| 08 August 2003 at 10.52.49 ZuluTime
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Posted by Hunter [12.211.202.152 - 12-211-202-152.client.attbi.com] on 08 August 2003 at 10.52.49 ZuluTime:
nope_not_prince_hamlet :
hunter_the_crazychick : Lyth: I can kinda understand, but I can't, because I know of one that /isn't/ like that. The guy is allegedly /good/, and he splits his time between migraines and MS.
LOG DATA Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:14:32 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hello_my_name_is_josh : it starts out slow, and has really slow acceleration, but it will never stop accelerating
intelligence_vs_wisdom :
kalista_theraven : Hunter-That's the difference then. His own pain keeps him grounded in reality.
hello_my_name_is_josh : imagine traveling through space at just below the speed of light
hunter_the_crazychick : Lyth: I don't know if he has either, actually; I just know that's what he focuses on.
hello_my_name_is_josh : that isnt much of an achievement considering what is possible
kalista_theraven : Ah. I misread.
hunter_the_crazychick : Lyth: I worded badly.
hello_my_name_is_josh : but it is a huge step
LOG DATA Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:15:32 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
kalista_theraven : I apologize. I've been drinking a bit.
hunter_the_crazychick : Lyth: what I wouldn't /give/ for a doctor that suffered migraines.
nope_not_prince_hamlet : what do u mean it isnt much considering what is possible?
baron_von_lexicon :
amphicyonid : Anyone in here remember Rumanna?
kalista_theraven : Hunter-I imagine that there are some specialists out there that are worth a damn, but the majority..or in fact, all of them that I've encounterd could use a sound beating.
nope_not_prince_hamlet : traveling just below the speed of light will most likely never happen...and it isnt all that clear that it is possible frankly
hello_my_name_is_josh : well just about anything is possible, traveling at several times the speed of light for instance
LOG DATA Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:16:32 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hello_my_name_is_josh : we just dont have the means
hello_my_name_is_josh : at nasa
hello_my_name_is_josh : website
nope_not_prince_hamlet : it is not possible
kalista_theraven : Ummm..
hunter_the_crazychick : Lyth: or at least a little taste of what they're supposed to be caring about. But, since I can't have my wish without losing my soul to a badly-written-character-djinn from Wishmaster....
hello_my_name_is_josh : here i'll post the website
nope_not_prince_hamlet : u cant travel faster than the speed of light
xiphoid_thanatos : Biology for one gets in the way
alcyonian : is back
alcyonian : Rumana aka r0se_vixen?
kalista_theraven : I am going to pretend that I didn't read that bit about travelling faster than light.
amphicyonid : nope.....yeah, but people also were convinced the Earth was flat at one time too
kalista_theraven : hahaha Hunter
hello_my_name_is_josh : yes its still in testing procedures, but it has been in development for over 20 years
LOG DATA Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:17:32 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
nope_not_prince_hamlet : there may be some sort of 'wormhole' or something that would enable long distance space travel but how the hell can u travel, in a ship, faster than light, impossible
xiphoid_thanatos : If people insist on playing music they could at least pick something decent.
hello_my_name_is_josh : it wouldnt be in a ship
kalista_theraven : xiph-Oy, I have the best song..
nope_not_prince_hamlet : u can get a light beam to travel faster than light..sort of
kalista_theraven : I would play it, but it would lose something being played over Yahell voice.
xiphoid_thanatos : lyth; Oh? What is it?
gremlin_net :
gremlin_net : is offline/invisible.
hello_my_name_is_josh : it would be somewhat like teleportation
hunter_the_crazychick : keeps all her music on an entirely seperate computer.
marla_kram : If you stop your retarded talking I may stop sturm
gremlin_net : is on pager.
gremlin_net :
kalista_theraven : Legionnaires' Lament
nope_not_prince_hamlet : o comeon
xiphoid_thanatos : sturm; I couldn't hear it...just a lot of whistling
gremlin_net : Hello.
nope_not_prince_hamlet : too much star trek dude
LOG DATA Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:18:32 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin.
hello_my_name_is_josh : i believe anything is possible
amphicyonid : nope.....human beings running a mile in under 4 minutes was also thought impossible less than a century ago
xiphoid_thanatos : gremlin:)
xiphoid_thanatos : lyth; I don't know it:/
hello_my_name_is_josh : it has nothing to do with star trek
scratchispanda : is away (Auto-Away)
hello_my_name_is_josh : i hate star trek
bluegirl2483 :
xiphoid_thanatos : sturm :))
hunter_the_crazychick : prods Gremlin.
nope_not_prince_hamlet : teleportation? i assure you that nasa is not 20 years from developing a system of teleportation...maybe another 1000 years
gremlin_net : What....
xiphoid_thanatos : josh; Too much reading 'fortean times'.
