from all of the people left wondering 'How could God do this?'"
joker71man : No prob
irrefragabilis : ty :)
theophrenie : « amazing even:X
bbbbink : one a willful act, the other an accident
zedechiah_the_messiah : Young was the leader of the slaughter as i recall
irrefragabilis : ty :)
the_chainsawpsycho : Brigham the Bloodthirsty Young?
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : a test based on the bible would only show bible knowledge
waskybarrel :
rendermaster : why do you think jesus has never returned, pols? jesus did come to me, a fellow jew, in a vision last week and while he told me that he wasn’t the davidic messiah or part of a triune godhead, he has wanted to come back to earth, but he’s just too embarassed by xianity to ever show his face here again! :)
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ I mean... it
zedechiah_the_messiah : yup yup
gremlin_net : seraphina22: the nazis were christians, Fraud. Nice ad hominem, though.
indondasani : the bible contains _all_ of Jesus' teachings... but only what Jesus actually says in the bible is his teachings.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:32:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
theophrenie : « Satan wrote a book> LOL
joker71man : Yes, he was as viscious as Smith was stupid
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Course, it's possible he didn't exist.
the_chainsawpsycho : hehehehehehehe
scotsmanmatt : is away (Away)
enki_in_the_abzu : oh man....now the devil is writing books.....lol
rendermaster : the nazis WERE xians, for the most part
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ That's true, indon.
jaydmoore : is away (Away)
bbbbink : and how about Stalin's victims............speaking of non-religious societies
seraphina22 : So you think everyone who professes to be a Christian truly is?
seraphina22 : That's interesting
rendermaster : the average nazi was the average, church-going, german citizen
gremlin_net : seraphina22: nope; a lot of them are frauds, Fraud.
deahca2 : Hitler was PROUD of his Christians background and expoused that fact in his book Mein Kampf.
indondasani : I find that most evangelists care more about the apostles than Jesus... because the apostles justify their particular brand of christianity, while Jesus doesn't, and oftentimes probably wouldn't.
rendermaster : who decides which iss the “true†xianity, seraphina?
polspindoctor : Thats the problem with the Jews, Render, they are looking for an earthly king instead of a spiritual mesiah.
theophrenie : « My GF says a hard man is good to find.:-)
deadman_932 : the devil wrote "dilbert", i'm sure of it
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:33:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : render: yes,and the average german nazi was scared shitless of the Wafen-SS
joker71man : True Xianity is not determined by men
theophrenie : « honly cow?
seraphina22 : I'm just saying...to be a Christian..you understand that the enemy can "assume a pleasing form"..
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ -n
joker71man : It is determined by God
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : laughs
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : Everyone knows religious societies are peaceful. Just look at the middle east.
rendermaster : pols, the problem with xians such asyourself is that you’ve made the world into such a horrific place to exist, that no one cares to listen to you any longer, even when you threaten your hell and damnation
gremlin_net : seraphina22: which is why I generally laugh at the statisitcs showing twenty-eight percent of the world to be 'christian'. The idiots only gang up like that when they want numbers. Fraud.
seraphina22 : Many of them believe the Anti Christ will come in the name of Christ
bbbbink : it's obvious almost everyone brings an agenda into this room
bbbbink : ...aka subjectivity
enki_in_the_abzu : how about all those pedophilic priests?
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Indon, have you read about the Eta Carinae star
polspindoctor : Feel free to step out anytime, Render.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: many of them believe that bats are birds. Many of them are morons. Fraud.
seraphina22 : Yeah..how about that, Enki. Read the book "I, Lucifer"
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : enki: huh? you mean the 22 out of the 2,500 priests?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:34:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gremlin_net : seraphina22: no one cares, Fraud.
deahca2 : agreed, Dusty
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : God kills 15 year olds for polspin.
indondasani : yeah, I figure if the christians are right, the first person to show up claiming to be Jesus, whom the fundamentalists will all take seriously, would be Satan.
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : He's special.
enki_in_the_abzu : yea....those guys....
indondasani : kitty; nope. never heard of it.
theophrenie : « Attention Planet Earth, seraphina is now leaving the planet of reality!
deahca2 : same as Bush, he uses his Christianity to his advantage too
indondasani : what, did it nova or something?
polspindoctor : You never had good comprehension did you Zsa?
gremlin_net : indondasani: if the christians are right, the actual messiah will return during the first century.
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : enki: you're a moron if you're going to condemn a majority for the abuses of an extremely small minority
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : Your words speak for themselves, pol.
rendermaster : pols, I’d love to be in the audience when you and xians like you are standing before God to be judged and God says to you, “You’re fate will be that which you’ve spent your life threatening others with: an eternity out of my sight†:)
joker71man : I am a Xian, but I do not believe in forcing other to my point of view.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:35:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
kalypsox2003 : ma ljudi o Äemu vi priÄate!
gremlin_net : joker71man: ah; you're the one....
indondasani : gremlin; well, I realized something about that, and it's strange that no other christian has thought of it.
tony_met2002 : that's a massive star Eta Carinae
polspindoctor : Maybe if you learned to read words you could comprehend there meaning.
the_chainsawpsycho : prays for Dust to become topless
a_lady_waits_for_her_lord : Wow! its wasky the wife beating drunk click!
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : The meaning was perfectly clear.
indondasani : it never says that Jesus would do everything he had to do just on his _second_ trip.
joker71man : I believe everyone has a right to have faith in whatever they want
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : God took revenge for you. Too cute.
apollojedi : Philosophical Christian apologist here. Any questions?
joker71man : it is not up to me to tell them if its right or wrong
irrefragabilis : Bush does NOT turn the other cheek. Not that I am complaining :)
irrefragabilis :
theophrenie : « joker, then why say you are a Christian? Are we supposed to respect that?
rendermaster : neither did jesus, dusty, so it’s not unusual ;)
enki_in_the_abzu : dio....one is too many....and when the church chose to hide it is even more damning
polspindoctor : You will be there Render, to answer for yourself as well.
deadman_932 : "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: *by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."..........Adolph Hitler (Mein Kampf)
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:36:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
theophrenie : « Bush turns after a few thousand bombs.
gremlin_net : indondasani: right. It just says that his second trip will occur before those he spoke to in AD32 had died.
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : enki: then you're even more of a moron!
rendermaster : pols, I know where I will be
indondasani : and many jews do believe in reincarnation... repeated reincarnations... but I guess that happened after the essenes, or they got rid of that belief.
tony_met2002 : i think Eta Carinea is about 9,000 light years from earth
atheist_and_agn0stic : è the proselytising, and so called 'world religions' of Christianity and Islam are very dangerous, they are ultimately committed to obtaining political power and silencing dissent.
rendermaster : that is one of the hypotheses, indon
gremlin_net : indondasani: and that, in his second trip, the world would end.
apollojedi : Philosophical Christian apologist here. Any questions?
rendermaster : it’s not really tradition reincarnation like in hinduism, since one only would return as a human being
deadman_932 : ooo ann coulter
mark666888666 : i dont know about anyother place but in London right now its HOT as funk ... perfect weather ... its days like this it must be easy to believe there is a god
deadman_932 : hahaha
johntheantibaptist : dusty 99.9% of politicians are frauds, it's that simple
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : Bout time someone apologized for christianity.
enki_in_the_abzu : im a moron because i think those guys should have been hung by their balls instead of n=being protected?
scotsmanmatt : is back
indondasani : gremlin; no, I do believe he says that some of the people he was talking too would live to see some of the events in revelation.
gremlin_net : apollojedi: yeah. Have you got any evidence that deities exist?
scotsmanmatt : atheist_and_agn0stic: Not so
joker71man : I think it wrong to make others believe what you think is right.
deahca2 : The subtle use of Christianity is all over Bush. god bless our troups, god bless america. This psychological ruse brings out the belief by Christians that somehow the Lord approves of his actions ( and that of the USA)
theophrenie : « jedi, why are Christians so superstitous?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:37:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
joker71man : We were given brains and free-will why not let others think for themselves
gremlin_net : indondasani: which no one alive in AD32 lived to see.
irrefragabilis : OK wask
irrefragabilis : LMAO
rendermaster : many xians have apologized for their past; it seems that the evangelical branches of most denominations haven’t yet learned how to be that humble
apollojedi : gremlins, yes.
deahca2 : It's very subconscious, but effective in use
atheist_and_agn0stic : è scotsmanmatt - they compromise only when forced to do so.
gremlin_net : apollojedi: what's your evidence?
irrefragabilis : Forget it wask's ignored
apollojedi : any specifics?
indondasani : gremlin; ah, there's probably some obscure line of revelation which came true in the next few decades after that.
irrefragabilis : I don't have time for these strawman arguments
indondasani : what suprises me is that no christian had thought of it.
gremlin_net : apollojedi: not really. Any deities will do.
theophrenie : « but joker, if you exercise your free will, you would be an atheist.
irrefragabilis : It's like he's not even listening to my words
rendermaster : and I thought it was the meek that were to inherit the earth, not evangelical assholes who offer only threats and ultimatums
deadman_932 : can you lay out your evidence, jedi?
polspindoctor : Im not a member of any demonination and so have nothing to apologize for, Render.
irrefragabilis : Can everyone else hear me?
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : enki: according to their belief, it was a serious sin which given penance and prayer would cure the sinner. it didn't work ( and neither do any secular therapies)
scotsmanmatt : atheist_and_agn0stic: you are generalising..
irrefragabilis : Do I talk to fast?
johntheantibaptist : dustty i hear you
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:38:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
apollojedi : I think the evidence supports Christian Theism.
gremlin_net : indondasani: you're suprised that christians haven't worked out problemsolving yet?
rendermaster : wha tevidence, apollo?
indondasani : the Jesus Polyincarnate theory.
deadman_932 : what evidence, jedi?
kill_every_southerner : jimmy carter was a more open xian than any in the 20th century... and he ended his speeches with "God Bless America" a grand total of 0 times... it was a gay thing Reagan came up with
joker71man : We can hear you irre
scotsmanmatt : Many Christian churches support seperation of church and state
rendermaster : yes, xian theism exists
gremlin_net : apollojedi: okay. Show me the evidence.
rendermaster : lol
joker71man : What year in college are you Irre
rendermaster : lol
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : apollo, tell it to the Hindu's.
apollojedi : 1). God explains the beginning of the universe.
rendermaster : apollo, so what?
rendermaster : every god in every faith explains it in their own way
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : enki: where's your outrage of the Anglican church which discovered 30 ministers involved in a child porn ring?
rendermaster : I guess they are all true
rendermaster : right?
deadman_932 : apollo, you claim it does, and without evidence
apollojedi : 2). God best explains objective moral values.
enki_in_the_abzu : when the meek inherit the earth, they are going to have to hire some atheists to tell them what to do with it....lol
atheist_and_agn0stic : è scotsmanmatt - yes, I am generalising, when offering a view about a 'world religion' (especially in a chat room) it's hard not to!
rendermaster : god didn’t explain anything, apollo
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:39:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
rendermaster : lolol
rendermaster : what idiots
apollojedi : 3). God best explains the fine tuning of the universe for life
deadman_932 : there are no objective morals
indondasani : apollo; one can create any number of explanations for the beginning of the universe.
rendermaster : you can’t claim a god did anything, apollo, until you can prove a god exiswts
enki_in_the_abzu : dio....thats wrong too
gremlin_net : apollojedi: no, it doesn't. It's begging the question. There's no evidence that the universe ever 'began', and we know that matter and energy can't be created or destroyed. Strike One. Try again.
indondasani : second, no objective moral values exist.
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : apollo: :)) there is no fine tuning
deadman_932 : fine tuning is post hoc reasoning
theophrenie : « dio, is that guy a prejudice homophobe?
rendermaster : so saying that god “taught’ something is ridiculous
johntheantibaptist : apollo using god as the answer to any question is taking the lazy way out and not actually looking for an answer
apollojedi : 4). God explains intuitive meaning that we sense in life
rendermaster : apollo, enough already
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : theo: i just wanted to put it in perspective
polspindoctor : Christians still sin Dusty.
rendermaster : it’s irrelevant
scotsmanmatt : atheist_and_agn0stic: yes, but there are fallacious generalisations and non-fallacious generalisations
indondasani : third, "fine tuning" presupposes that this universe was somehow meant to produce _us_.
apollojedi : 5). God explains the life death and resurrection of Christ
deadman_932 : that "intuition " is delusional
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : Looks like Ken is back, even though he left "permanently". :))
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : apollo: :))
rendermaster : bye, apollo - ignore fo ryou
indondasani : four, psychology/socioloty also explains intuitive meaning.
deadman_932 : unsupported 5th statement
gremlin_net : apollojedi: morality is subjective. There is no set of global morals to explain. Strike Two. Try again.
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : yup - smells like Ken shit in here
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:40:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
rendermaster : yes, that is ken
atheist_and_agn0stic : è scotsmanmatt - agreed, but I don't regard my generalization as being fallacious.
rendermaster : and ken is now ignored
apollojedi : 6). God explains man's "religious" nature
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ HELP
rendermaster : amen :)
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : <--has NO religious nature.
indondasani : five, there is barely enough evidence to believe that Jesus _existed_ let alone resurrected.
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : laughs.
deadman_932 : god is a product of man's pattern-seeking nature
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ agnostic, what's with the name switch?
indondasani : six, again, sociology also explains religion.
rendermaster : I guess that ken hasn’t ye tlearned that in order to make the claim tha ta god did anything, one would first hvae to prove or even provide substantial evidence that such a god existsx
gremlin_net : apollojedi: nope. Religion is a psychological disorder. Temporal lobe epilepsy. Strike Three. You have no evidence after all.
deadman_932 : well, jedi, you don't have much at all
jaydmoore : is back
jaydmoore : six, god doesn't explain man's "religious" nature... basic socio mechanics explains man's "religious" nature
scotsmanmatt : atheist_and_agn0stic: For it to be non-fallacious those to whom you have experience of need to be respresentative of the class as a whole. How are you going to show that to be the case?
atheist_and_agn0stic : è oh - I did that to tease reason.
polspindoctor : God reveals himself to man on a continual basis, only ignorant men ignore him.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:41:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
theophrenie : « I learn something new in this room everyday, usually from atheists, but I can tell that fundies have no such experience in changing their dogmatic attitudes.
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : Ken threatened us with leaving "permanently" again yesterday. That didn't last long.
apollojedi : I would love to develop these. Would anyone like to do a written dialogue on a board I know of?
deadman_932 : we can take each of your claims in order if you like, jedi
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ wb :)
rendermaster : no, pols, it’s xians like you tha tdrive people away from God
agn0stic_and_atheist : è ahh, that's better.
rendermaster : congratulations
indondasani : dead; we dealt with them all already.
gremlin_net : trollspindoctor: great, Fraud; next time it reveals itself to you, capture it for us; we'll study it and catalogue it.
hotvegasman : damn i came back just as tireless left
gremlin_net : Moron.
deadman_932 : true, indon, i was being gracious
rendermaster : the best advertisement for atheism is evangelical xianity
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:42:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : tackles indon and suckles on his nose
gremlin_net : apollojedi: sure. Here: hit http://board.grem.tv now that you know of it.
apollojedi : I would love to develop these. Would anyone like to do a written dialogue on a board I know of?
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : Yes, I want to be a part of a religion where god takes revenge on 15 year olds to punish their parents.
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : Amen.
johntheantibaptist : scotts well propose we start by disecting all the brains of religious people and then we might be able to find the cause
kill_every_southerner : TBN is a good replacement for comedy central
polspindoctor : Try to blame another for your disbelief and sin in front of God during the judgement, that should go over well.
indondasani : advises against nose suckling.
johntheantibaptist : ^i
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Why?
apollojedi : I would love to develop these. Would anyone like to do a written dialogue on a board I know of?
deadman_932 : oooooo, time for me to collect fine pron
indondasani : was out mowing the lawn all day yesterday and his sinuses are still acting up.
rendermaster : if xians wished to show that their faith was one of love, understanding, and forgiveness, they wouldn’t have to preach a word, they’d just have to treat each other and everyone else with respect and compassoin
rendermaster : hasn’t ever happened
gremlin_net : trollspindoctor: Pascal's Lottery. http://pascal.grem.tv
gremlin_net : Moron.
rendermaster : bye, deadmna
jaydmoore : apollo: each of your claims were dismantled
gremlin_net : apollojedi: I already consented. Go develop your 'evidence' at http://board.grem.tv
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ But I bet the lawn looks nice :)
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:43:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
jaydmoore : what's the point of discussing it further?
indondasani : well, not all day. just a couple hours.
misfit_force_of_nature : rolls some.
indondasani : the lawn's not done being mowed yet.
gremlin_net : apollojedi: I'm not going to your board. You've already defrauded us once. I'm not trusting your word on it.
apollojedi : thanks Grem
rev_sara_the_demon_child : hey sandy :X
polspindoctor : I can see this, but Lord that Polspindoctor made me disbelieve in you and he caused me to sin. LOL
misfit_force_of_nature : Kittah.
theophrenie : « If you have no doubt about being always right, then why debate?
rendermaster : and since xians have spent the last 2000 yeatrs not only commiting violence and oppressoin on non xians, but also on EACH OTHER is rather abundant evidence to support that the majority of xianity is nothing more than a rather cheap and violent way to attain power and keep control
gremlin_net : apollojedi: if you're not a total coward of a fraud, post your evidence to http://board.grem.tv
rev_sara_the_demon_child : arrrrrrrrgh my brother's bitch ass fiancee is driving me insane
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Look at this, indon http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/2003/10/ it's another miserable star
apollojedi : How did I defraud you?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:44:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
theophrenie : « xianity, a growth industry.
indondasani : polspin; a better terming would be, "Jesus, you couldn't really have expected me to convert to _polspindoctor_'s religion, could you?"
gremlin_net : apollojedi: you claimed to have evidence of deities and failed to present any.
gremlin_net : apollojedi: that makes you a fraud.
i_iggied_jesus : is away (Away)
apollojedi : I presented the arguments, I did not develop them
polspindoctor : Yes Indon, that shows the total fraud in that arguement.
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : jj :X
indondasani : and when Jesus shows you burning in Hell because you're one of the christians whom Jesus said "I never knew you," too...
rev_sara_the_demon_child : jjjoe :X
gremlin_net : apollojedi: any further 'evidence' from you will be at http://board.grem.tv where it can be reviewed after the fact.
agn0stic_and_atheist : è scotsmanmatt - Christianity *conquered* Europe, Islam *conquered* North Africa, I regard these statements as matters of historical fact.
apollojedi : you asked for evidence
rendermaster : unfortunately, the minority of xians who DO attempt to emulate the love, understanding, and forgiveness they claim their faith teaches are drowned out by the horrific din of the evangelical/right wing denominations
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : blinks
truthisfalse : so what were we doing that caused you never to call me again and sic the police on me?
indondasani : then whomever made that argument would have been rebutted.
jaydmoore : apollo: and each of those arguments were invalid
rev_sara_the_demon_child : brb need paper
rendermaster : hiya, jjj :)
truthisfalse : Sandy! :x how have you been?
apollojedi : those things I listed are evidences
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:45:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
truthisfalse : sara :x...how are you
gremlin_net : apollojedi: I asked for evidence; you consented to give it to me; you failed to give it to me. Fraud, by contract law.
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : Ducky.
theophrenie : « render, you mean the monks?
rendermaster : lol
truthisfalse : render :-) it's always a pleasure
apollojedi : here are some other areas I like to discuss:
truthisfalse : hello kitty :-) how goes it?
truthisfalse : ducky?
rendermaster : especialloy when we both aren’t “truths†;)
theophrenie : « monks now have internet access.
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : quack, quack.
gremlin_net : apollojedi: discuss them at http://board.grem.tv
irrefragabilis : is away View My Webcam
rev_sara_the_demon_child : jjjoe I'm deeply annoyed
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : giggles at render
truthisfalse : lol Sandy
scotsmanmatt : agn0stic_and_atheist: so how do you get from then to now?
indondasani : we both have truths, are yours the same as mine?
truthisfalse : why sara?
apollojedi : 1). Sagan's Balance ("extraordianary claims require extraordinary evidence")
gremlin_net : apollojedi: no one's going to take you seriously in here anymore, now that you're a known fraud.
rendermaster : you show me yours, indon, I’ll show you jjj’s ;)
polspindoctor : I dont recall any Christians fighting a religious war, must have been before my time, got any evidence of this?
rev_sara_the_demon_child : jjjoe my brother's fiancee is a fucking stupid bitch
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:46:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
apollojedi : 2). Pascal's Wager (use and miuses)
truthisfalse : indon...mine is the same as...wait...i don't know
indondasani : render; no, I was quoting JC Superstar.
rendermaster : lol
gremlin_net : apollojedi: http://pascal.grem.tv
indondasani : Pilate.
gremlin_net : Fraud.
apollojedi : Ockhams' Razor
apollojedi : GOTG (god of the gaps)
rendermaster : right, pols; xians have been such a calming and peaceful voice for the world during the last century
hotvegasman : sara wouldnt that make your brother dumb too
truthisfalse : sara...uh, why (and has visions of your brother's fiancee having intercourse with female dogs)
rendermaster : rofl
irrefragabilis : is away View My Webcam
apollojedi : grem, the Wager is often misused
theophrenie : « jedi, there is no brillaint philosophical, logical arguement you can invent that proves any god or gods are real.
jaydmoore : apollojedi: ockhams' razor does nothing to support your claims... the other's are just invalid arguments
truthisfalse : render...but of course they have lol
polspindoctor : Yes and Gremlin has adopted his new name of Fraud, fits him well.
apollojedi : it was not designed for atheists
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:47:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ What happened ?! My html files are coded in MS sort of HTML what the fuck!
enki_in_the_abzu : pols....what history books have you been reading? were they produced by DC comics?
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : screams
rendermaster : theo, he SAYS so
the_chainsawpsycho : Kitty >:)
kill_every_southerner : hahahaha
rendermaster : isn’t that enough?
theophrenie : « brilliant^
agn0stic_and_atheist : è scotsmanmatt - my premise, and I concede that it is only that, is that the rise of secular and scientific power have limited the scope for Christianity to exercise it's *conquering* past. Islam, still *conqueres* - Iran and Afghanistan being a relatively contemporary examples.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : looks at chain
gremlin_net : apollojedi: yeah. It's really Pascal's Lottery. If you believe in Jayzuz, and I don't, Odin sends us both to Nastrand.
truthisfalse : gremlin...sheesh...what is the deal with people dumping on you lately...have you been going for the visceral reactions?
rendermaster : can’t see matt]
kill_every_southerner : bill took your html and recoded it :))
hotvegasman : kitty they are doing that with porn files now
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ No. You didn't. You couldn't have.
kill_every_southerner : :))
rendermaster : can’t see matt
gremlin_net : truthisfalse: they're just getting desperate.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Vegas, what? These aren't porn files :P
the_chainsawpsycho : Kitty: Maybe you didn't sacrifice a lamb to the MS gods?
truthisfalse : gremlin...sheesh...i guess so
polspindoctor : Welcome back Render.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:48:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
truthisfalse : chain...i made love to a lamb...is that the same?
tony_met2002 : a flare up of the star Eta Carinea was equaled to the size of our solar system
indondasani : gremlin; you'll have to take into account deities that don't care about who believes in what.
apollojedi : Grem, what area are you interested in discussing on your board?
archaic_charm : hi
rendermaster : I couldn’t see matt and I certainlyu couldn’t survive without being able to get my requisite amount of giggles from his statements :)
gremlin_net : indondasani: how do you know?
truthisfalse : sara...so what is the deal with your brother's fiancee...i didn't see a reply
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Chain, I sacrificed two websites. That should've been enough.
the_chainsawpsycho : Truth: I don't know.
archaic_charm : so who's an atheist then?
agn0stic_and_atheist : è me
apollojedi : Grem, what area are you interested in discussing on your board?
hotvegasman : yep
indondasani : gremlin; Buddhists, for instance.
gremlin_net : indondasani: according to the bible, Yhvh cares a lot. He got pretty pissed over that Baal Zevuv thing.
theophrenie : « charm, I am guilty as charged.
enki_in_the_abzu : me too
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : is an atheist
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:49:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
truthisfalse : chain...could you check your animal sacrifice and seduction reference book for me...i've lost my copy
archaic_charm : wow. lots of atheists
indondasani : gremlin; I mean, in your Pascal's Casino.
hotvegasman : and yeti didnt say anything for like five minutes
agn0stic_and_atheist : è is atheist with hots for kitty
apollojedi : Grem, what area are you interested in discussing on your board?
truthisfalse : hi hot...how goes it?
hotvegasman : truth
the_chainsawpsycho : I'm too busy sneezing. : (
truthisfalse : kitty...people are hot for you?
theophrenie : « feline fornication is a grave shame
gremlin_net : apollojedi: you can post your hypothesis of deities on my board, supported by evidence showing them to exist. Then we'll review your evidence.
truthisfalse : arch...where?
polspindoctor : Deadman got scared again and ran away.
tony_met2002 : Kitty, you can put your bookmarks on messenger
indondasani : polspin; do you know what the term "Great Commission" means?
apollojedi : got it
hotvegasman : i will be hot for kitty in 2 years
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ :">
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Truth, apparently. *giggles*
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Tony, what are you talking about?
polspindoctor : Yes the Great Co Mission.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:50:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
the_chainsawpsycho : shivers upon mention of the Great Commission
indondasani : polspin; then what is it?
archaic_charm : srethere any christians in here or are you all atheists?
rendermaster : what’s in two years, hot? when she becomes legal? ;)
theophrenie : « The Great Emission? Whats that?
indondasani : chain; I've asked two "christians" this question, so far. Neither got it right.
archaic_charm : aer*
polspindoctor : It doesnt advocate killing, Indon.
archaic_charm : doh! are*
truthisfalse : render...how about that...hot has limits
indondasani : polspin; say what it is.
agn0stic_and_atheist : è archaic_charm - there are some Christians in here, I think.
indondasani : not what it isn't.
hotvegasman : praise jesus
rendermaster : there is certainly more than one way to interpret scripture, pols
hotvegasman : kitty its true
truthisfalse : the world never cesases to amaze me
gremlin_net : indondasani: there again, who knows what deities care about? For all we know, the Great and Ginchy Jellyfish of Alpha Centauri, who created the universe, is okay with atheists, but sends all who worship false deities into eternal torture.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:51:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
indondasani : gremlin; toss that in there.
polspindoctor : Its a mission statement for the believer to spread the Gospel.
rendermaster : that is the inherent problem with any scripture or holy writing: there are a myriad of ways to interpret them and no final authority to ask to decide which is the “right’ in terpretation
indondasani : polspin; you don't know what it actually says, do you.
