06 July 2003 at 14.34.05 ZuluTime
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Posted by Gremlin [12.211.200.127 - 12-211-200-127.client.attbi.com] on 06 July 2003 at 14.34.05 ZuluTime:
Tell me this isn't BangBang....
LOG DATA Sun, 6 Jul 2003 08:03:12 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1 --Gremlin
gremlin_net : mahamayuri: you seem to have me confused with an antitheist.
oooler : what is light ..without dark?
blameless_vestal : because it sounds boring
oooler : foul tasting farie!
gremlin_net : mahamayuri: I'm an atheist. I'm 'without theism'. I don't believe in deities. And, since no one knows whether deities exist, everyone's agnostic--'without knowledge'.
LOG DATA Sun, 6 Jul 2003 08:04:12 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
mahamayuri : first of all. the believe in gods or deities and its studies is not called theology?
oooler : i am the lord of darkness!
oooler : really
gremlin_net : mahamayuri: wrong.
mahamayuri : Turn on the lighst for the Lord of darkness... :)) he he he
oooler : noooo
claytablets20022002 : what you don't understand is that it don't hurt to die , it may hurt until you die though
oooler : lol
gremlin_net : mahamayuri: what in hell are you talking about?
oooler : you can go to hell for dying!
mahamayuri : no hell. I am not an hell believer... :))
LOG DATA Sun, 6 Jul 2003 08:05:12 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
mahamayuri : he he
oooler : is no hell
oooler : noper
oooler : myth
claytablets20022002 : nope no hell no life after death
oooler : yep
mahamayuri : kristjan myth.
oooler : you dead that's it!
gremlin_net : Hell is terrorist propoganda, designed recently to persuade people who didn't care about going to heaven.
LOG DATA Sun, 6 Jul 2003 08:06:12 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
blameless_vestal : dlphnsoup it qwould be nice if everything was like that....either love or hate, dark or light, black or white
blameless_vestal : Please join me in reality
oooler : we are all greys!
mahamayuri : Does it means that if we don't pay the energy (light) bills, since we will end in darkness at nights (unless we light a candle), we will end into an hellish state?
celestial_zephyr : im not a grey
celestial_zephyr : i dont ever want to see a grey
oooler : i abducted you last week remember
oooler : ?
claytablets20022002 : to not exist does still bothers me a little but that comes from my christian roots
gremlin_net : celestial_zephyr: you're grey to me--I'm colourblind >:)
blameless_vestal : dlphnsoup, no offense, but the Bible is pretty clear in it's description of hell. I hope you aren't questioning God's word,
LOG DATA Sun, 6 Jul 2003 08:07:12 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
oooler : hey when you're not there you dont feel
celestial_zephyr : Well peace all.
oooler : so who cares?
oooler : just gone
mahamayuri : Conflict is natural in an discussion.
blameless_vestal : The Bible describes hell throughout
celestial_zephyr : the bible never even says the word hell
mahamayuri : It is just that insults when one don't have arguements to disagree IS CHILDISH.
celestial_zephyr : not one time
oooler : actually the word is derived from "sheol" a hebrew term for grave
LOG DATA Sun, 6 Jul 2003 08:08:12 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
blameless_vestal : KJV Bible is the ONLY Bible to use
spherical_bastards : ha
celestial_zephyr : God is .
blameless_vestal : And it mentions hell a loy
spherical_bastards :
celestial_zephyr : find the word hell in the bible
gremlin_net : Dusty: dlpnsoup, who admits to not understanding the Hebrew etymology, claims that a knowledge of Hebrew etymology is required to understand the bible. It's how he gets around all the things disproving the bible and claims that it's a true story. He's a known fraud. He's also a known booter.
blameless_vestal : dlphnsoup, you just pick the verse you like the best huh? You don't like the verses about everlasting torment, unqeunchable thirst and flames?
oooler : the word was interpreted
blameless_vestal : I LOVE that:D
LOG DATA Sun, 6 Jul 2003 08:09:12 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
oooler : hella hellan is anglo-saxon
oooler : no thats Gehenna
blameless_vestal : Knowing hebrew isn't everything, especially if you're Xtian, you throw all that jew crap away anyway
oooler : and it appears only 2x
celestial_zephyr : gotta run . Church you know . God requires worship and giveing of ones self completely . once you do this you will recive his gifts .
christian_stunder : Jew Crap?
christian_stunder : lol
mahamayuri : yup, but this anglo saxon word comes from the Old Norse word Hel, and this was just a place for the dead ones. Not a place of punnishment.