LOG DATA Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:19:32 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
bradleyjones72 :
kalista_theraven : xiphoid-It is done by a little-known band called the Decemberists. It is sort of an indie version of a folky ballad.
bluegirl2483 : hi
scratchispanda :
xiphoid_thanatos : lyth; Okay, I will keep an eye out for it
hunter_the_crazychick : I was just discussing how shockingly /better/ the care I got from the nurse practitioners was compared to doctors that I've been to, recently....
kalista_theraven : xiph-Give me a moment.
scratchispanda :
hunter_the_crazychick : I just feel like sharing.
nope_not_prince_hamlet : doctors are assholes
nope_not_prince_hamlet : sometimes
bluegirl2483 : B-)
hello_my_name_is_josh : http://astp.msfc.nasa.gov/news/going.html
hello_my_name_is_josh : theres alot about it
LOG DATA Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:20:32 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : *inserts *discussing with lyth* or something.
scratchispanda : <::::::has no mic
xiphoid_thanatos : josh; And travelling faster than the speed of light is on that page also?
scratchispanda : or speakers
hello_my_name_is_josh : no
amphicyonid : nope......all we "know" about the going ons at NASA is what the government WANTS us to "know"....
gremlin_net : I'm going to start suing dumb people for making Advil bottles hard to open when you've got a headache....
xiphoid_thanatos : josh; Well where is your cite for that little gem
amphicyonid : which is not much
xiphoid_thanatos : please
xiphoid_thanatos : :)
nope_not_prince_hamlet : here's an interesting question...if you are teleported...say from point A to point B....are u still the same person when you come out at point B?
LOG DATA Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:21:32 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hello_my_name_is_josh : i never said that we have the means to
hunter_the_crazychick : I really have to wonder why doctors /have/ to exist if there are nurses out there permitted to prescribe things.
bluegirl2483 : hi
hello_my_name_is_josh : i said it was possible
hello_my_name_is_josh : i never quoted anything
gremlin_net : nope_not_prince_hamlet: you are if it's done right.
hello_my_name_is_josh : dont assume
xiphoid_thanatos : josh; So? Back it up
hello_my_name_is_josh : you what happens
nope_not_prince_hamlet : really grem?
scratchispanda :
bluegirl2483 : ;;)
kalista_theraven : nope-Impossible to know.
amphicyonid :
wheesledeek :
LOG DATA Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:22:32 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gremlin_net : nope_not_prince_hamlet: yeah. If every cubic yoctometre were perfectly encoded in reintegration, there'd be no diffrence.
nope_not_prince_hamlet : but if your teleported doesnt that involve destroying the material you are made of and recreating the same structure in another place out of different material?
hunter_the_crazychick : I'd like to be teleported, and become Creepy InsideOutGirl on the other side. Not die, though....
bradleyjones72 :
gremlin_net : nope_not_prince_hamlet: yeah.
bluegirl2483 :
wheesledeek :
hunter_the_crazychick : I want to be the haunting mistake they have to suffer with for the rest of their short-lived sanity....
nope_not_prince_hamlet : well grem....what if they teleported you from point A...to two points..B and C...which one would be the same person as point A? both of them? isnt that self contradictory?
hunter_the_crazychick : Sure, it's impossible; but I can dream.
hello_my_name_is_josh : nope, look at it like this, imagine a machine that could recieve matter and then put it back together in its original form again
alcyonian : But barely detectable.
hello_my_name_is_josh : traveling on a magnetic wave
minacious_hellcat :
minacious_hellcat :
gremlin_net : nope_not_prince_hamlet: actually, all three would be the same.
LOG DATA Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:23:32 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
nope_not_prince_hamlet : well thats impossible grem
alcyonian : Bah.
hello_my_name_is_josh : it seems fucking dumb as hell and impossible
nope_not_prince_hamlet : the same person cant take up two seperate spaces
gremlin_net : nope_not_prince_hamlet: that's your problem; I'm fine with it.
hello_my_name_is_josh : but who knows whether or not it is
gremlin_net : nope_not_prince_hamlet: says who?
gremlin_net : nope_not_prince_hamlet: I've been in lots of places.
nope_not_prince_hamlet : have you been two places at the same time?
nope_not_prince_hamlet : two seperate places?
alcyonian : Lorentz and HUP.. sheesh.
kalista_theraven : xiph-Still present?
