aicguy153 : somersetcase1: aicguy, seeing as that zed is unwilling to explain, I will. argument from ignorance is fallacious... The fallacy occurs when it's argued that something must be true, simply because it hasn't been proved false. Or, equivalently, when it is argued that something must be false because it hasn't been proved true....By stating that missing transitional fossils prove evolution false, you are envoking argumentum ad ignorantiam ...okay?
     aicguy153 : yeah, but all of you people here are guilty of that as well
     aicguy153 : :)
     somersetcase1 : aicguy, don't say "all you guys." I have made no such argument.
     aicguy153 : all of you somercase. and i do mean all of you
     zedechiah_the_messiah : AIC: wrong, liar. I gave three examples that are easily investigated. We have a complete record of their development.
     zedechiah_the_messiah : moron
     aicguy153 : scifinbible, same with me. someone else accused me of that
     LOG DATA Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:59:57 damien_the_demon_kitty, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     aicguy153 : zedechiah, that was the only time you said anything valid
     aicguy153 : scifinbible, i didnt say that. and you didnt say it either b/c you know everything you say isnt correct
     somersetcase1 : aicguy, well that is simply false. If I have made such an argument, please tell me where. Otherwise you are just spouting false rhetoric.
     zedechiah_the_messiah : and AIC since you dont have to support YOUR arguments and they may stand on simple assertion, then so do mine. so - 1) youre stupid 2) no one in cosmology says the big bang is false 3) we have lots of transitionals
     LOG DATA Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:00:57 damien_the_demon_kitty, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     damien_the_demon_kitty : LMAO, aic is fighting with scifi. Tweedle dee vs. Tweedle dum.
     bluejene : :)) kitty
     aicguy153 : i supported all of my arguments. ive made more arguments than you
     zedechiah_the_messiah : AIC, ok. So you agree its valid. Which means your position is INvalid. Therefore you WERE wrong.
     zedechiah_the_messiah : AIC, liar
     aicguy153 : since all you can do is namecalling, then you are the stupid one
     somersetcase1 : aicguy, A false argument is no better then no argument.
     somersetcase1 : I have yet to call you names
     aicguy153 : zedechiah, and for the record you are the only person in here i don't have any respect for at all
     aicguy153 : you don't know how to talk to people
     LOG DATA Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:01:57 damien_the_demon_kitty, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     zedechiah_the_messiah : AIC, the feeling is mutual. So i dont care
     aicguy153 : i know thats how you feel. and its a shame that you are that way
     zedechiah_the_messiah : AIC youre an idiot. You dont know how to debate.
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, actually you'd be wrong about zed. He talks to people just fine.
     aicguy153 : omg, you are both of those things zedechiah, and i think everyone in here noticed your behavior
     aicguy153 : damien, not to me
     zedechiah_the_messiah : AIC its not my fault that youre stupid. Im only here to point it out. Its up to you to fix it
     aicguy153 : because we disagree
     aicguy153 : and thats not how you chat with people. by calling them names
     LOG DATA Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:02:57 damien_the_demon_kitty, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     aicguy153 : thats just fucking immature
     zedechiah_the_messiah : AIC no. not because we disagree, but because youre a liar
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, look dipshit, zed is a reg-u-lar here, we know more about him and have seen more of him than you probably ever will, and we have yet to notice anything wrong with his behavior.
     aicguy153 : zedechiah, but it is your fault that you think i'm stupid, and that you don't realize that you are stupid and don't know how to chat
     zedechiah_the_messiah : AIC no its YOUR fault i think youre stupid. YOU made the vapid comments, not I.
     aicguy153 : i've already done that
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, before trying to denigrate someone in here, make sure he isn't already known to the people in the room.
     aicguy153 : thats why everyone is on my case
     LOG DATA Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:03:57 damien_the_demon_kitty, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     somersetcase1 : aicguy, I refuted your fallacious argument long ago, without calling you any names, which I have yet to do. I explained that fossils are actually rare given the nature of how fossils form, and therefore, to expect fossil examples of every species that ever existed is unreasonable. You never answered me. *shrug*
     aicguy153 : damien, i don't care if he is the most famous guy of the chatroom here every day....
     zedechiah_the_messiah : AIC, hahaha. ok. QUICKLY now. 1)repost your major and minor premises with conclusion 2) rename all those scientists who say the big bang is false
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, actually, everyone is on your case, because so far, you fail to present a valid argument, and then you turn around and accuse us of doing the same thing.
     aicguy153 : if he insults me, i will insult him back
     aicguy153 : i dont give a fuck if the rest of you here kiss his ass
     zedechiah_the_messiah : 2 posts with no response
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, the difference is, you're outright lying about him.