LOG DATA Sun, 6 Jul 2003 08:10:12 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gremlin_net : oooler: there was [and, to a slight degree, still is] a judaic sect which believed in a sort of hell. But they've never been in the majority.
oooler : hel: to cover over ,to bury
blameless_vestal : dlphnsoup, what about 'everlasting torment'......isn't that descriptive enough?
claytablets20022002 : the one thing I have against the christians and the jews is....... they all want to control the world that is there big agenda
oooler : tormentor is no more than jailer
oooler : matt 18:34
gremlin_net : claytablets20022002: your problem is with homosapiens, then.
oooler : to be bound
LOG DATA Sun, 6 Jul 2003 08:11:12 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
oooler : no more to live
mahamayuri : I am not a jew. But I don't see jews waking me up 7:00am at sundays to persuade me to choose between their religion and Hell.
blameless_vestal : dlphnsoup, it doesn't sound pleasent, and doesn't sound fair
mahamayuri : So, I guess it is a christian problem.
shlomo_aronovitz : we jews like to sleep in on weekends
blameless_vestal : deus
oooler : lucifer is a word used to describe the king of Babylon
mahamayuri : Dyaoss
mahamayuri : wrong
oooler : not some mythical "satan"
LOG DATA Sun, 6 Jul 2003 08:12:12 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
mahamayuri : Lucifer is an latin word. Not a babylonian one.
blameless_vestal : dlphnsoup, the bible tells us about how most people will go to hell.
oooler : God is even writen as "satan" ie opposser
christian_stunder : Everlasting torment or the popular idea of Hell is a myth created by men to control mens minds.Everlasting torment in reality is a selfish want ,a striving that shall never be fullfilled.It should only last as long as a miserable existance on earth
deadman_932 : if you can't have you meat, how can you have you have your pudding?
claytablets20022002 : no I didnt say that
dukkhapax : is away (Auto-Away)
gremlin_net : I don't mind jews much. Jews say some really funny things about christians, which is good. And jews don't actually dislike atheists. We get along fine.
oooler : are you foolish?
christian_stunder : If thou chooseth_uth to be miserable youre going to getit in other words
zedechiah_the_messiah : "If you don't eat your meat how can you have any pudding"
oooler : of course it's not babylonian
mahamayuri : Jews are more tolerant with other religions and atheism than kristjans.
LOG DATA Sun, 6 Jul 2003 08:13:12 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
zedechiah_the_messiah : "You. Yes, you"
guitar_1996 : fuck you usA
mahamayuri : oh... another anti usa...
gremlin_net : Muslims annoy me a bit. They mostly just hate christians, like everyone else. But they also seem to dislike atheists.
deadman_932 : mother? can i trust the government?
oooler : guitar origin?
spherical_bastards : christmas isn't "christs" b day,
claytablets20022002 : needs coffee
zedechiah_the_messiah : "kristjans"
zedechiah_the_messiah : wow
mahamayuri : Muslims are just another type of kristjans.
gremlin_net : XMas was just the solstice.
knight_of_baawa : zed
zedechiah_the_messiah : Knight
LOG DATA Sun, 6 Jul 2003 08:14:12 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
blameless_vestal : Muslims think they're soooo much better than all western society
spherical_bastards : some don't shlomo .
oooler : hey guitar let me shove my huge 14" fist up your ass k? i'm in the mood for a fight!!!
deadman_932 : she won't let you fly, but she might let you sing
blameless_vestal : They're fucking barbarians, and I wouldn't mind so much, if they weren't always bugging my lifestyle
gremlin_net : Dusty: actually, the minority of muslims are problematic. Most of them are almost buddhist.
mahamayuri : People may believe in whatever they want, but when they use the force to make others believe in what they believe, there is a need of a counteraction!!!
christian_stunder : Yeah DUsty the arrogance is shocking especially when you hear from muslims how peacefull and humble true Islam is
spherical_bastards : nope he lives in florida .
LOG DATA Sun, 6 Jul 2003 08:15:12 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
deadman_932 : ahhhhhh, the wall
oooler : join the fuckin world
spherical_bastards : its A OK
spherical_bastards : lol
blameless_vestal : gremlin : I don't ever talk to those muslims
blameless_vestal : same as the Xtians.....most of them are normal people, and dobn't some here
blameless_vestal : don't
blameless_vestal : come
deadman_932 : is it good enough for me?
knight_of_baawa : has been up for over 2 hours already, and feels like going back to bed
gremlin_net : Dusty: no one does. They keep to themselves. You only hear from and about the fucking idiots.
blameless_vestal : yea
christian_stunder : I think Islam is even more a sexist religion than Christianity
oooler : who's in Florida?