LOG DATA Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:24:32 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe :
gremlin_net : nope_not_prince_hamlet: yeah. Depending on how you measure time. I've been in two countries in the same second.
xiphoid_thanatos : Is still waiting for the explanation and cite to back up the claim that it is possible to travel faster than the speed of light...several times faster at that
xiphoid_thanatos : lyth; yep
hunter_the_crazychick : is occupying two seperate places right now. This side of the bed, and that side of the bed....
hello_my_name_is_josh : nope, until you can go 10000 years into the future you dont have any means to say what is possible and what is not
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : traveling faster then light is relative
xiphoid_thanatos : Sorry, it is taking me forever to type due to stitches:|
hunter_the_crazychick : Understand that the bed is six feet wide; it's quite a feat for lil' ol' me.
athenian_man_of_rapture :
alcyonian : We don't have the technology to 1. Travel the speed of light. 2. Create something to travel faster. 3. Detect anything that can.
nope_not_prince_hamlet : if u measure time from the same space both times is the point grem
nope_not_prince_hamlet : semantics
LOG DATA Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:25:32 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
kalista_theraven : xiph-http://www.recreationalthought.com/legion.MP3 Tell me if you like it. I have odd tastes, and am always curious to see if someone else shares them.
xiphoid_thanatos : You made a claim...back it up.
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : you could move faster then light compared to a star that is moving relative to the galactic center i think
xiphoid_thanatos : lyth: Thanks:D
kalista_theraven : np
nope_not_prince_hamlet : now ur telling me you can be A and not A at the same time but just altering the defnitnion of A
gremlin_net : nope_not_prince_hamlet: you're the one using semantics. You'll have to show evidence that the same entity can't occupy two spaces concurrently.
nope_not_prince_hamlet : you cant be in two seperate places at the same time
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : i saw that bluejene
hello_my_name_is_josh : yes make a magnet
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : it was the water of the moon
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : but first we gotta find the water
alcyonian : Are you confusing electromagnetism?
LOG DATA Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:26:32 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: wouldn't that technically require disproving an entire section of that theoretical quantum stuff...?
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : the plasma rocket is more plausible
gremlin_net : nope_not_prince_hamlet: granting that no one's ever proved that the same thing can't be in two places at once, you're just making assumptions about it.
nope_not_prince_hamlet : because an entitly like a person is a material entity....it occupies a space.....it doesnt occupy that space AND another space
zombie_hates_everything :
celsus_veritas :
hunter_the_crazychick : Zombie?
zombie_hates_everything : Hunter?
gremlin_net : Hunter: quantum's on my side here.
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : or the solar sheild for that matter
nope_not_prince_hamlet : of course im making assumptions...based on the meaning of the word 'person'
hunter_the_crazychick : clings.
zombie_hates_everything : Wow. I can actually see people in here...
zombie_hates_everything : clings
nope_not_prince_hamlet : thats what we are talking about ...what constitutes a person
alcyonian : hunter_the_crazychick: Depends on the quantum model.
gremlin_net : nope_not_prince_hamlet: what percentage of time do you exist?
zombie_hates_everything : Every time I come in here lately, I can't see anyone.
LOG DATA Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:27:32 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
celsus_veritas :
nope_not_prince_hamlet : i dont see how thats relevant
alcyonian : It's hard to disprove anything in relation to quantum when the mathematics are applicable for different systems.
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : but you dont want to waste water like that
nope_not_prince_hamlet : percentage of what time
bluejene : lol
bluejene : j/k
hunter_the_crazychick : Alcy: I'm not smart enough to wrap my mind around much of it. It literally makes my head hurt /just/ before I start understanding it, and I lose it all. It's a fucking conspiracy, I tell you....
alcyonian : Fuck sakes. Quantum time is not like linear.
hunter_the_crazychick : Zombie: I know; it's been like that for everyone.
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : stumkrahe its difficult to make nuclear power in space
xiphoid_thanatos : This will probably take a while to d/l, me being on 56k and all:|
zombie_hates_everything : Hunter: That blows.
alcyonian : Bohemian (Bell) quantum can place you in different systems at once, according to different observers.