     LOG DATA Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:04:57 damien_the_demon_kitty, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     zedechiah_the_messiah : 3 posts
     damien_the_demon_kitty : And then you're trying to imply that you've convinced us the lies are true, which in itself is another lie.
     somersetcase1 : I didn't kiss zeds ass, actually I picked on him for calling you stupid 20+ times, and again when I went ahead and explained what he wouldn't. You are being quite unreasonable at the moment.
     aicguy153 : somerset, i was busy answering the other guys, especially zede
     aicguy153 : to answer your question...
     zedechiah_the_messiah : 5 posts
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Zed, figures.
     zedechiah_the_messiah : er - 4
     LOG DATA Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:05:57 damien_the_demon_kitty, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     aicguy153 : like i already said, if you can find a very old hominid bone, why cant you find a not so old hominid bone that links the older one to humans?
     aicguy153 : and not just for hominids, but for all creatures
     zedechiah_the_messiah : 6 posts
     aicguy153 : zed pointed out three creatures that have complete records
     aicguy153 : but billions of species exist
     zedechiah_the_messiah : AIC you are dismissed as being the liar that you are
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, maybe because fossilization occurs very rarily?
     aicguy153 : i know bird bones break easily, but there isnt an excuse for the rhino family for example
     somersetcase1 : aic the age of the fossil is not relevent. Once a fossil is formed, it lasts a really long time. It's not the age of the fossil, but how fossils are formed in the first place that is the issue.
     LOG DATA Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:06:57 damien_the_demon_kitty, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, bullshit, fossilization is the exception to the norm, not the norm.
     aicguy153 : damien what about bones?
     damien_the_demon_kitty : It doesn't matter whether it was a bird or rhino.
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, what about the bones?
     aicguy153 : ok somerset
     damien_the_demon_kitty : They'll decay like everything else unless some very specific circumstances occur to them.
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Such as rapid burial under silt, or other hardening sediment.
     LOG DATA Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:07:57 damien_the_demon_kitty, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     damien_the_demon_kitty : In the vast majority of deaths, this doesn't occur.
     aicguy153 : ok now you guys are actually making a good point, and i agree with you
     aicguy153 : i dont know why you couldnt just say that when i first got here
     damien_the_demon_kitty : And even if it does occur, we have to be extremely lucky to even find these fossils.
     aicguy153 : instead of calling me names, and watching the other guy call me names
     zedechiah_the_messiah : here is why AIC is really stupid and where his ignorance is best displayed 1) he suggested there are no fossils for celluar life hahahahahahah. idiot. fossilize WHAT? 2) we have a good record of sharks, but no complete skeletons. Why? because sharks dont have skeletons. They have cartilidge, and cartilidge doesnt fossilize
     zedechiah_the_messiah : AIC = stupid
     aicguy153 : but still, ...
     LOG DATA Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:08:57 damien_the_demon_kitty, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     damien_the_demon_kitty : I get the impression that this was explained to Aic earlier.
     aicguy153 : there are some species where many fossiles have been found of that kind
     aicguy153 : and then the links havnt been found. its just screwy
     aicguy153 : its like trying to build a puzzle with made up pieces
     zedechiah_the_messiah : AIC has been given three examples of excellent records of transitionals. But AIC is not intellectually honest enough to even look into it. He just ignorantly declares no such thing exists
     aicguy153 : i take a pro atheist view
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, that would probably be because several of the same species got caught together in the same fossil producing calamity.
     bluejene : lol
     aicguy153 : i'm not supporting this religion or that one right now
     steveg_1961 : fossilization is affected by: environment, makeup of organisms
     aicguy153 : i mean a pro theist view *
     LOG DATA Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:09:57 damien_the_demon_kitty, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     zedechiah_the_messiah : in Pakistan there is a complete progression of dog-like mammal to whale. Its not a puzzle. its well laid out.