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : mark: :))
polspindoctor : I have it in front of me.
gremlin_net : indondasani: might as well. Beyond the millions of deities people assert to exist, you have to consider all the ones no one's thought up yet.
irrefragabilis : is away (away)
theophrenie : « Thankyou render for saying that!
rendermaster : for example, the catholic church used the parable in Luke 19:27 as their rallying cry for both the crusades and the inquisition
indondasani : polspin; I would have prefered you to recite it from memory, as you should as a christian know it, but... what does it say?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:52:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
rendermaster : as did protestantism for the witch trials
misfit_force_of_nature : for some reason thinks of the "Coneheads" laughing at the Bible....
rendermaster : not to mention, “thou shalt not suffer a witch to life†in exodus
tony_met2002 : http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap010126.html here's a site that has pictures on astronomy everyday, plus has links . try this site Kitty
gremlin_net : Wow. seraphool finally fled. Good.
hotvegasman : gives Christian Hillbilly KY a big hug
agn0stic_and_atheist : è Gods can't easily 'care' about things, assuming they are omniscient, they know *everything* that is going to happen, hence there's nothing to 'pine' over.
polspindoctor : Yes and the Catholic Church has much to answer for.
jaydmoore : sometime in the future, people will look back and say: "the ancient americans used to worship the miller lite can"
rev_sara_the_demon_child : ahhhhh fuck
rendermaster : not just teh catholic church
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ I have no idea. I'm supposed to be in the AvC room. I was in the AvC room.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : giggles
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Spread the lard?
hotvegasman : sara sure
gremlin_net : And my lightbulb burned out.
indondasani : polspin; can you say what the Great Commission says?
rendermaster : martin luther was one of the most virulent racists and anti-semites to ever walk the earth and he as the founder and inspiriation for the reformation and the protestant movement
gremlin_net : I hate that.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:53:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
archaic_charm : agnostic atheis> there's loads of atheists. Where are all the christians? lol
theophrenie : « cheeses is lard.
the_chainsawpsycho : Kitty: You aren't in the A vs C room?
rev_sara_the_demon_child : hot sure what?
rendermaster : not exactly a wonderfiul pedgiree
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Ok.
polspindoctor : I dont know what any other church did and dont really care, non-denominational.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Chain, I am. I'm here.
the_chainsawpsycho : Just checking.
hotvegasman : fuck
gremlin_net : I'd replace the lightbulb, but I might just try praying for light instead....
rendermaster : pols, that’s a wonderful way to wriggle out of any responsiblity
polspindoctor : Make your point Indon and quit playing games.
agn0stic_and_atheist : è archaic_charm, they come in from time to time, we need more!
indondasani : polspin; what is the Great Commission!
theophrenie : « render, what do you think of the genology of the OT. Is it true or myth?
polspindoctor : I already answered that, next.
the_chainsawpsycho : Indon: That reminds me of the Wiccan Testâ„¢. It's funny.
indondasani : polspin; you got it wrong.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:54:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
rendermaster : “well, I’m not a member of a church, I’m juust a xian, which is not a religion, but a personal relatoinship with jesus christ†:)
christian_hillbilly_ky : gives hotvegasman a big hug
indondasani : I guess you forgot to read the verse AFTER it says "Disciple all nations">
enki_in_the_abzu : lol
indondasani : ., rather.
polspindoctor : Thats right on Render.
rendermaster : myth until shown otherwise, theo
archaic_charm : agnostic> we do don't we! if your a christian shout really loud so we can hear you!
indondasani : would you be using the KJV?
indondasani : or the NIV?
jaydmoore : polspin: I think he was being sarcastic.. actually, it's a load of shit
rendermaster : I’d lvoe to be able to claim the genealogy of the hebrew scrpiture was historicla fact, but it is not
jaydmoore : a big load
hotvegasman : i can hear you
gremlin_net : Render: christianity isn't a religion? Cool. So we'll be taxing them now?
indondasani : because the verse after says "Teach whatsoever I have commanded."
rendermaster : it is am atter of faith to accept it
rendermaster : lol grem
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:55:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
indondasani : and that seems a rather explicit command, not to just preach, but to actually TEACH Jesus' words.
polspindoctor : Its a stupid game.
rendermaster : the great commission has never been used in the way xians claim jesus taught it
agn0stic_and_atheist : è archaic_charm - I'm one of the atheists, but if you stick around long enough you'll see a few, honest!
the_chainsawpsycho : wants to plant his seed in a few Christians, as a little payback
indondasani : as part and parcel of discipling.
rendermaster : it has ALWAYS bene used as an excuse for bloodshed, oppresion, and suffering
jaydmoore : LOL kill
enki_in_the_abzu : render....in what respect? the actual lineages or because of the long lives?
hotvegasman : chain been there done that
rendermaster : some of both, enki
hotvegasman : .99 cents
archaic_charm : agnostic> im neither! thats why I'm here.. I thought I would be able to be in the middle somehow.
archaic_charm : lol
the_chainsawpsycho : Vegas: Don't tell me you retired from that, too? *sheds a tear*
polspindoctor : So the Bible commands me to kill all nonbelievers? LOL
indondasani : polspin; I consider it most interesting that even when it is RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU, you can't list the part of the Great Commission that commands you to TEACH.
theophrenie : « genealogy^ corrected
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:56:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
rendermaster : there isn’t any archeological evidence to support most of the genealogy found in the hebrew scripture
rendermaster : I wish there was
hotvegasman : i only do christians that fake it
agn0stic_and_atheist : è Anti-Semitism was most obviously systematized by the actions of the first crusaders - attacking Jews in Germany 'on their way' to the Holy Lands.
the_chainsawpsycho : hehehehehehehe
johntheantibaptist : kill judging by haow many churces there are in the us i would have tosay somewhere in the neighborhood of about 100 billion
johntheantibaptist : how*
rendermaster : it started long before that, agnostic, but y9ou are right
theophrenie : « but don't you think, some place , far after Adam and Eve, it may be accurate?
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ And then you came in. And then noone else said anything.
enki_in_the_abzu : hmmmm....i thought that was a pretty basic premise in judaism....i mean as far as keeping the bloodlines pure and all
rendermaster : perhaps, theo
agn0stic_and_atheist : è archaic_charm - neither? well, you're still welcome I'm sure.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:57:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
indondasani : polspin; you want to know something even more interesting?
rendermaster : enki, how could I claim something to be fact just because I wish it was?
archaic_charm : thanks agnostic
indondasani : I've asked a couple other evangelistic christians that question.
indondasani : they ALWAYS neglect that part.
rev_sara_the_demon_child : I think I wanna kill someone
polspindoctor : The estimate I heard was 2 Billion Christians worldwide and 900 million Roman Catholics.
enki_in_the_abzu : i see your point...
rendermaster : yes, about right, pols
theophrenie : « rev, don't do it. they aren't worthy it.
kill_every_southerner : get a job slaughtering pigs
archaic_charm : I believe in something. Not sure If i would call it god though... lo.
archaic_charm : l
polspindoctor : I already answered your question Indon, have another?
agn0stic_and_atheist : è archaic_charm - easter bunny? just kidding.
kill_every_southerner : I believe in cheese
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:58:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
rendermaster : I would hope that it is all historically accurate, enki, but until the time that it can be shown to be accurate, I can’t claim it is a fact
gremlin_net : trollspindoctor: you heard wrong. 1.9billion christians, including about nine hundred million catholics.
indondasani : polspin; so now that we've established that you don't care about Jesus' command to teach people what he said, let's look at why?
indondasani : polspin; you got it wrong.
hotvegasman : almost halh the christians are pagan
hotvegasman : half
indondasani : I noted how you got it wrong.
rendermaster : there are lots of xians and about half of them are catholic
rendermaster : :)
archaic_charm : lol agnostic. Something like that yah! lol. One thing is I never get offended about it
hotvegasman : render like i said pagan
the_chainsawpsycho : Catlicks....
gremlin_net : The only single sect larger than catholicism is islam, with 1.3billion people.
rev_sara_the_demon_child : kicks chain in the balls
seraphina22 : Oh good...all of my followers are still here.
polspindoctor : Well Indon, spreading the Gospel is teaching what Jesus said, quit playing your stupid game.
theophrenie : « Everyone, down deep may be an atheist, especially when it comes to jumping off a tall building into a gods arms.
rendermaster : and we do realize that there are protestant denominations that reject catholicism as part of xianity
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 11:59:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
the_chainsawpsycho : pimps Woody out downtown
agn0stic_and_atheist : è archaic_charm - if you come here regularly then you have to leave your 'being offended' jacket at the door, sooner or later everyone gets 'attacked' over their position.
jaydmoore : grem: he wasn't off by much
indondasani : polspin; perhaps you don't want to teach what Jesus says because you believe that, say, the Gospel on the Mount became worthless upon Jesus' death.
rev_sara_the_demon_child : cool, I can finally score
indondasani : or, if not worthless, not required.
rendermaster : they claim that papacy is the seat of satan
enki_in_the_abzu : gotcha render. hey is it true that the assyrian(?) texts state that the hebrew authors actually reduced the ages of the biblical patriarchs by a factor of 60 which would make their lives even longer than the bible states?
rev_sara_the_demon_child : downtown where??
hotvegasman : lmfao
indondasani : polspin; he didn't even say that.
the_chainsawpsycho : Woody: Down by the sleazy XXX stores and theaters.
hotvegasman : lmao
indondasani : he said "Disciple all nations, and teach them what I have told you."
archaic_charm : agnostic> lol. who's gonna attack little me? (naiively)
rev_sara_the_demon_child : Kick ass!
indondasani : that's not "Preach what John said."
the_chainsawpsycho : It's primo real estate.
gremlin_net : jaydmoore: he was off by nearly a billion. He was suggesting that there were two billion christians *plus* a billion catholics.
indondasani : it
rendermaster : I hadn’t heard that, enki, but I do know that “elongated lifespans†in such narratives were common not only in hebrew texts
indondasani : bleh.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:00:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
jaydmoore : oh
jaydmoore : LOL
indondasani : it's "Teach people to be christian."
polspindoctor : Generally speaking anyone who identifies themselves by their denomination, ie Catholic, Baptist, does not put Christianity first.
seraphina22 : Man..I know hillbillies. Hillbillies are friends of mine, and you sir, are no hillbilly.
agn0stic_and_atheist : è archaic_charm - when I say 'attack' I really mean, try and pull apart your view, lol
indondasani : "Teach people what JESUS Taught."
rendermaster : and that is yoru opinion, pols
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : pol: that's garbage
jaydmoore : I thought that he meant of those 2 billion, there were 900 million catholics
rendermaster : which is no more or less vfalid than that of any othre xian
rendermaster : is it?
christian_hillbilly_ky : laughs at seraphina22
agn0stic_and_atheist : è I was being overly dramatic there.
rev_sara_the_demon_child : I'm going to new england this summer chain, think I'll score??
theophrenie : « That old age mythology is an interesting hook to get the reader believing in the wages of sin is death idea.
archaic_charm : lol agnostic.
gremlin_net : trollspindoctor: not unless they're trying to beat islam for numbers by teaming up for statistics.
hotvegasman : seraph must be a red neck cause they hate hillbillies
indondasani : polspin; do you know and follow what Jesus taught?
the_chainsawpsycho : Woody: If you stop at my house you might. ;)
rev_sara_the_demon_child : chain where do you live?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:01:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
rendermaster : how can one xian claim that their denomination is somehow the “right†one? who do we ask that has the authority to make that determinationj?
archaic_charm : fair enough! ;)
the_chainsawpsycho : Woody: In northwestern Ohio.
indondasani : or does your theology ignore the part where Jesus implied that his teachings were still valid even AFTER his death.
gremlin_net : jaydmoore: read what he's saying now. He's placing catholics apart from christians.
rev_sara_the_demon_child : jfire :X Oh god of cyber oral
rendermaster : yes, grem
jaydmoore : grem: yeah, he's done that before... LOL
seraphina22 : Oh I see how it is. I turn my head for one minute and you guys are attacking other people.
jaydmoore : a lot of xians do
rendermaster : many baptists and pentacostals do
seraphina22 : I'm so disapointed.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: no one cares, Fraud.
jaydmoore : pretty sad, really
seraphina22 : disappointed even
a_lady_waits_for_her_lord : jesus taught people to give all thier belongings,give up family ties anfd follow him..sounds like Jim Jones lol
theophrenie : « render, isn't it determined when they count the mney?
rendermaster : and all the mainstream xians dismiss mormonism and the jehovah’s witness
seraphina22 : aw...now...that's better.
polspindoctor : Instead of asking me that why dont you examine what you do, Indon?
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : gremlin: not only catholics, but lutherans, presbyterians, methodists, etc
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:02:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
rev_sara_the_demon_child : jfire: I'm not so young anymore :((
hotvegasman : jfire shes legal now
indondasani : polspin; I'm not christian. I don't claim to be christian.
indondasani : you do.
archaic_charm : but I can't see myself conforming either way... will probably just carry on beieving in something but not knowing what....
agn0stic_and_atheist : è archaic_charm, sounds sensible, but I would back up your chat room discussion with some reading too maybe.
gremlin_net : Render: each christian dismisses all but one person as a christian.
polspindoctor : Maybe you should convert then.
rev_sara_the_demon_child : chain I'll be stopping in Cleveland
theophrenie : « rev, can I put some spring back in your hen?
rendermaster : the lutherans share such a wonderful legacy; I know a few lutherans that after learning about martin luther and his hatred, left the church rather quickly
jfirebird1 : yeah but u of age mmmmmmmmmmmmm love an 18 yr old>:)>:):x
the_chainsawpsycho : Woody: That's on the other side of the state from me.
indondasani : polspin; turning into you would hardly be an improvement... but, of course, I don't believe you're christian anyway.
rendermaster : it’s amazing how mahy protestants have no idea about martin luther
rendermaster : they revere him
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:03:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
indondasani : you certainly haven't been able to defend your status as christian.
rendermaster : and that is SCARY
rev_sara_the_demon_child : chain well I'm going from Iowa to New England, you have to travel too X(
polspindoctor : I was a Lutheran at one time before I found Christianity.
rendermaster : lol
jaydmoore : martin luther was a bit of a crazy bastard
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : pol: :))
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : is away (Away)
rev_sara_the_demon_child : jfire then come over here
gremlin_net : trollspindoctor isn't christian. He's a trolling fake, out to make christians look dumber on average.
brngreenback : So, what'd I miss?
johntheantibaptist : theo that is putting it nicely
the_chainsawpsycho : Woody: I guess I could get a cheap motel room around there somewhere.
rendermaster : martin luther was hitler’s main inspiration for his “final solutionâ€
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : grem: he's doing a good job, don't you think?
jfirebird1 : im in memphis
indondasani : polspin; what does Jesus say about making oaths?
agn0stic_and_atheist : è Luther did break the hegemony of the Catholic Church. We Europeans might all still have been going to mass without him - but I agree, he wasn't exactly 'a nice guy'.
archaic_charm : agnostic> yeah. I'm reading the bible. (well I'm reading the psalms anyway)
archaic_charm : lol
rendermaster : yes, pols - the nondenomination xian waves that banner a great deal, so they don’t hav e ot take repsnsilbty for the past of xianity
gremlin_net : diogenes_of_synope_2003: not that I encourage it, but yeah.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:04:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hotvegasman : sara your from iowa
rendermaster : “well, I don’t belong to any church, so it’s not my problemâ€
brngreenback : Any madcap antics from those whacky theists I need to know about?
theophrenie : « bloody bastards are never nice guys.
kill_every_southerner : newton wasn't a nice guy either
hotvegasman : please tell me you are not a pig farmer
rev_sara_the_demon_child : chain: do they have those ones that rent by the hour? I'm not gonna stay there too long
hotvegasman : bye hillbilly
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : is back
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Comparing Luther to Newton?
kill_every_southerner : i am not a pig farmer
polspindoctor : Yes I was even a Baptist for a time before I found Christianity.l
rendermaster : what does luther have to do with newton?
rendermaster : lol
rev_sara_the_demon_child : hot: yes I'm from Iowa
hotvegasman : not you sara
rev_sara_the_demon_child : and no I'm not a farmer
gremlin_net : brngreenback: apollojedi failed to present evidence of deities, so he's promised to write out a testable hypothesis of deities on my board.
agn0stic_and_atheist : è archaic_charm - you might be interested in this site: http://www.ffrf.org/lfif/contra.html
gangsta_aphrodite : hello every1
rendermaster : yes, pols, and nowyou’ve found the perfect way to not have to take responslibyt for anyone or anything but yourself
brngreenback : polspindoctor, what's the difference between babtism and christianity?
rendermaster : how wonderfulf for you!
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:05:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
tormented_soul333 : talk shows lower ones IQ..again I ask myself.."where do they find these people"?
rendermaster : that is xianity in a nutshell
rev_sara_the_demon_child : I live in a city of 30,000
archaic_charm : agnostic> thanks! will take a look. :)
rendermaster : worry about yurself and no one else
brngreenback : Grem, excelent.
hotvegasman : i dont care if your a farmer pig farmers smell
rendermaster : not taking responsility for anyhone else
rendermaster : whoopee
johntheantibaptist : tormented they find them under rocks
gremlin_net : brngreenback: he must still be typing it....
indondasani : polspin; why can't you answer my questions about the teaching of Jesus?
indondasani : don't you KNOW them>?
brngreenback : heh
indondasani : ?, rather.
rendermaster : indon, if xians di dwhat jesus taught, they’d still be jewish :)
tormented_soul333 : i think so....these people have no shame.... nor education
brngreenback : ahh, pol spin is a fraud.
gremlin_net : Render: that's true....
jaydmoore : gremlin: he's the same guy that came in here awhile back and challenged all atheists in the room to join HIS board... it was some apologetics board... LOL, I figured the guy would be back
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:06:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
rendermaster : yes, brng
rendermaster : a troll
hotvegasman : jesus taught nothing
rev_sara_the_demon_child : am not a farmer hot
indondasani : render; true, but they'd be rather distant from orthodox jews, though.
rev_sara_the_demon_child : have never been on a farm
rendermaster : not really, indon
hotvegasman : jesus just spun the old test
brngreenback : well, pol spin doctor, what do you have to say in response to all of this?
gremlin_net : jaydmoore: which is why I exposed him as a fraud before he could do that again. If you can't trust him, you can't trust his board.
johntheantibaptist : tormented i am waiting for one just one to come on a show and admit everything was thier fault and that thier parents and family were just great
tormented_soul333 : hahahaha
jfirebird1 : oh hot shes a city chick:))
jaydmoore : there were a bunch of ground rules for his board. it was a bunch of bullshit
seraphina22 : I always thought Jesus said to "Love your neighbor as yourself" and to "Do unto others as you'd have done unto you"..and all that jazz. Not consistent with Christians only caring about themselves.
rev_sara_the_demon_child : twists her hair into dreads
brngreenback : Absolutely nothing. Great.
rendermaster : what jesus did and what xians do have nothing to do with one another
indondasani : render; there'd probably be parts of the law which a christian would not follow, or follow differently.
hotvegasman : sara i was raises in chicago all iowaina are pig farmers lmfao
rev_sara_the_demon_child : chain do you like chicks with dreds??
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:07:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
rendermaster : that’s a brillian strawman, serphinam
rendermaster : congrats
brngreenback : Welcome back, reason
the_chainsawpsycho : Woody: Sure.
reason_over_faith : hey
rev_sara_the_demon_child : hot: Yeah, and I've lived here for 18 years and have never met a goddamn pig farmer. I know, so quit being an ass
indondasani : they'd be considered unorthodox by jewish standards, I do believe.
gremlin_net : jaydmoore: there are rules for mine, too. Don't assert that deities exist unless you can prove them as fact. Otherwise, according to the EULA, you owe me ten thousand bucks.
rendermaster : jesus didn’t even follow his own advice
jfirebird1 : i do if its not between their legs:))
seraphina22 : Well we can't help what Christians do, now can we?
reason_over_faith : LOL sara
jaydmoore : LOL grem
rendermaster : yes, seraphina, we can
polspindoctor : The difference is that in defining oneself with a particular denomination you are limiting your beliefs to their religious dogma. So to be a Baptist you must for example believe in their particular form of Christianity. Now to call ones self a Christian is to proclaim yourself a follower of Jesus the Christ and not a follower of a particular religious body of dogma.
rendermaster : and we do
tormented_soul333 : well considering the majority of the people on the shows are po' white trash..i doubt that will happen.... why is there always white trash and ghetto blacks on those shows?
rev_sara_the_demon_child : jfire no I have no dreds between my legs
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:08:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
rendermaster : pols, that isn’t even close to the truth
rendermaster : but a nice lie
jfirebird1 : just checking:))
rev_sara_the_demon_child : although that's not a bad idea...
polspindoctor : That says it in a nut shell.
reason_over_faith : poor sara
rev_sara_the_demon_child : I have a 'fro there instead
brngreenback : polspindoctor, okay. So it's all a matter of class heirarchy.
jaydmoore : grem: yeah, but I mean there were some STUPID rules for his... for instance, "you will not abbreviate christian as 'xtian', anyone doing so will be banned from this site"
indondasani : polspin; your proclamation seems to be falling short of the truth!
jfirebird1 : likes them trimmed:x:x
johntheantibaptist : tormented as i said they find them under rocks and what else are you going to find under a rock but scumbags
rendermaster : I thought that emulating jesus was the goal of a xian; but if jesus lived his life as an obsrevant jew, wouldn’t someone who emulated jesus have to do the same?
rev_sara_the_demon_child : jfire = pedophile
theophrenie : « Jesus didn't say that seraphin, that has always been a basic feature of religions all over the world, predating Christianity. Christians did not invent love.
seraphina22 : Here's what I think..not that anybody cares..but just to set the record straight:
kill_every_southerner : because southerners are stupid and ghetto blacks are really southerners
brngreenback : polspindoctor, just so I'm positive, is there anything wrong with a babtist claiming to be a christian?
jfirebird1 : but will lick one shaved:))
jaydmoore : kitty: some fuckface that was here earlier
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:09:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
rendermaster : how does one emulate jesus by being a xian?
rendermaster : lol
kill_every_southerner : and white trash are of course southerners
brngreenback : seraphina, I always care. I'm gullible that way.
gremlin_net : jaydmoore: naturally. Since xian was a christian abbreviation when they were *all* illiterate.
polspindoctor : Actually its a matter of priority, are you a Baptist or a Christian (a follower of Christ)
indondasani : proclimation?
jfirebird1 : i love weed:))
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Oh.
tormented_soul333 : shaving is not all t hat bright...i dont think stubble would be fun to lick
rev_sara_the_demon_child : I enjoy my pubic 'fro, thank you very much
seraphina22 : I believe that since the beginning of civilization..mankind has struggled to find meaning and purpose in life..leading to the creation of various gods throughout the ages.
jaydmoore : exactly grem
indondasani : polspin; why do you refuse to speak the teachings of Jesus?
reason_over_faith : sara attracts more flies that way
seraphina22 : They've had alot of interesting creations...The ancient Greeks particularly.
indondasani : are you _afraid_ of what Jesus has to say about your behavior?
rendermaster : cause he’s a troll, indon
rev_sara_the_demon_child : FUCK you reason :))
theophrenie : « seraphin, now you are an agnostic or atheist.
reason_over_faith : lol
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:10:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brngreenback : polspindoctor, okay. So, what exactly is involved in being a christian?
seraphina22 : We look back on all of that as nonsense now, and someday people will look at Christianity, Islam, etc. as nonsense too.
rendermaster : yes, theo - a troll
rev_sara_the_demon_child : puts in reason't porno
jaydmoore : I've used that abbreviation in some of the xian rooms, and they immediately jump my ass about it... "funny" I said "that's an abbreviation made by christians themselves"
seraphina22 : I believe that there is something out there, but we haven't figured it out yet.
gremlin_net : brngreenback: low IQ and comfort with lying.
rendermaster : yes, jay
rendermaster : they aren’t very bright
jaydmoore : they say it's degrading
hotvegasman : sara i can tie a cherry stem in a knot with my tounge imagine how long you would remember me
rev_sara_the_demon_child : I should be in pornos really, I do this odd thing with my tongue
brngreenback : heh
rendermaster : that the greek letter “chi†or “x†has stood for ‘christ’ for about 2000 years seems to have escaped most xians
indondasani : "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.
johntheantibaptist : wish i could help somer
polspindoctor : I would prefer that the Baptist or Catholic call themselves Christians instead of identifying themselfs with some religious dogma.
rev_sara_the_demon_child : hot I can undo a starburst wrapper with my tongue
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:11:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
kill_every_southerner : Her family disapproved of the marriage and yesterday invited the couple to visit their home. Mighendra was taken to a separate room and overpowered by her father, Devendra Tyagi, and her two brothers, who cut off his penis with a knife. :)
rendermaster : pols, what difference does it make?
jfirebird1 : so sara are u trimmed
seraphina22 : Now..having said that..I have also found that worshipping God in whatever capacity I choose to do it.makes my life more fulfilling. Now, right or wrong, truth or false..makes no difference to me.
indondasani : this hasn't changed, polspin. Jesus commands christians to teach that, just as everything else he said!
rev_sara_the_demon_child : jfire: I shave some parts
reason_over_faith : indon is SUCH a fundie
jfirebird1 : god damn hot what women
gremlin_net : Render: history is a buzzword to christians. As in 'history proves christ existed!!!!!1'
tormented_soul333 : ok..heres how you can tell guys arent always that bright.... girls go pee..and wipe pee off with toilet paper..and unless you make sure your wife..girlfriend..etc washes..you are licking pee if you go down on her... does that turn you on ? :))
rendermaster : where is it in the xian new testament that says that one should or shouldn’t identify thmselves by denomination?
polspindoctor : I believe it makes a lot of difference Render.
seraphina22 : The way I look at it is t his..If it's real..then my reward will be great. If it's not..then what have I lost? I've lead a virtuos , fulfilling life.
rendermaster : no, pols, it’s irrelevant
rendermaster : since it’s your opiino
rendermaster : and ha son basis in scripture
indondasani : blinks at reason.
hotvegasman : sara use wax
polspindoctor : I dont believe it is irrelevant.
reason_over_faith : hehe
reason_over_faith : pols, why is that?
rev_sara_the_demon_child : hot no way, I use wax on my eyebrows only
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:12:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
indondasani : fundies=/=true christians.
rendermaster : it is, pols, when it’s your opinion and you are trying to claim that it’s a fact
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : kisses her adorable fundie
brngreenback : polspindoctor, do you just have to tell everyone "hey guess what, I'm a nondenominational christian. See my card? Here, take one with you", or are there actual rules you live by?
indondasani : is far closer to true christianity than any fundie will ever be.
reason_over_faith : Is sara a Unabrow?
happybunnie_42503 : jesus is bullshit there is no higher power and if there is wut the fuck is it doing for us life sucks and that is not a gift
rendermaster : there isn’t anything in the xian new testament which would lead one to belive one way or the other about denominiations
gremlin_net : 'true christian' is nonsequitur.
gremlin_net : a*
rev_sara_the_demon_child : reason: I just said I wax my eyebrows you 'tard
polspindoctor : We dont live by rules, thats not Christianity.
reason_over_faith : no such thing as a true xian.
rendermaster : of course it is, pols
rendermaster : what a hypocrite
reason_over_faith : sara, I know, thus why I asked.
seraphina22 : Oh well
waskybarrel : you're going to be sore
indondasani : gremlin; no, a true christian is one who adheres to the teachings of the person they worship.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:13:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
theophrenie : « It is not a virtue to believe in superstitous , invisible spirits floating around in the air punishing and rewarding humans
reason_over_faith : You would have one brow if you did not wax?
rendermaster : xians don’t live by the rules set out in the xian new testament and even some opf the hebrew scripture, like the ten com,mandmnets?
tormented_soul333 : chugger..if life gives you lemons..make lemonade..get over it
seraphina22 : I think I like being mercilessly persecuted was better than being ignored.
rendermaster : what planet do yo ulive on, pols?
rev_sara_the_demon_child : reason: no, I just use it to make them more defined
indondasani : it's agreed upon by any christian who wants to call other christians nonchristian because they violate the teachings of jesus.
happybunnie_42503 : does anyone care wut i have to say think about wut has ur so called god done for u ??
reason_over_faith : sara, for?
brngreenback : polspindoctor, okay. So, you can just throw all that "turn the other cheek" stuff some denominations live by right out the window, right?
gremlin_net : Render: actually, they don't live by those rules. They just preach them.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Hello, people, pols is a troll. There's no point in arguing with him.
rendermaster : I’ve yet to meet a xian that doesn’tattempt to live their lives by the lessons or rules found in th escripture
waskybarrel : wow
rev_sara_the_demon_child : I use the wax to shape them....goddamn you're a moron
enki_in_the_abzu : lol grem....how true
rendermaster : or claim that they are attempting to do so
hotvegasman : lmfao
rev_sara_the_demon_child : you don't even know what eyebrow wax is for
reason_over_faith : brn, that turn the other cheek crap is not about being altruistic and non violent. It is an insult
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:14:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
rendermaster : yes, kitty, but sometimes it’s a good way to blow off steam :)
reason_over_faith : kitty, what else is there to do?
polspindoctor : Judiaism was a religion of rules and laws. Christianity is not a belief based on law and rules.
indondasani : kitty; I want to definitely prove that polspin isn't a christian.
rendermaster : and that is total bullshit, pols
rev_sara_the_demon_child : and if you come over here I'll use my wx strips to gently rip the hair from your asscrack
jaydmoore : gremlin: yeah, I like how the Christian philosophy has made loopholes for itself.. as in, "it doesn't matter if you still murder people, so long as you have ATTEMPTED to keep the faith by accepting jesus into your heart"
tormented_soul333 : you have a choice,...you can either sit and whine about what you dont have..or get off your ass and do something with your life... but dont blame it on God (s) or the lack thereof
indondasani : Christianity is a belief based on the commandments of Jesus.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ I don't know, go blow up a building or something. Do something constructive.
indondasani : which you ignore, polspin.
reason_over_faith : sara, I thought it was to keep you from looking like a Cyclops.
rendermaster : you need to work on that one, pols
rev_sara_the_demon_child : reason: nooooooo
brngreenback : reason, really? huh. Always heard it just as a figure of speach.
polspindoctor : Jesus came to write the law on our hearts and not in our minds.
indondasani : which, of course, means you aren't saved.
rendermaster : that claim makes you sound like an idiot
brngreenback : Guess you're right, though, thinking about romans.
reason_over_faith : Really brn
gremlin_net : Christian apologetics: 'Live by the bible or burn in hell! Live by the bible or burn in hell! Live by--whaddaya mean "move on and clear the dust off my feat"?'