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : the water is unpredictable that is used to cool the reactor
LOG DATA Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:28:32 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gremlin_net : nope_not_prince_hamlet: at the simplest level, you're nothing more than atomic structures; and your nuclei blink in and out of existence over and over; in all probability, your nuclei are replaced by others.
zombie_hates_everything : Hello, Gremlin.
gremlin_net : i.
gremlin_net : Hi.
nope_not_prince_hamlet : look if i teleported person A to position B and C...and point B and C are five feet from each other...and after the telportation person B kills someone...who goes to jail...person B or BOTH person B and C?
alcyonian : But that does NOT mean you are traveling faster than the speed of light.
kalista_theraven : Poor xiphoid.
hello_my_name_is_josh : YES STURM I AGREE ENTIRELY, BUT WHO WANTS TO SPEND THAT KIND OF MONEY FOR SOMETHING THAT THEY KNOW COULD LEAD TO DISASTER IN SPACE
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : without gravity it would be difficult to keep the reactor contained in water to keep it cool enough
alcyonian : It means that you have different angles of measure according to the position of the observer.
kalista_theraven : Broadband=Groovy
gremlin_net : nope_not_prince_hamlet: habeus corpus.
hello_my_name_is_josh : IF WE LOSE IT, THATS ALOT OF WASTED MONEY
LOG DATA Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:29:32 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
nope_not_prince_hamlet : lol assum habeus corpus
xiphoid_thanatos : lyth: Yes. dialup is evil...the work of the debil I tell ya
nope_not_prince_hamlet : and assume B is proved guily
alcyonian : nope_not_prince_hamlet: To travel a to b is merely the measurement of a dimension.
nope_not_prince_hamlet : like on video
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : everything we send in space could lead to dissaster
gremlin_net : nope_not_prince_hamlet: the B is proved guilty.
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : lol
alcyonian : What the hell are you TALKIN about?>
gremlin_net : then*
kalista_theraven : Agreed.
hello_my_name_is_josh : I know that...
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : look at the columbia
nope_not_prince_hamlet : by your logic both B and C should go to jail
hunter_the_crazychick : didn't know you could 'assume habeus corpus'.
nope_not_prince_hamlet : or they are different people
nope_not_prince_hamlet : one or the other
kalista_theraven : I compressed that a bit though, so at least it is small.
gremlin_net : nope_not_prince_hamlet: by your misunderstanding of the process; not by my logic.
nope_not_prince_hamlet : ?
zombie_hates_everything : Ugh. brb.
xiphoid_thanatos : Jo; I think some are responding to something that is being said on voice
zombie_hates_everything :
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : lmao george bush doesnt know how to pronounce it
hello_my_name_is_josh : yes... its not nucular, its nuclear
LOG DATA Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:30:32 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hello_my_name_is_josh : she's absolutely right
deadman_932 :
alcyonian : Cassie: Bah, it's like bastardised form of physics to me.
alcyonian : Joseph :X
gremlin_net : nope_not_prince_hamlet: by your logic, if I used a DVD to kill you, then every copy of the film would be guilty.
deadman_932 : josephine:x
celsus_veritas :
alcyonian : Hello, Austin.
nope_not_prince_hamlet : u said that B and C are the same person and yet you claim that they can act seperatly and that C isnt responsible for what B does....your not being consistent
gremlin_net : nope_not_prince_hamlet: same film; lots of different places at once; one is involved in a murder.
xiphoid_thanatos : sidles over to Joe and asks "You talking to me?"
celsus_veritas : hiya Jo
i4uck3durmamma666 :
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: I think he's trying to go off on a twisted clone/soul tangent here.
hello_my_name_is_josh : all we need is something that gives off force
nope_not_prince_hamlet : no grem..i agree taht B and C are copies of A
deadman_932 : :x xiph
LOG DATA Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:31:32 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
nope_not_prince_hamlet : idientical copies
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : bluejene its more plausible to use a plasma rocket
nope_not_prince_hamlet : thas assumed
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : its way faster
xiphoid_thanatos : Joe:x
hello_my_name_is_josh : there is ALOT of stuff that gives off force
alcyonian : Fuck I can make the mathematics for Grems assertion.
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : and the fuel is more efficient
alcyonian : I cant do it for something supposedly travelling faster than the speed of light.
gremlin_net : nope_not_prince_hamlet: A) 'your' is a possessive determiner, you illiterate imbecile; B) you have no idea what you're talking about, and, evidently, no interest in learning it.
plaid_paint_job :
daat_613 :
junior9471 :
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : though if you wanted to use the system for holding water like they said on that program for the people on board think of how many people you could send
gremlin_net : nope_not_prince_hamlet: I never said that B and C weren't copies, Moron.
i4uck3durmamma666 :
celsus_veritas :
dear_honyou :
bluejene : lol god... well like i said i don't know enough about it to comment
xiphoid_thanatos : Jo; Oh that conversation. I thought you were talking about josh.
