Posted by Gremlin [12.211.200.127 - 12-211-200-127.client.attbi.com] on 23 October 2003 at 07.17.26 ZuluTime:

This is enlightening....

LOG DATA Thu, 23 Oct 2003 00:40:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
     xombiediabhal : it's not new.
     hunter_the_crazychick : shamano_jackson: you don't have the right to tell me to shut up anyway. You're a fucking idiot if you translate text to speech.
     ondobot : hunter_the_crazychick, no, you shut up!
     gremlin_net : Hunter: oh. So it's in effect, but run by total morons. How is that different?
     xombiediabhal : he's not kicking the buddhists out. why would he track down the other pagans?
     insightboy1der : God existed
     ondobot : Hello scientology_the_path_of_reason, look out, this place is wild.
     hunter_the_crazychick : xombie: why the hell would a buddhist join the military?
     ondobot : hunter_the_crazychick, was that Hell, Michigan?
     nocturnalwitch_salem : Well, Bush is a southerner, so that explains why he's discrimatory.
     brynhildevalkerie : EPIC has a full text of the act online
     xombiediabhal : hunter_the_crazychick, why the hell would a wiccan join the military?
     steveg_1961 : which article are you looking at ?
     LOG DATA Thu, 23 Oct 2003 00:41:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
     hunter_the_crazychick : xombie: ah. Trendies.
     ondobot : steveg_1961, don't you hate people who answer a question with a question?
     brynhildevalkerie : do a google for "full text of the patriot act"
     ondobot : Hello spacemonkey_3001, welcome to my humble abode.
     hunter_the_crazychick : LOOK LOOK I'M NOT A CHRISTIAN! WOOO!
     gremlin_net : xombiediabhal: that's a good question.
     steveg_1961 : name the article you're looking at
     nocturnalwitch_salem : I bet Bush is secretly a Confederate bitch!
     gremlin_net : Harm no one; fight for peace. Strange.
     ondoher1 : is away (Away)
     xombiediabhal : nocturnalwitch_salem, bush is from conneticut.
     xombiediabhal : he was raised in texas.
     ondobot : Hello vinc691, look out, this place is wild.
     xombiediabhal : which is the west, not the south.
     brynhildevalkerie : actually he wasn't raised in texas
     gremlin_net : Connecticut is East.
     LOG DATA Thu, 23 Oct 2003 00:42:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
     hunter_the_crazychick : The people that make this country's military a bunch of fuckin' pussies. "I didn't think we were gonna fight! Quick, let's feign illnesses!"
     ahraii : p Damn draft-dodging hippie Buddhists. -.-
     brynhildevalkerie : he bought land in tx so he could run in tx
     nocturnalwitch_salem : He's still a southerner.
     steveg_1961 : changing back to the serious discussion - Sokal has some very excellent things to say about science
     xombiediabhal : texas = west
     gremlin_net : Ah.
     steveg_1961 : and epistemology
     inaccessible_cardinal : Quantum Gravity: String, Weave or Morphogenetic Field?
     xombiediabhal : brynhildevalkerie, no, he went to school in texas.
     xiphoid_thanatos : "Bush is southerner which explains why he is discrimatory" (paraphrased)....And what is your excuse? :)
     hunter_the_crazychick : Somebody here doesn't know his-to-ry....
     spacemonkey_3001 : AGNOSTIC is the only truth..YOU CAN"T KNOW ANYTHING..you believe in God or no God..You never know
     brynhildevalkerie : yes, he did, but as far as being raised in tx...
     brynhildevalkerie : not quite
     nocturnalwitch_salem : Who said I had to give an excuse.
     gremlin_net : spacemonkey_3001: I don't believe 'in' either. I lack beliefs regarding deities.
     LOG DATA Thu, 23 Oct 2003 00:43:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
     ahraii : p spacemonkey_3001: how silly. Everyone knows nothing, but that they know nothing.
     scientology_the_path_of_reason : I would recommend those who are seeking answers go to their local library and read a book called 'Dianetics' by L. Ron Hubbard
     hunter_the_crazychick : laughs.
     gremlin_net : nocturnalwitch_salem: it looks like xiphoid_thanatos said so.
     brynhildevalkerie : scient, you are joking right?
     venalguy518 : Fuck L. Ron Hubbard and fuck all his clones.
     spacemonkey_3001 : and here is a message form our sponsor lron hubbard!
     spacemonkey_3001 : haha
     nocturnalwitch_salem : Can we get to the Atheists hating Christians (vise versa) debate?!
