| 18 August 2003 at 13.23.48 ZuluTime
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Posted by Gremlin [12.211.200.127 - 12-211-200-127.client.attbi.com] on 18 August 2003 at 13.23.48 ZuluTime:
This is required, since this idiot now appears to be trying to deny having done this....
LOG DATA Mon, 18 Aug 2003 07:07:28 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1 --Gremlin
gremlin_net : Jo: you might wanna glance at http://gremlin.net/cgi-data/2003-03/118.html before putting any effort into speaking to devilman_amon_2003.
deadman_932 : that's a question
awacs52 : who wishes to debate
Begs_to_be_Sodomized : devilman_amon_2003: I was trying to find out how someone was applying a distribution of unknown parameters and making a statistical inference from it.
bobwar69 : awacs>>>>because they show a total lack of intelligence????
Begs_to_be_Sodomized : devilman_amon_2003: Would you have any idea how that can be done?
Fastillion : [ tool28eulogy, it was a test drilling. I wanted to make sure it would work before I did my temple to let the demons out of my head.
bobwar69 : lol fast
minacious_hellcat : Fastillion :))
awacs52 : bobwar then know that and set off to find another to debate with
tool28eulogy : is laughing at fastillions imagination
LOG DATA Mon, 18 Aug 2003 07:08:28 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
bobwar69 : no,its fun to get them going
awacs52 : plebian!
bobwar69 : ty
gremlin_net : awacs52: you say that as though there are vast numbers of intelligent christians....
awacs52 : no plebian
tool28eulogy : thinks fastillion writes some interestion novels
gremlin_net : awacs52: and it's spelled 'plebeian', by the way....
tool28eulogy : interesting*
LOG DATA Mon, 18 Aug 2003 07:09:28 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
Fastillion : [ tool28eulogy, thanks for the compliment
obvius73 : well if u look at things from a scientific point of view
awacs52 : i do not think you have taken the right implications of my words
obvius73 : everything is made of energy
devilman_amon_2003 : oh, i have the idea begs
deadman_932 : obvius, you know science? wow
awacs52 : no actually it is spelt plebian
sara2smiles : uh oh
gremlin_net : obvius73: I do. You're an idiot, from a scientific point of view.
bobwar69 : I can count the intelligent christians,and I use the term loosely,that I have met in here on less than both hands
crazae4candae : whos what
tool28eulogy : fastillion...you're welcome
obvius73 : so we are all energy
devilman_amon_2003 : but the derivations are very long winded
devilman_amon_2003 : do you want me to show you
obvius73 : our soul is made of energy
Begs_to_be_Sodomized : devilman_amon_2003: Technically, I suppose, if the state of a system depends upon a set of unknown parameters, then the distribution of course of the outcome would depend on those parameters to, and thus a statistical inference problems results. So does one have a choice of what measurements are taken, if so, how?
tool28eulogy : uh oh what sara?
LOG DATA Mon, 18 Aug 2003 07:10:28 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
sara2smiles : bobwar, that would be one hnad
tool28eulogy : is bob on mic?
crazae4candae : what
gremlin_net : obvius73: I haven't got a soul. Energt can't be created or destroyed, even by deities. You're an imbecile.
awacs52 : gremlin go and read up on what plebian means and then you might hesitate to spel it incorrectly
gremlin_net : Energy*
sara2smiles : tool, just saw a topic that looks like trouble;)
bobwar69 : sara>>no I should have said less then the ten fingers contained on both hands
obvius73 : the creator created us with his light
Begs_to_be_Sodomized : devilman_amon_2003: I don't mind. You can be as long-winded as you need be. I'll read it.
obvius73 : no youre energy goes on
hunter_the_crazychick : Check this shit out: http://gremlin.net/cgi-data/2003-03/145.html -- the coolest error I've EVER gotten.
obvius73 : thats your soul
tool28eulogy : oh,i hear bob now
gremlin_net : awacs52: there's not a lot to read up on. It's just an uneducated mendicant. I'll find you a link....
deadman_932 : haha..a statistical inference problem sure as hell would result
sara2smiles : bobwar, yes that makes more sense:)
LOG DATA Mon, 18 Aug 2003 07:11:28 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
tool28eulogy : I thought my voice wasnt wroking
tool28eulogy : working*
Begs_to_be_Sodomized : Joseph: I know hehe.