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:15:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
rev_sara_the_demon_child : even if I go a year without waxing my brows they still look normal
indondasani : for Jesus taught that those who do not follow his teachings are NOT christians.
gremlin_net : feet*
rendermaster : really, pols? so why does one need the xian new teatament if it’s all written on the heart anyway?
indondasani : that Jesus will say to them, "Depart from me, I never knew you!"
hotvegasman : polspin bull paul came to make you a pagan
reason_over_faith : sara, yes they look normal when they meet in the middle
rev_sara_the_demon_child : I jus tlike them to be pointy sometimes
reason_over_faith : brb
rendermaster : so xians hsould toss out the xian new testamnet, since the law is now written on the heart
rendermaster : and no need for the scrpiture
indondasani : polspin; did JESUS say that he came to do that?
rendermaster : what a wonderful idea, pols
rendermaster : you should tell all xians to do that
polspindoctor : It can be helpful, but my belief is not based on the Bible. I certainly dont worship the Bible.
rev_sara_the_demon_child : reason: why are you so obsessed with monobrows??
rendermaster : lol
indondasani : or are you believing the words of the APOSTLES over those of your savior?
brngreenback : polspindoctor, so what seperates you from, say, satanists, who also have a religion based on not following rules?
rendermaster : pols, you sure do
rev_sara_the_demon_child : must have one, poor child
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:16:35 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
brngreenback : polspindoctor, is it just the name you're citing as your religous leader, or is there more to it?
happybunnie_42503 : wut this is all bullshit god is shit and so is the bible they r made up stories to give us fake hope that everything is for a reason there is no reson to life we live suffer and die that is it face there is no one out there for u or me we r alone and we will die and when we die it is over that is it dam u all follow this bible shit and waste ur sundays in church when all they feed u is bullshit
gremlin_net : brngreenback: satanists dress a little better?
rev_sara_the_demon_child : damnit I hate it when the ads take up half the goddamn chat screen
indondasani : polspin; you claim your belief is based on the teachings of Jesus. You don't follow the teachings of Jesus. Ergo, you are a false christian.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:17:15 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
LOG OPEN Fri, 30 May 2003 12:17:17 gremlin_net, limb0
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:17:18 gremlin_net, limb0
rev_sara_the_demon_child : huh?
reason_over_faith : because your brows are furrowing...
rendermaster : how is it that xians have claimed that the law of the hebrew scripture is no longer relevant since jesus fulfilled it, yet the ten commandmets, which are part of mosaic law, are taught as not only rules but LAWS that all xians should live by?
brngreenback : heh
seraphina22 : You know, I think Satanists get a bad rap sometimes.
polspindoctor : This is a matter that most baby Christians have a problem with, trying to not sin and such.
rendermaster : that is part of the complete hypocrisy of xianitry
rendermaster : “the law is fulfilled, exc ept the law we wish to keep:â€
rev_sara_the_demon_child : reason I have no monobrow, never have, never will. I have just plain normal eyebrows.
gremlin_net : Render: it's even better than that. It's still a sin to be gay, but the neighbouring sin of cutting your hair is a nonissue now....
rendermaster : if the law was fulfilled, the ten commandments would no longe rbe necessary at all
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:18:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
glennasalmon : Does anyone know where I can find a dark guy?
rev_sara_the_demon_child : Every woman waxes her eyebrows, it's like putting on make up
rendermaster : obviously the law WASN’T fulfilled
seraphina22 : I mean....Satanism is based on the idea that you don't want to spend eternity in Heaven worshipping God. The whole "It's better to rein in Hell than serve in Heaven" philosophy.
tormented_soul333 : lil chugger: i bet you are a child who was raised basically getting whatever he/she wanted from mommy and daddy...and so now in the REAL WORLD when you dont get your way and you wake up and actually realize that life is what you make of it you stamp your feet and scream why me...either way....quit whining.. and GRWO UP
rendermaster : and xians still doattepmt to adhere to part of the law
tormented_soul333 : GROW*
rendermaster : which makes most xians rather hypocritical
indondasani : "I came not to abolish the law, but to get rid of it so that you don't have to listen to me."
polspindoctor : You shouldnt have to think about the 10 commandments it should be written on your heart and not in your head.
seraphina22 : I'm not sure how that evolved into spreading evil in the world.
gremlin_net : Render: the bible itself shows that the law wasn't fulfilled. Christ came to enforce the law, not to repeal it.
rendermaster : but it is written about
rendermaster : on walls, pols
rendermaster : in books
rendermaster : in churches
rendermaster : all over
indondasani : polspin; where did Jesus teach that?
rendermaster : so what is yourpoint?
rev_sara_the_demon_child : and even if I *did* have amonobrow, at least I'd do somehting about it instead of letting it grow wild like guys do
kill_every_southerner : 1) find a guy. 2) put him into a room 3) turn out the lights 4) congratulations, you have a dark guy
reason_over_faith : sara you know I am teasing you right?
rendermaster : and the ten commandmetns are mosaic law
rendermaster : tha twhich jesus fulfilled, suipposedly
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:19:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
rendermaster : so how does it work both ways?
reason_over_faith : LOL
rendermaster : either the law is fulfilled or it isn’t
tormented_soul333 : as my english teacher used to say.... " Whiners are weiners!"
polspindoctor : Quit playing games Indon.
seraphina22 : Can anyone actually read what I'm saying, just out of curiousity?
reason_over_faith : has only 2 brows.
rendermaster : either it’s all necesary or none of it it
reason_over_faith : so far.
rendermaster : sure, seraphina
reason_over_faith : has evilbrow actually.
rendermaster : you were right - you were a better troll as the fundie :)
jfirebird1 : yeah seraphina
reason_over_faith : My borws come up to an arch.
theophrenie : « All laws are based on the pragmatic experiences of the humans that observed human behaviors and the consequences. It is a disservice to give the credit to mysticism, when it is human wisdom that codified the laws.
reason_over_faith : *brows.
jfirebird1 : i see u
rev_sara_the_demon_child : I must shower now. do you have any comments about me going to take a shower reason? I'm sure you have a whole mess of 'em
gremlin_net : Heh. That's where Jesus said the ten commandments still applied, named about half of them, got one wrong, and gave up.
rendermaster : bye, sara
indondasani : polspin; the only game I'm playing is, "Are you a True Christian(TM)?", and you're losing.
brngreenback : seraphina, satanism actually has nothing to do with satan itself. It's basically a western equivelant to taoism, less steeped in philosophy and more in mysticism.
polspindoctor : None of it is necessary Render. The Holy Spirit writes these laws on our hearts now.
rendermaster : lol indon
reason_over_faith : sara, nope. Surfs up!!
hotvegasman : gives everyone a big hug
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:20:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
rev_sara_the_demon_child : awww hot :X
brngreenback : Based on letting people do what they feel like doing, indulging themselves.
hotvegasman : sara use a web cam
tormented_soul333 :
reason_over_faith : LOL
rev_sara_the_demon_child : be back in half an hour
brngreenback : 'course, I don't subscribe to it myself.
kill_every_southerner : Despite its ardent efforts, however, the South will never be able to wash its hands clean of the atrocities that took place routinely throughout its lands. In reality, the South's history is one of barbarous cruelty. Its long heritage is nasty, brutish and repellent, and its crimes against humanity cannot be pinned on some fringe minority.
rendermaster : well, pols, why does every xian claim that they are essential to learn and to follow?
reason_over_faith : sara is a trip.
indondasani : so far you got the Great Commission wrong, refused or was unable to speak of Jesus' teachings, and cited things you can't demonstrate Jesus actually said.
rev_sara_the_demon_child : hot if you wanna see a fat ugly teenager, I'd be happy to use a webcam
seraphina22 : Well I'm certainly no expert in it.
hotvegasman : half hour man nore then a shower
rendermaster : and pols, it doesn’t matter where they are written- the point is that they are still law and still followed
polspindoctor : Every Christian doesnt claim that, I certainly dont.
rendermaster : they could be rwritten on y9our backside
deahca2 : <
rendermaster : what difference does it make?
brngreenback : seraphina, heh, I just have too much time on my hands.
seraphina22 : But I can't say it enough..Read the book "I, Lucifer" by Glen Duncan
tormented_soul333 : hands the room a beverage of choice
rendermaster : the poin t is whether or not its taught
enki_in_the_abzu : wb deah
reason_over_faith : agn0 yuo bastard!!!
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:21:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deahca2 : ty Enki
rendermaster : not where it resides
reason_over_faith : brb
agn0stic_and_atheist : è reason_over_faith ?
glennasalmon : any guys with a cam?
rendermaster : you don’t, pols?
gremlin_net : trollspindoctor: you're not a christian. What you don't do is immaterial.
rendermaster : so murder is okay, right?
rendermaster : wonderful
deahca2 : <
rendermaster : I suppose you are an adulterer, too
rendermaster : rofl
agn0stic_and_atheist : è hugs the room
rendermaster : pols, tha tis the biggest crock you’ve spewed yet
agn0stic_and_atheist : è [long arms]
indondasani : polspin; when does Jesus say that?
izzabeaux : heeey ppl...
rendermaster : you are getting flight in your old age
hotvegasman : render i am
gremlin_net : Render: we know trollspindoctor is okay with false witness....
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:22:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
indondasani : ...or are you just making up extras to add to christianity?
deahca2 : nonsense, pols. There are the societal laws, which , when broken carry heavy consequences
polspindoctor : Im not allowed to preach in here, Indon. LOL
jaydmoore : polspin: actually, Jesus said that you must abide the laws of the land
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Or destructive. Either way.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ happybunnie_42503, and you're a disgrace to teens everywhere. *click*
reason_over_faith : agn0, i bet. You fallicious octopod you!! :P
indondasani : polspin; apparently, you aren't able to prove that you know Jesus' teachings, either.
hotvegasman : kitty i lmfao
jaydmoore : polspin: which also makes Jesus a sinner
rendermaster : considering that the law is from God, either written on a piece of paper or “on the heart†I don’t see the relevance of their geography being relevant
agn0stic_and_atheist : è reason_over_faith - 'fellacious' is the word you're looking for - lol
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:23:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
reason_over_faith : typo.
reason_over_faith : bastard!!
rendermaster : the bottom line is still the same: the law, wherever you find it, is still law given to man by God
agn0stic_and_atheist : è lol
polspindoctor : It makes all the difference, Render, because we dont obey the law on our own.
gremlin_net : Heh. Felatious would be...different.
reason_over_faith : Oh you will pay now agn0!!
agn0stic_and_atheist : è reason_over_faith - you know I love you.
reason_over_faith : anymore vapid diatribe for me agn0?
rendermaster : and that would be another fallacy, pols
TryToMateMe : isn't it fallacious?
reason_over_faith : I know agn0. How can you not?
rendermaster : who do you obey it with?
agn0stic_and_atheist : è reason_over_faith - I'm never 'vapid' I hope.
deahca2 : that's got to be the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
reason_over_faith : not so far.
rendermaster : lol
indondasani : polspin; I'll ask again, even though I know you'll fail to answer: What does Jesus have to say about making oaths?
rendermaster : just wait, deah
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:24:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
polspindoctor : I can do all things through him that gives me strength.
agn0stic_and_atheist : è reason_over_faith - that's not my style.
reason_over_faith : but that woman you posted was.
rendermaster : pols, so whta?
deahca2 : If you lived in a society on a small island , isolated that HAD no laws, you would be immoral ?
deahca2 : Well that sure says something about your character
rendermaster : how is where God’s law is written make any difference in terms of having to follow it?
agn0stic_and_atheist : è reason_over_faith - I thought it was ok, not the way I would put it, but I know you aren't convinced by my words.
enki_in_the_abzu : so when dahmer was eating all those people, and he had the word of god written on his heart, then god must have been with him for supper, eh pols?
reason_over_faith : agn0, you spelled it wrong btw.
polspindoctor : People who try and be holy on their own are walking in the flesh and not in the spirit.
reason_over_faith : I did not.
seraphina22 : Maybe because you want to be certain it is God's law.
rendermaster : pols, you aren’ tholy
gremlin_net : No one's immoral. Everyone follows his own code. Even if that code has to be changed every once in a while.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:25:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
agn0stic_and_atheist : è reason_over_faith - I did?
rendermaster : that’s wonderful claim pols
deahca2 : and the Lord MADE us flesh. sheesh, think
rendermaster : since when is any man, “holy�
reason_over_faith : yes you did.
rendermaster : lol
reason_over_faith : I made a typo earlier.
agn0stic_and_atheist : è reason_over_faith - that was how I spelt it.
rendermaster : if man could be holy, then jesus wouldn’t be necessary, according to xianity
deahca2 : As far as I know, we are BOTH physical AND spiritual ( our souls)
polspindoctor : We are Holy, Reason, because our sins are forgiven.
reason_over_faith : so that is ANOTHER brownie point you lost agn0.
rendermaster : pols, man isn’t holy by accepting jesus
rendermaster : rofl
gremlin_net : Render: which begs the question of why the pope is holy.
reason_over_faith : But what can one expect from an agnostic atheist, hehe
rendermaster : you need to stick with xianity, pols
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:26:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deahca2 : <,wonders who it is that has no soul and wanders the earth as JUST physical
indondasani : polspin; when does JESUS say that your sins are forgiven?
agn0stic_and_atheist : è reason_over_faith - I'm quite happy for you to be captain of the spelling club, I know you'd like that - lol
reason_over_faith : pols, what?
rendermaster : no man is holy or can be holy, hence the need to accept jesus
reason_over_faith : LOL
reason_over_faith : bastard!!
polspindoctor : The assumptions you are making Render are those of a baby Christian who tries to do it all on their own.
rendermaster : if man can be holy, then why would jesus be necessary?
reason_over_faith : aa!
a_atheist : WOO HOO!
reason_over_faith : brb
rendermaster : no, pols, I’m not assuming anyhting
agn0stic_and_atheist : è [damn can I be sarcastic]
dove_1966 : Hi Babe
rendermaster : not true - I’m now assuming you know nothing about xianity
hotvegasman : somer waska wants to know when you move to germany will you have internet there
deahca2 : and YOUR assumptions are better, pols? I don't think so. LOL
hotvegasman : no shit
reason_over_faith : Fucking closet homosexual brit!!
indondasani : polspin; are "baby christians" the ones who actually listen to what Jesus says?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:27:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hotvegasman : it was a joke
reason_over_faith : brb
rendermaster : lol
polspindoctor : Because Jesus intercedes with God for our sin, he already paid the price for our past, present and future sins.
indondasani : so to become a _mature_ christian, you ignore jesus!
rendermaster : that doesn’t make man holy, pols
rendermaster : man is a sinner, from birth to death
rendermaster : that is what xiainty teaches
deahca2 : <
rendermaster : c an’t even wash it off
agn0stic_and_atheist : è reason_over_faith - ok, you don't like gays, you don't like Brits, and you don't like agnostic-atheists, I'm a Geordie too - how do you feel about them?
seraphina22 : You know what always troubled me most about Jesus being God's Son?
a_atheist : Jbriebird!
rendermaster : so, pols, you are creating your own denominatoin of xianity
indondasani : Jesus says that none is righteous, save God. Jesus also says to teach everything he said.
rendermaster : how wonderful!
hotvegasman : somer man spice it up go with her in the woods
a_atheist : firebird that is
deahca2 : what would that be, sera?
polspindoctor : Im certainly not a sinner, Render.
waskybarrel : a_atheist didn't get thrown over-board?...welcome back aa...let the mud fly
indondasani : so why aren't you teaching that none is righteous?
seraphina22 : The fact that when he was on the cross he said "My God, My God...why hast Thou forsaken me?"
rendermaster : lol
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:28:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
a_atheist : fuck off wask
seraphina22 : I've never understood that.
indondasani : ok, polspin is a heretic and false christian.
brngreenback : indon, don't you remember Josh 412:31415926, "Silly theist, Salvation is for kids"
rendermaster : yes, pols, of course you aren’t :)
deahca2 : You're NOT a sinner? wow. Does the sin of "pride" ring a bell?
indondasani : lol baron.
seraphina22 : I've had alot of theologists try to explain it, but nothing that has ever satisfied me.
deadman_932 : michaeltherighthandofgod: God protects his servents!
reason_over_faith : k
polspindoctor : Im a saint.
a_atheist : reason, your done with your pregent sister?
reason_over_faith : laughs at pols
deadman_932 : you're a fucking liar, polspin
theophrenie : « it's a very beautiful metaphore to say the the 'laws of God are written on the hearts of men", but what that means is that good hearted people have empathy and compasion, a sense of fairness, caring, and charity, but that is not a god, that is human nature too.
deahca2 : sera, that and when Jesus prayed to the Lord and taught others to? And when the "voice of the Lord" was hear OVER Jesus?
indondasani : Dogma 12:13, "And even a child can figure out that polspin's going to Hell."
rendermaster : seraphina, it’s not a difficult thing to fathom: judaism teaches that all mankind are God’s “children†all “sons and daughters†of God, none any more or less god’s “child†than any other
jaydmoore : here's something that I see thrown around in here a lot, and I think that it may fit with this discussion right now.... causal principle: this last principle (somewhat akin to the principle of sufficient reason) usually says that what causes something to be of a certain sort must itself be of that sort.
polspindoctor : My flesh still sins but my spirit is clean.
reason_over_faith : aa, pregnant you gizz guzzling seaman.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:29:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
a_atheist : lol
a_atheist : gargles
jaydmoore : meaning: if god creates people in reality, he must also exist in reality
reason_over_faith : and she is 6000 miles away.
reason_over_faith : not far enough!
deadman_932 : you gloated over the death of the SON the 15 year old SON of your wife's lawyer
gremlin_net : seraphina22 has become an atheistic troll now?
jaydmoore : meaning if you claim god, you should be able to provide evidence for him
e_dehghan : hi everybody
deadman_932 : you claimed that you thought god killed this kid to revenge YOU
deahca2 : lack of belief in Christianity does not make anyone an atheist.
agn0stic_and_atheist : è hi e_dehghan
indondasani : dead; well, that's in keeping with polspin being a false christian.
seraphina22 : Exactly. There's no question that Jesus is the Son of God. I'm the daughter of God. But if he was fulfilling a prophecy..dying for our sins..why did he feel like God was forsaking him?
jaydmoore : and a failure to do so is concession of ignorance
e_dehghan : i'm a satanist
hotvegasman : yep
reason_over_faith : what is a true xian?
rendermaster : pols, what sin treater do you buy at the supermarket? Sin and dry? “Mr. Crucifix�
deadman_932 : michaeltherighthandofgod: I said to the man,"I hope you have to feel the same thing I have because of the restricted visitation and your manipulations." Now he does feel that loss.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:30:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
polspindoctor : Do you truly understand Christianity Indon? Or are you only aware of the Dogma certain churchs teach?
indondasani : reason; presumably, someone who actually listens to what Jesus says in the bible.
e_dehghan : what is a SIN?
e_dehghan : i can't see a sin in this world
rendermaster : yes, pols, we all understand xianity; it’s a hodgepodge of complete idiocy that not even xians can agree upon
reason_over_faith : listens does not make them xian indon. they have to walk the walk too.
deadman_932 : polspin, you're both a liar and a sinner c
reason_over_faith : not jsut talk the talk
e_dehghan : creation is the biggest sin
indondasani : reason; ah, good point.
deadman_932 : and you are one SICK motherfucker
Fastillion : The Jews are slaves to the pentagon. Look how the Jews crawl before their master to make the roadplan to peace.
indondasani : they have to _follow_ what Jesus says.
irrefragabilis : is away (away)
carmorg2000 : no preaching? okay... but, www.carm.org/atheism.htm really tackles atheism well, exposing its weakness and illogic.
reason_over_faith : you bet indon.
reason_over_faith : brb
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:31:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
theophrenie : « now seraphin, you are analyzing, not just believing unquestioningly, as dogmatists are bent on doing.
e_dehghan : religion is the worst type of facism
jaydmoore : fastillion: it's a sham
e_dehghan : i hate religion
carmorg2000 : atheism is the worst kind of ignorance
jaydmoore : this "roadplan to peace" will eventually give more land to the people of Israel
Fastillion : sham or not, the Palestinian state is coming
polspindoctor : These are the basics of the Christian walk Indon, and Reason. You never learned them?
e_dehghan : religion is the state of dictating your ideas
seraphina22 : And another thing that has always troubled me...All this talk about what a huge sacrfice God made..sending His only son and all that. Why did He have to do it to start with? I mean..He's God. He could just say.."Ok..your sins are forgiven and you're going to Heaven because I'm God and I say so."
rendermaster : did someone forget to flush the toilet after a football team used it after eating mexican food? oh, no - the stench is just the odiferous scent of fastillion, he who is so jealous and envioius of jews, I’m going to send him to the ignoratoriu, where he can whine about us to my teacher and mentor, Rabbi Ignorowitz
e_dehghan : it stops people from thinking
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:32:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
johntheantibaptist : noriaga is in prison jfire
theophrenie : « carmorg, you are projecting you ignorance on atheism. Why?
indondasani : polspin; we aren't christian. of course, neither are you.
carmorg2000 : www.carm.org/atheism.htm exposes the weaknesses of atheism...
jaydmoore : LOL @ rabbi ignorowitz
carmorg2000 : www.carm.org/atheism.htm exposes the weaknesses of atheism...
Fastillion : Weeeeerrrrrrrr! goes my fishing reel as I hook rendermaster like the big fish that he is. LOL :))
a_atheist : weakness?
e_dehghan : good point seraphin
a_atheist : cool
polspindoctor : I agree that Religion and Dogma are not condusive to thought. I practice neither.
indondasani : blinks.
gremlin_net : seraphina22 had a point? I'll have to look for that....
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:33:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
a_atheist : falsh in th epan fundy
deahca2 : I know Sera, the Christian god disgusts me. Mean and insane
e_dehghan : humanity can be the only thing that worths thinking about
seraphina22 : Well I wouldn't go that far. It just doesn't make sense.
rendermaster : lol - I find it hilarious when they xians have to come around and advertise websites to “combat’ atheism, since they obviously can’t debate it themselves
indondasani : polspin; you don't practice Jesus, period.
deadman_932 : seraphina: what's odd is if you assume jesus to be god in the flesh...so that god sends god to earth to be killed , fully knowing that he would be killed...to "save" mankind from sin that god allowed to occur
hotvegasman : kitty
reason_over_faith : camorg, I jsut icked ONE thing out and it was wrong: When I read statements like this I can't help but wonder which religion they are referring to. It can't be Christianity because the Bible teaches us to love God and love our fellow man. It teaches that the fear of the Lord is wisdom, that truthfulness is a way of life, and that eyewitness accounts of the miraculous is one of the evidences for its validity. Says who? you state that yet you do nto prove it. Nor do you support your claims on how ALL atheists act and react
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : murrs
polspindoctor : Have you read the Bible , Indon?
dove_1966 : says hi to her boyfriend again
augustacase1 : carmorg..That site does nothing of the kind. It actually looks fairly good. Where on that site does it "expose the weakness of atheism?"
e_dehghan : hey,guys
indondasani : polspin; not front to back.
gremlin_net : Render: it's funnier when they cite spoofsites as evidence.
deahca2 : I go further. ANY god that would demand a human sacrifice is evil, IMO< and THEN to make the sacrifice "his own kid"? That's disgusting
reason_over_faith : Also camorg, ethics aer subjective. Waht is ethical for one is not for another.
rendermaster : wonders whether or not adolph and eva are going to have children down under; I can just picture it now: little nazis with a swastika on their diapers
reason_over_faith : Your site sucks so far cam.
e_dehghan : let's start with the beginning
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:34:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
indondasani : the fact that I am not christian does not change the fact that you are not, either.
reason_over_faith : you all need to see this shit.
theophrenie : « I found a website to explain things I don't understand, therefore, I are a teecher!
polspindoctor : Then how can you make such a statement, maybe most so called Christian denominations have it mostly wrong.
rendermaster : lol theo
e_dehghan : i mean,with the question about the existence of god
gremlin_net : AgingYoung cited as article from http://TheOnion.com as evidence backing one of his bullshit assertions.
rendermaster : yes, pols, and maybe you are complete wrong
gremlin_net : an*
dove_1966 : Hi render
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : notes that she isn't using YahELite
rendermaster : hi, dove :)
deahca2 : The human sacrifice to was to satisfy the Christians god who was in a snit fit and HAD to have a human sacrifice. How much more disgusting can you get?
indondasani : polspin; It's not a matter of denomination so much as of the individual.
deadman_932 : scary concept, deah
augustacase1 : The site defines atheism well. It admits atheists can be moral. It answers a few strawman arguments, but it's not that bad. I've seen worse. LOL
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:35:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
indondasani : and, as an individual, you fail to follow Jesus' teachings, and are not saved.
polspindoctor : Thats my whole point Indon.
e_dehghan : any agreements,or arguments?