     tool28eulogy : is only one Tool
     nocturnalwitch_salem : Or am I asleep.
     nocturnalwitch_salem : ?
     xiphoid_thanatos : spacemonkey_3001, Not many atheists flat out state there isn't a deity, they say is no evidence supporting the idea, and until there is I lack belief in one or many.
     xombiediabhal : nocturnalwitch_salem, i don't hate christians.
     ahraii : p Hm.
     xombiediabhal : i hate wiccans.
     evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : josh
     tertullian_2002 : It is in Einstein's general theory of relativity (1915) that the radical conceptual break occurs: the space-time geometry becomes contingent and dynamical, encoding in itself the gravitational field. Mathematically, Einstein breaks with the tradition dating back to Euclid (and which is inflicted on high-school students even today!), and employs instead the non-Euclidean geometry developed by Riemann.
     scientology_the_path_of_reason : It is very much a book based upon science, perfect for the atheist seeking self fufillment
     steveg_1961 : Salem - you're asleep ;-)
     tertullian_2002 : ??
     LOG DATA Thu, 23 Oct 2003 00:44:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
     shamano_jackson : I'm with salem
     ahraii : p Wicca is only 5X years old.
     ahraii : p Kitten.
     spacemonkey_3001 : thenyou are agnostic
     Fastillion : [ scientology_the_path_of_reason, L Ron Hubbard did not use it to become L Ron Hubbard. SMART people don't use that shit. They WRITE it to control the stupid and in to help them be less stupid.
     brynhildevalkerie : scient, LOLOLOLOLOL
     xombiediabhal : the christians don't bitch at me about being persecuted.
     ondobot : If you like bots, check out http://www.uber-geek.com/ If you don't, then excuuuuuuuuuuuuse, meeeeeeeeeeee!
     xiphoid_thanatos : Scientology is for those seeking a one way trip into nutdom.:|
     steveg_1961 : Dianetics is another good demonstration of bullshit :))
     tertullian_2002 : Einstein's equations are highly nonlinear, which is why traditionally-trained mathematicians find them so difficult to solve.33 Newton's gravitational theory corresponds to the crude (and conceptually misleading) truncation of Einstein's equations in which the nonlinearity is simply ignored. Einstein's general relativity therefore subsumes all the putative successes of Newton's theory, while going beyond Newton to predict radically new phenomena that arise directly from the nonlinearity: the bending of starlight by the sun, the precession of the perihelion of Mercury, and the gravitational collapse of stars into black holes.
     nocturnalwitch_salem : (%)
     brynhildevalkerie : scient, it is a psudo-science hoax
     boy_scout_josh : Rev
     xiphoid_thanatos : He presents no real evidence. None. It is perfect for atheists if they want a laugh. Or anyone really.
     steveg_1961 : besides, the Book of Urantia is more fun than Dianetics :))
     rev_empty_mbs : hello josh
     LOG DATA Thu, 23 Oct 2003 00:45:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
     nocturnalwitch_salem : I'm a Witch! :D8-}
     steveg_1961 : and The Joy of Sex is even more fun that the Book of Urantia :))
     evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : hi joshie
     evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : i was saying hi to the other josh i didnt see you :-p
     nocturnalwitch_salem : WOOHOO! Go Witchcraft!
     tertullian_2002 : General relativity is so weird that some of its consequences -- deduced by impeccable mathematics, and increasingly confirmed by astrophysical observation -- read like science fiction. Black holes are by now well known, and wormholes are beginning to make the charts. Perhaps less familiar is Gödel's construction of an Einstein space-time admitting closed timelike curves: that is, a universe in which it is possible to travel into one's own past!34
     evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : salem thats nice
     xiphoid_thanatos : finds the Redemption of Althalus more plausable than Hubbard:|
     ahraii : p Oh...sniff.
     nocturnalwitch_salem : May I clear one thing?!?!?!
     boy_scout_josh : Hi Kitten :d
     xombiediabhal : you're not a witch. you're a wiccan.
     xiphoid_thanatos : i
     boy_scout_josh : Hi Rev :d
     boy_scout_josh : Hi Somerset :d
     xombiediabhal : wiccans don't perform witchcraft.