Fastillion : [ To me, there is education aka training and then there is like reasoning ability. Thus I find many Christians trained to perform skills but at heart they are not like 'smart'. Smart people weigh issues and do what we like to call thinking. You can be trained to be a brain surgeon but not think any more than mushroom
minacious_hellcat : Lisa:D
gremlin_net : awacs52: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=plebeian&db=*
obvius73 : u couldnt even blink without your soul
obvius73 : without a soul your body is dead
poeticheterosapien : Hunter - that is definitely the best one I've ever seen! LOL
Lisa_the_Insomniac : fondles minacious_hellcat squeezily.
minacious_hellcat : How is my favourite grumpypants person today?
awacs52 : then if you know this why do you spell it wrong
obvius73 : your body is just a temple
obvius73 : of your soul
Begs_to_be_Sodomized : So would fall on experimental set up and reliability of the apparatus, whatever it may be.
bobwar69 : obvius>>>I am alive,I have NO soul
gremlin_net : Hunter: that's funny.
LOG DATA Mon, 18 Aug 2003 07:12:28 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
somersetcase1 : obvius, I don't see human sentience as a "soul," and energy changes, dissapates, etc. I see nothing to suggest that energy from a life form continues on in that form once the life form dies. That seems an arbotrary and dogmatic assertion.
Lisa_the_Insomniac : I was grumpy an hour ago. But now I'm awake. :)
deadman_932 : too many "grammatical and spelling errors?"
obvius73 : u dont believe u do
deadman_932 : wow
awacs52 : gremlin where are you from
minacious_hellcat : :D
obvius73 : but beleif in a soul doesnt matter
psylent_bhuddi : America?
bobwar69 : No ovbius,I know I dont have a soul
poeticheterosapien : AWACS - are you with the 970th?
gremlin_net : Hunter: was that a result of an OCR problem, or were there really that many native errors in the book?
tool28eulogy : should have said goodevening to xiph and jo
minacious_hellcat : objectivist2000, Once again , and this time pay attention; I am NOT a temple.
psylent_bhuddi : What's a soul?
Lisa_the_Insomniac : slips a soul in bobwar69's pocket when he's not looking.
psylent_bhuddi : What's AWACS?
Begs_to_be_Sodomized : When the human body dies, it becomes a biological waste dump.
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: I have to assume that was the number of native errors in the book, because the book is readable.
Begs_to_be_Sodomized : Unless you opt for cremation.
mickey_parks38 : which organ houses the soul?
somersetcase1 : yes, I agree, belief in a soul doesn't matter, so why are you positing it?
awacs52 : no more covert my friend
gremlin_net : obvius73: okay, Troll. You're not entertaining anymore. You will now prove your libel that I have a soul.
devilman_amon_2003 : Begs , i dont think that the measurement are not ones choie
bobwar69 : that thing the church made up in the 1 century
obvius73 : if u only believe what u see with the eyes u are missing half the universe
devilman_amon_2003 : choice
LOG DATA Mon, 18 Aug 2003 07:13:28 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gremlin_net : obvius73: Strike One.
somersetcase1 : obvius, who claims that?
somersetcase1 : No one
sara2smiles : somerset, you asked for a debate
mickey_parks38 : observation includes many things that cant be seen with the naked eye
psylent_bhuddi : How so, obvious?
awacs52 : who has faith in god
obvius73 : no strikes its my point of view
minacious_hellcat : Is tender 'rayofsunshine' or something?
mickey_parks38 : there are these things called instruments
poeticheterosapien : awacs52 - are you with the 970th?
obvius73 : and u are entitled to your own
Fastillion : [ Brain disease closed the soul debate for me. There is not even one single quality or characteristic of human behavior that cannot be increased or decreased through damage. The right brain disease can make you harmless or a brutal killer. They can cause religious highs or make you think you are Satan.
awacs52 : no poet
gremlin_net : obvius73: your point of view, stated as fact, constitutes libel. Strike Two.
awacs52 : more covert
obvius73 : i have seen spiritual beings with my own eyes
mickey_parks38 : microscopes,telescopes, x ray machines, mri's
LOG DATA Mon, 18 Aug 2003 07:14:28 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
psylent_bhuddi : Are there metaphysical realities beyond what we can ordinarily perceive?
obvius73 : angels if u will
obvius73 : demons as well
gremlin_net : obvius73: Strike Three. Here you go, Troll: http://fraud.grem.tv
minacious_hellcat : assumes tenderheartluvsbutterflys can't see her.