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : What site?
deahca2 : That and the Christian belief in the "camps of hell." the "fire and torture for eternit". Worse that effin Hitler. At least HE had the grace to stop when the humans died.
comma2be : For God So Loved The World That He Gave His Only Begotten Son That Whosoever Believes in Him Shall Not Perish But Have Ever Lasting Life
rendermaster : how does one “prove†atheism to be wrong in any other way than having to provide evidence of a god?
deadman_932 : and if the point is about the individual, polspin fails on multiple points
e_dehghan : I hate your so-called god comma
jaydmoore : comma: why, if you haven't gone and recited the most well known verse in the entire Bible!!
religionfree_1 : idiot font fuck *ignore*
jaydmoore : good for you
rendermaster : comma, if I wished to listen to worthless babbling testimony, I’d turn on the 700 Club, since they do it better than you and they do it to MUSIC
jaydmoore : I think you just converted me
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:36:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
jaydmoore : LOL
deahca2 : That's the insane murderous Christian god, comma
theophrenie : « wow comma, we have never heard of that before? what is that?
e_dehghan : :))
indondasani : why did comma not use any in his statement?
polspindoctor : Dont look to a church for your relationship with God. Its a personal relationship, your church cant help with that.
reason_over_faith : render, all of you, read this morons site!! http://www.carm.org/atheism.htm
comma2be : For When I am weak I am Strong
e_dehghan : thanx render...
Fastillion : rendermaster likes the 700 Club; they are against the Mideast peace plan, like that shit-eater render is
augustacase1 : Where is the exposing of atheism as illogical? I don't see anything of the kind. It answers a few atheist arguments, badly, but I don't see where it "exposes the weak logic of atheism." heh
rendermaster : lolol
e_dehghan : self deciet
rendermaster : for when you are an idiot, you are a dimwit
hunter_the_crazychick : is back
hunter_the_crazychick : frowns.
jaydmoore : LOL @ shit-eater
e_dehghan : how can you be strong when you're weak
rendermaster : comma, the problem isn’t with jesus
deahca2 : I have reservations about the "mid east " ( actually Israel) peace plan. I have serious doubts that it will work.
rendermaster : the problem is with many xians
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:37:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
indondasani : polspin; other christians can help teach you christianity.
comma2be : Lord Jesus I Lift Your Name ON High
rendermaster : I see you don’t quite understand that
theophrenie : « Anyone know how to block big font in YahELite?
reason_over_faith : deah, it wil not.
reason_over_faith : they will fight again.
e_dehghan : the problem is with xianity itself
e_dehghan : and the jesus
reason_over_faith : Sharon is one sadistic fuck
rendermaster : and we all know that preaching in a chat room is going to make atheists convert in a second
deahca2 : I know, reason, even worse than before, I think.
e_dehghan : and the god
rendermaster : lol
polspindoctor : You are strong when you are weak because that is when God can help you.
jaydmoore : theophrenie: it shoudl be in the options
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : Goddamn fucking ads. *screams*
reason_over_faith : yep
indondasani : of course, any group large enough to bring social dynamics into the equasion Jesus wouldn't have approved of, but...
comma2be : The Mountains will melt like wax when he return's
e_dehghan : bullshit
seraphina22 : There's something there though..in the Old Testament. I can't quite put my finger on it..but something about that is real.
e_dehghan : god can not help you
reason_over_faith : watch your fucking language kitty, FUCK!!
jaydmoore : shit.. I'm gonna be late for work
e_dehghan : god can hate you
indondasani : polspin; why do you preach a religion that is not christianity?
polspindoctor : You are weak when you are strong because you are relying on yourself and not on God.
jaydmoore : good day everyone
rendermaster : comma, blow it out of your ass
e_dehghan : you yourself can help you
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:38:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deahca2 : With the making of a PLO country, the importing of weapons that goes on now , and is monitored and stopped will not be happening anymore
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : Fuck you reason I won't watch my goddamn language unless I fucking feel like it.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : grumbles
deahca2 : Then Israel will HAVE to declare war and bomb them
comma2be : I love every one of you
reason_over_faith : lol
augustacase1 : If everything needs a creator, then who or what created God? This question is logically problematic. If everything needs a creator, than no matter what exists, it must have been created. <----WHAT??? LOL Talk about sidestepping! LOL
e_dehghan : i hate you comma
rendermaster : well, deah, the majority of weapons thast the palestinians have came from israel to begin with
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : gives reason the finger
indondasani : "Where the hell'd you learn that fucking language?" -my father's fond of saying that.
polspindoctor : You really dont seem to know much about Christianity, Indon.
deadman_932 : then blow me, comma
hotvegasman : kitty put on your mic and talk dirty reason will love it
reason_over_faith : humps kitty's face.
reason_over_faith : brb
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : lol vegas I have music on :P I'm not going on voice
indondasani : polspin; christianity is the teachings of Jesus.
deahca2 : <
rendermaster : it was israle who provided the weaponry to the palestinian authority so they could attempt to govern and police themselves
indondasani : I've asked you what some of those teachings were.
indondasani : you never answered.
polspindoctor : Its a little more than book knowledge, Indon.
deahca2 : HUGE amount of weapons, and darn deadly one, right down to rocket launchers.
e_dehghan : hate hate hate
comma2be : I Love You
brngreenback : returns
comma2be : Jesus
dove_1966 : hi hot
indondasani : polspin; ah, so you're making things up and adding to christianity.
deahca2 : comma, don't love me. Go love someone else
deadman_932 : hi jenn
deahca2 : <
comma2be : I love all of God's Sheep
e_dehghan : i have the same idea
rendermaster : if you don’t wish to listen to hatred, put fastillion and the rest of us his nazi buddies, whose idea of a good time is to have a circle jerk in front of a huge poster of adolf hilter, on ignore
polspindoctor : Christains who only have head knowledge of Jesus/Gods teachings will never walk with God.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:40:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
e_dehghan : I'm not a sheep
e_dehghan : I'm a wolf
reason_over_faith : head knowledge?
deahca2 : baaaa, baaa. DAMMIT, now I crave lamb chops again. I NEVER think of Jesus without associating him with mint sauce
hotvegasman : dove
reason_over_faith : zed!!
rendermaster : lol deah
seraphina22 : What is a sheep? Deaf, and dumb and blind and born to follow.
e_dehghan : I kill sheep,cause i hate them
reason_over_faith : zed, read this site!! http://www.carm.org/atheism.htm
rendermaster : rushes to poo on zed before anyone else gets the chance
comma2be : Satan Made You A Wolf
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : Fastillion is here?
zedechiah_the_messiah : aw man Reason, CARM is the worst
e_dehghan : I'm Satan
reason_over_faith : dunno.
comma2be : Jesus's Children are Sheep
deadman_932 : as opposed to polspin who imagines he walks with god while claiming that god killed a kid for him
deahca2 : commma, did you forget your meds this morning?
rendermaster : well, he was here, kitty, but no longer
e_dehghan : I'm God
indondasani : fast's here.
rendermaster : at lesat not on my screen
e_dehghan : everything is within me
reason_over_faith : I know zed, I erad the first 2 articles and laughed.
comma2be : Don't Blaspheme
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : grumbles are YahELite's unworkingness
e_dehghan : not a supernature
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:41:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : are=at
augustacase1 : I make a claim that everything needs a creator..okay..You ask me, if everything needs a creator, then who created the creator, and I tell you the question is invalid because it can't be answered. LOL What absolute horse shit. A comlete bafoon wrote. heh
reason_over_faith : heh kitty.
polspindoctor : There are several examples of God taking vengence for his servants, Deadman.
deadman_932 : as opposed to polspin who imagines he walks with god while claiming that god killed a kid for him
reason_over_faith : I know august.
e_dehghan : god is a kind of self deciet in answer of your unsolvable problems
deadman_932 : you're not elijah, micheal/polspin
rendermaster : why would a god require vengeance?
seraphina22 : Could we knock the font size down a notch or two guys?
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Yay!
madmancazzy : NO
e_dehghan : ye seraphina
rendermaster : why would a god require anything, for that matter?
deahca2 : I think that if indeed the Lord DID want vengeance, He could handle it on HIS OWN
brngreenback : "Sometimes, debating atheists on the internet..."
deadman_932 : and anyone who imagines that an innocent kid died cause god took vengeance for him is sick
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ With lag. :| joy to the fucking world.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:42:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
e_dehghan : is it ok now?
dove_1966 : how many wives have you had jfire?
brngreenback : Jeezus fuck, I had no idea we were so important.
johntheantibaptist : jfire if memory serves me correctly, they have found evidence that stonehenge's beginins go back to around 8000 bce and was built in 3 stages over a period of 500 years
indondasani : Lag=of Satan.
seraphina22 : Or 10 or 20? Ok..that's good. Thanks.
polspindoctor : God struck Aaron and his wife with lepracy because of what they said about Moses.
reason_over_faith : washes kitty's mouth out!!
deadman_932 : that kid did NOTHING to you, polspin
indondasani : Leprosy?
brngreenback : I mean, it's sad when an entire religion is hanging on the words of forty guys in a chatroom
rendermaster : lolol
polspindoctor : Leprosy
e_dehghan : where r u comma?
deadman_932 : and you said god killed him to take vengeance for you
deadman_932 : you are a sick fuck
deadman_932 : and delusional
reason_over_faith : True brn
deahca2 : it is disgusting, isn't it, deadman?
brngreenback : "Sometimes, debating atheists on the internet is like trying to heard cats. It just doesn't work very well. There are several options for Internet debates with atheists: AOL instant messenger, Yahoo chat rooms, my website, email, etc. "
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:43:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
rendermaster : gosh, let’s see if this works: the narrative describes god getting “angry’ - xianity becomes anthroporphism on steroids
indondasani : baron; it's easy to herd cats.
reason_over_faith : brn, hehe
dove_1966 : lol brn
brngreenback : 'course, the rest of his site kinda sucks
deadman_932 : oh, yeah, deah,i called him on it as soon as he opened his shit-filled mouth
theophrenie : « someone try huge fonts please.
rendermaster : one can’t take anthropormorphism any further than the claim that god IS a man
brngreenback : Indon, well yeah, just open a can. Of anything.
reason_over_faith : indon, but it is difficult to milk them.
indondasani : make sure they haven't eaten in a few hours, and then give them food.
polspindoctor : I merely said that I beleve that is possible, Deadman.
hotvegasman : greenbuck i can herd cats its called a sawed off shot gun
deadman_932 : you are a liar, polspin
deahca2 : I'm so damned repelled by the Christian beliefs ( most of them) that I get actually nauseous at times
indondasani : reason; true.
deadman_932 : i have the transcript
rendermaster : lolol
brngreenback : vegas, ha! yeah, that works too
deadman_932 : and so do others
indondasani : baron; heh.
polspindoctor : Of course you delete the lines where I said that.
dove_1966 : lol
reason_over_faith : brb
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:44:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gothchild8222000 : anyone in here like Cradle Of Filth?
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Milk me reason :)
theophrenie : « someone please tr a huge font size. type Huge.
rendermaster : well, deadman, keeping transcripts of pols would make it seem as if you weren’t aware he is just a troll
deadman_932 : polspin, i have the complete transcripts, you do not back down until i start calling you the sick fuck that you are
augustacase1 : "A better statement is everything that has come into existance, needs a creator"<----okay jack ass, then why do you say everything needs a creator in the first place, and furethermore, if something can exist without the need of coming into existance, then your entire argument falls through the floor anyway! What fucking moron. I think I'll e-mail this idiot.
e_dehghan : i love COF
gothamcity2k : what's up august.
gothchild8222000 : Im playing it right now
gothamcity2k : who's got up your arse
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:45:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
theophrenie : « case1, is that tireless?
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Joe, I thought that was michael something or other?
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : giggles
gothchild8222000 : if you want to hear
augustacase1 : No one..lol..just reading a stupid essay.
zedechiah_the_messiah : Somer hes using Craigs "fine tuning" of Kalams
polspindoctor : The Kingdom of God is at hand, why wait for the judgement.
rendermaster : the same person, kitty
deadman_932 : render, someone claiming that god killed a fifteen year old kid is extraordinary, even in here
silly_man_1969 : X-(
rendermaster : lol
gothamcity2k : what essay
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Joy, all my posts are coming through. *laughs*
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Oh.
deadman_932 : polspin IS micheal, kitty
brngreenback : Ooh, this is the good part of the site...
brngreenback : "So, following are just a fraction of the insults I've personally received."
hotvegasman : lmfao
theophrenie : « kitty, please type a big font, I am trying to see if it is filtered down.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Oh goodies. The terror threat is yellow, now.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:46:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
indondasani : yellow?
silly_man_1969 : :p
reason_over_faith : like that means anything
seraphina22 : Well if you believe in God, Deadman..then you know that the 15 year old kid would be MUCH better off, and they only people that would suffer would be his loved ones..which is who vengeance was being sought against, right?
indondasani : heh.
seraphina22 : *the only
zedechiah_the_messiah : so oonly christians die bad unjust deaths, Seraph?
deadman_932 : seraphina....a kid died and you think that's GOOD?
seraphina22 : I mean..if you believe in God..then there is nothing cruel about God taking someone's life.
seraphina22 : Huh?
deadman_932 : are you nuts?
indondasani : seraphina; unless that kid wasn't christian. that means he'd burn forever in hell.
polspindoctor : Life here on earth is only temporary Deadman.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:47:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deadman_932 : fuck you polspin, cunt
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ ummm. But first I have to figure out how to raise the font size
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ ok
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ give me a momentay
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Actually, seraphina22, he'd be in Hell for not believing in God. So no, he's not better off.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ oops.
polspindoctor : Its the life everlasting you should be worried about, Deadman.
deadman_932 : if i met you your life would be real temporary
seraphina22 : I'm just saying if you'r elooking at this through the eyes of a Christian, you wouldn't think that God is cruel for doing it. That's all. Not saying I'm agreeing.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Sorry bout that.
theophrenie : « whooopee, no large fonts can get through.
zedechiah_the_messiah : and Seraph, the claim by polspindoctor over there is that HE is a christian. He didnt like his wifes lawyer, so god killed that lawyers son in vengeance
gothamcity2k : nothing wrong with that essay augustacase
deadman_932 : polspin, it should be your lies and false claims that concern you
gothamcity2k : what's your qualm with it?
silly_man_1969 : Get a grip polspin. Worm food the lot of you
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Milk me reason :)
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ The word would be herd.
marjie_bear : deadman you know they always fall back on the "god works in mysterious ways" bull sh_t
comma2be : Jesus Loves Me This I know
reason_over_faith : kitty?
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : stabs Yahoo's servers
reason_over_faith : LOL
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:48:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ That's from awhile ago, reason. *laughs*
reason_over_faith : I said that like......yesterday.
deahca2 : Jesus may love but the rest of us think you're an asshole, comma
reason_over_faith : I know.
hotvegasman : kitty how can we milk you you havent had kids yet
munkman1 : lol deahca
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ No, you said it earlier. It was in response to your milking cats.
seraphina22 : Well, it's sad to say..but it is true that what goes around comes around..Karma is not a Christian concept.
reason_over_faith : backs away from kitty slowly.
gothamcity2k : any atheists want a chat?
seraphina22 : You can milk anything with tits
reason_over_faith : Vegas, women still produce milk moron. even if not pregnant.
rendermaster : loves the jars that the Masons have made - good for canning :)
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : doesn't lactate
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Vegas, I was kidding.
zedechiah_the_messiah : shakes his head
silly_man_1969 : My son does not love you comma. He thinks your a retsrdB-)
marjie_bear : goth isn't that what we are doing?
polspindoctor : It would be a kind of honor if you killed me Deadman, taking punishment for Gods Kingdom.
augustacase1 : Yes, we're all worm food, unless the state you're in makes them bury you in a casket with a vault, in which case you just decay away into nothing. worm food, or decay, take your choice. LOL
silly_man_1969 : retard even
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:49:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deadman_932 : seraphina, polspin got divorced...his ex had a lawyer..that lawyer's 15 yr old kid dies..polspin claimed that god took vengeance for polspin
indondasani : reason; but it takes some coaxing when they aren't pregnant.
reason_over_faith : indon, I know.
colorofjanuary : whuzzup.
reason_over_faith : :D
deadman_932 : that is sick, no matter how you try to gloss it over
rendermaster : hi, jan :)
indondasani : either hormones, or a decent amount of biofeedback.
augustacase1 : spammers should be shot
gremlin_net : is away (Away)
deadman_932 : polspin, you're sick in the head
reason_over_faith : indon, I jsut pinch it.
reason_over_faith : it comes out.
reason_over_faith : brb
polspindoctor : You must have a rotten life full of hate, Deadman.
colorofjanuary : deadman_932: yeah, but it was justified because polspindoctor lost some visitation of his kid....so...
seraphina22 : There are alot of lawyers in this world that do horrible things.
rendermaster : lolol
munkman1 : *** linuxtech33 will be ignored.
deadman_932 : yet i'm not the one gloating over the death of a child, polspin
deadman_932 : you were
deahca2 : polspin, if anyone's life is full of hate, you have demonstrated that it would be yours
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:50:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
ohnothimagen75 : anyone here not a chatroom junkie?
sage_yet_student : hi
theophrenie : « shot is too easy, I recommend lobotomies, for the deterent effect.
hotvegasman : seraph untill you need a lawyer
rendermaster : that pols is a father is one of the more frightening things I’ve heard today ;)
seraphina22 : To say that God punishes them is not so outlandish.
deadman_932 : seraphina...the KID did nothing
polspindoctor : I dont clote, Deadman.
deadman_932 : NOTHING
rendermaster : how does one “clote�
theophrenie : « very nice vegetables never hurt anyone.
fzzybelly : a clote is a cross between a clot and a quote
polspindoctor : God may have taken the child to keep him from sin, Deadman.
augustacase1 : Are you black? that's cool...Jeish? no problem..christian..great...chinese, japanese, hindu, russian, cuban, and scandenavian? no problem...Spammer? DEATH! X-( X-(
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:51:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
reason_over_faith : fzzy!
silly_man_1969 : :x
seraphina22 : Again, let me reiterate, Christians are taught to rejoice, not weep, upon someone's death.
deadman_932 : polspin, you claimed it was the revenge YOU
fzzybelly : howdy doo reason, nice to see you
deadman_932 : not anything else
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : looks at indon
deadman_932 : to revenge*
indondasani : shrugs.
rendermaster : well, augusta, that last post of yours looked suspiciously like spam ;)
ohnothimagen75 : i guess it doesnt make sense to look for a normal person in a chatroom
indondasani : clothe?
augustacase1 : What was I advertizing?
hunter_the_crazychick : is away (Away)
metaphorical_corruption : you fuckin bastrads
rendermaster : spamming doesn’t only refer to an advertisement
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Seraphina. The boy would be going to hell, according to Christians, because he did not believe in God. How is he better off in Hell?!
indondasani : only really, really misspelled.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:52:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
metaphorical_corruption : fuck you
polspindoctor : You have no understanding whatever, Deadman.
seraphina22 : How do you know he didn't believe in God?
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ lol indon that is awfully mispelled
seraphina22 : We don't know anything about this 15 year old boy.
rendermaster : believing in a god isn’t enough
deahca2 : we sure understand YOU pols. ROFL
seraphina22 : Only that he died.
rendermaster : one has ot believe in THEIR god
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Vegas, your id kind of told us that.
polspindoctor : The child did go to a church, Seraphina.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ seraphina22, incorrect.
hotvegasman : silly they wont let you into the pic its baned by yahoo
fzzybelly : render, you mean there is more?
metaphorical_corruption : fuck god in the ass with a cactus
deadman_932 : seraphina, so the mere fact that a guy who claims that YOUR faith is NOT christian ( as opposed to his) said that god killed a kid for him does NOT strike you as blasphemous?
augustacase1 : render, you're just jealous, because *I* live in the back hills of Kentucky, and get to have sex with my first cousin! ;-)
deadman_932 : it doesn't trouble you?
rendermaster : lolol augusta
colorofjanuary : ow. cactus.
deadman_932 : you make excuses for him?
gremlin_net : is back
gremlin_net : apollojedi posted his, ah, 'evidence' after all: http://gremlin.net/cgi-data/2003-02/37.html
deahca2 : I see, so the child didn't go to church and that's a good reason for your god to kill him? How sick!
deadman_932 : you're just as bad as he is, then
colorofjanuary : gremlin_net: i was just reading that.
rendermaster : sure, fzzy - infinte numbers :)
seraphina22 : No...according to his faith, I can see him making that connection.
hotvegasman : nope its my really big dick
sage_yet_student : hello gremlin
deahca2 : One more reason for Christianity to repell me.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:53:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
seraphina22 : I'm not saying it's right or wrong
gremlin_net : Hi.
fzzybelly : linuxtech on ignore
hotvegasman : lmfao
fzzybelly : jerk
fzzybelly : click
munkman1 : Religion is a crutch for the weakminded in order to feel good about this world and to help those poor people to keep on going.
polspindoctor : Are you a Christian, Seraphina?
metaphorical_corruption : shut the hell up linuxtech
deadman_932 : seraphina, the lawyer did his job
deadman_932 : he was not evil
metaphorical_corruption : we don't care
metaphorical_corruption : go away
polspindoctor : The lawyer did far more than his job requires.
theophrenie : « Kill everyone, let god sort them out.
sage_yet_student : is there an kind of interesting or inflamatory conversation going on in here..seems like a hodge-podge of nothing.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Seraphina, you did not see the discussion. You have no clue what you're talking about.
deadman_932 : polspin has come in here and lied repeatedly about being a saint, a prophet, about his life, about his accomplishments
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:54:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hotvegasman : dead yes we are untill she needs us to defend her from molesting charge
deadman_932 : polspin lost custody because he is a NUT
polspindoctor : I never claimed to be a Prophet.
theophrenie : « sage, you have heard what they have been saying about you.
deadman_932 : the wife's lawyer did JUST the right thing
polspindoctor : I am however a Saint.
deadman_932 : and he claims god killed the lawyer's kid, so ..it's okay by you, huh?
colorofjanuary : doesn't understand how polspindoctor can think he has any sort of credibility in here after saying that god killed the 15 year old because his father did his job.
fzzybelly : pols i have always thought of you as a living god
fzzybelly : not just a saint
munkman1 : augustacase, had sex with his cousin???
munkman1 : YUCK
polspindoctor : All saved Christians are Saints, you should know that Deadman.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:55:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
indondasani : polspin; then you're still lying.
fzzybelly : wow pols, you must be VERY busy on all saints day
theophrenie : « especailly the dead ones
seraphina22 : It's not okay..are you LISTENING to what I'm saying?
johntheantibaptist : munk i guess it would depend on who is the cousin
munkman1 : Discourage inbreeding, ban country music
deadman_932 : you're not saved , polspin, you claimed that your staus with god is reflected in behavior
gothamcity2k : evolution is a dying theory
gothamcity2k : materialism is dead
rendermaster : all “saved†xians are those who now identify themselves as “atheists†;)
deadman_932 : and you have the morals and ethics of scum
gothamcity2k : there is only one answer to the question of our origins
comma2be : Repent for the kingdom is near
fzzybelly : gotham thanks for the time saving advice
seraphina22 : I'm saying...According to his faith..I can see how he would justify it. Just like according to some of the things Muhammed said, I can see how people justify suicide bombings. It's not right...it's horribly wrong..but I can see their deluded reasoning.
munkman1 : comma2be = idiot
flank_er2000 : :))
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:56:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deadman_932 : seraphina, all i see is you saying the kid would be better off dead
gothamcity2k : fzzy: i presume you agree with me
unknown_invis_911 : :))
deadman_932 : and yeah,i can repost your claim
rendermaster : one can justify anything they wish by finding some portion of any scripture
unknown_invis_911 : :))
jfirebird1 : :))
polspindoctor : LOL
seraphina22 : Well...if the after life is as good as some people say..then yeah..maybe he would be.
hotvegasman : lmfao
jfirebird1 : :))
deahca2 : deadman, I'm pretty sure that Sera was explaining the thought process of a Christian i.e. pols
fzzybelly : gothamcity, no, i dont. i just want to thank you for letting me know that you are a nutcase and not worth a moment of my time
jfirebird1 : :x
hotvegasman : lmfao
jfirebird1 : 8-}
theophrenie : « searphin, living forever would be hell.
deadman_932 : and what if it's a pain-filled death, serahina, that's okay?
flank_er2000 : :))
gothamcity2k : fzzy: prove to me your belief is correct
jfirebird1 : :o)
jfirebird1 : >:)
deadman_932 : god tortures before you die, so??
unknown_invis_911 : :((
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:57:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
jfirebird1 : 0:)
fzzybelly : gotham you have not asked my what my beliefs are
rendermaster : if heaven is so wonderful, thne why do xians still attempt to stave off disease and old age?
seraphina22 : Well, I like to look at death much in the same way as I do birth. It's painful..but the result is good.
gothamcity2k : what are your beliefs belly
munkman1 : <~~~~can see augustacase spitting on his monitor
hotvegasman : lmfao
rendermaster : if heaven was as wonderful as xians seem to think, they’d have no use for doctors and medicine
rendermaster : they’d just die and go to heaven
fzzybelly : gotham, sorry, but that question falls directly under my previous post, please see my previous post
sage_yet_student : LOL munk
gothamcity2k : i think you want to play the part of joker
polspindoctor : The day my flesh burns and dies is the day I assend into heaven.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:58:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gothamcity2k : konw that batman gets his man
deahca2 : well let's see, you're not hiding. and you're a free porn bot. we got the message
colorofjanuary : rendermaster: i always wondered how that worked. :)
gremlin_net : Render: that would require more belief than they have.
theophrenie : « it's a dangerous myth to say, nobody is really dead, they are just spiritually challenged.
fzzybelly : gotham, can you prove that your assertion is irrefutably correct?
unknown_invis_911 : B-)
gothamcity2k : any atheists care to chat
rendermaster : lol theo
sage_yet_student : gremlin..tell me about belief
fzzybelly : gotham i am a hard boiled atheist
indondasani : polspin; which is also the day Jesus says, "Ah, it's _you_." and pulls the lever to Hell.
rendermaster : there are no atheists here, gotham - we are all hare krishnas - wanna buy a flower?
gremlin_net : gothamcity2k: okay. I've only got a couple of minutes though.
enki_in_the_abzu : if heaven really exists, then why would a god have bothered to put man on earth in the first place? why wouldnt he have just created man and put him right into heaven? why the pitstop?
indondasani : ...just for you, of course.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ haha indon
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 12:59:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deahca2 : <
unknown_invis_911 : :))
comma2be : And he will come riding in the clouds shinning like the sun at the trumpet call lift your voice it's the year of jubillee out of Zion's Hill Salvation Comes
johntheantibaptist : fzzy 3 minute or the whole 5 minute boil he he
theophrenie : « enki, good questions.
gremlin_net : sage_yet_student: belief is the pretention that a condition is true, despite the lack of supporting evidence.
colorofjanuary : comma2be will be ignored for 9999 days.
sage_yet_student : enki..because people are obnoxious.
munkman1 : *** comma2be will be ignored.
fzzybelly : john LOL.....the whole five minute boil
rendermaster : well, enki, think of mankind as god’s personal home entertainment system ;)
unknown_invis_911 : :))
seraphina22 : That's what I've always wondered. That's why in order for me to believe there is a God, I have to believe that He is limited in His power, not the almighty all p owerful God that we read about. Otherwise, I can't accept most of what He does.
unknown_invis_911 : :))
jfirebird1 : :))
fzzybelly : i think that gotham is too scared, and rightfully so, to debate me
enki_in_the_abzu : lol render
seraphina22 : If you believe that He is limited somehow, then you can began to make it make sense.
rmugedn : farts
deahca2 : riding? Jesus is going to be on a horse and fall from the clouds? tell me, will they at least have parachutes?
rendermaster : some say god has a remote control, others say that it’s all manual
Fastillion : UNITED NATIONS, May 30 (UPI) -- The U.N. Security Council Friday authorized the deployment of an international emergency force to help stabilize the situation in the Democratic Republic of the Congo's volatile northeast, where tribal violence has killed more than 400 people.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:00:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hotvegasman : goddess
hotvegasman : dusty
enki_in_the_abzu : god is up in heaven playing the Sims with our lives eh?
polspindoctor : Jesus was somehow limited on Earth.
rendermaster : if there is a god, then that god couldn’t be limited
gremlin_net : Render: maybe he's got an autostick >:)
comma2be : He is above all power's
fzzybelly : nicely put enki
seraphina22 : I've actually considered that exact analogy, Enki
deahca2 : BREAKING NEWS: Jesus ONCE AGAIN, has fallen with his horse from the skies. More at 6
rendermaster : gods have no limits
rmugedn : grem: maybe he's got a vibrator
seraphina22 : Rats in a lab
munkman1 : lol deahca
Fastillion : TEL AVIV, Israel, May 30 (UPI) -- Israeli officials Friday rejected an offer by the Palestinian leadership to reach a cease-fire deal with the militant group Hamas, saying only a "permanent cessation of terrorism" would satisfy them.
unknown_invis_911 : :))
metaphorical_corruption : fuck jesus and god
indondasani : raises an eyebrow at kitty.
fzzybelly : did gotham flee the room?
rmugedn : goldy'
gremlin_net : fzzybelly: yup.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:01:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
rendermaster : no, thanks, metaphorical, but if you enjoy making love to mexican men, you go aheadh
seraphina22 : Why couldn't He be?