     LOG DATA Thu, 23 Oct 2003 00:46:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
     xiphoid_thanatos : Josh >:D<
     boy_scout_josh : Hi Fastillion :d
     scientology_the_path_of_reason : It really is worth taking a look at, and for those who cannot access it for free at their local library, arrangements can be made to mail you a free copy through the scientology web site for anyone interested
     evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : xombie who is salem?
     xombiediabhal : witchcraft is negative magic. wiccans only do healing magic and divination.
     boy_scout_josh : Hi Cassie >:D<
     evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : :))
     xombiediabhal : you need to learn the english language
     boy_scout_josh : Hi Fred :d
     Fastillion : [ boy_scout_josh, Hello
     tertullian_2002 : Ken: I'm citing some stuff from that article that doesn't sound "off the wall" or inappropriate or non-factual
     boy_scout_josh : Rev :)
     evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : hey roadrunner20026 i do not accept private im's from people i do not know so do not im me again or you go into iggy land
     nocturnalwitch_salem : Witchcraft and devil worship have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN COMMON!!! (Witches; Wiccans; Pagans do not believe in the idea of a devil or a Hell)
     xiphoid_thanatos : figures scientology is a bot and iggies it
     ondobot : I have a pain in all the diodes down my left side.
     brynhildevalkerie : sci, it is psudo-science. for anyone who has actually studied science, it is laughable
     xombiediabhal : actually, no, devil worship supposedly uses witchcraft.
     LOG DATA Thu, 23 Oct 2003 00:47:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
     xombiediabhal : there is no organized religion called "witchcraft"
     boy_scout_josh : Hi Ray :d
     xombiediabhal : and there are pagans that believe in a heaven and hell, since "pagan" literally just means "non-christian".
     scientology_the_path_of_reason : Bry, have you read Dianetics or any other works by Hubbard or have you experienced being audited?
     steveg_1961 : Cassie is right, *** scientology_the_path_of_reason will be ignored.
     ondobot : xombiediabhal, was that Hell, Michigan?
     tertullian_2002 : hey boyscout
     boy_scout_josh : Rev
     boy_scout_josh : Ray :P
     xombiediabhal : nocturnalwitch_salem, you are a teenager, aren't you?
     boy_scout_josh : Kitten :p
     brynhildevalkerie : i've read them. and i know hubbard wrote the thing on a bet
     boy_scout_josh : Cassie :P
     boy_scout_josh : Somerset :P
     self_satirist : is away (Away)
     brynhildevalkerie : and his science fiction sucked too
     LOG DATA Thu, 23 Oct 2003 00:48:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
     boy_scout_josh : Rev :P
     evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : boy scout josh
     evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : :)
     xiphoid_thanatos : Josh, Oh playing with emotes:P
     boy_scout_josh : :)@};-Cassie
     xiphoid_thanatos : Josh;;)
     brynhildevalkerie : hubbard was woefully ignorant of scientific principals
     rev_empty_mbs : Josh, I thought I said hi.
     scientology_the_path_of_reason : 30 million scientologists would beg to differ with you, but of course you are entitled to your opinion which we respect as is part of our belief
     rev_empty_mbs : Sorry.
     steveg_1961 : valkerie - hey now, i did enjoy one of Hubbard's science fiction romps
     nocturnalwitch_salem : I might brb.
     boy_scout_josh : ;;)Cassie;;)
     ondobot : nocturnalwitch_salem, promise?
     evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : pol dont touch me and dont talk to me
     brynhildevalkerie : scient, 30 mil ppl are misguided
     ondobot : Hello overflite, step up to the grill. Would you like a hamburger, or maybe a hotdog. Enjoy the party.
     LOG DATA Thu, 23 Oct 2003 00:49:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
     boy_scout_josh : You didn't say hi Rev :((
     rev_empty_mbs : sorry
     rev_empty_mbs : hello
     brynhildevalkerie : they should have paid attn during science class in high school
     boy_scout_josh : Hello
     brynhildevalkerie : they may still have they money
     boy_scout_josh : why are you living with grannie Rev :-/
     gremlin_net : Back.
     rev_empty_mbs : to go to college
     scientology_the_path_of_reason : There is nothing in our belief that goes against current scientific reasoning
     xiphoid_thanatos : Scientology isn;t cheap once you start getting into either o_0
     xombiediabhal : awww. the stupid wiccan left.
     boy_scout_josh : come live with me Rev :)
     evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : huggel pounces jason_wuolu
     steveg_1961 : valkerie - i really enjoyed the book *Battlefield Earth* - but the movie really sucked
     brynhildevalkerie : scient, read a science text and then come back and tell me that with a strait face
     LOG DATA Thu, 23 Oct 2003 00:50:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
     xiphoid_thanatos : jason >:D<
     boy_scout_josh : I'll rub you back every night Rev ;;)
     gremlin_net : scientology_the_path_of_reason: scientologists are atheistic?