LOG DATA Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:32:32 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
alcyonian : What the fuck? Give off force?
plaid_paint_job :
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : blue it was a good idea
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : and who knows they may use it
alcyonian : Is kinetic energy a force?
alcyonian : Is potential energy a force?
nope_not_prince_hamlet : u said that B anc C were the same person grem...and evidently in you language a person isnt responsible for what he does...if B kills someone...it follows that C kills someone...if they are truly the same person...u are inconsistent
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : but i would think keeping the source of power away from the source of keepin the occupants alive would be important
junior9471 :
bluejene : well... it kinda pisses me off.. the money we waste things like space exploration... you see the rocket to mars is messed up?
hello_my_name_is_josh : no its not force its energy
dear_honyou :
LOG DATA Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:33:32 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : sturm water is all over the universe
deadman_932 : sits in a recently-awakened daze
alcyonian : :))
nope_not_prince_hamlet : either both B and C are guily or they arent the same person
alcyonian : Thank you. You know SHIT about physics.
nope_not_prince_hamlet : u make no sense
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : its one of the simplest compounds in the universe
gremlin_net : nope_not_prince_hamlet: B and C are the same person; both are copies of A. Algebra isn't your best subject, is it....
hunter_the_crazychick : shakes her head at nope_not_prince_hamlet for not being able to understand what he's trying to argue.
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : made from the most common particle found
nope_not_prince_hamlet : grem...its assumed that they are copies from the start
alcyonian : Kinetic energy is based around connection which has two opposing forces.
hunter_the_crazychick : A=B, A=C, thus C=/=B?
hello_my_name_is_josh : what we need to develop is an engine that does not leave anything behind
nope_not_prince_hamlet : which you are inconsistent on
lestats_blood_maiden :
hello_my_name_is_josh : i cant remember the name of it
hello_my_name_is_josh : but
alcyonian : Fucking dumb cunts.
gremlin_net : I can't think of a dumber way to explain this; the concept may be universally beyond nope_not_prince_hamlet's potential for learning....
LOG DATA Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:34:32 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
alcyonian : Joe: Want a game of Literati?
gremlin_net : Oh wait....
gremlin_net : nope_not_prince_hamlet: ever got a haircut?
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : its usually can be accomodated for computer wise
deadman_932 : yes, josephine, i do. i should get coffee first, though
hunter_the_crazychick : nope_not_prince_hamlet: there have been no inconsistencies in Gremlin's argument. You, however, are changing your stance from 'are they the same, or are they copies' to 'they're copies; that's assumed from the start'....
alcyonian : Me too.
alcyonian : gremlin_net: They know shit about basic physics.
alcyonian : Watched too fucking much of babylon 5.
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : but if its a complete failure or beyond the design capacity of the on board computers then its lost
nope_not_prince_hamlet : no hunter...my position is that they are not the same person
deadman_932 : k, me going to sign in as well
gremlin_net : Jo: apparently so.
bluejene : lol alc
hunter_the_crazychick : nope_not_prince_hamlet: so what's different about them?
hunt_4_friends :
LOG DATA Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:35:32 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
alcyonian : Ok Joe. I'm going to grab my coffee.
gremlin_net : nope_not_prince_hamlet: this is a question ever you can answer. Have you ever got a haircut. Yes or No.
hunt_4_friends : hello
hunt_4_friends : iam from india**==
gremlin_net : even*
nope_not_prince_hamlet : well..tehy occupy different spaces...they have differnt perceptions etc
xiphoid_thanatos : omg! lyth, they remind me of the small faces! These guys are brilliant:D
hunter_the_crazychick : nope_not_prince_hamlet: show me -- demonstrate for me -- the DIFFERENCE between A and B, and B and C, and A and C.
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : wish i could get on the mic
gremlin_net : We'll just wait for nope_not_prince_hamlet to work out whether he's ever had a haircut....
deadman_932 : lyth is here? hi lyth:x
hunter_the_crazychick : nope_not_prince_hamlet: and if you can demonstrate this difference, they are not copies; they are entirely new people, and /not/ what was teleported.
nope_not_prince_hamlet : well hunter...if B gets a haircut...then B will have shorter hair than C
nope_not_prince_hamlet : lol
nope_not_prince_hamlet : they wont both get a haircut
gremlin_net : nope_not_prince_hamlet: IDIOT. YES OR NO.