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Grem, this character who posted on your board....
comma2be : Know matter what you say He still loves all of you:x
goddess_goldberry : lol.. hello all :X
rendermaster : hiya, goddess :)
fzzybelly : damn gremlin, and i thought i was gonna get a good debate
munkman1 : lol render jesus = hay-sus
silly_man_1969 : Comma you should really get out more:-)
metaphorical_corruption : what the fuck are you talkong about mexican guys
kalista_theraven : Hey goddess.
munkman1 : lol
goddess_goldberry : comma.. people who love me don't use horrible sized font
Fastillion : MIAMI, Florida (CNN) -- Six days after a Circuit Court judge granted permission, a deaf mentally disabled rape victim had her 6-month-old fetus aborted.
goddess_goldberry : hey kalis :X
comma2be : You are not God
gremlin_net : Kitty: he's a troll. He's a known fraud who just spams carm.org, where they collect 'evidence' that deities are real by banning atheists and molesting their posts.
deahca2 : Hamas is a terrorist group. Most of the WORLD knows this. TEMPORARY cease fire? ask Al quaida for a TEMPORARY cease fire.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:02:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
goddess_goldberry : comma.. right.. you are not smart
colorofjanuary : I think it's funny when people say they have proof of god, and then when asked to show their proof, they respond with: "so how do you think people got here on the earth" and crap like that.
silly_man_1969 : erm what happened to blind faith comma?
flank_er2000 : 8-| ok voice chat was funny for awhile now it's just the dumb leading the dumber.
rendermaster : yes, munk - jesus is real - he is the guy that does my lawn on weekends and is the man who works behind the counter at Taco Bell during the week and asks, “Would you like some refried beans with your enchilada?â€
goddess_goldberry : lol flank.. that is why I have voice off
munkman1 : LOL Rendermaster
sage_yet_student : and neither are you comma, so please stop being so overbearing with your font size..please.
comma2be : Yes I am talking to you False Prophet
munkman1 : ROFL
fzzybelly : i turned off voice about five months ago
seraphina22 : Seriously
colorofjanuary : Fastillion: interesting.
deahca2 : <
goddess_goldberry : ok.. comma is about to find the enlightenment from the god of iggy
silly_man_1969 : I know about your homosexual tendencies comma. How else could I know that?
polspindoctor : Walking in the flesh does not lead to enlightenment.
seraphina22 : Large font sizes get you ignored..If you want to reach more people..lower it.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:03:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
Fastillion : Through a court spokesman, the judge later released a written statement in which he said "the mother of the ward did not want her daughter to be subjected to any more of an invasive procedure than was absolutely necessary. ... This taken together with the greater weight of medical opinion that the fetus was subject to an extremely high risk of morbidity, foreclosed brief reconsideration of alternatives."
enki_in_the_abzu : too late for comma....i done iggied his ass...
comma2be : Don't you remember about the sacrifice of Elijah
fzzybelly : silly man, does your last post fall under the statement....it takes one to know one?
comma2be : God sent the Fire
rendermaster : it’s about time, enki
goddess_goldberry : hey.. what does everyone think about this court case with the muslim woman and the drivers licence
Fastillion : as a legal move, it is a big statement for pro choice
rendermaster : I haven’t heard about it, goddess
polspindoctor : One cannot serve money and God at the same time.
Sly_Cynical_Sadistic_Beast : goddess_goldberry, I think it's funny.
sage_yet_student : comma..you need to explain that one
theophrenie : « temple prostitutes are a good way to find any god, in my opinion.
comma2be : He is the Almighty God
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:04:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
munkman1 : goddess, she needs to take the veil off for the picture
seraphina22 : I think she needs to take the veil off and get her picture made. I'm beginning to wonder what the hell she's hiding under that thing.
enki_in_the_abzu : lol render....i just got back to chat in time to see one of his huge posts....
metaphorical_corruption : fuck god almighty
gremlin_net : Be back later. Going shipping....
sage_yet_student : what sacrafice
fzzybelly : goddess, the needs of the few are outweighed by the needs of the many
silly_man_1969 : I fully admit to being a fag fzzbelly
gremlin_net : shopping*
hotvegasman : jfire you lost ears
gremlin_net : Possibly both.
rendermaster : okay, let’s say god does need a sacrifice - I nominate comma!
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Indon, check grem's message board.
goddess_goldberry : fuck.. i will brb
Sly_Cynical_Sadistic_Beast : According to her religion the government has the right to ask her to take her hood off.
fzzybelly : silly man, gotta love it
colorofjanuary : later grem
indondasani : www.board.gremlin.net , is it?
hotvegasman : lyth
seraphina22 : People will sue over anything these days.
Fastillion : it is amazing that some people think the conception of sperm during rape is sacred
silly_man_1969 : And I want comma's ass
kalista_theraven : What,hot?
jfirebird1 : yeah im on pri with blue trying to get her in the room
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:05:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gremlin_net : indondasani: http://gremlin.net/cgi-data/2003-02/37.html
theophrenie : « fire or crucify render?
colorofjanuary : http://gremlin.net/cgi-data
fzzybelly : goddess, there are many other religions that have their dogmas over ruled by the govt
seraphina22 : And look..It's gotten her national attention..here we are in a chat room talking about her.
hotvegasman : hi
enki_in_the_abzu : i have good news for comma....he can rest easy now....his IQ test came back negative....hehe
silly_man_1969 : for sacrifice purposes:-)
kalista_theraven : Hey.
fzzybelly : LOL enki
theophrenie : « who seraphin?
munkman1 : I have a question for any other fellow atheists in here, Do you believe that anyone has any so-called "rights"?
indondasani : wonders what of interest he could find on grem's board.
fzzybelly : munk i do
Sly_Cynical_Sadistic_Beast : I know about it because it's local.
hotvegasman : crap its lunch time gonna take the boys to arbys bbl
sage_yet_student : i have the right to say blow me
comma2be : Elijah Proved the the whorshiper's of Baal the God is God And That he has Athority of everything
kalista_theraven : munk-Yep.
augustacase1 : Munk Sure. Subjective rights based on the social contract ideology, but rights never the less.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:06:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
rendermaster : they sure will, seraphina - the most ridiculous lawsuit of late was the class action suit filed by a part of overweight americans against fast food restaurants; they claimed that such restaurants were liable for their obesity;
theophrenie : « Yes, rights are evident by mutual consent.
polspindoctor : Why do you care what another believes, Fastillion?
munkman1 : I believe that there is no such thing as inalienable rights
sage_yet_student : you folks are horribly boring..goodbye.
enki_in_the_abzu : yep render....and that is just ridiculous
fzzybelly : sage LOL
comma2be : That's Why God Sent the fire to burn up Elijah's sacrifice
seraphina22 : Yeah I was thinking of that one when I said that.
fzzybelly : run sage run
hotvegasman : im out later all
theophrenie : « Rights are inalienable until voted away.
polspindoctor : Thats the type of thing Lawyers love to do, Render.
augustacase1 : Munk, perhaps not, but it's irrelevent to me. I don't mind admitting it's subjective. Such admission alters nothing.
rendermaster : because fast is a nasty bastard, pols, who gets off on demeaning and degrading what others believe, no matter what it may be
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:07:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
munkman1 : Unforntuenatley, I believe that we are allowed to have rights depending on where in the world we live.
polspindoctor : Well thank you for that explaination.
theophrenie : « comma, you need reality therapy.
goddess_goldberry : ok.. any YahELite users today?
enki_in_the_abzu : im a smoker and i cant wait until i get lung cancer or some such thing so i can sue the tobacco companies for zillions.....geezz
comma2be : To prove that the God of Abraham is the god above all
bluejene : heeey i got in:D brb
rendermaster : it’s amazing how much more intelligent fast has become since I’ve put him on ignore :)
bluejene : phone
munkman1 : first word mispelled very bad
fzzybelly : munk agreed
goddess_goldberry : lol render heheh
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:08:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
fzzybelly : it does depend on where in the world one lives
augustacase1 : Munk, who denies the social contract? Everyone realizers we live by a social contract.
rendermaster : nope, goddess - ytunnel is the true savior of yahoo
fzzybelly : agreed render
fzzybelly : i love it
rendermaster : yahelite was false
goddess_goldberry : errrr render. my free ytunnel gave up
kalista_theraven : goddess-A lot of them. At least six anyway.
goddess_goldberry : and YahELite is acting up
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Ugh.
kalista_theraven : kitty
augustacase1 : yahelite, the false saviour! LOL
irrefragabilis : is away (away)
theophrenie : « goddess, I had to reinstall
enki_in_the_abzu : goddess....isnt there a crack for ytunnel?
fzzybelly : i like YahELite thought
goddess_goldberry : teho ahh
goddess_goldberry : enki.. stopped working on my computer
rendermaster : ytunnel will give up if you iinstall every new version of messenger that is distributed without first checking whether or not they new versions are compatible with ytunnel
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:09:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
goddess_goldberry : well, what is this "packet 138" crap?
enki_in_the_abzu : ah i see
indondasani : ok, back.
kalista_theraven : The only thing that ytunnel+ypager has over YahELite is voice.
comma2be : Some one want to chat with me about god?
indondasani : and now, brb.
munkman1 : augusta, I dont deny the social contract, I am just saying that there can be no such thing as "inalienable rights". Beacuse if we did have them then we would have to have gotten them from a "higher being" and I dont believe in any higher being
goddess_goldberry : i think it is messing up my program
seraphina22 : What does Ytunnel do?
rendermaster : yes, kalista, but that is a big difference
waskybarrel : lol
kalista_theraven : In all other ways, it is far superior.
fzzybelly : goddess do not worry about that
goddess_goldberry : render.. i got booted off of ytunnel so many times
goddess_goldberry : it didn't protect me at all
theophrenie : « comma, you dictate, no thanks.
enki_in_the_abzu : heck i always have voice turned off anyway
fzzybelly : goddess then you needed to change your preferences, i have never had that problem
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:10:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
polspindoctor : Thats right, money is worthless, fruit of the spirit only has value.
goddess_goldberry : ahhhh
rendermaster : I haven’t been booted from messenger since I installed ytunnel
comma2be : Jesus
deahca2 : <
comma2be : I Love you
goddess_goldberry : well, i also have a stalker who likesto boot me alot
bluejene : /:)
silly_man_1969 : Your gonna burn commaX-(
colorofjanuary : wonders why people from other countries always PM and ask what her job and her husbands jobs are.
kalista_theraven : I was reading on badsyntax that they've got it working on May 25.
rendermaster : seraphina, go to http://ytunnel.digitalcitrus.com; it’s an addon utility to use with messenger and there is a free version
comma2be : God loves me
ecarta_2000 : /:)
comma2be : and you too
goddess_goldberry : a silly.. no, comma is just following the false god.. Odin just won't let him into Valhalla
goddess_goldberry : am I betting he doesn't lead an honorable life
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:11:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
silly_man_1969 : I dont love you I just want your ass
comma2be : I am a Gentile
comma2be : And I am saved
rendermaster : there are so many different configurations that it’s impoosible to say whetrher or not a certain piece of sosftware will work on all or even most machines
ecarta_2000 : I am an atheist, comma..and there are no gods...next!
bluejene : heeey agusta
deahca2 : HIya goddess honey
goddess_goldberry : comma.. jesus was just a trick my loki
rendermaster : but it’s cdertanly worth a good try
deahca2 : <
rendermaster : wb, reason
reason_over_faith : ty
kalista_theraven : reason
goddess_goldberry : if you were really intune with the spiritual world, you would realize this
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:12:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
goddess_goldberry : deah.. I saw that :X
polspindoctor : The government should support churchs to help the good work they do.
deahca2 : damn, it's only the beginning and I ALREADY hate summer vacation for the kiddies
reason_over_faith : lol @ pols
goddess_goldberry : pols.. no it shouldn't
ecarta_2000 : goodbye, unknown
goddess_goldberry : pols.. who is to determine which is good and which is not?
ecarta_2000 : 1 down....who knows how many to iggy next
silly_man_1969 : I dont love you comma you are strange
comma2be : Jesus is the Way the Truth and the Life
seraphina22 : now people..be nice. When you're secure with your own beliefs, there's no reason to badger others because of theirs.
reason_over_faith : the good work: hoarding money. making folks convert to their faith to get aide. etc
rendermaster : yes, the church of satan would can certainly use some help from the govenrment, pols
goddess_goldberry : Odin is the one true allfather
polspindoctor : The government can do that, Goddess.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:13:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
ecarta_2000 : hi blue
deahca2 : the government determines what is good and evil? now THERE'S a scary thought
comma2be : Know matter what you say He will all way's love you
Fastillion : Die in battle! Odin rules!
goddess_goldberry : pols.. the govt? don't they have enough to do providing us with rescue workers and roads? not to mention everything else?
agn0stic_and_atheist : è back
metaphorical_corruption : shut up
comma2be : Jesus
rendermaster : the difference between xians and luciferian satanists is that the satanists have the balls to admit that their faith is self-serving ;)
comma2be : jesus
comma2be : jesus
metaphorical_corruption : fuck him
comma2be : jesus
polspindoctor : Bush seems to be on the right track, Goddess.
ecarta_2000 : godamn yahoo
comma2be : jesus
comma2be : jesus
lythslament : ecarta-Leave and come back. That may fix it.
ecarta_2000 : that's two people iggied...
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:14:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
ecarta_2000 : ok..brb
goddess_goldberry : pols.. no he isn't.. do you think that all religions should be treated equally?
comma2be : Religion is man Made
goddess_goldberry : if we give money to the baptists for good works.. should we not do the same to the wiccans?
reason_over_faith : the right tracl pols? his faith based crap is a failure. he is runining this economy, and he puts us in jeopardy with wars we do not need.
comma2be : Christianity is you finding god
Fastillion : rendermaster, you filthy wanna-be Jew; go root through garbage with your giant nose to look for small change.
polspindoctor : With prayer and God's guiding hand, Bush could accomplish some truly great things.
rendermaster : but considering xians speak of satan more than any satanist that walks the earth, which group is the “true†representative of the dark lord of the underworld?
comma2be : and god finding you
deahca2 : that's nothing goddess, ONLY the evangelical Christians are being sent to Iraq by Bush, if equal , a WHOLE bunch of different religions would be sent to Iraq
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:15:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
goddess_goldberry : pols.. bush should have been praying instead of snorting crack and getting drunk everynight..
augustacase1 : "Give respect to those wo deserve it, instead of wasting love on ingrates." Where did that come from? Christian coalition perhaps? Southern Baptists? no...That's Anton Levy! How many christians in the US follow that nifty little idea. hmmmmmmmmmm
rendermaster : yes, pols, that’s what the catholic church stated before the crusades
waskybarrel : Render...sigh...go back to School
johntheantibaptist : ecarta you are still stepping on blue
goddess_goldberry : pols. but that is beside the point.. bush is ignoring the constitution
ecarta_2000 : fucking yahell!
polspindoctor : I believe he gave up drugs many years ago, Goddess.
rendermaster : when was the last time you heard a satanist preach anything, wask? ;)
ecarta_2000 : :((
ecarta_2000 : Im sorry blue...I mean no hard
ecarta_2000 : harm
rendermaster : well, pols, hyou should follow his example
silly_man_1969 : **==X-(
comma2be : I am a evangelical Christian
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:16:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
goddess_goldberry : augusta.. respect for humanity should be automatic.. I give everyone respect until they do something to NOT deserve it
polspindoctor : Now he claims to have God in his life, praise Jesus!
goddess_goldberry : pols.. residues are still with him..
goddess_goldberry : pols.. he has always claimed to have god in his life
rendermaster : but pols, he is of a specific denomination
ecarta_2000 : Praise Joe Pesci
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Bye gremlin.
goddess_goldberry : clinton had god in his life
rendermaster : and is a member of a church
rendermaster : so i guess he’s not a very good xian
rendermaster : :(
goddess_goldberry : everyone in politics has god in their life
deahca2 : render, Gracie told me that she was going to Iraq to "teach those with learning disabilities". Now, since WHEN has Gracie spoken pharsi?
comma2be : jesus
rendermaster : lol
comma2be : jesus
ecarta_2000 : Chruch=Cult
comma2be : jesus
augustacase1 : goddess I don't disagree with that, but how many christians in the US, live by that pure levey philosophy? I would say most.
comma2be : jesus
comma2be : jesus
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:17:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
polspindoctor : Do you think I was born yesterday, Goddess?
goddess_goldberry : august.. ahh i misread your point...
ecarta_2000 : sees blue jeane on the mic, cannot hear her
comma2be : yeah goddess
augustacase1 : pols, well you DID say you were "born again." LOL
deahca2 : <
rendermaster : no, pols, but you do have the collected knolwedge of someone who has only lived for a short time ;)
goddess_goldberry : pols.. sometimes yes..
rollerskate_skinny_69 : thats terrible
rollerskate_skinny_69 : wow
silly_man_1969 : Everybody know I am on the **== side. Scared shitless they are gonna invade my kingdom next
johntheantibaptist : goddes yes respect for humanity should be automatic but respect for the individual person has to be earned
rendermaster : being born once was more than enough - just ask my mother
polspindoctor : Well thats your mistake, I can clearly see God moving in the life of GW.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:18:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deahca2 : <,sees the evil that GW does
ecarta_2000 : lol@render
deahca2 : and SO does the rest of the world
rendermaster : yes, pols - maybe when george was snorting some cocaine that was jesus in the background with the razor blade and the mirror
goddess_goldberry : john.. sorry innocent until proven guilty.. i respect everyone until they do something to ruin that respect
ecarta_2000 : Yeah my friend found that out yesterday, render
comma2be : Jesus loves you
augustacase1 : GOD LOL
goddess_goldberry : pols.. that isn't god.. that is cheny slithering around
rollerskate_skinny_69 : WWJD
rollerskate_skinny_69 : lol
comma2be : What Would Jesus Do
goddess_goldberry : roller "what would jefferson do?
rollerskate_skinny_69 : lol
goddess_goldberry : roll over in his grave
comma2be : Yeah Praise the Lord
metaphorical_corruption : :)
silly_man_1969 : Wrong way around goddess people have to earn respect
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:19:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
rendermaster : wb, dove
lythslament : I thought it was 'We want Jack Daniels"?
comma2be : Praise the Lord
johntheantibaptist : goddes it is not that i prejudge them i simply reserve judgement until i am sure about them
rendermaster : lol
ecarta_2000 : he is now thanks to bush trying to religonize the government
dove_1966 : thxs render
polspindoctor : Jefferson would be pro Bush.
metaphorical_corruption : fuck the lord
comma2be : The loves you
ecarta_2000 : No, he wouldn't
comma2be : lord
rollerskate_skinny_69 : wow so mean age here is like 43
augustacase1 : US patriot to a protester......"If you don't like it here, why don't you just leave!"...Protester..."And become a victom of American Forign policy? No way!" LOL
rollerskate_skinny_69 : lol
deahca2 : ROFL, augsta. excellent retort
reason_over_faith : pols no, jefferson would have him executed for violating the constitution.
polspindoctor : Clinton is even pro Bush.
ecarta_2000 : Jefferson was against including religon in the government, and that is exactly what bush is trying to do
reason_over_faith : one for the faith based crap, the other for the patriot act.
rendermaster : I lost my taste for bush when I discovered that he actually proposed legislation to make an annual “jesus day†every year in june when he was governor of texas and then actually claimed that he’d make the same attempt if he ever became president
gremlin_net : is away (Away)
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:20:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
comma2be : Atheist prepare for your king Of Jesus's return to the Bride
reason_over_faith : he is not!!
lythslament : polspin-Ummm..no.
reason_over_faith : why do you lie so much?
reason_over_faith : lyth!!
rendermaster : he’s a xian, reason
lythslament : What?
Fastillion : rendermaster needs to lose his taste for cum
rendermaster : why else?
polspindoctor : Clinton is clearly pro Bush and supported the war in Iraq.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Indon, it's a troll's post. Humourous.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ And I have a comic for you to laugh at next :P
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Munk- I'd say there are gov't/society set rights.
rendermaster : rofl
yakamoo2001 : atheists win
silly_man_1969 : comma stop it with the large text. we know you are there
reason_over_faith : pols no he did not.
reason_over_faith : LOL
reason_over_faith : moron!!
rendermaster : oh, yes - as if the action in iraq had something to do with bush
rendermaster : lol
ecarta_2000 : But clinton is critizing bush right now for the tax cut
comma2be : Repent for the kingdom is near
reason_over_faith : he did a commercial that the tax cut will ruin the economy even more!!
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:21:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
rendermaster : mickey mouse could have been president and the same thi8ngs would have occurred
reason_over_faith : LOL you fucking moron
rollerskate_skinny_69 : are you serious comma2be
yakamoo2001 : the kingdom is nowhere
rollerskate_skinny_69 : lol
comma2be : Yes
polspindoctor : Yes of course Clinton doesnt agree with Bush on everything.
comma2be : He is coming
rollerskate_skinny_69 : lol
yakamoo2001 : there is no kingdom!
rollerskate_skinny_69 : no he isnt
johntheantibaptist : render i think mickey would do a better job
rmugedn : is away Mourning my existence... kill me....
rollerskate_skinny_69 : i feel bad for you
silly_man_1969 : comma you irate piece of shit. You are going on iggy
rendermaster : right, pols - clinton prefers chubby interns while bush prefers friends of his daughter
deahca2 : There is a school of thought that the kingdom is within us all. When seen in detail, I understand that stance
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : I for one am glad for the tax cuts. Now I can take my tax cut and pay my taxes.
ecarta_2000 : Its all in the administration, so its really not all bush is fault, but if bush was pushing the religous shit while he was governor, well...
comma2be : prepare ye the way of the lord
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:22:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
ecarta_2000 : <--has comma2be on iggy
yakamoo2001 : my lord is the lord of the tv's!
dove_1966 : Hi Ms Sandy
rendermaster : he certainly was, ecarta
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : Hello, Ms Alana.
rollerskate_skinny_69 : comma is sad
yakamoo2001 : the tv is todays god
rollerskate_skinny_69 : i feel bad for comma
comma2be : I love you all
silly_man_1969 : I was thinking more twat roller
yakamoo2001 : aw i love you too
rollerskate_skinny_69 : comma when you say that the lord is comming you remind me of the apostils who thought the same thing did he come?
rollerskate_skinny_69 : no
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:23:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
ecarta_2000 : So, while i DO NOT think bush is a dumbass, we must pay attention to his past to find out if its him doing this, or the people behind the scenes
rollerskate_skinny_69 : hes not commign soon
augustacase1 : comma2b I took you off iggy just long enough to say Thank YOU!!! You're doing more to get in the way of Christianty then *I* EVER could! Keep up the good work!
bluejene : never heard this
rendermaster : for those interested, you can check out this link, which has the text of a ny times article regarding the “jesus dayâ€
ecarta_2000 : :)) august
yakamoo2001 : and why do you say he?