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, there is no 'pro theist' view in regards to the fossil record.
     zedechiah_the_messiah : ergo AIC is an idiot
     aicguy153 : telquel, i'm just a guy who came today to chat
     aicguy153 : i guess you guys don't take kindly to strangers
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, no, we don't take kindly to idiots who post strawmen.
     aicguy153 : or anyone who has something new to show
     zedechiah_the_messiah : goes AFK
     aicguy153 : strawmen?
     LOG DATA Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:10:57 damien_the_demon_kitty, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, you're not showing anything new.
     bluejene : NEW..!!??
     bluejene : :))
     damien_the_demon_kitty : All your strawmen have been debunked for decades now.
     larry_isley : aic positing something new, you should not only expect it to be challenged but WANT it to be
     aicguy153 : i thought i would be welcomed in this room b/c its a christian vs theist room
     aicguy153 : and also since i seem to be the only pro theist guy here
     aicguy153 : but i guess you guys don't want an argument
     aicguy153 : you just all want to agree
     aicguy153 : how are you going to learn that way?
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, martyring yourself doesn't help your case any.
     LOG DATA Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:11:57 damien_the_demon_kitty, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, okay, now you're showing your dishonesty.
     larry_isley : aic says we don't want an argument, then cries because we argue? that makes sense
     bluejene : Atheist... xtian vs ATHEIST
     aicguy153 : i don't think so damien. i'm pointing out your flaws
     bluejene : #-o
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Your arguments have been debunked, instead of either admitting you're wrong, or bringing forth new arguments, you try to say the problem's on our end.
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Yet another fallacious argument.
     aicguy153 : larry, i like to discuss the issues with you
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, how? What flaws have you pointed out?
     LOG DATA Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:12:57 damien_the_demon_kitty, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     aicguy153 : but not the way zed and some of the others do, calling people names and hardly pointing out anything revelant
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, if I'm not mistaken, all the points you've tried to make I've already debunked.
     larry_isley : well if you take it personally you'll get no where, stick tot he argument and quit crying
     aicguy153 : damien, like i said, you a lot of you guys are treating me in a way to make me want to leave
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, unless you posted something that I missed, your case doesn't really hold.
     aicguy153 : doesnt that defeat the purpose of having a christian vs atheist room?
     LOG DATA Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:13:57 damien_the_demon_kitty, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     larry_isley : aic either discuss the topic or discuss HOW we discuss the topic
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, so instead of pointing out exactly what my flaws were, you attempt to attack our character instead?
     larry_isley : make a choice
     aicguy153 : damien you came in too late. but ive been repeating my point, so hopefully youve read it by now
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, you bring this upon yourself with your evasiveness.
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, I've seen you post a couple strawmen about fossilization, which I've already debunked.
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Anything else from you, I haven't seen yet.
     aicguy153 : damien i didnt say everyone in this room is acting like zed, but a lot of you are.
     LOG DATA Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:14:57 damien_the_demon_kitty, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     aicguy153 : so don't take it personally. i wasnt talking about you. stop being so selfish
     larry_isley : just make a point AIC
     aicguy153 : everything isnt about you
     larry_isley : damn
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, so I ask again, what 'flaws in my argument' have you pointed out?
     aicguy153 : so calm the fuck down
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, once again, instead of actually making a point, you fallaciously try to attack my character.
     aicguy153 : i have larry, and i could do it for you as soon as they stop making me write other things
     larry_isley : AIC no one is forcing you to do ANYTHING
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, I ask a third time, what 'flaws in my argument' have you pointed out?
     aicguy153 : damien, again i wasnt attacking you. so can we please just move along
     aicguy153 : i see you didnt read what i wrote
     LOG DATA Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:15:57 damien_the_demon_kitty, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     damien_the_demon_kitty : And while you're at it, how am I selfish?