LOG DATA Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:36:32 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
xiphoid_thanatos : Joe; she was....she gave me a link for an excellent song
hunter_the_crazychick : nope_not_prince_hamlet: aftermarket modifications do not make a toyota into a Mclaren; it's still a toyota.
nope_not_prince_hamlet : there are two seperate people...B and C
aries1975us :
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : blue its so important that we get off earth
gremlin_net : nope_not_prince_hamlet: answer the question, Troll. Have you ever got a haircut.
deadman_932 : what song, cassie?
nope_not_prince_hamlet : hunter....there can be two seperate toyatas...we are taking for granted taht they are material lcopies of each other
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : if we dont expand then eventually the human race will end
nope_not_prince_hamlet : but i maintain that they are different people
gremlin_net : nope_not_prince_hamlet will be gonged for evasion in three....
hunter_the_crazychick : nope_not_prince_hamlet: you're changing the parameters of your argument again. If A, B, and C are all teleported to the exact same place, from one model [which, in your initial model, would not be possible], then B kills someone instantly, there would have been no time for haircuts.
nope_not_prince_hamlet : no hunter
LOG DATA Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:37:32 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
xiphoid_thanatos : The Legionnaire's Lament by The Deceberists
gremlin_net : two....
xiphoid_thanatos : *decemberist
xiphoid_thanatos : s
xiphoid_thanatos : pfft
nope_not_prince_hamlet : person A is teletransported to BOTH points B and C
aries1975us :
hunt_4_friends : washes and folds the laundry
gremlin_net : one....
hunt_4_friends : faints
hunter_the_crazychick : nope_not_prince_hamlet: and when you can show me the basic, in-the-material difference, then you'll prove that they're different people, and end up disproving yourself anyway, because then they WOULD NOT BE COPIES.
deadman_932 : hehe..some kind of revolutionay commie song?
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : live in california for a while... they wasted 35 billion dollars
hunt_4_friends : is bored by Good Girl
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : and we got nothin in return
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : blue they arent idiots
hunter_the_crazychick : nope_not_prince_hamlet: changing /again/? One more change, and I'm ignoring you for intellectual dishonesty.
hello_my_name_is_josh : theres an idea of a machine that is entirely self-sustained by having a donut shaped magnet that creates force by pushing behind it a type of matter and then pulling it back in front again to create a continuously flowing afterward force that leaves no waste or burns no fuel
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : the shuttle accident was unavoidable
nope_not_prince_hamlet : i havent changed once
LOG DATA Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:38:32 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gremlin_net : nope_not_prince_hamlet: you are hereby sentenced to 999,999 days in the killfile for criminal trolling. Here's your shirt: http://troll.grem.tv
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : budget cut backs caused it
hunt_4_friends :
gremlin_net : Why do I still try to teach these fucking idiots....
bluejene : :))
lestats_blood_maiden :
nope_not_prince_hamlet : grem u are a moron
nope_not_prince_hamlet : lol
hunter_the_crazychick : nope_not_prince_hamlet: well then, that's it, isn't it? Thank's for wasting my time; I'll be saving this transcript as an educational model for 'how not to argue'....
nope_not_prince_hamlet : waht the fuck are u talking aobut u cretins
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : hey hunter what was the argument?
LOG DATA Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:39:32 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
nope_not_prince_hamlet : hunter doesnt know what the argument was evidnelty
hunter_the_crazychick : i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe: which version?
bluejene : :)) yeah
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : im kinda curious based on the results
gremlin_net : Hamlet has decided that your genetic structure couldn't possibly be in two places at once. Whenever he cuts his hair, he makes sure to keep the stuff they cut off. Because he's a fucking idiot of a troll.
xiphoid_thanatos : When calling others 'cretins', it helps if you don't look like one yourself:)
nope_not_prince_hamlet : cause he/she maintains that i have somehow changed my position
bluejene : i know.. held together w/ a rubber band
bluejene : :))
hello_my_name_is_josh : theres also an idea in development that can run on solar radiation
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : hey the russians dont even put there astronauts into space suits on launch
xiphoid_thanatos : hamlet; Not position, direction.
nope_not_prince_hamlet : i didnt say ur genetic structure cant be in two places at once u moron...i said you cant be in two places at once thats the whole point
hunter_the_crazychick : nope_not_prince_hamlet: if you're not nearly intelligent enough to figure out by the basic evidences given within my own screenname what my gender is, then you're obviously not smart enough to remember what was said two lines ago.
LOG DATA Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:40:32 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gremlin_net : Hamlet is retarded. He's just here to contradict people in subjects he knows nothing about.
nope_not_prince_hamlet : fuck you
kalista_theraven :
nope_not_prince_hamlet : lol
nope_not_prince_hamlet : bunch of cretins
hunter_the_crazychick : nope_not_prince_hamlet: and we still maintain that you have no working knowledge of any of the higher sciences, which you prove with every statement you make.
nope_not_prince_hamlet : grem is just mad because i uncovered him for the moron he is
nope_not_prince_hamlet : and hunter is just on his cock
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : gifted kids get access to the space program?
hunter_the_crazychick : nope_not_prince_hamlet: one so uneducated would do well to learn, and not enter a room merely to insult those who would be capable of educating you.