Lisa_the_Insomniac : sneaks up from behind and gooses poeticheterosapien before anything is suspected!
deadman_932 : you've seen ANGELS, obvius? wow, you're ...special
mickey_parks38 : many things that cant be see may still be observed
obvius73 : not special
gremlin_net : obvius73 is sentenced to 999,999 days in the killfile for criminal trolling.
tool28eulogy : thinks butterfly's sounds hot sounds like a texas accent
gremlin_net : Next....
somersetcase1 : obvius, do you expect us to simply take your word for it?
awacs52 : gremlin where are you from
hunter_the_crazychick : is pleased with that error.
Begs_to_be_Sodomized : devilman_amon_2003: Actually that's the trick of it. It's actually rather simple. Estimate the state of a spin-half particle given independent copies of the particles. Would have some asymptotically optimal measurements that could be constructed, yes?
a_lady_waits_for_her_lord : coffee then a bowl eh bob ;0
gremlin_net : awacs52: London.
poeticheterosapien : Obvius - are you familiar with Carl Sagan's "Baloney Detection Kit?"
deadman_932 : you're especially silly, obvius
a_lady_waits_for_her_lord : ;)
LOG DATA Mon, 18 Aug 2003 07:15:28 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
minacious_hellcat : obvius; Like I said, there is medication for that.
devilman_amon_2003 : no
deadman_932 : little silly troll
Fastillion : [ obvius73, I don't think you're a troll. But then, I don't read your posts. I am ignoring you for that awful choice of typeface which is uncomfortable for me to read.
mickey_parks38 : the wind, for instance,can be observed by not actually seen
tool28eulogy : wow:Dgood girl
Begs_to_be_Sodomized : devilman_amon_2003: No? Why?
apolo88777 : im a lord
devilman_amon_2003 : what has that got to do with locality
psylent_bhuddi : We only have five senses, the universe might be made up of more dimensions.
awacs52 : that is funny as i would only expect an american to spell so badly
somersetcase1 : obvius, no, you're quite religious. Your dogmatic assetions about a "soul," is centered in religiosity
apolo88777 : a lord of the dance
Begs_to_be_Sodomized : Do remember Fisher before you answer that.
gremlin_net : psylent_bhuddi: so?
mickey_parks38 : might,if, maybe, possibly, but that is not established as fact
minacious_hellcat : obvius; As every delusional schizophrenic will also testify that they "know what they saw".
Begs_to_be_Sodomized : Nonlocality.
LOG DATA Mon, 18 Aug 2003 07:16:28 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
devilman_amon_2003 : it is totally due to the momentum, relationship
Begs_to_be_Sodomized : Cariad :X
tool28eulogy : has been through the carolina's mant times...the people there are super nice
knowledge_309 : obvius, we don't want to hear about your wet dreams.
somersetcase1 : obvius, why would yoiu expect anyone to take your word for it?
awacs52 : so where in London do you live
psylent_bhuddi : Can't say anything definite about it, it's all speculation.
devilman_amon_2003 : i abreviated, sorry
poeticheterosapien : Obvious - There is a book called "The Demon-Haunted World" which contains a section called "The Baloney Detection Kit," which is a kind of miniaturization of the scientific method applicable to daily life. I think you might need to read that, and apply the BDK to your experience.
tool28eulogy : hi dusty
hunter_the_crazychick : awacs52 is accusing Gremlin of spelling badly?
gremlin_net : awacs52: I'm not in London.
sara2smiles : tool, I agree!
yathui : Hello.
consequentialist_conservative : tool
minacious_hellcat : yathui:)
awacs52 : where in London have you lived
Begs_to_be_Sodomized : devilman_amon_2003: I have adequately removed the entanglement measurement in order to apply nonlocality.
tool28eulogy : Hmmm....sara.....I would hope you do
hunter_the_crazychick : When awacs52 doesn't even understand the difference between 'where are you' and 'where are you from'....
somersetcase1 : obvius, then why are you telling us this?
knowledge_309 : obvius, thats good. no one was going to
tool28eulogy : ;)
gremlin_net : Hunter: he misspelled 'plebeian' as 'plebian' [insert irony here], and still maintains that he got it right.
yathui : obvius73: I hope the same thing.
apolo88777 : dam evryone here talks western
tool28eulogy : slow southern draw
devilman_amon_2003 : i cannot believe you believe in quantum chaos begs
LOG DATA Mon, 18 Aug 2003 07:17:28 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: um, no.
a_lady_waits_for_her_lord : hey obvuis put in a bowl and smoke it have a nice day :)
Begs_to_be_Sodomized : devilman_amon_2003: Its NOT Quantum Chaos.
knowledge_309 : obvius, My eyes are open..The eyes of reason.
gremlin_net : awacs52: I'm from Knightsbridge. Now I'm in Denver.