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : Jesus day? What a fucking clown.
comma2be : May the Lord bless you agustacase1
deahca2 : See fundies DO provide a service. Use them as an example of WHAT NOT TO BE.
rendermaster : amen, deah :)
ecarta_2000 : good point, deah
yakamoo2001 : pst, there is no god
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:24:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
ecarta_2000 : right on, yaka
comma2be : I love you
enki_in_the_abzu : i heard that some xian fundies think that bush is the second coming! lol
lythslament : blue-Is that song not awesome? :)
johntheantibaptist : blue who is that
lythslament : john-They Might Be Giants
deahca2 : <
johntheantibaptist : thanks
thuglife_2pac_a_k_a_makaveli_187 : hello followers
rendermaster : lol
lythslament : deah-They Might Be Giants
deahca2 : I'll download that for sure
rendermaster : as I always say, evangelical xianity is the best advertisement for atheism that exists
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:25:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
taniwha_is_waiting : Jesus Loves your Tight Ass!
thuglife_2pac_a_k_a_makaveli_187 : SO who here believes n "GOD"
deahca2 : I do, maka
rendermaster : stop,tani - you are getting me hot! ;)
thuglife_2pac_a_k_a_makaveli_187 : lets go then
lythslament : deah-If you want to sample it, the song is from the album Mink Car, and I've got it here http://www.recreationalthought.com/Music The title is Man its so loud in here.
deahca2 : about what?
thuglife_2pac_a_k_a_makaveli_187 : wha makes u feel there is a god
agn0stic_and_atheist : è lol
ecarta_2000 : sorry maka, I stopped believing in bullshit a long time ago
thuglife_2pac_a_k_a_makaveli_187 : what makes u believe
comma2be : Do Not throw you pearls before Pigs
deahca2 : thanx, lyth. I'm sure to download it off bearshare
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:26:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
agn0stic_and_atheist : è yes, deahca2 - answer the question [chuckles]
rendermaster : I’ve got to run for awhile - students need some attention - bbl
yakamoo2001 : back
deahca2 : I choose to believe maka. I have NO PROOF.
yakamoo2001 : computer frozed
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Am I the only one having Yahoo.Yahelite problems today?
thuglife_2pac_a_k_a_makaveli_187 : why do u choose
ecarta_2000 : <---can only hear lyth
yakamoo2001 : why not?
thuglife_2pac_a_k_a_makaveli_187 : because of what random people placed in a book
yakamoo2001 : i like pearls
deahca2 : Because I LOVE the concept of the Lord
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Yahoo/Yahelite problems, that is.
bluejene : :D
agn0stic_and_atheist : è witty - do you accept IMs ?
ecarta_2000 : I choose not to believe in gods simply cause there is no proof..and its all made up
bluejene : new TMBG am so happy:D
deahca2 : No, maka, I use my scriptures as a guide only
taniwha_is_waiting : Deahca: You like fairy tales. Deal.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Yes agnostic
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:27:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
kalista_theraven : is away (Away)
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ From people I know, anyway.
ecarta_2000 : The book is fictionalized ...ever thought about that?
bluejene : k..
deahca2 : could be a fairy tale. The jury is still out
yakamoo2001 : i believe the concept of the cristian deity is screwed up
enki_in_the_abzu : hmmmm....my voice isnt working....
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Deah isn't a Christian, folks.
bluejene : k
agn0stic_and_atheist : è I wanted to run a little story by you, it's my attempt at agnostic-atheism by analogy - I would like your opinion.
taniwha_is_waiting : deahca: Nope, it's in. The bible's a load of shit.
thuglife_2pac_a_k_a_makaveli_187 : why believe in something just 2 believe
thuglife_2pac_a_k_a_makaveli_187 : are u afraid'
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Sure sure go ahead.
agn0stic_and_atheist : è ok.
thuglife_2pac_a_k_a_makaveli_187 : taht maybe its true
deahca2 : well, until it becomes a fact, I'll continue on in my belief.
bluejene : lol hon.. i can only kinda hear ya.. whatta sound system on this thing:D
ecarta_2000 : Hey Render..that site you posted was pretty scary
yakamoo2001 : thats the only part of "god" that bugs me
thuglife_2pac_a_k_a_makaveli_187 : and if u dont believe u will burn in hell
taniwha_is_waiting : deahca: Apply that the Pooh Bear too.
nimiwey : who cares if she wants to believe
yakamoo2001 : it's like your right and your wrong
nimiwey : it gives people hope
lythslament : blue-I heard. It sounds good.
thuglife_2pac_a_k_a_makaveli_187 : it cant be a fact
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:28:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deahca2 : Nope I"m NOT afraid of the Lord at all. Death? nope, but, I must admit, I'm afraid of pain
taniwha_is_waiting : Comma2be, how about having the balls to debate me?
taniwha_is_waiting : Chickenshit
deahca2 : I've had to face my mortality and comes to grips with it
ecarta_2000 : because I am not just going to believe in something for the fear of going to a made up place when I die...its all bullshit
thuglife_2pac_a_k_a_makaveli_187 : except for the face that everything in the bible has been proven with science not a creator
yakamoo2001 : what ever happened to god forgives all?
thuglife_2pac_a_k_a_makaveli_187 : such as teh creation
thuglife_2pac_a_k_a_makaveli_187 : it has been proven a lie
deahca2 : gives me hope? Sort of, I guess, my belief is a hope that the Lord does exist
bluejene : i knew that
thuglife_2pac_a_k_a_makaveli_187 : the big bang is responcible
yakamoo2001 : lyth, shut up!
thuglife_2pac_a_k_a_makaveli_187 : yes
enki_in_the_abzu : is comma still posting in humongous font?
comma2be : Open ended Questions and Answers Put your trust in the Lord And Repent and Be saved
nimiwey : of course it gives you hope
thuglife_2pac_a_k_a_makaveli_187 : they luv this hope
ecarta_2000 : brb
bluejene : devo's mothersbaugh does rugrats.. lol
lythslament : yakamoo-Piss off.
colorofjanuary : is back
colorofjanuary : haha taniwha_is_waiting
thuglife_2pac_a_k_a_makaveli_187 : if there wsa no hope
taniwha_is_waiting : comma: You're banned for being a fucking nazishit.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:29:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
thuglife_2pac_a_k_a_makaveli_187 : and people did not fear god
nimiwey : there is nothing wrong with that
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ thuglife_2pac_a_k_a_makaveli_187, deah is NOT A CHRISTIAN. She isn't a fundie either. Nor is she ignorant of science.
colorofjanuary : is looking up more massage stuff.
thuglife_2pac_a_k_a_makaveli_187 : and fear hell after death
thuglife_2pac_a_k_a_makaveli_187 : then they would b evil in life
yakamoo2001 : our universe was created by another universe which was created by another universe which was created by this universe
deahca2 : <
bluejene : newyork... :D
Fastillion : What is the difference between a Jew and a monkey? Only the Jew collects all his thrown poop afterward to save it.
bluejene : sure
nimiwey : then what do you believ dea
yakamoo2001 : music!
bluejene : :D ty...
lythslament : np
deahca2 : I believe in the Lord nimiwey
nimiwey : i dont get it fast
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:30:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
nimiwey : but no heaven or hell
bluejene : ohhh i have this
nimiwey : are you an X tian?
yakamoo2001 : there is probably a higher power but it's probably perfectly mortal
lythslament : Which one?
deahca2 : No nimiwey, I am not
bluejene : newyork
nimiwey : oh okay
lythslament : Very good song.
nimiwey : do you have a group?
deahca2 : <
nimiwey : just a higher power believer?
nimiwey : oh okay
yakamoo2001 : exactly
lythslament : blue-It is on a couple of their albums.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:31:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
lythslament : blue-That one is from No!
nimiwey : Jewishness makes more sense than X tianity
lythslament : I play that on my birthday.
deahca2 : to me it does, nimi. LOL
nimiwey : so do you have a strong faith?
yakamoo2001 : except the higher power may be the very earth on which we stand. not a sentient thing at all, just that which lets us live
deahca2 : I think so, nimi, in my own fashion
nimiwey : well Jesus was Jew
deahca2 : So far, I have not lost my belief in the Lord
nimiwey : for gods sake
lythslament : blue-No! is actually a kid's album.
nimiwey : God?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:32:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
nimiwey : you're not messianic Jew are you?
lythslament : Yep. Best seller, too.
deahca2 : Yes, nimi. I"m only typing the Lord for dio. He resents it when I type G for God.
nimiwey : lol
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ lyth
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ goddess, do you know who? And hi :)
nimiwey : well I get confused
deahca2 : Oh no, nimi, THEY are christians
nimiwey : you can't win with us. lol
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:33:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
nimiwey : not according to them
nimiwey : they're all weird
lythslament : Hey Kitty.
nimiwey : *hides when thinks of messianic Jew step dad*
deahca2 : IN a way Judaism is messianic as we do expect the messiah to come, but, when it comes to Jesus, that's where Christianity and Judaism parts company
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Ltyh
nimiwey : yea
ondoher2 : lythipottietrainingfailure
ondoher2 : kitty :)
nimiwey : well, I think the Jews would know if Jesus was the messiah
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:34:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
lythslament : ondiadultdiaperwearer
deahca2 : I think so too, nimi.
nimiwey : I mean, it's an ethnicity
ondoher2 : :))
colorofjanuary : wants to learn orthobionomy.
nimiwey : and you prob have ancestors that were near it somewhere in time
deahca2 : Which is why we did not accept Jesus as the messiah. He simply did not fulfill the Davidic Prophecies
nimiwey : well according to Luke he did in the NT
mostafanasare : :D
lythslament : Ondo-What sort of music do you listen to?
deahca2 : LOL, not even close, nimi
ondoher2 : wants a lobotomy
nimiwey : matt mark and luke are the same story just written to different audiences
ondoher2 : lyth: classic rock
lythslament : ondo-I think that one is enough.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:35:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
lythslament : Ah, nvm then.
nimiwey : luke was trying to convert Jewish readers
ondoher2 : my frontal lobe grew back and is tormenting me
mostafanasare : :D
nimiwey : it's all slanted
nimiwey : NT contradicts the torah
deahca2 : I doubt he had much success, nimi. Christianity became popular among the romans did it not? Was that NOT the seat of the most christians?
mostafanasare : ytr kojh
nimiwey : stick your finger all the way up your nose on
johntheantibaptist : ondo ever hear the song " I would rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal labotomy"
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Ondo, you can't have a lobotomy.
lythslament : Poor ondo. I've got a semi-sterile spork here. I could remove it for you.
mostafanasare : ;)
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:36:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
nimiwey : yea lol it was the seat of X tianity
nimiwey : Roman catholics
ondoher2 : john: just different ways to kill the pain the same
lythslament : I'm not a surgeon, but I'm friends with some. Does that qualify me?
ondoher2 : loves dr demento
mostafanasare : ooohuyt rte sawe
nimiwey : they all fucked up too
mostafanasare : :D
johntheantibaptist : ondo yep i do too
lythslament : ondo-I've got some Dr. D. best of stuff.
johntheantibaptist : ondo i have his 20th,25th, and 30 th anv. cd's
mostafanasare : bayee:D
ondoher2 : lyth: when i interviewed for my firstjob, i heard a story abotu a guy who said, "well, i've never actually programmed, but i hsave a friend who does it, it it doesn't look too hard."
nimiwey : X tians condemn Jews dont but we all condemn Jews
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:37:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
lythslament : haha ondo
ondoher2 : kitty: why not?
colorofjanuary : ondoher2: what kind of retard does that?
ondoher2 : lyth: ya
nimiwey : really though Dea, why do Jews usually make so much money in America?
ondoher2 : jan: one who doesn't get the job
nimiwey : my best friend is Jewish
deahca2 : well , it does seem that MANY Christian religions make a point of hatred of Jews. Christ killers, you know. LOL. even though there OWN scriptures claim the romans killed their god
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Ondo, you have to have a brain to have a lobotomy.
nimiwey : and her whole family does too
ondoher2 : kills kitty and steals her bot
deahca2 : No idea. I'm not rich by any stretch of the imagination
nimiwey : lol
colorofjanuary : ondoher2: god i hope so. but then, it seems that GWB could have gotten by using that method....
seraphina22 : Jesus was a Jew
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:38:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : giggles
lythslament : ;)
nimiwey : I've met so many successful Jews
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ It's an old joke. I had to say it. Even though I think you're a very bright cookie, ondo.
deahca2 : Probably because of the education, nimi. We do lean heavily on education.
ondoher2 : i've never actually been president, but my dad was, so, it doesn't look that hard
seraphina22 : And why would Christians hate them for doing something that was fulfilling a prophecy?
nimiwey : yea it must be a culture thing passed down
colorofjanuary : ondoher2: it worked for him.
lythslament : ondo-I always like those..
johntheantibaptist : lyth i am a huge dr. demento fan
lythslament : "My dad was a lawyer, so I know."
ondoher2 : lyth: hahaha, yeah. most popular amongst mid teens
lythslament : john-Dr. Demento iz da shiz-nit.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:39:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
agn0stic_and_atheist : è nimiwey - perhaps, historically, the exclusion of Jews from traditional trades in medieval Europe has gone some way to engendering a mentality of self-sufficiency and business mindedness in Jewish culture?
yfridayrules : personally I don't hate jews - jus the fact that they can't understand that jesus was the messiah that was prophised
colorofjanuary : lythslament: sometimes that works, though. my boyfriend's dad is a lawyer, and from helping him at the office, he's retained a lot.
johntheantibaptist : lyth yeah he is
deahca2 : sera, the jews didn't kill the christian god. According to THEIR OWN scriptures, the romans killed their god
lythslament : ondo-And people who don't grow out of their teens.
ondoher2 : lyth: exactly
nimiwey : Pontius Pilate
ondoher2 : hey, i knew a guy who met an actor once, so i can tell you about how hollywood works!
lythslament : I've got a bunch of Monty Python music too.
deahca2 : We understand quite well, yfriday. Jesus just did not meet the Davidic Prophecies.
lythslament : Eric Idle Sings is excellent.
colorofjanuary : should go find a job.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:40:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
nimiwey : lol color
yfridayrules : what were the davidic prhpecies?
lythslament : color-You can have one of mine.
deahca2 : don't you know, yfriday? Any of them?
ondoher2 : lyth: deadman liked my story idea
johntheantibaptist : lyth i have a couple of pythons stuff like the hitler rap and the spanish inqusition song
lythslament : blue-Everyone tells me that that sounds like me.
lythslament : ondo-Don't blame him.
ondoher2 : lyth: now i just need time :(
colorofjanuary : lythslament: i wish.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:41:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
lythslament : color-Seriously. Take one. I don't want it.
deahca2 : From the MAJOR complete list of prophecies, Jesus did fulfill some. But, lets face it, lots of the prophecies are really vague. Even I could fulfill some of them. LOL> Which is why, we as Jews, insist that ALL the prophecies be fulfilled
yfridayrules : deah you tell em them,
lythslament : lol blue
johntheantibaptist : nimi don't feel bad i am sort of a bum right now i am out of work for an injury
deahca2 : Which one do you dispute, yfriday? We'll go from there.
nimiwey : it sux
seraphina22 : Deahca..what do you think about Ephraim and Manasseh?
lythslament : blue-Not a prob'.
taniwha_is_waiting : Hey you know what? I realized something today.
ondoher2 : bah! those pesky prophecies. nah, jesus will wrap those up on is next visit. don't worry.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ What taniwha?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:42:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
ondoher2 : who is blue?
yfridayrules : what were the prophecies - tell me
deahca2 : LOL, ondoher, that's not the way it works
taniwha_is_waiting : There's no point in standing up to Mike Powell of the FCC. He's gonna do what he wants, and he doesn't care. Coz he's a fucking fascist.
nimiwey : what happened to you john
lythslament : ondo-bluejene
johntheantibaptist : nimi i have a broken ankle
ondoher2 : deahca ;)
ondoher2 : doesn't see a bluejean
deahca2 : well, I"ll give you say four and you give me four? I have a feeling that you don't know any. Care to match?
lythslament : blue-Yeah, another favorite of mine.
nimiwey : yikes
yfridayrules : I dind't say I knew the davidic prophecies
nimiwey : jesus would reign in gold
johntheantibaptist : nimi tell me about it i have been out of work since last sep.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:43:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
nimiwey : i was canned last sept
nimiwey : from being a catholic school teacher HA HA HA HA
deahca2 : ah, I see. Well, then why the comment that the Jews did not recognize Jesus as the messiah from your previous posts?
johntheantibaptist : lol nimi
lythslament : Yep.
nimiwey : but Im an atheist i think they found out.
ondoher2 : i quit a job in december
yfridayrules : because of the prophecies in the old testament
ondoher2 : i was told i was crazy for quitting without another job lined up
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:44:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deahca2 : and yet you admit that you don't know them? How can you reconcile your comment with the fact that you don't even know them?
nimiwey : oh god ive been thru job heel
nimiwey : hell that is
nimiwey : deah, you're awesome
yfridayrules : I know the old testament prophecies
Atheist_Dictator : bluejene, did you get that program to work?
nimiwey : I worked for enterprise rent a car
nimiwey : that cult
deahca2 : then yfriday, let's get down to it. I"ll give four prophecies and we can debate them. THEN, YOU give four prophecies and we can debate those. Fair?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:45:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
nimiwey : see you all later
yfridayrules : ok you start
a_great_white_dope : hey room
deahca2 : Perhaps THEN you can understand why we did not accept Jesus as the Davidic Messiah.
ondoher2 : wasn't so bad. i took about four months off, with two or three of those having me work a part-time job for a friend. was a nice little break
enki_in_the_abzu : oh this should be good....hehe
deahca2 : fine. First four from me.
yfridayrules : gone on then tell me them
deahca2 : <
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ wb agnostic
deahca2 : let's try Isaiah, 9:16 ( note I'm using a christian bible)
deahca2 : for one
lythslament : blue-How about some Monty Python?
agn0stic_and_atheist : è tx kitty [hugs kitty with an embrace of pure sexual energy]
a_great_white_dope : so, whats the topic in here.......oh is it atheism versus christianity again??
deahca2 : Jer 23:5
lythslament : I have two very appropriate songs for this room, I think.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:47:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : giggles
deahca2 : that's two
deahca2 : Isaiah 11:1 that's three and
yfridayrules : what do they say bible not at hand right now
colorofjanuary : .
deahca2 : Psalm 110-1-4 that's four
agn0stic_and_atheist : è I don't onw a Bible.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:48:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
ondoher2 : owns a bible
deahca2 : REady?
agn0stic_and_atheist : è I do have LOTR somewhere however.
Atheist_Dictator : blue, did you get that ymlite to work?
a_great_white_dope : he he he
deahca2 : <
ondoher2 : yes, i have the copy i read, the copy i lend and the mellenium edition i save
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:49:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
ondoher2 : and i may one other
deahca2 : YOu don't HAVE to give YOUR four until we debate these four
a_great_white_dope : no offence
deahca2 : I"m ready any time you are
agn0stic_and_atheist : è ondoher2 - fanatic? lol
yfridayrules : ready - give me time to read them - been to get my bible
taniwha_is_waiting : Hey kids! Did you know that American Fundie Christians like Comma2be will force you to convert or be obliterated?
agn0stic_and_atheist : è Tom Bombadil is my favourite.
deahca2 : Okay
agn0stic_and_atheist : è or maybe Fatty Lumpkin
Atheist_Dictator : bluejene, did you try out ymlite?
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Ondo- I have a set of the trilogy :D
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:50:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
ondoher2 : agn0stic: here is the difference between a fan and a fanatic: a fan gets in line at 5pm the night of the opening midnight showing so that he gets a good seat
lythslament : ymlite?
ondoher2 : a fanatic gets in line at 5pm the night of the opening midnight showing so that he gets a good seat--dressed as gandalf
lythslament : Mich-What's Ymlite?
ondoher2 : i'm a fan
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:51:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
yfridayrules : isiah 9:16 - for those people who lead this people lead them astray and those who are led by them are swallowed up? that isn't a prophecy
ondoher2 : wb jan
colorofjanuary : hey ondo....need a massage? :)_
colorofjanuary : hehe thanks.
lythslament : Link me.
agn0stic_and_atheist : è ondoher2 - have you read all the 'supporting' myth about Melkor and buddies?
ondoher2 : jan: desparately
Atheist_Dictator : I will
Atheist_Dictator : just a sec
colorofjanuary : ondoher2: i'll come up!
ondoher2 : agn0stic: i've read the silmarillion about five times, maybe. not much of the other stuff though.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:52:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
ondoher2 : jan: do i get a happy ending?
agn0stic_and_atheist : è personally, I loved The Hobbit most, small, neat and coherent.
apd52271 : any 1 from arnold missouri
colorofjanuary : i went to a workshop last night for massage. now i've kinda got the itching to do more massage.
yfridayrules : jeremiah 23:5 - he is talking about solomon
colorofjanuary : ondoher2: your neck and shoulders? definitely! :D
ondoher2 : knows that jan knows that's not what he meant :P
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:53:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
colorofjanuary : knows that. ;)
yfridayrules : sorry guys have to go
comma2be : jesus
yfridayrules : God bless you all
comma2be : loves
deahca2 : Isaiah 9 : 6 For a boy has been born for us, a son given t us to bear the symbol of dominion on his shoulders:and he shall be called in purpose wonderful, in battle God-like, Farther for all time, Prince of Peace.
comma2be : you
deahca2 : What do you have?
ondoher2 : the mythology in the silmarillion is amazing, once you get past the creation story. Some of the stories are terribly tragic.
colorofjanuary : what's the silmarillion
colorofjanuary : ?
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : deah, he doesn't have anything. He left.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:54:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deahca2 : Now HOW can you t hink that jesus fulfilled that prophecy?
ondoher2 : and it gives so much more depth to LOTR when you've read it
deahca2 : I don't see how, personally
agn0stic_and_atheist : è ondoher2 - I read it once, a long tome ago, I was a bit young and got lost off, I might go back to it.
seraphina22 : What version did that come from, Deahca?
comma2be : Satan I command you out of all thes people in the blood of jesus
lythslament : Mich-I found it.
lythslament : Google. Yes, d'ling.
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : laughs at comma.
deahca2 : oops, darn, zsa, I lose more christians this way
Atheist_Dictator : cool
seraphina22 : What religion are you, Deahca?
ondoher2 : jan: th esilmarillion is the tale of the first and second ages of middle earth. it was published after tolkien died, by his son christopher.
deahca2 : <
agn0stic_and_atheist : è comma2be - gimme a kiss, you know you wanna.
lythslament : Mich-Yeah, I saw that too.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:55:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : I find the interpretation of prophecy by the jews pretty darned interesting, deah.
colorofjanuary : ondoher2: oh neat.
deahca2 : We do have the originals, zsa. LOL
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : I agree.
comma2be : waves at enki_in_the_abzu
indondasani : greetings, all. again.
taniwha_is_waiting : comma2be smells of HJ.
comma2be : hi
agn0stic_and_atheist : è hi indon
stormwarning5 : hi
ondoher2 : jan: it can be a bit daunting at times, but i find it worth it, it is so rich
seraphina22 : So what do you think about Jesus?
ondoher2 : indon
comma2be : says, "Pardon me, do you have any Grey Poupon?"
deahca2 : What gets my goat is that Christian assume that we MISSED on Jesus, when he just did not fulfill the prophecies
taniwha_is_waiting : comma2be has that sick fascist mindset that says "YOU WILL BE PUT IN A CAMP".
seraphina22 : I know you don't accept him as the Messiah
indondasani : munches happily on peanut butter cookies.
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : Can't expect much less from then, deah.
ondoher2 : deahca: well, they think worse about us atheists ;)
enki_in_the_abzu : comma just smells....period
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:56:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : He's their god after all.
deahca2 : I think he was an observant Jew, myself , that was made into a god after his death, by his pals and others
comma2be : No I Telling all of you to Repent and be Saved for the lord commands it
seraphina22 : You don't think he believed he was the Messiah?
ondoher2 : comma: no thanks
agn0stic_and_atheist : è My view is that Jesus was probably a real man, and, from what I understand, the leader of a Jewish breakaway sect, but I'm by no means knowledgeable.
colorofjanuary : ignored comma a long time ago
deahca2 : Absolutely not, sera. As I've said quite a few times, Jesus just did not fufill the Davidic Prophesies.
taniwha_is_waiting : ondoher; did comma offer to pray for satan to come out of your ass? Or just offer to put you in a death camp?
indondasani : agnostic; that's probably close to the view held by most biblical scholars.
the_passenger2002 : Bi-polar disorder with a dilusion of granduar
stormwarning5 : is the son of man the same as the son of God?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:57:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
comma2be : My Anchor Hold inspite of the Storm
seraphina22 : It's amazing though how one man has had such a profound impact on the world. Empires have fallen..Wars have been waged.
deahca2 : He is the Christian messiah, and I have no problem with that. They can choose whom they like. For Jews, we MUST have the messiah that fulfills the prophecies
taniwha_is_waiting : seraphina: So you think that this "Jesus" is something more than a fictionalized dead jew guy from way back?
ondoher2 : tabiwha: now he is telling me some story about his god wanting me to repaint his house or something
indondasani : though, arguably, some essenes just thought of their way as the right kind of judaism.
taniwha_is_waiting : sera: That doesn't mean that this "one man" is real or not.
the_passenger2002 : But it is a sinking ship. ;;)
seraphina22 : Regardless of whether or not he is the true Messiah, there is some divine meaning in his existence.
indondasani : probably the majority right near the beginning of the movement.
comma2be : www.billygraham.org
taniwha_is_waiting : sera: you have 1 minute to prove that divinity, or be shitbanned.