     aicguy153 : damien i wouldnt remember by now, and i dont think i was talking about you anyway
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, you didn't write anything I haven't already addressed.
     aicguy153 : selfish in thinking everything is about you, as in i was talking about you
     aicguy153 : which i wasnt
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, actually you mention my name in the post if I remember correctly.
     aicguy153 : and youre still thinking that
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, and when did I imply that/
     damien_the_demon_kitty : ?
     larry_isley : 50 posts and not one relevant statement
     LOG DATA Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:16:57 damien_the_demon_kitty, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, you're still being evasive, you haven't honestly answered a single one of my questions.
     damien_the_demon_kitty : aicguy153 : i don't think so damien. i'm pointing out your flaws <----You don't think you were talking about me, Aic?
     aicguy153 : my modified point is... i know bones have to be fossilized in order for them to last, but still some species have been fossilized in large numbers
     LOG DATA Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:17:57 damien_the_demon_kitty, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     aicguy153 : yet their links havnt
     aicguy153 : and i think its screwy. i think inventing links for the sake of finishing a made up puzzle is not a responsible act
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, whole species have not been fossilized.
     aicguy153 : damien, and how convenient is that for you
     damien_the_demon_kitty : The only cases of large numbers of fossils being found together are instances of groups being washed away in floods, then rapidly buried under silt.
     aicguy153 : :))
     LOG DATA Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:18:57 damien_the_demon_kitty, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     aicguy153 : let me give it to you straight... most of the so called missing links never existed
     aicguy153 : ok
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Note, this doesn't happen to WHOLE SPECIES, it only happens to groups of unlucky creatures who happen to be in the same area at the same time.
     aicguy153 : damien, at that point i was talking to the whole room as a whole
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, once again you make an argument from ignorance.
     aicguy153 : and right after, i said that i didnt mean everyone, just the ones acting like zed
     aicguy153 : but i guess you can't read
     LOG DATA Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:19:57 damien_the_demon_kitty, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, er, this has to do with fossilization...how?
     damien_the_demon_kitty : aicguy153 : i don't think so damien. i'm pointing out your flaws <-----And how is this not talking to me?
     aicguy153 : damien it doesnt. so can we go back to the topic now?? ok thanks
     aicguy153 : your as in the room
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, why is it you try to hop to another topic whenever I debunk your strawman from the current topic?
     aicguy153 : and my next statement clarified it
     aicguy153 : stop trying to chop up my arguments into small parts that would change the overall meaning
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, I'm sorry, I was the one on topic, as soon as I addressed your strawman, you jumped back to the namecalling topic.
     LOG DATA Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:20:57 damien_the_demon_kitty, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     aicguy153 : damien, i dont even care about you
     aicguy153 : ok?
     aicguy153 : so lets move it along
     aicguy153 : damn
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, I'd be willing to if you would quick being evasive and lying.
     damien_the_demon_kitty : *quit.
     aicguy153 : damien, then question your self for believing or not believing me
     xombiediabhal : aicguy153, you say the missing links never existed?
     aicguy153 : but i know what i said
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, so do I, I have it logged.
     aicguy153 : xonbied, most missing links are made up
     LOG DATA Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:21:57 damien_the_demon_kitty, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     aicguy153 : i think a few are still out there though
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, name a few.
     xombiediabhal : aicguy153, what about: Sahelanthropus tchadensis, Ardipithecus ramidus, Australopithecus anamensis, Australopithecus afarensis, Kenyanthropus platyops, Australopithecus africanus, Australopithecus garhi, Australopithecus aethiopicus, Australopithecus robustus, Australopithecus boisei, Homo habilis, Homo georgicus, Homo erectus, Homo ergaster, Homo antecessor, Homo heidelbergensis
     xombiediabhal : those missing links existed.
     aicguy153 : damien i can name a lot
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, name a few of the 'made up' missing links.
     aicguy153 : just all the missing links that are out there... most have never existed
     aicguy153 : brb
     xombiediabhal : aicguy153, um, no. i just mentioned missing links that did exist.
     xombiediabhal : am i on ignore?