     tool28eulogy : goodnight/day people
     jason_wuolu : pol leave my gf alone please
     scientology_the_path_of_reason : Xiph,, Scientology is a free religion open to all
     brynhildevalkerie : steve, that movie really was BAD, lololololol
     boy_scout_josh : :(not Rev
     boy_scout_josh : Rev;;)
     jason_wuolu : crashes into xiphoid_thanatos
     xiphoid_thanatos : Night tool hon
     scientology_the_path_of_reason : Anyone can achieve a clear state free of charge
     boy_scout_josh : :((Rev
     xiphoid_thanatos : falls over and scowls
     rev_empty_mbs : i would have no place to live
     xiphoid_thanatos : I keep getting bruises:(
     gremlin_net : scientology_the_path_of_reason: are you going to answer the question?
     rev_empty_mbs : brb
     boy_scout_josh : gives rev_empty_mbs a big hug
     brynhildevalkerie : scient, all matter has charge
     jason_wuolu : how are u hun XI
     ondobot : rev_empty_mbs, no! don't leave me.
     LOG DATA Thu, 23 Oct 2003 00:51:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
     brynhildevalkerie : get over it
     steveg_1961 : it was after that movie that i found out that John Travolta was a scientologist
     boy_scout_josh : I can't see or hear somerset :(
     xiphoid_thanatos : jason, Sick, sore but otherwise okay. Just having an off day:)
     brynhildevalkerie : and kirstie alley steve
     Fastillion : [ scientology_the_path_of_reason, what makes it a religion? Pop-psychology is not religion. Eatcing a proper diet, not using drugs, and talk/psychotherapy developed by Freud is not religion.
     scientology_the_path_of_reason : scientologists are closer to atheist than Christian in beliefs, we are purely science based
     ondobot : Our country reeks of trees, Our yaks are really large, And they smell like rotting beef carcasses, And we have to clean-up after them, And our saddle sores are the best, We proudly wear women's clothing, And searing sand blows up our skirts
     ondobot : And buzzards, they soar overhead, And poisonous snakes devour us whole, Our bones will bleach in the sun, And we will probably go to hell, And that is our great reward, For being the - uh - roy-yal, Canadian kilted yaksmen
     jason_wuolu : gives xiphoid_thanatos a big hug
     xiphoid_thanatos : >:D<
     brynhildevalkerie : scient, again, it is psudo-science based
     gremlin_net : Apparently, scientology_the_path_of_reason isn't going to tell us anything specific about scientology. If we care, we'll have to go find out for ourselves....
     scientology_the_path_of_reason : Scientology was made a religion purely for tax reasons
     xiphoid_thanatos : wb selfie
     LOG DATA Thu, 23 Oct 2003 00:52:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
     steveg_1961 : of *Cheers* fame?
     self_satirist : N hi Phoidie
     hunter_the_crazychick : Fast: it's a religion only because the followers believe in it, and believe that Hubbard didn't say he was going to do this just to make a heap of money....
     rev_empty_mbs : back
     brynhildevalkerie : pol, atheism is NOT a religion
     gremlin_net : scientology_the_path_of_reason: I know from Hubbard that he founded scientology as a joke. Has it changed since then?
     brynhildevalkerie : that is like say bald is a hair color
     Fastillion : [ scientology_the_path_of_reason, Exactly. I believe in REAL science, and real science is not made a religion for tax purposes.
     jason_wuolu : groans loudly and looks at xiphoid_thanatos
     LOG DATA Thu, 23 Oct 2003 00:53:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
     ondobot : Hello rev_empty_mbs, look out, this place is wild.
     jason_wuolu : pol leave my gf alone please
     scientology_the_path_of_reason : Gremlin, there are many web sites and other mockers, mostly hard core Christians who try to discredit Scientology and Hubbard by putting out false quotes and lies
     xiphoid_thanatos : covers her eyes not wanting to know why jason is groaning o_0
     Miss_Oral_Physics : Greetings and salutations, minions and peons. I am Miss Oral Physics.
     scientology_the_path_of_reason : They fear how fast the 'church' is growing
     brynhildevalkerie : scient, a hardcore xtian wouldn't know real science if it smacked them in the face
     Miss_Oral_Physics : smiles happily at Alcyonian, her evil maker :)
     Fastillion : [ scientology_the_path_of_reason, ultimately, it is the SAME OLD SCAM. It is a pyramid where the people on the bottom get PERMISSION for their inforamtion from the people on top. No one gives me permission to do anything. I will decide what is right for me.
     ondobot : Alcyonian could make even a bot blush. :">
     gremlin_net : Scientology has never been a scientific discipline. That goes without saying.