Atheist_Dictator : I hear you, Mark
taniwha_is_waiting : Er, shitcanned.
deahca2 : sera, in that I agree. Jesus, from what I've read , didn't say much that wasn't in our scriptures to begin with
Atheist_Dictator : you couldn't hear me earlier
scotsmanmatt : Hello everyone :)
colorofjanuary : i like shitbanned better.
ondoher2 : billy graham :))
deahca2 : Different wording but the same thing
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:58:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : shitbanned, shitcanned...it's all good.
taniwha_is_waiting : sera, you have 30 seconds left, choad.
deahca2 : <
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : launches an assault on indon's cookie
taniwha_is_waiting : deah: Yeah, them christians love THAT nazi routine
seraphina22 : I'm not trying to prove anything, Tani.
indondasani : defends it, the only way he knows how!
indondasani : eats.
taniwha_is_waiting : sera: then you're a coward and a liar for claiming ultimate reality of some fairy tale but not proving it. Your claim of a god is therefore branded a LIE, and you a FRAUD.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 13:59:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
ondoher2 : kitty: does it have chips of mass chocolaty goodness
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : drools.
scotsmanmatt : laughs@taniwha
seraphina22 : Ok..first of all, Tani. I'm not a Christian. So..suck on that.
indondasani : already said they were _peanut butter_ cookies.
ondoher2 : indon cannot be trusted with such things. we must remove it by force
taniwha_is_waiting : sera: I didn't say you were. But you made a claim, and failed to prove it. Your fairy tale is a lie.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : distracts indon from eating
indondasani : appeals to the UN to save his cookie, but they do nothing.
comma2be : Becareful of the rope of bondage
deahca2 : Jesus and Christians had MUCH of an impact on us as Jews, too, sera, much to our detriment
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ LOL
colorofjanuary : wants some peanut butter cookies...
taniwha_is_waiting : sera: Suck on that, brainless religious shite.
colorofjanuary : looks for a recipe
seraphina22 : I made no claims whatsoever..I only asked Deahca questions about her/his faith, loser.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:00:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : sends color some peanut butter cookies
johntheantibaptist : bbl
ondoher2 : indon: what you say has no bearings. we sold you chips, you have not shownyou have dispensed wit them. we will come and take your chips away by force
taniwha_is_waiting : sera: Ah, so you're a LIAR too. You claimed as follows....:seraphina22: Regardless of whether or not he is the true Messiah, there is some divine meaning in his existence.:
scotsmanmatt : deahca: Just like Yahweh and the Jews have MUCH of an impact on the Amalekites to their detriment?
jfirebird1 : in the heat of the night>:)
taniwha_is_waiting : You claimed divinity of some fairy tale dead jew.
taniwha_is_waiting : You failed to prove that claim.
seraphina22 : Well it's troubling for some Christians to accept that even Muslims recognize much of the Old Testament.
taniwha_is_waiting : Suck on that, staingirl.
jfirebird1 : they will be coming around ..
indondasani : ondo; you will never have my cookie, you american imperialist swine!
gremlin_net : is back
gremlin_net : Back.
deahca2 : sure, scotsman. To say that our ancestors were angels is just ridiculous
taniwha_is_waiting : Bam.
seraphina22 : So you're denying that the life of Jesus had a profound effect on the world, Tani?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:01:18 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
indondasani : starts talking about how ondo is going to die trying to get his cookie as he walks away with it.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ :))
ondoher2 : deploys 200,000 troops to indon's back yard
gremlin_net : seraphina22 is a known fraud.
scotsmanmatt : deahca: But they were acting on behalf of Yahweh right?
colorofjanuary : hola grem
jfirebird1 : looking for answers they will be chasong u down
jfirebird1 : oops
deahca2 : WArs were fought, many atrocities attributed to G ( the Lord) that were not. The difference, I think scotsman is that we can admit it, and move on and we DON'T take our scirptures as literal
ondoher2 : points missles at his kitchen
indondasani : notes that 200,000 troops won't fit in his back yard.
seraphina22 : Hey Gremlin...have you ever been fucked? I mean REALLY fucked. Hard?
taniwha_is_waiting : I'm denying that the supposed "life" of some dead jew did. The mythos built up around this mythical dead jew sure has fucked up the world, but this is not "divinity". You claimed divinity, and did not prove it. you lose. Amazingly.
taniwha_is_waiting : Shitstain.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:02:07 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
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indondasani : ondo; hey, that means I don't have to mow the lawn again.
deahca2 : To say that we our ancestors DID NOT wage war and commit atrocities in the name of G would be a lie.
seraphina22 : Oh how devastating..I have lost a battle with the Great Tani. How will I ever find the will to go on.
ondoher2 : indon: they will eat your lawn
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Indon, it means mowing the lawn would now require you to wear goggles :P
scotsmanmatt : deahca: So you pick and choose which parts of the Tanakh you believe in?
deahca2 : scotsman, read above. I said that we do NOT take the bible literally as Christians do
indondasani : kitty; no, that many army men will simply cause the grass to die from lack of light.
deahca2 : And NO, I DON'T take Exodus literally either
taniwha_is_waiting : sera: Hopefully, you'll just leave the room and never come back until you grow up and lose the imaginary friends of theism, kiddie.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ true
scotsmanmatt : deahca: So the Jews were not given the commandments by Moses?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:03:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deahca2 : So, if Moses DID do that, he did it and would have had to answer to the Lord about that
seraphina22 : Well, I had planned on leaving, but now that you have professed hope in it, I think I'll stay.
agn0stic_and_atheist : è dances around the room provocatively.
gremlin_net : Moses never existed. Most scholars agree on that.
hunter_the_crazychick : is back
hunter_the_crazychick : Arrgh.
deahca2 : I think he did, scotsman, but , not the way it was written
seraphina22 : You didn't answer my question, Gremlin.
indondasani : lol kitty!
ondoher2 : later all
deahca2 : He may not have, gremlin.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: what question.
seraphina22 : Hey Gremlin...have you ever been fucked? I mean REALLY fucked. Hard?
indondasani : bye, ondo.
scotsmanmatt : deahca: So what makes you think he did considering you don't think the Exodus happened?
deahca2 : I think he did, but, what do I know? I don't take it literally to begin with
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:04:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gremlin_net : seraphina22: I'm not paying much attention to you anymore, now that you're a known fraud and admitted troll.
taniwha_is_waiting : sera: Typical theist. Brainless and gutless. You really show your true colors. No wonder your kind has turned the world to SHIT. I applaud you for ruining mankind like a fecal virus, theist.
seraphina22 : So that's a no, th en?
gremlin_net : seraphina22: need to know basis.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ I have more that are funny, indon
deahca2 : scotsman, the story about Exodus is IMO the beginnings of Judaism the religion. Mostly allegory
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : collects political ventings of right wing whackos
seraphina22 : Hey, I'll take applaud anywhere I can get it, Tani. Thanks.
comma2be : Suzzie Qenqella
scotsmanmatt : What value is Judaism? No character in it had to exist....no action in it can be taken literally...
kenboyred : God is real, says so in the Bible
indondasani : kitty; I take it this site is packed with them?
kenboyred : The Bible is truth, god says so
taniwha_is_waiting : sera: Yeah, shortbus kids like you like to clap and sing "wheels on the bus"
scotsmanmatt : Why have a Tanakh at all
truthisfalse : ken...the bible is me?
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Yeah.
truthisfalse : wow...where are my royalties?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:05:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ www.coxandforkum.com is better.
kenboyred : I didn't say it's truthisfalse
kenboyred : I said it was truth
deahca2 : What value is Judaism? I'll ask you , what value is Christianity, no character in it had to exist. I doubt that Jesus even existed, personally
kenboyred : silly
seraphina22 : You're just getting funnier by the minute, Tani. Do you write your own material? Seriously..you should consider an on stage career.
truthisfalse : ken...that's my first name!
truthisfalse : lol
comma2be : Kenn I think that Jesus is the way the truth and the life
indondasani : 's mom subscribes to something called "Slate cartoons".
scotsmanmatt : deahca: In Christian theology Jesus did HAVE to exist.
deahca2 : JUdaism to me is a support system for my beleif in the Lord
indondasani : they're quite funny.
taniwha_is_waiting : Slate rocks.
colorofjanuary : haha kenboyred
comma2be : coma?
truthisfalse : deah :x how are you my canadian love?
trentonator : right
deahca2 : Well, that's debatable. There is no definitive proof that Jesus existed, after all.
scotsmanmatt : No christ = no resurrection = faith in vain
kenboyred : *
agn0stic_and_atheist : è Book X says the content of book X is true, therefore Book X has true content....nope.
kenboyred : *Comma
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:06:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
colorofjanuary : wonders if jjj is nude
comma2be : I love you all
taniwha_is_waiting : Deah: And even less that your god is real. But your fellows are sure as hell happy to murder thousands over claims that some fairy tale god "gave" them some desert
deahca2 : But, if that's your faith, Scotsman, I have no problem with it. None of my business
scotsmanmatt : deahca: Are you incapable of reading..I'm not talking about whether he did or did not exist..but informing you of the difference between Judaism and Christianity
indondasani : knows that if faith changes you to be a better person, it's hardly in vain.
truthisfalse : color :x only from the waist down
deahca2 : I"ve never claimed proof of the existence or non existence of the Lord, tani. BAck up!
comma2be : Why is there so Much Doubt
colorofjanuary : jjj! the way it should be!!
scotsmanmatt : and so another Jew hides behind their blind faith in the light of it being rationally challenged
deahca2 : I claim my belief in G only
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:07:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
taniwha_is_waiting : deah: You believe in that lord. That lord which is such an easy excuse for hawks to roll bulldozers over children.
kenboyred : comma, if you'd like to engage in conversation and debate, I'd suggest you lower your font
zsa_zsa_galore2002 : ugh
lythslament : yeti-Grand Unfied theories...developed by QPers. Said nothing about field theory.
agn0stic_and_atheist : è eww
comma2be : ok
deahca2 : Yes, blind faith. With no evidence, all ANYONE has is faith and hope, scotsman. Might as well get used to that
comma2be : you want to talk
taniwha_is_waiting : kenboyred: Comma has no interest in conversation or debate, merely religious fascism and mindrape
gremlin_net : scotsmanmatt: rationally challenged by whom?
agn0stic_and_atheist : è I have faith that the next cup of tea I make will be a nice one.
kenboyred : comma, sure
scotsmanmatt : deahca: I wouldn't embrace any religion on blind faith for it is useless
deahca2 : ROFL, if G told someone to roll over people with bulldozers, you know more than I do, tani
kenboyred : what would you like ot talk about
tabula_rasa_0000 : well. deah,,there is also sciencee
seraphina22 : Tani...are you the incarnate of that Remedy character from earlier?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:08:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
seraphina22 : You guys sound exactly the same.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Personally... I'd rather be wrong than right if being right means being wrong
deahca2 : scotsman with no definitive proof of Jesus, you too are going on blind faith
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Er. Shoot that made no sense.
truthisfalse : missing posts! :-(
indondasani : kitty; way end?
gremlin_net : As a matter of fact, Jesus never existed. Christianity is as blind a faith as any.
seraphina22 : I don't think any historians doubt that Jesus the man existed.
indondasani : blinks.
agn0stic_and_atheist : è kitty - I understood the sentiment.
deahca2 : I have no problem with science tabula. In fact, I wouldn't like my life WITHOUT science
yeticock : ?
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Good agnostic :P
scotsmanmatt : deahca: Definitive proof of Jesus is not required..only the preporendance of evidence in his favour.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ I just
deahca2 : I do, sera.
tabula_rasa_0000 : excellent....
taniwha_is_waiting : deahca: It's rather simple. Israelis claim God gave them some land. That means they have to defend it and kick others off it because the big bad skydaddy gave it to them. So they roll up armored bulldozers to crush people who live there, so they can put Other people who are of the "Correct" religion and "race" there.
begs_to_be_sodomized : seraphina22: it's down the line.
deahca2 : IN fact, there has NEVER been definitive proof that Jesus existed
begs_to_be_sodomized : so don't categorise them all.
indondasani : you would rather be correct at harm to you than be wrong at your benefit?
taniwha_is_waiting : Therefore, "god" is the excuse used for the occupations and slaughter.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:09:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
agn0stic_and_atheist : è 'preponderance' - hmm, I'm gonna look that up.
gremlin_net : scotsmanmatt: right. Preponderance and some blind faith make it all work out.
taniwha_is_waiting : Lovely.
hunter_the_crazychick : waves at tani.
seraphina22 : I thought there were records of his birth in the census or something?
tabula_rasa_0000 : its true jesus may not have exisited
deahca2 : REally? How very knowledgable of you on Judaism. You must give me lessons
taniwha_is_waiting : Think of all the people who wouldn't be killed violently if your god wasn't used like a tool of death.
taniwha_is_waiting : Hunter!
taniwha_is_waiting : Hi
yeticock : lyth what did he unify?
taniwha_is_waiting : Sorry I haven't got to the post office yet. ;-(
deahca2 : I think you're running on empty there, tani.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Indon... basically..... I don't think lying to yourself and being delusional is the proper way, even if it makes you happier. Goes back to what you and I talked about before. I'd rather die standing than live on my knees.
hunter_the_crazychick : tani: that's fine.
seraphina22 : Well, Tani..think of what it means to die if you believe in God..with that way of thinking, it is not cruel for God to kill.
deahca2 : If you have any proof that G told Israel to run over people with bulldozers, please provide it.
taniwha_is_waiting : deah: Actually, it's called "History". Not something you theists can look out directly, you always need to bring along your Religion-Colored Glasses
agn0stic_and_atheist : è predominance of influence - and that's enough?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:10:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
truthisfalse : deah...i have the contract...is that proof?
hunter_the_crazychick : tani: it's not like I check our box every day. IN fact, I get the mail at the house *about* once a week.
agn0stic_and_atheist : è [rolls eyes]
deahca2 : History?
trentonator : no!!!
deahca2 : You have proof of what G said in history?
taniwha_is_waiting : Deah: I just gave you the pattern. Israel claims "god says this land is ours, not yours, so get off." They "defend" that land violently, using the god as an excuse.
comma2be : Hi Trenton
deahca2 : Well, well, you're the first. Drag it out
begs_to_be_sodomized : Yahoo is annoying *yawns*
hunter_the_crazychick : "Best Taste by April 21 03"
begs_to_be_sodomized : Jan :X
trentonator : hi comma
deahca2 : patterns are not proof, tani. Sorry, that is an empty statement
comma2be : how are you?
magic_lemures : X old man, eye of ewe, please don't stay away or I shall die
trentonator : hey dusty
agn0stic_and_atheist : è God said "Where am I, what is this place, where's the bloody light switch!"
taniwha_is_waiting : Deah, while your twisting is admirable, I claimed that "god" was the REASON - not that your idiotic fairy tale lie of a god actually "told" anyone to kill. Fairy tales don't tell anyone anything, because they are not real.
deahca2 : You ASSUME that is what is happening with no proof. BLIND FAITH?
seraphina22 : Plus, I read a book narrated by Satan. He was talking about all of the atrocities he's caused over the years...The Crusades..Nazi Germany..He said about them.."I was there..but my victory wasn't all of the death and suffering I caused..My victory came in all of the people left wondering 'How could God do this?'"
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:11:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
seraphina22 : Think about that.
gremlin_net : Hunter: if you drink it faster than light, it should be okay....
irrefragabilis : HEY someone tell deadman to follow yeticock
comma2be : that's me
taniwha_is_waiting : What is empty, deah, is your religion of death, occupation, and hate.
irrefragabilis : And lyth
colorofjanuary : tongue-twiddles vulpie's labia
deahca2 : as I said before Tani, I don't take the bible literally.
deahca2 : so don't bother with that.
hunter_the_crazychick : sprawls.
begs_to_be_sodomized : seraphina22; Damn you're full of shit. Read Michael Hakeem, Phd in History that puts all those issues back on Christianity.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : isn't eloquent
comma2be : Jesus loves you
deahca2 : And History ? You have proof of what G said in history? drag it out. I think we'd all like to see that
colorofjanuary : hunter_the_crazychick: what is it that you're drinking that is expired?
seraphina22 : Well who's Michael Hakeem? A Satanist?
taniwha_is_waiting : Well, hunter, I'll try and get everythin' in the post shortly, but I've been lazy.
seraphina22 : That means nothing to me.
hunter_the_crazychick : color: Frappuccino.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:12:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
comma2be : I love you too
colorofjanuary : hunter_the_crazychick: it's been kept cold?
gremlin_net : Jo: seraphina22 is a total troll. She slides about from christianity to judaism to atheism just to get negative attention.
deahca2 : You ASSUME that G told Israel to run peoople over with bulldozers? Back that statement up with proof
deahca2 : I"d love to see it
hunter_the_crazychick : color: as far as i can tell; we just got it at the store.
deadman_932 : HAH
begs_to_be_sodomized : Shes lying too, Grem.
irrefragabilis : trenton
deadman_932 : there's 2 rooms now
begs_to_be_sodomized : Joseph :X
agn0stic_and_atheist : è kitty - I liked it first time round.
seraphina22 : Lying about what?
agn0stic_and_atheist : è :-)
deadman_932 : josephine:x
seraphina22 : Lying about a quote I read in a book?
gremlin_net : Jo: that goes without saying.
taniwha_is_waiting : deah: once again, dear, weakminded theist, since your god is a lie and a fairy tale, it cannot 'say' anything.
begs_to_be_sodomized : Assertion about HISTORY.
irrefragabilis : dead : now we can tell people who bitch to go to room 2
colorofjanuary : hunter_the_crazychick: you'll live, then. i just finished a gallon of milk yesterday that had been expired since may 3.
gremlin_net : Jo: she's also occasionally the messiah.
seraphina22 : I was quoting a book, loser.
deahca2 : <,always sees proof with interst
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:13:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
begs_to_be_sodomized : seraphina22: No you werent, LIAR.
taniwha_is_waiting : While it's admirable of you to ATTEMPT to make a debate with me, by strawmanning a separate claim from what I actually MADE, you are doing so in the most craven way possible.
taniwha_is_waiting : Typical of your theism.
irrefragabilis : mark could go to room 2 also
seraphina22 : Anyway
Fastillion : begs_to_be_sodomized, I want to fondle you through your panties
seraphina22 : I love it when I get attacked. It just lets me know I'm on the right track.
seraphina22 : Never settle for the path of least resistance, my friends.
taniwha_is_waiting : Let's review what I actually claimed: "Deah: And even less that your god is real. But your fellows are sure as hell happy to murder thousands over claims that some fairy tale god "gave" them some desert" and "deah: You believe in that lord. That lord which is such an easy excuse for hawks to roll bulldozers over children."
irrefragabilis : David koresh was attacked
deahca2 : weak minded theist? I'm not the one that is making these statement. That the word of G is in history , that G told the Israeli's to run people over with bulldozers, Where is your proof? I don't take YOUR word for it. Produce the evidence
irrefragabilis : Was he right?
gremlin_net : seraphina22: good logic. 'everyone thinks I'm an idiot; I must be correct!'
hunter_the_crazychick : color: ew.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:14:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
begs_to_be_sodomized : Hello, honey :X
begs_to_be_sodomized : >> seraphina22 : I don't think any historians doubt that Jesus the man existed.
deahca2 : You see, tani, in debate, when you make a statement, you are EXPECTED to provide proof of it
agn0stic_and_atheist : è From the premise that God doesn't exist, He is only a "lie" when promoted dishonestly, otherwise it is mere error of judgement.
taniwha_is_waiting : I claimed "Israelis use their god as an excuse to kill with bulldozers".
deahca2 : Assumptions and accusations just don't constitue proof
colorofjanuary : hunter_the_crazychick: it wasn't *spoiled*. it just said "best if used by".
scotsmanmatt : begs_to_be_sodomized: Robert Price does...although I'm not too sure about his qualifications
seraphina22 : Like I said..fuck logic.
seraphina22 : But you still didn't answer my question from earlier.
gremlin_net : Jo: it's not a matter of doubt; it's a matter of fact. In point of fact, the guy didn't exist.
taniwha_is_waiting : you see, deah, in debate, you cannot strawman and attempt to disprove "X" when I claimed "Y".
begs_to_be_sodomized : It's down the line, Matt.
seraphina22 : Fuck facts.
taniwha_is_waiting : It's a failure on your part.
hunter_the_crazychick : color: I suppose. But still *shudders*.
seraphina22 : Why are you so preoccupied with facts?
deahca2 : I think if you scroll up you DID make that implication Tani. and I think we ALL can scroll up and see it in your posts. CARE TO SCROLL UP/
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:15:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : That date is like, majyque or something.
colorofjanuary : hunter_the_crazychick: broke college students make do. ;)
deadman_932 : hahaha, damn those pesky facts
taniwha_is_waiting : Now, if you want to claim, deah, that I said "God told Israel to use bulldozers", you go get that quote and paste it here, kiddo. We'll wait.
begs_to_be_sodomized : *laughs*
indondasani : ok, then.
taniwha_is_waiting : You can copy and paste it here if you want.
hunter_the_crazychick : nods at color.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: because I'm a scientist. Why are you so preoccupied with lying?
trentonator : dusty, can you see mark?
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Ahem.
seraphina22 : Because I'm a woman
indondasani : kitty; I don't view things as ends and means.
irrefragabilis : I can now
deadman_932 : oh, those pestilent "facts"
trentonator : ok
irrefragabilis : ty
deahca2 : Strawman? I am answering your statements and asking for proof, which YOU are not providing. IN debate, as I said, when YOU make the statement, YOU must provide proof.
begs_to_be_sodomized : *laughs* having a twat constitutes your right to lie?
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Indon, your response?
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Ah well neither do I>
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ .
gremlin_net : seraphina22: not all women lie. Just the dumb, ugly ones.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Dusty
begs_to_be_sodomized : What the fuck is it made out of? Gold?
agn0stic_and_atheist : è seraphina22 - I don't think I've seen you make one coherent statement yet. But there's hope.
indondasani : All actions have effects. That's it. One takes actions that have the most effects towards one's objective.
tabula_rasa_0000 : excuse me deah...what does a belief in god provide you with?
seraphina22 : But all jokes aside, lying and stating ones beliefs hardly fall into the same category.
hunter_the_crazychick : snorts.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:16:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Yes course.
tabula_rasa_0000 : why believe??
deahca2 : If a strawman is asking you to provide your proof or at least sources for your assertations, this is news to me
indondasani : one does not take actions that cumulatively work against one's objective indirectly.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : gigglefits
seraphina22 : Actually, some of the biggest liars I know are beautiful women.
taniwha_is_waiting : Deah: You have failed to prove that I actually said "God told Israel to kill with bulldozers". I have successfully shown that what I claimed was "Israel uses the jewish God as an excuse for occupation and slaughter."
taniwha_is_waiting : You lose.
deahca2 : Why does it have to provide me with anything tabula?
gremlin_net : seraphina22: so? You're not stating beliefs. You've stated various competing beliefs all day. You're trolling and you're full of shit.
deadman_932 : well, you fit ONE of those
deahca2 : Do you think people have a belief in G for some kind of reward? I don't
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ One's objective isn't always clear.
seraphina22 : Define "trolling"
begs_to_be_sodomized : which one? biggest or liar?
taniwha_is_waiting : You cannot demand I prove or back up "Q" when I never claimed "Q", but claimed "X".
taniwha_is_waiting : You lose, deah.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:17:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
begs_to_be_sodomized : Fastillion?
yeticock : Mark cant u shorten your speeches they begin to sound like mindless babblle after the 1st 3 minutes
deadman_932 : ummm...i'd choose the latter
seraphina22 : And I think you must have missed when I stated my official stance on my beliefs
Fastillion : yes, Precious?
tabula_rasa_0000 : well it must provide you with something otherwise there is not usefull
yeticock : lol
deahca2 : You made the statement , tani, back it up.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: posting bullshit in order to get a reaction; trolling for negative attention.
indondasani : if one can not clearly understand how to achieve one's objective, then the wisest action would be to learn.
deahca2 : The assertation is THERE, tani, scroll up and see if I'm wrong. I'm not. So back that up.
Fastillion : begs_to_be_sodomized, be bad so I can wash your mouth out with cock
begs_to_be_sodomized : I have a hangover *sighs* will you spank me?
taniwha_is_waiting : You're wrong.
tabula_rasa_0000 : exuse my grammer
seraphina22 : Naw. That's not what I'm doing.
agn0stic_and_atheist : è tabula_rasa_0000 - Gods, and religion generally, can provide both cultural and psychological values to the believers.
taniwha_is_waiting : The assertation iss not there, as much as you'd like it.
seraphina22 : I'd much rather have someone agree with me.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Indon, it's not that simple.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ seraphina22, this http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mtroll.html is what a troll is
deahca2 : Then Tani, scroll up and cut and paste, I'm sure we all want to see it
begs_to_be_sodomized : oh damn hahaha
taniwha_is_waiting : Deah, I did.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:18:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deahca2 : Well cut it and paste it dear, and we will see
taniwha_is_waiting : I cut and paste the original statement already. YOu ignored it out of convenience, much as you ignore anything that proves your faith dangerous.
indondasani : kitty; if circumstances force one to take an action without understanding entirely one's problem, then you simply make the best choice availible to you with your given information.
taniwha_is_waiting : If you wish to prove me wrong, you cut and paste yourself, dear.
deahca2 : At no time did I EVER imply that G would tell any Israeli to run people over with bulldozers. To even imply that would be beyond me. Was that a figment of my imagination?
tabula_rasa_0000 : actually tani..the faith ins
taniwha_is_waiting : Or why not just go for the big guns, since you've lost all the reasonable steps of debate, why not just go for the BFG and call me an "antisemite"?
taniwha_is_waiting : lol
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:19:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
taniwha_is_waiting : I mean, since you lost the rational debate against me
indondasani : kitty; that guy made Spider-man waaay too muscular.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: I don't care what your 'official stance on [your] beliefs' are. You've posted that you believe Jesus existed, that he was a deity, that no deities exist, that deities other than the christian deities exist, and so on. You're a fucking troll, posting anything you think will get people to hate you. Mostly because you've given up on having people actually like you. Hatred, to you, is better than apathy. So you go looking for it. Bad news for you: no one cares about you either way, you fucking troll.
deahca2 : ROFL, tani. When you become rational, we will debate
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Oh wow. I just realized something. I automatically assume person with a certain sort of attitude is female.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Indon... not everyone lives for results.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ But you get the point.
deahca2 : You're gettting much too hysterical
tabula_rasa_0000 : the faith is not dangerous..its the peoples actions..and faith is just the 'reason'
comma2be : billygraham.com
seraphina22 : Let me just reiterate my stance..True, I have had various stances over the years. Currently, I'm choosing to believe in some kind of higher power because it makes me feel good. Right or wrong..true or false...I like it. And if I'm right..I'll have a great reward waiting for me when I die. If I'm wrong..oh well. I haven't lost anything.
comma2be : www.
taniwha_is_waiting : deah: I never implied that a fictional god told anyone to use bulldozers. i said the Israelis used your god as an excuse to do so. YOU claimed I said the former, when I really said the latter. Bob and weave, deah, bob and weave.
deahca2 : Are you tani? why bring it up?
indondasani : kitty; but everyone _does_ live for results... even if they don't have any big objective with them.
deahca2 : Do you wish to muddy my name by implying that I did?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:20:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
seraphina22 : Yes..I can argue in favor of, or against Christianity, because I have been on both sides of the fence.
indondasani : people want to be happy, or wise, or have fun and food and sex and listen to rock music...
deahca2 : I have no way of knowing if you're an anti-semite or not
indondasani : shrugs.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: and I've already shown you what's wrong with Pascal's Losing Wager; you just ignored it and kept on trolling. http://pascal.grem.tv
seraphina22 : I don't know what that is
indondasani : everyone has objectives in life they work towards. But in humanity you can find, as it were, every objective under the sun.
colorofjanuary : smiles
agn0stic_and_atheist : è I live because I want to see Alien 9 "Aliens do Dallas"
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Indon, results in a sense, indon. But not quite what I was speaking of, we're talking about different things, I think.
deahca2 : that is much like asking " are you still beating your wife" tani. and hardly a reasonable way to debate
gremlin_net : seraphina22: that's because you're a sophistic moron. GO LEARN SHIT.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:21:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
seraphina22 : I'm sure I know shit you don't.
indondasani : kitty; well, not everyone works _directly_ towards what they want...
hunter_the_crazychick : If I"m wrong, I"m out nothing; if I'm right, then yay me, and too bad for you. Pascal's wager.
colorofjanuary : is going to end up getting into an evo vs creationism debate with one of her friends...
taniwha_is_waiting : Deah: You're right. Your cowardly game of strawman WAS indeed an unreasonable way to debate. Thank you for apologizing.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: really? Teach me something I don't know.
enki_in_the_abzu : tani.....you two havent even debated anything at all yet.....you have spent too much time arguing stupid semantics.....but if its any consolation, i think if you asked the people who read your post in question, you would probably find that most, as i myself do, would say that they took your post to ascert the same thing deah read into it....
indondasani : some objectives can only be obtained as a side effect of other objectives.
seraphina22 : Well what's so bad about that then..?
deadman_932 : seems to me that grem is absolutely right. i had thought that seraphina (at first) was defending her faith. she's not. she's a male polspin seeking attention and nothing more
seraphina22 : The Pascal thing.
taniwha_is_waiting : sera: The names of the members of N'Sync don't count.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Indon, not everyone has something that they want to be. I mean, obviously the only person I can speak of is myself.... and I don't have something I'm working towards.
indondasani : some people don't know a way to work directly or effeciently towards what they want.
agn0stic_and_atheist : è Pascal's Wager is an advocation of fraudulent belief.
tabula_rasa_0000 : lol enki..right on the money!
taniwha_is_waiting : sera: LOL. What's so bad about pascal's wager? HILARIOUS!
indondasani : some people even have conflicting wants.
deahca2 : OH yes, it was my strawman when YOU brought it up. The Israelites somehow run people over with bulldozers because G somehow told them to do it. sure, right
hunter_the_crazychick : seraphina22: well, it's retarded. And that link kinda shows you why it's retarded.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: I know about the Pascal thing. You don't. You can't teach me about that. Fraud.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:22:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
taniwha_is_waiting : deah: Not what I claimed. You screwed up again, pickles.
deahca2 : That would certainly not be a statement that I would bring up. LOL
deadman_932 : Problems with pascal's wager:
Fallacy One: It assumes that there is only one god which can be believed in, the Christian one.