     LOG DATA Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:22:57 damien_the_demon_kitty, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     damien_the_demon_kitty : xombie, I don't think so, he did address you by name.
     aicguy153 : xombies, you just mentioned few of the missing links which are not missing anymore. so they arnt missing links
     aicguy153 : i was referring to links that are actually missing
     aicguy153 : :)
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, name...a...few.
     aicguy153 : why do you want me to do that damien?
     xombiediabhal : aicguy153, well duh. there aren't links actually missing.
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, because it would actually BACK UP YOUR ARGUMENT WITH EVIDENCE OF YOUR CLAIM.
     LOG DATA Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:23:57 damien_the_demon_kitty, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     aicguy153 : xombied, a lot of people think there are
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Christ Aic, why else would I want you to do it?
     aicguy153 : the evidence is that they are fucking missing
     aicguy153 : lol
     aicguy153 : hello
     aicguy153 : they are made up
     larry_isley : missing assumes they exist
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, NAME A FEW.
     aicguy153 : damien, do the missing links have names?
     larry_isley : so either they aren't existant or they are missing
     aicguy153 : you cant give it a name unless you find it
     damien_the_demon_kitty : aicguy153 : xonbied, most missing links are made up <----Which ones? Name some.
     xombiediabhal : aicguy153, "the missing link" is a term from before australopithecus afarensis was found.
     aicguy153 : those are the rules
     LOG DATA Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:24:57 damien_the_demon_kitty, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     xombiediabhal : aicguy153, australopithecus afarensis was the literal "missing link".
     aicguy153 : thats why i said most and not all. so thanks for quoting me
     xombiediabhal : aicguy153, what missing links are there?
     aicguy153 : you were looking for a link between species. and if you look long enough you will find it, and say that that was the missing link
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, I never accused you of saying 'all', now back up your claim.
     LOG DATA Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:25:57 damien_the_demon_kitty, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     aicguy153 : unfortunately, in 99 percent of the missing link cases, you havnt had that kind of luck
     aicguy153 : :)
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, shall I point out again the rarity of fossilization?
     deanj19504 : Missing Link: Jawbone of an ass, that someone dug up, claimed from this jawbone that it walked upright, had a nagging wife, 2 kids, a second mortgage and was having an affair with his secretary
     xombiediabhal : aicguy153, you have failed to make your case.
     aicguy153 : i didnt say you accused me of saying all
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Especially in a case where the production of evidence only happens in rare cases.
     xombiediabhal : aicguy153, you have yet to name the supposed "missing link"?
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, once again you are being evasive.
     LOG DATA Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:26:57 damien_the_demon_kitty, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     aicguy153 : i mentioned that i said most b/c you mentioned the name of a missing link that was found
     damien_the_demon_kitty : What are these 'made up missing links' you keep talking about?
     xombiediabhal : aicguy153, you have yet to actually explain what in the hell you are trying to say.
     aicguy153 : i understand the rarity of fossilization with some so called missing links
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, it's not just 'with some so called missing links', it's will ALL ORGANISMS.
     aicguy153 : i also understand and fully know that many fossiles have been found of certain species
     LOG DATA Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:27:57 damien_the_demon_kitty, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     aicguy153 : so its not rare when it comes to real creatures that existed
     aicguy153 : and not the so called missing links
     deanj19504 : NEWSFLASH: In
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, LMAO, I've already debunked that TWICE
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, you really are stupid.
     aicguy153 : i guess you want specific cases... but i'm talking about species as a whole
     aicguy153 : as in all of the ones that existed on this planet
     aicguy153 : and the ones you people make up, to try to link a fake chain
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, there are no species that have been fossilized as a whole.
     LOG DATA Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:28:57 damien_the_demon_kitty, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     damien_the_demon_kitty : That's the second time I've said that.
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, which ones have we made up?
     aicguy153 : and thats the second time you didnt have to say that
     aicguy153 : because i already knew it
     aicguy153 : and i never said anything against it
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, if you already knew it, why are you implying that you don't?
     aicguy153 : but some species have been fossilized in mass numbers
     xombiediabhal : scifinbible, neanderthal didn't have skull deformation. it simply had a larger cranial capacity.