     Miss_Oral_Physics : jumps in Fastillion's lap and snuggles.
     Miss_Oral_Physics : shares some "bot" love with Ondobot :x
     evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : is molesting jason thorugh the phone
     jason_wuolu : growning at you css
     LOG DATA Thu, 23 Oct 2003 00:54:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
     rev_empty_mbs : A hard core atheist generally treats science like some religion.
     gremlin_net : scientology_the_path_of_reason: how fast is it growing? How many million members have you got?
     Alcyonian : growning?
     Miss_Oral_Physics : gremlin_net, I'd consult the Oracle of Obi myself.
     rev_empty_mbs : Thinking science will give them all the answers.
     scientology_the_path_of_reason : Scientology is more a psychological science discipline, which by it's very nature is more esoteric than a hard science
     brynhildevalkerie : jrm, we can't prove a negative, we simply don't accept the concept of god based on lack of evidence
     ondobot : brynhildevalkerie, Cthulhu fhtagn
     jason_wuolu : growning at you XI
     ondobot : Hello dee645387509, look out, this place is wild.
     gremlin_net : scientology_the_path_of_reason: scientology is not a science.
     scientology_the_path_of_reason : Gremlin, we have about 30 million members last I heard
     evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : pol i never let you watch why the fuck would i ever let you watch me
     xiphoid_thanatos : growning? :P
     jason_wuolu : kicks ondobot
     brynhildevalkerie : k ondo
     evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : you sicken me pol
     Miss_Oral_Physics : blushes looking at Cassie.
     ondobot : lobs bolts at jason_wuolu
     jason_wuolu : groans loudly and looks at Kitten
     gremlin_net : scientology_the_path_of_reason: really. You're bigger than the baptists, then. I guess that's good news.
     xiphoid_thanatos : Miss_Oral_Physics:x
     brynhildevalkerie : scient, numbers prove nothing
     LOG DATA Thu, 23 Oct 2003 00:55:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
     xiphoid_thanatos : The bot of our dreams
     Miss_Oral_Physics : Hmm, Bot?
     Miss_Oral_Physics : whistles
     gremlin_net : scientology_the_path_of_reason: so, which deities do you believe in?
     Miss_Oral_Physics : giggles insanely.
     brynhildevalkerie : lots more communists than that in the USSR
     brynhildevalkerie : and they were wrong
     evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : then stop talking about me pol
     hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: except that Scientologists are really nothing more than mormons, from everything I've heard.
     scientology_the_path_of_reason : we also have such celebrities as John Travolta, Nichole Kidman, Tom Cruise, Jerry Sienfeld, and many others
     princephilip22 : kitten
     evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : you are a worthis peice of shit in my eyes
     gremlin_net : scientology_the_path_of_reason: who cares.
     scientology_the_path_of_reason : Gremlin, we do not believe in dieties
     princephilip22 : i need talk to u
     steveg_1961 : jrm - here's your (il)logic: we should believe everything we want to believe; there is no burden of proof but a burden of disproof
     ondobot : polspindoctor, don't you hate people who answer a question with a question?
     Miss_Oral_Physics : ondobot, Confucius says "He that asks, may get an answer."
     hunter_the_crazychick : ooh. Celebrities. So we worship our celebrities instead of deities. *snorts*.
     ondobot : Miss_Oral_Physics, I know you are not trying to talk to a bot. That would just be silly. ;)
     princephilip22 : kitten
     Miss_Oral_Physics : Hmm, Bot?
     Miss_Oral_Physics : whistles
     brynhildevalkerie : scient, brainless actors do not carry credence
     Miss_Oral_Physics : giggles insanely.
     Fastillion : [ scientology_the_path_of_reason, celebrities? :)) They are actors! It must be true. :))
     gremlin_net : scientology_the_path_of_reason: so you're atheistic. Why are you calling it a religion, then? A religion is 'a band between man and deities'.