hunter_the_crazychick : http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=plebian
sara2smiles : bye y'all:D
apolo88777 : listen to them chat they sound so funny
Begs_to_be_Sodomized : devilman_amon_2003: What do you know of Fisher Quantum Information?
awacs52 : plebian is a Platonic word spelt plebian check the Oxford English Standard
hunter_the_crazychick : No entry found for plebian., Did you mean plebeian?
poeticheterosapien : Obvious - people come in here and tell us "open your eyes, just open your eyes" all the time... but our eyes ARE open.
tool28eulogy : bye sara
psylent_bhuddi : Obvius and awacs are friends?
tenderheartluvsbutterflys : see sara said y'all
hunter_the_crazychick : shakes her head.
devilman_amon_2003 : a lot
poeticheterosapien : We're just not willing to accept the absurd on someone's say-so, or upon suggestion.
yathui : You people forget Christians acrtually enjoy being badmouthed and ridiculed by non-believers, because it gets them brownie-points with the man upstairs...
gremlin_net : 'No entry found for plebian. Did you mean plebeian?'
devilman_amon_2003 : that is my field
deadman_932 : after i got my coffee, my eyes opened
apolo88777 : yall lol
somersetcase1 : obvius, if you don't care what anyone thinks, and you don't expect anyone to take your word for anything, then quite honestly, I'm having a hard time understanding what you are doing here telling us this for? It makes no sense, unless you actually DO care what we think, and/or DO want us to believe you. *shrug*
Begs_to_be_Sodomized : Obviously not.
minacious_hellcat : If having my eyes opened means being a psychotic, forget it. I'll stick with reality thatnk you. Go back to your 'See Jane Run" books. Maybe one day when you grow up you will know the difference between reality and fantasy Oh Morpheus 8-|
knowledge_309 : lol
LOG DATA Mon, 18 Aug 2003 07:18:28 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
apolo88777 : who says that
a_lady_waits_for_her_lord : <<
a_lady_waits_for_her_lord : yummy
minacious_hellcat : *thank
deadman_932 : hell, i can predict that, obvius
tool28eulogy : catches himself saying,"y'all"every now and again
psylent_bhuddi : Really, obvius?
deadman_932 : and i don't see angels, either;)
awacs52 : your word is the onomatopaeic form my friend
devilman_amon_2003 : i have to sit an exam on it in november
poeticheterosapien : Yes, another attack by religious fundamentalists who "see with their souls" rather than thinking with open minds.
deadman_932 : FEMA?
deadman_932 : hahaha
yathui : Hey, he saw "X-files - Fight the Future"
apolo88777 : bobwar sounds like hes george bushs dad
gremlin_net : awacs52: my word is the correct spelling.
minacious_hellcat : See Joe, he thinks he is Morpheus:))
poeticheterosapien : Obvious - it is people like YOU, who think the way YOU DO, who attack the United States. Can't you see that type of thinking is what leads to this violence?
awacs52 : you cant go around spelling words the way you want to
Fastillion : [ If I invested, I would invest in the new nicotine beverages. I see it becoming a multi billion dollar industry
hunter_the_crazychick : awacs52: do you mean onomatopaeic?
LOG DATA Mon, 18 Aug 2003 07:19:28 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
Begs_to_be_Sodomized : devilman_amon_2003: FQI removes the measurements of Entanglement creating a new system based on nonlocality. From that he applies the spin-half particle in order to measure.
gremlin_net : awacs52: fine. You will now prove that I'm misspelling 'plebeian'.
deadman_932 : obvius, i've read that, yes
yathui : Named after Giovanni Patrito, no doubt
somersetcase1 : obvius, if you don't care what anyone thinks, and you don't expect anyone to take your word for anything, then quite honestly, I'm having a hard time understanding what you are doing here telling us this for? It makes no sense, unless you actually DO care what we think, and/or DO want us to believe you. *shrug*
psylent_bhuddi : Knightsbridge is where Harrod's is.
tool28eulogy : xiph...who thinks they're mopheus?
awacs52 : is that not the way i spelt it
yathui : Good God, Nicotine DRINKS????
tenderheartluvsbutterflys : 17
deadman_932 : damn right, hgana
yathui : obvius73: you are paranoid.
deadman_932 : serve em in the bars
gremlin_net : awacs52: nope; you spelt it 'plebian'. Strike One.
tool28eulogy : martial=war-like
yathui : Yes, you are.