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : they never offered that to me
nope_not_prince_hamlet : hunter proove to me you are more educated than me u cretin
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : they kicked me out of school instead
LOG DATA Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:41:32 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
nope_not_prince_hamlet : lol
hunter_the_crazychick : nope_not_prince_hamlet: actually, I'm nowhere near Gremlin's cock at this moment. I'm pulling your strings like the pathetic little puppet you are.
xiphoid_thanatos : For a start, hamlet, she can tell the difference between a letter and a word.
gremlin_net : i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe: it's the other kind of 'gifted'. The 'special' ones. We put them into spacecraft and send them off to colonise the sun >:)
nope_not_prince_hamlet : hunter what community colleg to you and gremlin go to?
nope_not_prince_hamlet : uneducated?
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : well the shuttle is 20+ years old
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : its old technology
LOG DATA Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:42:32 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : nope_not_prince_hamlet: point one, I punctuate. Point two, I don't use 'u' as a word. Point three, I don't use the word of the day from insultmonger.com as my bestest best insult.
nope_not_prince_hamlet : seriously wow me with your fabulous education
gremlin_net : i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe: the technology is forty years old.
genie26female1 :
hunter_the_crazychick : nope_not_prince_hamlet: I don't go to a community college.
nope_not_prince_hamlet : u dropped out?
hunter_the_crazychick : nope_not_prince_hamlet: again, a stellar insult.
hunter_the_crazychick : nope_not_prince_hamlet: another amazing insult. And wrong again.
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : i knew it was old didnt want to put a years on it though without knowing
bluejene : oooohhh brb
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : i can never remember when they started
LOG DATA Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:43:33 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : its like 20 years older then me
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : lol
nope_not_prince_hamlet : look you clearly arent capable of a discussion without resorting to ad homenem arguments...you are both idiots...uve proven it (yes uve)
gremlin_net : i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe: the shuttle was effectively designed and ready to build in the early sixties.
genie26female1 : ha the same old idiots in here
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : cool man
gremlin_net : i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe: watch 2001 sometime, and realise that it was filmed in 1964.
genie26female1 : and you know who you are
nope_not_prince_hamlet : and frankly youve got nerve claiming im an idiot when i just come here for a simple discussion
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : yeah
hunter_the_crazychick : nope_not_prince_hamlet: I've committed an ad hominem? I've accused you of being a 'cretin' and 'dropping out of a community college'?
nope_not_prince_hamlet : im not even trying to win any argument...just engage in discussion and im friggin attacked u are fools
LOG DATA Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:44:33 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
nope_not_prince_hamlet : im reacting hunter
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : though i gotta say it need to be old tech that was used
hunter_the_crazychick : nope_not_prince_hamlet: I don't seem to be the one attempting some sort of silly retroactive poisoning of the well here....
nope_not_prince_hamlet : maybe it was mostly grem and not u i dont remember
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : the new computers we have wouldnt even work in space
xiphoid_thanatos : Short memory :))
beingwithalovelywomen :
gremlin_net : i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe: yes they would. They do.
hunter_the_crazychick : nope_not_prince_hamlet: are you now? So a logical, intelligent person 'reacts' with hypocrisy?
arminriahi :
nope_not_prince_hamlet : umm .yeah sure
nope_not_prince_hamlet : lol
hunter_the_crazychick : nope_not_prince_hamlet: a superior intellect has a shortterm memory?
nope_not_prince_hamlet : no i take that back
LOG DATA Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:45:33 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
nope_not_prince_hamlet : i remember now u attacked me first
hello_my_name_is_josh : nope, i'm saying its possible there "COULD" be at point A theres a machine that freezes you instantly, not killing you or destroying your cells. and this machine disassembles your mass with a harmless radiation and then shoots the individual molecules/atoms and a signal of how to recreate the mass at an amazing speed towards point B. Point B recieves the signal first and then starts recreating the mass according to the structure placed in the signal. I admit this is very dangerous and unlikely, but why isnt it possible?
nope_not_prince_hamlet : i dont think its impossible hello
hunter_the_crazychick : nope_not_prince_hamlet: well, I'm sure the transcript will show everything quite nicely as it happened in reality, no matter how you think it happened....
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : i watched a program talkin bout how they needed to replace one of the computers that hadnt been made in like 15 years
nope_not_prince_hamlet : im sure it will hunter
gremlin_net : hello_my_name_is_josh: not only would that not really work, it would be a total waste of resources.
hunter_the_crazychick : nope_not_prince_hamlet: and I'm sure you'll be quite disappointed; in fact, you'll likely accuse me of changing it.