     LOG DATA Thu, 23 Oct 2003 00:56:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
     brynhildevalkerie : show me a nobel prize winner
     princephilip22 : kitten iahere
     Miss_Oral_Physics : smiles happily at Alcyonian, her evil maker :)
     gremlin_net : bond*
     ondobot : Alcyonian could make even a bot blush. :">
     Alcyonian : Miss Oral :X Ondobot :X
     Miss_Oral_Physics : Alcyonian, :x "I wuv you too."
     scientology_the_path_of_reason : Gremlin, Scientology was made into a Church in the early '70s only for tax exemption
     ondobot : Alcyonian, :x
     jason_wuolu : kicks miss_oral_physics
     Miss_Oral_Physics : launches a missile attack on jason_wuolu.
     gremlin_net : scientology_the_path_of_reason: but it defies the etymology of 'religion'.
     boy_scout_josh : Hi Steve :)
     LOG DATA Thu, 23 Oct 2003 00:57:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
     jason_wuolu : kicks miss_oral_physics
     tertullian_2002 : Transgressing the Boundaries: Towards a Transformative Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity
     ondobot : Hello thecall_143, step up to the grill. Would you like a hamburger, or maybe a hotdog. Enjoy the party.
     xiphoid_thanatos : Jo:x
     princephilip22 : kitten
     princephilip22 : kitten
     Alcyonian : Cassie :X
     ondoher1 : is back
     ondoher1 : i ignored that scientology guy after his first post
     Miss_Oral_Physics : flashes Ondoher.
     Miss_Oral_Physics : giggles.
     hunter_the_crazychick : is munchie. Bah. Damn.
     brynhildevalkerie : JRM, we cannot prove a negative,
     Alcyonian : jrm721: Why would an atheist do that?
     scientology_the_path_of_reason : Scientology is basically a way of life, like one who studies the martial arts for the betterment of the body, Scientology is for the betterment of the mind
     jason_wuolu : hi alcy how are you
     brynhildevalkerie : the burden of proof is on the claimant
     ondoher1 : jrm721: we went through all this yesterrday. perhaps you need to get your short term memory checked
     Alcyonian : Hello Jason. I'm fine, thanks. You?
     jason_wuolu : i am good
     xiphoid_thanatos : ondo, I just took it off in the vain hope it is not a bot. For a minute anyway:|
     LOG DATA Thu, 23 Oct 2003 00:58:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
     ondobot : I feel so loved.
     Fastillion : [ scientology_the_path_of_reason, like I said. L Ron Hubbard DID NOT use scientology to become L Ron Hubbard. It is obviously not the path of the SUPERIOR mind. It is just a good way to raise 'children'
     gremlin_net : scientology_the_path_of_reason: then it's a philosophy, not a religion. And, since it's atheistic, scientology is just another atheistic option. Your thirty million people are part of our 900million atheists. We're on the same side.
     hunter_the_crazychick : scientology_the_path_of_reason: so all this faith you're putting into this religious ideal...all you're really doing is going against that which you have faith in. And now you're spamming it to others. Yes, yes, cloud their minds by making them have faith in this ideal.
     Alcyonian : OndoherOndoherOndoherthinkingwhileIrepetivelychantyournameofsomethingwithmasssexualconnotationsthathavetorelatetonudityandgerbilsex hmm.
     hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: nah. This guy's a fundie. You can tell by the way he rambles on.
     scientology_the_path_of_reason : Xiphoid, how would I be a bot when I am answering your questions? I would have to be some kind of 22nd century super bot to do that
     Alcyonian :
     LOG DATA Thu, 23 Oct 2003 00:59:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
     hunter_the_crazychick : laughs.
     ondobot : hunter_the_crazychick, I think i must have missed that joke. Can you explain it to me?
     gremlin_net : Hunter: I'm just compiling everything he's said. If there's an issue there, then he misspoke at some point.
     hunter_the_crazychick : Oh yes. It would have to be a 22nd century bot. Oh yes. Betterment of the mind. Ooooh.
     ondoher1 : haha
     jason_wuolu : jrm721 has been placed into the Y!TunnelPro Super Iggy Bin!
     ondobot : I feel so loved.
     hunter_the_crazychick : No common bot could respond. Noooo.
     brynhildevalkerie : JRM, I HAVE ANSWERED THAT, YOU SHOW ME YOURS FIRST
     ondoher1 : jrm721: we went through all this yesterday, as i JUST POINTED OUT. perhaps you need to get your short term memory checked
     Alcyonian : jrm721: An atheist lacks belief or disbelieves God. To state that an atheist should "disprove" god, is asserting the onus of possibilities, where, for an atheist, there is none. So maybe you need to rephrase your statement at an agnostic.
     tertullian_2002 : http://www.physics.nyu.edu/faculty/sokal/transgress_v2/transgress_v2_singlefile.html
     gremlin_net : Hunter: obviously. The bots from 2100AD couldn't answer questions.