LOG DATA Sun, 6 Jul 2003 08:16:12 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
mahamayuri : yesterday, just because I disagreed with a muslim bastard here, and he began to insult me, and I denounced him to yahoo abuse, this idiot attempted to hack my computer. Is it what they call honour and fairness?
mahamayuri : wrong.
blameless_vestal : stunder I don't, I just think Xtianity has had time to mingle with other, better views
mahamayuri : moon is a symbol of change, light inside the darkness of the night.
LOG DATA Sun, 6 Jul 2003 08:17:12 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gremlin_net : christian_stunder: islam is no more sexist than christianity. It's just more closely followed.
oooler : i think ALL religions should be done away with!
mahamayuri : The moon was a good symbol since the prehistorical times. It is not property of the islam.
christian_stunder : Point taken,Ive read your examples of Christianity and the way they bash women but I notice another side ,for example the celebration of woman as mothers wives and councellors
claytablets20022002 : I think your right darkness
gremlin_net : christian_stunder: that's not a christian thing.
LOG DATA Sun, 6 Jul 2003 08:18:12 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
mahamayuri : many pre-christians religions aren't sexists.
occultist_in_black : Greetings
gremlin_net : christian_stunder: christianity has no tolerance for women. A christian with tolerance for women is ignoring his bible.
christian_stunder : Well Dlphin soup I disagree,Christianity to a lesser extennt than islam is full of examples of woman being treated as chattel
LOG DATA Sun, 6 Jul 2003 08:19:12 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
oooler : i know i'm right
oooler : look at all the shit from them
christian_stunder : not cattle
spherical_bastards : yes
oooler : in Texas
christian_stunder : read it again
zedechiah_the_messiah : amazingly enough Esther never once refers to god. and its not a prophetic book
spherical_bastards : this is true
mahamayuri : What islam do now with women is not different with what kristendoom did with women in middleages.
gremlin_net : Comparing christians to christianity is like comparing Americans to the constitution. Notice how few Americans want to tolerate guns *and* abortions.
LOG DATA Sun, 6 Jul 2003 08:20:12 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
zedechiah_the_messiah : ...and trying to make the exception the rule doesnt ever change that its still the exception, not the rule
claytablets20022002 : big Z
oooler : gremlin?
gremlin_net : What.
zedechiah_the_messiah : Clay
oooler : abortions?
oooler : where is that in the constuitution?
gremlin_net : oooler: abortions are legal. Guns are legal. Americans are typically for one and against the other.
oooler : not i
LOG DATA Sun, 6 Jul 2003 08:21:12 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
zedechiah_the_messiah : Dlp, um, thru the entirety of those cultures?
oooler : i say kill em' all
christian_stunder : Well like my spirituality and my love for the USA I am an individual.I believe in the right to bear arms,I also believe in a womans right to an abortion.
gremlin_net : oooler: me too. Abortions and guns serve similar purposes. Then again, I'm not American.
zedechiah_the_messiah : laughs
zedechiah_the_messiah : hahahaah
oooler : in todays world abortion is a favor
claytablets20022002 : think about it god cursed man and made women pay for it with the pain of child birth
knight_of_baawa : zed, you're just using man's logic
spherical_bastards : yeah me and jfire read that
knight_of_baawa : You know that
spherical_bastards : lastnight
zedechiah_the_messiah : i know Knight, i know. im a very naughty messiah
knight_of_baawa : very naughty
LOG DATA Sun, 6 Jul 2003 08:22:12 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
christian_stunder : I believe in a god of my understanding but I dont feel the slightest bit guilty for laying a stinky shit in a church bathroom
oooler : american or not you're still a petty human
christian_stunder : (In fact I take a perverse pleasure in that)
oooler : impotent and useless
gremlin_net : oooler: we're still testing for that one. There are those who suggest otherwise.
atomicpunk29037 : I belive in God
gremlin_net : atomicpunk29037: sorry to hear that; hope you get better....
sheepsgobang : christians wear clown shoes :o)
mahamayuri : and what?
oooler : what do you do then human?
atomicpunk29037 : and God has helped me get out of my alcohol addiction
claytablets20022002 : rob which god
zedechiah_the_messiah : :Dlp, thats mans logic youre using. not gods logic
LOG DATA Sun, 6 Jul 2003 08:23:12 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
oooler : what makes you soooo important?
claytablets20022002 : there were many gods
gremlin_net : oooler: who are you talking to?
zedechiah_the_messiah : laughs @ Dlp
knight_of_baawa : You cannot hate that which does not exist, dlp
oooler : any of you
gremlin_net : atomicpunk29037: based on what evidence?