LOG DATA Mon, 18 Aug 2003 07:20:28 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
psylent_bhuddi : Mars is the Roman war god?
hunter_the_crazychick : shakes her head.
yathui : As many Christians are in a world that increasingly rejects their bullshit
somersetcase1 : okay, obvius is just monolouging now.
deadman_932 : obvius, you're a nut and paranoid and you lie to yourself about seeing angels
devilman_amon_2003 : who applies it, which theory are you going by begs
Fastillion : [ Yes, the new nicotine drinks are cropping up in new york bars. I have no doubt you will see a national canned beverage in a few years
poeticheterosapien : Awacs - the British spell several words differently than we do... you're not going to win this one.
babapoupou : oh i get it, ....god never went to school ....he never learnt how to create a perfect world, .....that's why it's so screwed up, but i wonder if destroying all religions would help???
yathui : You got blood in your heart, as we all do
Begs_to_be_Sodomized : devilman_amon_2003: Hell even a single ion in a vacuum chamber or a small number of photons which can be transmitted through an optical communication system.
apolo88777 : evil is wen you know your doing something wrong and you do it anyways
yathui : If you really were aware, you wouldn´t be paranoid
awacs52 : In the Oxford and Republic it is spelt as i have
hunter_the_crazychick : poeticheterosapien: he's trying to claim that the English agree with him.
tenderheartluvsbutterflys : Oh my ears:((
yathui : Because you don´t have one.
tool28eulogy : fastillion...did the FDA approve the nicotine drink?
gremlin_net : Poe: he's claiming to be English. He's also claiming that the OED misspells 'plebeian' the way he does.
poeticheterosapien : Hunter - then he's delusional. *shrug*
apolo88777 : if you kill someone its not wrong
tenderheartluvsbutterflys : Object your too loud
LOG DATA Mon, 18 Aug 2003 07:21:28 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
devilman_amon_2003 : is your source laymann, unless you write your own book
dats_boitch_2_u_fukerrrrrrrrr : woooohoooooo
apolo88777 : unless you think its wrong in your brain
dats_boitch_2_u_fukerrrrrrrrr : roflmao
awacs52 : are all american or something
dats_boitch_2_u_fukerrrrrrrrr : roflmfao
poeticheterosapien : Grem - I can't say about that, I don't know, but I'm not the Brit.
Begs_to_be_Sodomized : devilman_amon_2003: That is simplistic terminology.
Fastillion : [ tool28eulogy, they must have, I am watching this on ABC news. A New York bar sells a Nicotini - a nicotine martini
minacious_hellcat : awacs52, Bullshit. I have the Oxford. Gremlin is correct.
gremlin_net : awacs52: Strike Two....
psylent_bhuddi : For example manoeuvre and maneuver.
hunter_the_crazychick : laughs and laughs at awacs52.
hunter_the_crazychick : Idiot.
dats_boitch_2_u_fukerrrrrrrrr : brb
hunter_the_crazychick : Delusional fucking idiot.
apolo88777 : wow somerset doesnt sound western
psylent_bhuddi : Is this a bowling room? lol
tool28eulogy : Nicotini....too funny
yathui : The word is Latin, isn´t it?
devilman_amon_2003 : layman's modified bell's
apolo88777 : tender and bob do
yathui : Plebeian
LOG DATA Mon, 18 Aug 2003 07:22:28 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
Begs_to_be_Sodomized : devilman_amon_2003: EPR laymened Bell's.
gremlin_net : Poe: long story short, no recognised dictionary on the planet misspells 'plebeian' as 'plebian', despite this moron's lies.
awacs52 : Hunter what is your area of interest , as i will now prove your statement incorrect and reverse it
Begs_to_be_Sodomized : devilman_amon_2003: But I removed Bell's Inequality in my first paragraph.
gremlin_net : awacs52: Strike Three. Here you go: http://tard.grem.tv
yathui : obvius pissed off
Begs_to_be_Sodomized : devilman_amon_2003: So it's non applicable.
tenderheartluvsbutterflys : lol @bob
deadman_932 : pffft, hey jo? what is devilman trying to babble about bell's theorem? and epr and non-locality?
tenderheartluvsbutterflys : you dont sound western @ all
psylent_bhuddi : Patrician bv. plebeian?
tool28eulogy : used to live in south america
poeticheterosapien : Grem - all I know is, the word "plebe" was once used at the USNA to refer to the incoming class of midshipmen.
hunter_the_crazychick : awacs52: if you're going to prove any statements incorrect and reverse them, you might well want to go off and take remedial writing first....
LOG DATA Mon, 18 Aug 2003 07:23:28 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
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