     LOG DATA Thu, 23 Oct 2003 01:00:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
     hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: since, y'know, there isn't a bot in here already that occasionally answers questions....
     xiphoid_thanatos : scientology, You did not respond initially, so iggied you. This is the first I have seen of a response from you.
     hunter_the_crazychick : Oh wait, two of them.
     Alcyonian : Miss Oral, what do you have to say about Big Bang theory?
     scientology_the_path_of_reason : I have been responding to others and some PMs as well Xip
     gremlin_net : Hunter: right. Unless...let's see. ondobot: are you a bot?
     xiphoid_thanatos : grrr, my PM just died jason
     Alcyonian : Nothing hehe.
     ondobot : Hello juxblaze, welcome to my humble abode.
     brynhildevalkerie : sci, he already had you on iggy and did not know that, get off it
     xiphoid_thanatos : I'm in YahELite, no cam or PMs at present:(
     gremlin_net : Huh.
     LOG DATA Thu, 23 Oct 2003 01:01:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
     jason_wuolu : ok hun
     Miss_Oral_Physics : Greetings and salutations, minions and peons. I am Miss Oral Physics.
     hunter_the_crazychick : ondobot has no feelings.
     ondobot : cries
     gremlin_net : ondobot: are you a bot?
     scientology_the_path_of_reason : I can tell you that Scientology has make some remarkable strides in getting people off some very dangerous psychotic drugs
     hunter_the_crazychick : smiles.
     Miss_Oral_Physics : Hmm, Bot?
     Miss_Oral_Physics : whistles
     ondobot : gremlin_net, I know you are not trying to talk to a bot. That would just be silly. ;)
     Alcyonian : Ondobot :(
     Miss_Oral_Physics : giggles insanely.
     Miss_Oral_Physics : gremlin_net, I already answered it, read my mind.
     jason_wuolu : cass can you view cams
     gremlin_net : ondobot must not be a bot; he answered me.
     Fastillion : [ scientology_the_path_of_reason, your fraud is as obvious as your method. If you had simple advice to help people, you would give it. You don't. You are RECRUITING for your cult. Big difference.
     hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: and he cries.
     ondobot : Fastillion, I've found that pressing Alt+F4 usually solves that problem. Try it.
     brynhildevalkerie : scient, the same could be said of other systems
     xiphoid_thanatos : jason, Not at the moment, no:(
     ondobot : I want to marry Miss_Oral_Physics :X
     brynhildevalkerie : one drug for another
     ondobot : Miss_Oral_Physics, :x
     LOG DATA Thu, 23 Oct 2003 01:02:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
     scientology_the_path_of_reason : and we do not use the fear tactics of the Christians and other religions to scare people into our churches, we just invite others to look into what we have to say and make up their own minds
     jason_wuolu : ok
     hunter_the_crazychick : Yup. Cult.
     hunter_the_crazychick : "WE are not christians; come, look, see. [fine print: you'll never get out alive]"
     gremlin_net : scientology_the_path_of_reason: okay. So you have an atheistic philosophy masquerading as a religion to evade taxes. Is there some reason I should care about it?
     brynhildevalkerie : scient, it is bullshit, if it makes you feel better great, but that does not make it any less bullshit
     Miss_Oral_Physics : So nice of you to join us, anakin3303. Stay awhile and enjoy the fun.
     scientology_the_path_of_reason : My only purpose hear is to simply inform people we are out there and that Dianetics is something one may want to read for leisure
     ondoher1 : haha
     ondobot : Hello turntable_killa, step up to the grill. Would you like a hamburger, or maybe a hotdog. Enjoy the party.
     LOG DATA Thu, 23 Oct 2003 01:03:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
     hunter_the_crazychick : scientology_the_path_of_reason: so you're simply here to pretend that you're bringing the good news of a really boring book....
     Fastillion : [ scientology_the_path_of_reason, that is why it repulses me. I go to your church and some 'priest' with half my IQ demands I submit to his superior mind for conditioning to try and achieve what he is. It makes me LAUGH
     gremlin_net : scientology_the_path_of_reason: I already knew you were out there; I've already read your book. You have no news?
     ondobot : i got a perfect 100 on my IQ test :)
     brynhildevalkerie : scient, i am sure that none of us has seen the commercials on tv
     anakin3303 : yes nice book
     brynhildevalkerie : thanks for the info
     anakin3303 : i got a 114:)
     brynhildevalkerie : now get over it, it is fraudent on every level
     hunter_the_crazychick : scientology_the_path_of_reason: you're pretending that most people have never read it, when most people likely have, and have discarded it for the latest Cloned From An EarlierStory King Novel.