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, in very specific circumstances.
     aicguy153 : i didnt. you are the one making false implications
     LOG DATA Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:29:57 damien_the_demon_kitty, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     deanj19504 : NEWSFLASH: In Africa today scientists revealed that while excavating for fossils of 'early humanoids' they discovered a bone that has no significance at all. ( newcast you will never see)
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, is it that hard to understand that it DOESN'T happen to ALL species?
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, what false implications have I made?
     aicguy153 : dean, that is newscast that i wouldnt want to see
     aicguy153 : to be honest with you
     damien_the_demon_kitty : And when are you going to get around to giving us more details on these 'made up missing links'?
     aicguy153 : its not hard to understand that it doesnt happen to all species. but i see its hard for you to understand that i already understood this
     LOG DATA Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:30:57 damien_the_demon_kitty, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, obviously you don't, your quotes imply that.
     xombiediabhal : damien_the_demon_kitty, i think aicguy153 is ken.
     damien_the_demon_kitty : If you want, I can give you the ones that do.
     aicguy153 : damien, i dont know. what false implications have you made? and what false implications have i made?
     aicguy153 : i cant give you details on missing links. duh
     aicguy153 : they are made up
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, you're the one saying I made false implications, now back that claim up.
     aicguy153 : i'm ken? lol, who the f is ken?
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, then tell us how they're made up.
     LOG DATA Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:31:57 damien_the_demon_kitty, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     xombiediabhal : yep, aicguy153 is definitely ken.
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Show us where and when they were made up.
     bluejene : ..yes
     aicguy153 : :)) cool, i'm someone else now
     aicguy153 : i guess i wasnt individual enough for you guys to realize i'm my own person instead
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, you're evading again.
     LOG DATA Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:32:57 damien_the_demon_kitty, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     aicguy153 : i don't know how they are made up. scientists make them up
     aicguy153 : lol
     xombiediabhal : see? it's ken.
     aicguy153 : you should ask them that
     aicguy153 : i'm sure they would have the answer for you
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, which scientists? Give us some actual instances of this happening.
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, they're not making the claim, YOU ARE.
     aicguy153 : the ones who believe in evolution
     damien_the_demon_kitty : You are the one who has to back it up, because it is YOUR CLAIM.
     aicguy153 : damien, you are all here making claims, and so do they
     LOG DATA Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:33:57 damien_the_demon_kitty, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, great, that narrows it down to several THOUSAND.
     aicguy153 : i have backed it up. but theres nothing to back up when it comes to made up links that have never been found
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, and what claims have I made that I haven't BACKED UP yet/
     damien_the_demon_kitty : ?
     aicguy153 : so what do you want me to say???
     aicguy153 : lol
     aicguy153 : well everyone i gtg. hopefully the next time i come you guys can actually make valid points
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, how about names of scientists who made up the links, what links they made up, and publications that have information on how they made them up?
     aicguy153 : bye
     LOG DATA Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:34:57 damien_the_demon_kitty, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     larry_isley : ok AIC, I'll hang with you here, we haven't found any of the links you are looking for, so now what?
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, you fucking moron, run away.
     aicguy153 : damien, why dont you find their names. your the one on their side
     aicguy153 : damien i gtg. i was here long enough and went against the whole room
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, I'm not making the claim, you are.
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, you coward, run away.
     aicguy153 : damien, your claim counters mine
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, you lost horribly.
     aicguy153 : damien what did i lose?
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Not a single point you made was backed up.
     aicguy153 : i still have the same belief. you still have your same belief
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, everything you claimed.
     LOG DATA Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:35:57 damien_the_demon_kitty, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     aicguy153 : damien, i think i made valid points that made the room think more clearly
     damien_the_demon_kitty : All your claims were either readily debunked, or lost by default when you refused to back them up.
     aicguy153 : except for you and a handfull that is
     aicguy153 : but you havnt said anything new. well i really gtg. ttyl. bye
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Aic, are you leaving or not?
     xombiediabhal : aicguy153, no one in the room trusts you except scifinlies.
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Looks like another claim you failed to back up.
     damien_the_demon_kitty : Okay, that's one for gremlin.net.
     LOG DATA Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:36:57 damien_the_demon_kitty, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     

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