Posted by Alcyonian [203.98.50.24 - ] on 30 September 2003 at 02.40.41 ZuluTime:

In Reply to: Dusty the Scholar posted by Alcyonian on 29 September 2003 at 10.30.15 ZuluTime:

I need to thank her. I went to go and research some more on the Jew/Levitic Gene and came up with two others. I also decided to find the genealogy via different biblical sources about Jesus, from Adam to Abraham to Jesus. And finally went and talked to various Jews and also got given a few authoritative Jewish cites. Dusty did come back, I asked her to continue our discussion and she ran. So I will post up the gist of my findings/research here.

Original assertion >> Alcyonian : All Jews are of the Davidic line.

Counter assertion >> dust_loves_humble_prince : People convert to Judaism. Then they have sex and produce Jews who are not from David-whats-his-face, There is no pure jew bloodline.

Note: I did NOT mention “pure” bloodlines. And they are from “David” what’s his name.

Scientists have tracked genes in Jews (Ashkenazi and Sephardi) through genetic disorders. They track two different ways. 1. Founder effect where this relates to Jews that immigrated around Eastern Europe at the time of Diaspora and their ancestors. 2. Genetic Drift where there is an increase in frequency of the genes for the disorder in that group. Scientists state because Jews tend not to marry outside of their faith and community, the relatively high frequencies of genes among Jews did not pass into other communities. Nor were these genes diluted by the introduction of outside genes or the blending of outside genes. [Chicago Center for Jewish Genetic Disorders]

This is stating that no matter who a Jew fucks on this planet, this particular gene will remain undiluted.

Because the cohen genetic signature is rare or absent in all non-Jewish populations tested so far, the findings support the Lemba tradition of Jewish ancestry. Goldstein said his findings would be published in the American Journal of Human Genetics. http://www.uoregon.edu/~jbloom/race/general/lemba.htm

This was based on studies of Priests that come of the line of Abraham.

Genealogy of Jesus from Adam and the lineage of Mary and Joseph to King David. Adam, Seth, Enos, Cainan, Mahaleel, Jared, Enoch, Methusaleh, Lamech, Noah, Shem, Arphaxad, Cainan, Sala, Eber, Peleg, Ragau, Saruch, Nahor, Terah, ABRAHAM (Father of the Hebrews). Isaac, Jacob (Father of the Israelites). Judah (Father of the Jews), Pharez, Esrom, Aram, Amminadab, Naason, Salmon, Boaz, Obed, Jesse, KING DAVID, Solomon, Rehoboam, Asa, Josophat, Ahab, Joram, Ozias, Joatham, Achaz, Ezekias, Manasses, Amon, Josias, Jehoikim, JECHONIAS (cursed line), Zerubbabel, Abiud, Eliakim, Azor, Mattathias, Achim, Eliud, Mattathias/Eleazer (Mattathias = Joseph and Eleazer = Mary). Matthan, Jacob, Joseph and JESUS.

     The original name for the people we now call Jews was Hebrews. The word "Hebrew" (in Hebrew "Ivri") is first used in the Torah to describe Abraham (Gen. 14:13). The word is apparently derived from the name Eber, one of Abraham's ancestors. Another tradition teaches that the word comes from the word "eyver," which means "the other side," referring to the fact that Abraham came from the other side of the Euphrates, or referring to the fact Abraham was separated from the other nations morally and spiritually.

The word "Jew" (in Hebrew, "Yehudi") is derived from the name Judah, which was the name of one of Jacob's twelve sons. Judah was the ancestor of one of the tribes of Israel, which was named after him.
     It is important to note that being a Jew has nothing to do with what you believe or what you do. A person born to non-Jewish parents who has not undergone the formal process of conversion but who believes everything that Orthodox Jews believe and observes every law and custom of Judaism is still a non-Jew, even in the eyes of the most liberal movements of Judaism, and a person born to a Jewish mother who is an atheist and never practices the Jewish religion is still a Jew, even in the eyes of the ultra-Orthodox. In this sense, Judaism is more like a nationality than like other religions, and being Jewish is like a citizenship.

http://www.jewfaq.org/whoisjew.htm

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