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : hey gremlin get back to that other argument
genie26female1 : hamlet i've been in here barely 5 minutes and i have already concluded that you're a wanker, mate
hunter_the_crazychick : But, too bad for you....
gremlin_net : i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe: which one>
gremlin_net : ?
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : its funny as hell what ever its about
hello_my_name_is_josh : why wouldnt it work?
nope_not_prince_hamlet : grem started called me an idiot...because i pointed out his inconsistenices and you started calling me untintelligent and an idiot
LOG DATA Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:46:33 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : i cant tell em apart but they are all good
hello_my_name_is_josh : are you god?
nope_not_prince_hamlet : genie im sorry but i was attacked
hunter_the_crazychick : nope_not_prince_hamlet: misstatement of the situation, as the transcript will show. I never said anything so redundant.
minacious_hellcat : is back
minacious_hellcat : hunter_the_crazychick : nope_not_prince_hamlet: there have been no inconsistencies in Gremlin's argument. You, however, are changing your stance from 'are they the same, or are they copies' to 'they're copies; that's assumed from the start'....
nope_not_prince_hamlet : i realize at this point i am being a wanker my apologies
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : yeah im god
gremlin_net : i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe: oh. Too late. The guy I was trying to explain it to was a trolling moron; I had to gong him; he'll be out of the killfile in AD4742.
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : lmao
minacious_hellcat : That is the first hunter said to you pertaining to that argument, and it wasn't an attack
hunter_the_crazychick : Oh dear, is someone else looking at a transcript now. Looks like you're fucked.
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : what were you arguing about??
LOG DATA Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:47:33 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : somethin bout bein in two places at once?
nope_not_prince_hamlet : well i agree that her first statement wasnt an attack min
hello_my_name_is_josh : do you know every law of physics?, including the ones yet to be discovered?
nope_not_prince_hamlet : go on....next mina
gremlin_net : i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe: Hamlet is convinced that a genome can't occupy two places at once. Evidently, he's never had a haircut.
genie26female1 : too many transcripts in this room, this feckin room is full of weirdos
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : a genome?
akalhptos2003 :
hello_my_name_is_josh : it was a simple idea i had, its very stupid, but something similar to that is very possible
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : isnt a twin effectively the same genome?
LOG DATA Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:48:33 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
arminriahi :
nope_not_prince_hamlet : a genome is a genetic structure..it can occupy two places at once....but the genes that make up a genome cant be in teh same genome if there are two seperate genomes
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : the pattern buffer sturm
hunter_the_crazychick : i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe: identical twins, possibly. Siamese, I'm pretty sure are very much the same....
xiphoid_thanatos : Oh puhlease. He did this before hunter. He claimed it was possible to travel several times faster than the speed of light then said'ooo I was just talking about possibilities...". He keeps saying things are possible, but can't back up his claims.
alcyonian : Joe: I already mentioned Bell in this statement.
gremlin_net : i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe: yeah. He's convinced that you couldn't use a molecular analyser to copy someone and reintegrate them somewhere else, because there would be two identical organisms in two places at once.
alcyonian : Re: Teleportation.
nope_not_prince_hamlet : sigh
hello_my_name_is_josh : well what would be wrong with killing someone somewhere and having them end up somewhere else?
alcyonian : Grem: EPR.
mike_malak2001 :
LOG DATA Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:49:33 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : xiph: which is why I said the transcript would show him to be utterly full of shit....
mike_malak2001 :
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : i think the main problem wouldnt be the reintigration it would be the destruction process
genie26female1 : teleportation, if it did work, would still take place at the speed of light. even a dumb sheila like me knows that
gremlin_net : i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe: you know, like mitochondria going through mitosis and being the same genome in two places at once. It could never happen, even though it's been happening daily for almost four billion years now.
sturmkrahe : and the fallout isn't gonna
akalhptos2003 :
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : the heat would make duplication impossible or somethin like that
nope_not_prince_hamlet : thats not what i said.....i assumed that you could teleport a person..that he could be teleported to two seperate places....the question was....if you transport person from point A to point B AND C....would the people at B and C be the same people?
gremlin_net : i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe: not really.
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : yeah gremlin
nope_not_prince_hamlet : my answer was no they would be two seperate people
sturmkrahe : damnit genie, i was hoping there would finally be a women in here that was near me
alcyonian : Fuck sakes.
i_am_the_creator_of_the_universe : that dude has been reading too many science websites posted by christians
LOG DATA Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:50:33 hunter_the_crazychick, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
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