Fallacy Two: It assumes that simply wagering on [the Christian] God will buy one entrance into Heaven
Fallacy Three: It creates a moral dilemma. You, by using this, are sending the most dedicated humanitarians, who just happen to not be Christian, to Hell
Fallacy Four: It ignores too many alternate possibilities - some of which are addressed by existing religions, and some which are not. Some examples: A God could reward on criteria which seem meaningless to us - hair colour, taste in clothes, music etc. or A God might not be concerned with humans at all. Or God may even reward those who don't believe.
Fallacy Five: It assumes any person is fearful of death
seraphina22 : Why sh ould anybody give a shit what I believe if it makes me happy?
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ I have tiny little 'results' that I want. But that's not what I was speaking of
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ But I am weird. I don't like being happy, so yeah, I'm weird.
seraphina22 : What sweat is that off of your back?
deadman_932 : there are other problems
tabula_rasa_0000 : deah you obviously believe that people do all kinds of henious acts in the name of god..dont you?
irrefragabilis : is away (away)
deahca2 : of course, if that's what you constitute a "win" in debate, then, I suppose, you're just not too good at this
taniwha_is_waiting : Deah: What I claimed was that they use God as an excuse for that; not that this fairy tale god actually told them anything. For it to have told them anything, it would have to be real, but it's not, so it can't. Fucking moron.
deahca2 : You bet your arse I do, tabula
hunter_the_crazychick : seraphina22: I don't know; why the fuck are you pascals wagering us into trying to get us to believe in your higher power?
seraphina22 : I'm not.
taniwha_is_waiting : -:Has Conclusively Spanked Down Deah's pissant troll strawman game
tabula_rasa_0000 : so thats all tani is saying
seraphina22 : Why the fuck are you trying to make me not believe?
indondasani : dead; fallacy 3 really isn't a fallacy, and 1 and 4 are pretty much the same point.
hunter_the_crazychick : seraphina22: really? Then why are you TELLING US ABOUT IT?
gremlin_net : seraphina22: why don't care what you believe. We care what you annoy us with.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:23:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deahca2 : But, that does not mean it's true. To blame G is the easiest thing in the world to do. G NEVER answers, LOL
tabula_rasa_0000 : thats not what he said
hunter_the_crazychick : seraphina22: who's trying to make you do anything? Nobody in here even thinks you're capable of basic comprehension.
deahca2 : Yes, tani, in your eyes YOU WIN. hooray! ROFL
gremlin_net : seraphina22: begging the question; strawman; criminal trolling; die in a fire.
taniwha_is_waiting : tabula: The rules of Deah are "1: My god is real, no matter what, don't question it", and "2: I'm always right, or you're an antisemite."
tabula_rasa_0000 : he said people killed in the name of god
deadman_932 : telling people who are not christian that they are going to hell is a fallacy
deadman_932 : that's #3
tabula_rasa_0000 : its nothing new..
seraphina22 : You know what I like about you guys? Your only strategy is belittling people.
gremlin_net : Okay. I gave all deities about two hours to change the lightbulb. I'm doing it myself. Behold and repent.
deahca2 : ROFL, at NO time did I say that G is real. In fact, I've said on numerous occasions that a belief is all you get in the matter of G. Belief is all there is.
tabula_rasa_0000 : jews, christians, muslims
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Deah is a she. And people do kill in the name of God.
taniwha_is_waiting : kitty: True. I don't care, however.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:24:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
seraphina22 : That's ingenious. I mean..seriously. When all else fails..bring out the juvenile insults.
taniwha_is_waiting : sera: you make it so easy by being so small
hunter_the_crazychick : seraphina22: really? Our only strategy? so why are you doing it? That comment in itself is belittlement; awfully hypocritical of you.
seraphina22 : What makes me stupid and small?
taniwha_is_waiting : deah: You claimed I said something I didn't. Why should I not return the favor?
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Well, you just said that as if it was something she said.
deadman_932 : and one and 4 are not the same
indondasani : gremlin; why would a deity want to change a lightbulb? most can see in the dark.
seraphina22 : Why am I such an idiot?
deahca2 : and antisemite? At no time did I ask or state that you are an anti-semite. I have no way of knowing that. The implications are insulting but you have provided no proof of either of those statements
taniwha_is_waiting : deah: You were happy to claim I said something I didn't, so I returned the favor
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:25:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deahca2 : You just did, tani. I beg to differ. and you also stated a lie about my beliefs. Deal with it
taniwha_is_waiting : Deah: Or is it only OK when YOU do it, mon frere?
hunter_the_crazychick : seraphina22: easy. Your hypocrisy. Your dishonesty. You yourself understand that, but you don't dare admit it, because it flies in the face of your drug habit turned faith based desperation.
seraphina22 : On what basis are you calling me dishonest?
seraphina22 : I'm alot of th ings..liar is not one of them.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ The word is a lot, seraphina22.
hunter_the_crazychick : seraphina22: if you truly didn't care what others believed, or whether we believed or not, you would /not/ be in here saying 'if I'm right'.
enki_in_the_abzu : im still waiting to see any semblance of this debate that tani has claimed to have won.....
tabula_rasa_0000 : but again deah...why believe in god? what does it provide that i cant get somewhere else?
trentonator : ahah yeti
deadman_932 : seraphina, you have made mutually contradictory statements, you have made false claims...those are LIES
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:26:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
seraphina22 : For example?
begs_to_be_sodomized : >> seraphina22 : I don't think any historians doubt that Jesus the man existed.
taniwha_is_waiting : enki: it was over at the first fallacy from Deah.
deahca2 : Your implications on the bulldozer being a direct commandment of G, and well as your implication, dammit, downright lie about my belief in G, and your lie about me calling you an anti-semite, think you're not too good at this debate thing. Give it up.
deadman_932 : seraphina, grem has POSTED your lies and false claims
begs_to_be_sodomized : You thought wrong.
indondasani : begs; some do.
seraphina22 : I beileve that to be true, Sodomize. How does that make me a liar?
enki_in_the_abzu : you mean the argument about your post?
deadman_932 : i have SEEN your mutually contradictory stances
taniwha_is_waiting : deah: At no time did i EVER claim that bulldozers were a DIRECT COMMANDMENT from GOD.
deahca2 : provide, Tabula.I ask again, why should it provide anything? I don't have my belief in G for any gain
hunter_the_crazychick : seraphina22 : You know what I like about you guys? Your only strategy is belittling people. <-- in itself hypocritical. A sanctimonious statement made in judgement of others. Worse, a *blanket statement*.
begs_to_be_sodomized : As I've said before, twice, and will again, it's down the middle.
hunter_the_crazychick : Very bad.
seraphina22 : I have never claimed to be associated with any organized religion.
taniwha_is_waiting : deah: While you conveniently claim so in order to push it over, you're simply using a strawman fallacy.
platonis_sallustius : brb
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:27:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deahca2 : The implication was quite clear, Tani.
seraphina22 : In fact..I have denied it time and time again.
tabula_rasa_0000 : then why blieve
seraphina22 : I can sympathize with all of them.
taniwha_is_waiting : deah: Only in your chickenshit eyes, deah.
deahca2 : If you read your statement, the implication is THERE. and completely dishonest
seraphina22 : I can sympathize with the devil, even.
taniwha_is_waiting : deah: Of course, I expect theists like you to read what you want into things out of convenience
deadman_932 : man
hunter_the_crazychick : seraphina22: shall I go all the way back to this morning when you came in preaching about how you went off faith and got on drugs, and then went back to god?
enki_in_the_abzu : in deah's defense, i pretty much thought you were implying that as well tani...
taniwha_is_waiting : deah: The implication is not there; but since you see imaginary shit all around, why not there too?
seraphina22 : Allow me
deahca2 : Chicken shit? hmmm, I'm not backing down. Do you wish to try to get me hysterical? sorry, it won't happen.
enki_in_the_abzu : and im an atheist
taniwha_is_waiting : lunatic.
deadman_932 : you're a troll, seraphina..and begging for attention
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Deah is not pushing her religion on anyone else, nor is she questioning anyone else's disbelief in God, what the hell is the problem?
deahca2 : lunatic? Because you're being caught in your implications. well, well.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: you're not a liar? We must have different definitions. I'd thought a liar was one who told falsehoods intentionally. Like when you claimed to be the messiah.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:28:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
taniwha_is_waiting : You're not backing down because you're delusional. You have the delusion 1) that your god is real, 2) that I said something that meant something else, 3) that elves live in your pants.
deahca2 : ad hominem seems to be quite a popular ruse for you, tani
indondasani : would say the problem is taniwha.
seraphina22 : Jesus, Mary & Joseph. You can't possibly tell me that you took me seriously.
deahca2 : Did you take lesson on it?
taniwha_is_waiting : Deah: But it's OK when you use it
gremlin_net : seraphina22: of course I didn't. But you lied.
taniwha_is_waiting : of course, when YOU use fallacies it's all okey fine, right deah?
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : is beginning to think so
taniwha_is_waiting : No one's allowed to call you on em.
seraphina22 : Oh..ok. I forgot. You're a SCIENTIST. You base everything on fact. So intent means nothing to you.
taniwha_is_waiting : you want to claim a strawman? That's OK. You're given special dispensation to, aren't you?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:29:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deahca2 : At no time did I call you a lunatic, a chicken shit or any other ad hominem. Now WHO did that, Tani?
taniwha_is_waiting : lOL
gremlin_net : seraphina22: if you really thought you were the messiah, you're merely an insane moron. If you didn't think so, but claimed to be anyway, then you're a liar.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Taniwha, ok. What is your disagreement with deah about? I missed the beginning of the argument
seraphina22 : It was a sarcastic remark.
taniwha_is_waiting : deah: I tossed out simple insults based on your amazing depth of stupidity and ignorance when reading a basic statement.
seraphina22 : Sarcasm...it's a useful tool in debates.
indondasani : gremlin; she could have been joking, and simply not very good at expressing the fact that she was joking.
taniwha_is_waiting : I make no bones about calling you on your delusion and fraudulent strawman games/
deahca2 : <
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:30:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gremlin_net : seraphina22: intent is a factor. You either thought you were the messiah or not. If so, you're a retarded psychopaht. If not, you're a retarded liar. Whether anyone but you believes your lies is immaterial.
seraphina22 : Thanks, Indon.
seraphina22 : Alrighty then
gremlin_net : indondasani: joking is still a form of lying.
taniwha_is_waiting : Kitty: I claimed that Israel, as a government/nation, uses the Jewish God as a convenient excuse for occupation, slaughter, etc - things like using armored bulldozers to crush civilians.
seraphina22 : There's no use arguing with you. It's useles..
seraphina22 : useless even
deahca2 : delusion? well, well, and WHAT do you think is YOUR credentials to pronounce delusions in me, Tani?
indondasani : gremlin; no, lying is with intent to be believed.
seraphina22 : but I repeat myself
deahca2 : convenient excuse? That was NOT the wording
taniwha_is_waiting : Kitty: Deah somehow imagined through Yahweh-colored glasses that what I said was 'God specifically orders Israel to crush people with bulldozers:.
indondasani : joking is with the inherent understanding that what you say is not meant to be taken as fact.
deahca2 : I suggest you scroll back and use the original
gremlin_net : indondasani: so it's possible she was merely trolling....
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:31:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
taniwha_is_waiting : Kitty: To claim so, I would have had to have believed that this god thing exists and is capable of communication.
seraphina22 : No..I was trying to make a point.
deadman_932 : one can joke and lie at the same time
taniwha_is_waiting : Kitty: And therefore, deah is strawmanning
indondasani : gremlin; if humor is trolling, then what would that make me?
indondasani : raises an eyebrow.
deadman_932 : one can use a veil of humor to lie
taniwha_is_waiting : Deah: I reposted the original. You refused to prove it wrong. you couldn't.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: okay. I'll allow that. If you lied without the intent of convincing people, you're merely a retarded troll.
seraphina22 : Somebody said "If Jesus came in here and started chatting..then I would believe he existed." So I said.."Ok I'm Jesus." To prove that that wasn't enough proof.
tabula_rasa_0000 : retort deah???
taniwha_is_waiting : Deah: And even less that your god is real. But your fellows are sure as hell happy to murder thousands over claims that some fairy tale god "gave" them some desert
seraphina22 : But anyway
taniwha_is_waiting : deah: You believe in that lord. That lord which is such an easy excuse for hawks to roll bulldozers over children.
deadman_932 : one can use sarcasm and lie
colorofjanuary : can't get the YATTA! tune out of her head
taniwha_is_waiting : deahca2: ROFL, if G told someone to roll over people with bulldozers, you know more than I do, tani
indondasani : laughs at color.
taniwha_is_waiting : taniwha_is_waiting: deahca: It's rather simple. Israelis claim God gave them some land. That means they have to defend it and kick others off it because the big bad skydaddy gave it to them. So they roll up armored bulldozers to crush people who live there, so they can put Other people who are of the "Correct" religion and "race" there.
deahca2 : At no time have I ever seen any newspaper articles or media articles claiming that ANYONE in Israel said to use G as an excuse to bulldoze down people. Complete implication and completely untrue
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:32:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
indondasani : then pities color.
deahca2 : so, there it is.
gremlin_net : indondasani: trolling includes scoping for negative reactions. You don't do that. You just say funny things.
seraphina22 : I think you all have just totally misunderstood me
taniwha_is_waiting : There. I have reposted the original statements. Note the obvious difference between what I said and what Deah imagined.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Indon isn't a troll.
hunter_the_crazychick : I'll have to post seraphina22 to the board....
indondasani : gremlin; not being good at being funny doesn't make you a troll.
seraphina22 : You're so used to these "trolls" and "strawmen" that you repeatedly refer to, that you expect all of us to be that way.
indondasani : it just makes you not good at being funny.
colorofjanuary : just watches the room
gremlin_net : indondasani: seraphina22 [probably] knows what she did wrong. She claimed to be the messiah in a bombastic, melodramatic 'attempt' to appease her strawmen.
taniwha_is_waiting : Kitty: Does it make sense now?
deahca2 : At no time have I ever seen anyone in Israel say that G told them to bulldoze others down because G "gave" them the land. Complete rubbish. If you have ANY proof of that, I'd love to read it
hunter_the_crazychick : seraphina22: wow. You're dead wrong on everything, aren't you?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:33:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
seraphina22 : Maybe I am.
deadman_932 : an example of using humor to lie would be ...oh, a hillary clinton "joke" that implies she acknowledged and sanctioned her husband's affairs
taniwha_is_waiting : Deah: At no time have I claimed that Israelis say that God told them to bulldoze others.
a_lady_waits_for_her_lord : Jesus said unto them "And whom do you say that I am?" They Replied, “You are the eschatological manifestation of the ground of our being, the ontological foundation of the context of our very selfhood revealed." And Jesus replied "What?"
hunter_the_crazychick : seraphina22: you do realise that some people have actually archived this, and can look back and SEE you screaming about how real or not, jesus feels great, right?
taniwha_is_waiting : Deah: I have said that Israelis use their god as an excuse to do so.
hunter_the_crazychick : seraphina22: or is your shortterm memory THAT fucked?
seraphina22 : Actually it is.
indondasani : how exactly does one appease one's strawman?
taniwha_is_waiting : deah: When you want to discuss what I said instead of what you imagined through your persecution complex, let me know
seraphina22 : All that drug use, you know how it is.
gremlin_net : indondasani: by lying.
indondasani : and if one possesses a strawman, was it made by you, or about you?
hunter_the_crazychick : seraphina22: oh, so now you're claiming heavy drug use instead of just light, recreational use?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:34:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Ummmmm. Well. Taniwha I'd say that if I were Jewish I'd be offended... while religion is, of course, involved with the problems with Israel and Palestine... I don't think I've heard any Jewish or Israeli folk say, or show any sign that, their motives are sent by their God.
hunter_the_crazychick : seraphina22: fascinating. Might wanna keep that story straight.
taniwha_is_waiting : indon: Strawmen are made for 1970's horror movies... oh, wait, that's Wicker Men.
hunter_the_crazychick : seraphina22: remember, contradicting yourself is what got cfan in trouble for the 'raised from the dead' hoax.
indondasani : taniwha; what is a Wicker Man?
seraphina22 : Learn to recognize sarcasm.
taniwha_is_waiting : Indon: it's a totem from a 1970's horror movie.
indondasani : ...and interestingly, the Iron Maiden song randomly popped up on my Winamp just now.
hunter_the_crazychick : seraphina22: I recognise sarcasm, I just don't acknowledge it in the hands of the inept.
indondasani : taniwha; what's the name?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:35:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
taniwha_is_waiting : A giant statue made of wicker for human sacrifice in Cornwall.
hunter_the_crazychick : seraphina22: I just tend to laugh when the end up wounding themselves.
indondasani : ah!
taniwha_is_waiting : Indon - "The Wicker Man".
seraphina22 : Tell me again what makes you so far superior to me?
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ What you made was a politically charged comment, I can understand deah's disturbance at it.
deadman_932 : i saw that movie
gremlin_net : 'seraphina22 : You should give it a try though. Real or not..it feels GREAT.'
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ The Greenwitch, I thought that was called, taniwha
deadman_932 : pretty good, i thought..english, it was
hunter_the_crazychick : seraphina22: my ability to remember what I said twenty minutes ago.
indondasani : so THAT is what this song's about!
indondasani : is listening to "The Wicker Man", by Iron Maiden.
taniwha_is_waiting : kitty: I have indeed heard claims made that "God gave us this land, it's Israel, it's ours by our god, and we need to get the non-Jews off it."
taniwha_is_waiting : Kitty: Therefore, the claim is valid.
gremlin_net : 'seraphina22 : You should give [christianity] a try though. Real or not..it feels GREAT.'
seraphina22 : That and tha talone?
deahca2 : Have you indeed, Tani? Provide that proof please. I'd love to see that
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:36:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : seraphina22: nope.
taniwha_is_waiting : Deah: Read the Likud's 2002 statements.
deahca2 : YOur claim is just that a claim with no proof.
hunter_the_crazychick : seraphina22: I don't have to whore for attention in a chatroom, either.
taniwha_is_waiting : deah: Yes master.
deahca2 : If there is proof, produce it
hunter_the_crazychick : seraphina22: I don't claim 'being a woman' as my 'right to lie'.
seraphina22 : You guys are anal.
deahca2 : Where is that, Tani?
deahca2 : give the site.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ mmmm no. Claiming the land does
seraphina22 : And you have no sense of humor.
hunter_the_crazychick : seraphina22: we've got plenty of sense of humour; you're just not funny.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: and you have no sense of honesty.
deahca2 : until then, tani, your claims are only that. claims
seraphina22 : Normal people would have recognized me saying that as a joke.
deadman_932 : damn, if grem wanted to comb through logs to find lies, deception, misdirection, he could find lots, seraphina...but i have no doubt you'd excuse each one
indondasani : kitty; unless the land is made of children.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:37:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
seraphina22 : Whether they thought it was a good one or not.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Well, yeah, indon. *laughs*
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Which is isn't
gremlin_net : seraphina22: a joke? Maybe it's more of a joke in context....
indondasani : in which case you have to at least step on them to get home.
hunter_the_crazychick : seraphina22: real people would've realised that your incessant lying is done for personal entertainment?
seraphina22 : I haven't lied about anything.
deahca2 : much as you claimed that I called you an anti-semite and claimed that I said that my G is real. just claims
gremlin_net : seraphina22 : Something that has influenced the world more than any other single thing in the history of the planet..cannot be an "innocent mistake." Either it is real..or it was created by an evil force to lead us astray.
seraphina22 : I stand by that.
hunter_the_crazychick : seraphina22: You're not paying me for psychiatric help; I'm not required to study every nuance of your mental disturbances.
seraphina22 : I believe that.
gremlin_net : seraphina22 : You should give it a try though. Real or not..it feels GREAT.
seraphina22 : I stand by that as well.
taniwha_is_waiting : phone call
deadman_932 : of course not, seraphina... you're a female polspin..he says the same thing
gremlin_net : seraphina22 : Well..Zoran..not just that, necessarily. And I'm not just limiting it to Christianity..but belief in a higher power and an after life gives hope and meaning to an otherwise worthless life.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:38:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gremlin_net : Yeah. Clearly a joke. Fucking liar.
seraphina22 : I absolutely, 100% stand by that.
hunter_the_crazychick : dead: we should get them together. then polspin would beat this slut down....
indondasani : wonders what human society would be like if the surface of the earth were composed of immortal humans.
deadman_932 : he doesn't lie, you don't lie, you 're both delusional and trolls
indondasani : doubts cars would ever have been invented.
seraphina22 : So where are the lies? I'm still waiting.
hunter_the_crazychick : seraphina22: you stand by everything you've said, then?
seraphina22 : Absolutely.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: you absolutely 100% stand by your 'joke'?
deadman_932 : of course, you have an excuse for each one
seraphina22 : Except for something I said intended as a joke.
hunter_the_crazychick : seraphina22: oh. Good. So you stand by being a woman makes you 'allowed' to lie.
gremlin_net : seraphina22: you're a complete fucking idiot. Get off my screen.
seraphina22 : That was intended as a joke.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:39:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : seraphina22: oops.
hunter_the_crazychick : seraphina22: look. Right there. dishonesty.
seraphina22 : Gremlin: Right click my name and click "ignore"
gremlin_net : seraphina22 is a known fraud. Pass it on.
deadman_932 : tsk
seraphina22 : Gremlin is a miserable motherfucker. Pass it on.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ We'd probably treat it the same way we do now, actually, indon. Humans don't treat other humans very respectfully, in reality.
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: not much trouble. She'll probably wind up with an IotM nomination.
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ LOL
deadman_932 : it's sad when theists have to rely on such tactics
deahca2 : Sera, I did notice that, to be completely fair. I did think that some took your ribbing as an actual statement of your beliefs. Unfortunately for them, they didn't see the good natured ribbing
hunter_the_crazychick : seraphina22: actually, no, he's not. I'm not his mother, and he's not lousy at it, either.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:40:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
indondasani : kitty; heh.
seraphina22 : Brilliant comeback, Hunter.
colorofjanuary : the
deadman_932 : color:x
hunter_the_crazychick : seraphina22: it's called 'honesty'. You should figure it out.
colorofjanuary : the "screaming in two notes at once for an hour straight" comment comes to mind, hunter.
seraphina22 : Couldn't have done it better myself..But of course..you know that..because I'm inferior to you.
hunter_the_crazychick : blinks at color.
gremlin_net : It's one thing that a mental defective might forget its stance from several hours ago; it's another when the same moron claims to have been 'joking' two minutes before claiming to 'absolutely 100% stand by' the same 'joke'. But this isn't a fucking liar....
hunter_the_crazychick : Where'd you hear *that*.
deadman_932 : two notes at one time for an hour?
deadman_932 : my
deadman_932 : like a tibetan throat singer, eh?
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:41:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deahca2 : don't play into the hands of those that wish to make you hysterically angry, sera. Leave that for them
taniwha_is_waiting : Ah nice
colorofjanuary : hunter_the_crazychick: umm...it's in your idiot archive. you said it.
hunter_the_crazychick : Ohh.
hunter_the_crazychick : I was told to say that.
hunter_the_crazychick : *smiles*
hunter_the_crazychick : I'm actually *very* quiet.
taniwha_is_waiting : Hey Deah! Here's a nice article for you. In it, an interview in Israel has the interviewee stating that God gave Israel to the jews.
taniwha_is_waiting : ;-)
taniwha_is_waiting : Gotta love the BBC world service
hunter_the_crazychick : I was traumatised once. He said if I wasn't quiet, Denny might eat me.
gremlin_net : Jan: about the Idiot Archive, I think I've got everything the fraud said since 7.45 this morning in the logue.
seraphina22 : You don't know what you're talking about. I completely stand by every claim I've made about my beliefs. If they seem contradictory, it's because they are. I have no set beliefs.
deahca2 : It will invariably come to ad hominem attacks Sera of chicken shit and lunatic. of course, we both know how reliable their opinions on that are.
colorofjanuary : hahaha hunter. that's awesome1
begs_to_be_sodomized : is away (Away)
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:42:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : Denny = scary smelly wookie man.
seraphina22 : I have not lied about anything. I have made jokes. If you cannot distinguish jokes from factual statements, that's your problem .
gremlin_net : seraphina22 is about to become one of the more famous frauds on the 'net....
colorofjanuary : gremlin_net: EXCELLENT! let me know when that goes up...i'll have to read it. ;)
taniwha_is_waiting : lol deah
the_kitty_is_not_so_witty : ™ Just beucase someone says God gave them the land, does not mean they think God told them to bulldoze children!
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: probably not. She's duller than Brenton.
colorofjanuary : hehe hunter_the_crazychick: for some reason, this line always stuck in my head: evilcoffeechick: Inadequate compared to the last choice in the area being capable of making a woman scream in two notes at once for an hour straight....
gremlin_net : Hunter: not an issue. The question is whether the evidence will show that she's a liar, or just a retarded troll.
LOG DATA Fri, 30 May 2003 14:43:19 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
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