gremlin_net : oooler: you're not human?
atomicpunk29037 : I know God exist through self experience
oooler : no
zedechiah_the_messiah : i heard atheists spend all day shaking their fists at god
zedechiah_the_messiah : laughs
sheepsgobang : I am important because I am a typing sheep
gremlin_net : atomicpunk29037: not evidence; Strike One.
atomicpunk29037 : I dont need a book to tell me he does
knowledge_309 : Rob, what self experience?
atomicpunk29037 : or a scientist to tell me
LOG DATA Sun, 6 Jul 2003 08:24:12 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
christian_stunder : lol zed
knowledge_309 : what god?
gremlin_net : atomicpunk29037: not evidence; Strike Two.
oooler : i
oooler : am
gremlin_net : oooler: which species are you, then?
oooler : el
atomicpunk29037 : stirke two this isnt a baseball game
atomicpunk29037 : lol
oooler : god
gremlin_net : atomicpunk29037: not evidence; Strike Three. Here's your shirt: http://fraud.grem.tv
gremlin_net : oooler: I'm waiting on the species.
LOG DATA Sun, 6 Jul 2003 08:25:12 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
oooler : you have species
oooler : because you die
sheepsgobang : el god ?????
gremlin_net : oooler: are you a chordatan?
oooler : i am no species human
oooler : i never die
knowledge_309 : thats nice darkness.
gremlin_net : sheepsgobang: 'el god' is Spanish for 'the moron'.
christian_stunder : Yeah well atomic punk the reas0on for this room is the debate ina very undiciplined sense.You make a claim you need to be ready to get manipulated into defending it(not that you have to)
gremlin_net : oooler: so you're not a chordatan?
sheepsgobang : a typing no species,...almost as impressive as a typing sheep
christian_stunder : but you know this.
knight_of_baawa : prefers the Spanish Archer--- el bow
atomicpunk29037 : this room is above my head I admit christian lol
LOG DATA Sun, 6 Jul 2003 08:26:12 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
oooler : lol
spherical_bastards : yes i know .
gremlin_net : oooler: Yes or No will do.
oooler : no
oooler : :))
christian_stunder : Oh shit its sooooo much fun though
gremlin_net : oooler: so you admit that you're spineless.
oooler : :))
christian_stunder : Shlomoooo!!!!!!!!! WhoOooOoHOooOoO
oooler : i am eternal
knowledge_309 : blind faith is bullshit.
gremlin_net : oooler: you're a troll.
oooler : without form
christian_stunder : Goddamm right buddy!!!!
sheepsgobang : darkness have you got fingers or hooves?
gremlin_net : oooler: here you go. http://troll.grem.tv
LOG DATA Sun, 6 Jul 2003 08:27:12 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
oooler : i can transform into anything
oooler : but i always am
knight_of_baawa : laughs at dlp
gremlin_net : oooler: can you transform into an intellectual?
knowledge_309 : dlp, xianity is both.
claytablets20022002 : you know why christians are called sheep don't you ?
zedechiah_the_messiah : laughs
claytablets20022002 : dlp lol
knowledge_309 : <---not a sheep.
christian_stunder : YEs but its an excellent idea to be self aware enuff to shut your maouth(and be humble enuff to know so)when the brain isnt running
sheepsgobang : can you transform into a deep pan pepperoni pizza
gregglesau : jesus was a lamb
zedechiah_the_messiah : what a load
oooler : intellectual on human terms means insects
knowledge_309 : <---a wolf
oooler : foolish specs
LOG DATA Sun, 6 Jul 2003 08:28:12 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gregglesau : jesus was also japanese
oooler : non awares
sheepsgobang : all humans are sheep????? wtf????,.... logic gap alert
oooler : impotent useless forms
gremlin_net : oooler: great. You will either transform into a creature with at least ten percent of my intelligence or be gonged for criminal idiocy.
spherical_bastards : no i haven't
oooler : gremlin...you bore me
claytablets20022002 : because christians like sheep follow very quietly
LOG DATA Sun, 6 Jul 2003 08:29:12 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
sheepsgobang : thats like saying all buffalos are whash hand bisons
gremlin_net : oooler: you've made your decision, then. Here you go: http://tard.grem.tv
gremlin_net : oooler is gonged for criminal idiocy.
sheepsgobang : sheep dont always follow,..sometimes they go bang
candice2027 : atheists like hyenas follow loudly
alcyonian : Candice: Similar to how gravity follows intimately to your cellulite?
LOG DATA Sun, 6 Jul 2003 08:30:12 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
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