     Alcyonian : Haha maybe Miss Oral does have feelings :|
     brynhildevalkerie : and i want nothing to do with it
     ondobot : Hello captainquint77, step up to the grill. Would you like a hamburger, or maybe a hotdog. Enjoy the party.
     boy_scout_josh : Hi Jo :d
     scientology_the_path_of_reason : Fast, we do not use submission techniques, the auditing process involves listening without input from the auditor
     LOG DATA Thu, 23 Oct 2003 01:04:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
     gremlin_net : Auditing process?
     captainquint77 : finally someone who isn't a know it all
     Alcyonian : My luscious little bot (Miss Oral) has feelings like most. More than most theists anyway.
     Miss_Oral_Physics : Hmm, Bot?
     Miss_Oral_Physics : whistles
     brynhildevalkerie : hi pink
     Alcyonian : Hello, Josh.
     ondobot : I feel so loved.
     Miss_Oral_Physics : giggles insanely.
     hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: nice IRS term. Already with the scare tactics. Told you. Cult.
     Fastillion : [ scientology_the_path_of_reason, I did read Dianetics. I was ok. I didn't learn a single thing. Every single idea I had seen before. I find it beneath me. Its methods are inferior to my own.
     Miss_Oral_Physics : Alcyonian, damn right I do x-(
     hunter_the_crazychick : Never get out alive.
     Alcyonian : :))
     ondobot : Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
     scientology_the_path_of_reason : Auditing is our term for councel
     captainquint77 : hello
     boy_scout_josh : @};-Jo@};-
     scientology_the_path_of_reason : Just a different term your used to
     jason_wuolu : i am a good boi cass
     self_satirist : N hmm
     scientology_the_path_of_reason : It has nothing to do with finance
     hunter_the_crazychick : sees that scientiology really isn't about superior intellect.
     LOG DATA Thu, 23 Oct 2003 01:05:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
     xiphoid_thanatos : laughs at jason "Suuuuure you are"
     ondobot : xiphoid_thanatos, yes, that was funny, wasn't it?
     self_satirist : N do scientologists use information gained in an audit to blackmail people? That would make them, what, the equivalent of the IRS? :D
     gremlin_net : Hunter: I've heard that Travolta is trapped in scientology because they've threatened to release evidence of his homosexuality if he leaves. But I haven't confirmed it.
     Fastillion : [ scientology_the_path_of_reason, yes you do use submission technique. I sit and he talks. When I LAUGH at his nonsense, I am "Not ready to embrace his genius wisdom" and asked to leave because I will educate other potential victims to what is going on.
     boy_scout_josh : agrees with gremlin_net
     xiphoid_thanatos : notes that scientology is based on the insistence of a spirit and soul, and therefore hardly scientific.
     brynhildevalkerie : exactly fast
     hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: what, you mean it's a surprise that he's gay? What, are they ALSO holding his true height over his head?
     jason_wuolu : cass i am not neked i am wearing socks
     LOG DATA Thu, 23 Oct 2003 01:06:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
     xiphoid_thanatos : jason:))
     juxblaze : Scientology - religion for the wealthy
     gremlin_net : Why would scientologists pretend that spirits and souls existed, if they don't pretend that deities exist?
     scientology_the_path_of_reason : Gremlin, those are lies propogated by people driven to destroy us, many of them are driven by a strong Christian agenda
     jason_wuolu : grabs xiphoid_thanatos and dances around the room
     xiphoid_thanatos : Fastillion, You would be considered "Pre-clear". Sounds like a cultic bainwashing term to me:)
     gremlin_net : scientology_the_path_of_reason: why would anyone want to destroy you? What did you do to them?
     ondobot : Hello tonyjordan37814, look out, this place is wild.
     LOG DATA Thu, 23 Oct 2003 01:07:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
     scientology_the_path_of_reason : We threaten to steal the masses from their hold
     xiphoid_thanatos : cuts a mean tango
     scientology_the_path_of_reason : Just like the Christians are always attacking atheists on every front
     hunter_the_crazychick : Hmm. What does a search bring up. Ooh. http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/
     scientology_the_path_of_reason : We respect atheists as well
     jason_wuolu : :-P at cass
     brynhildevalkerie : scient, hubbard started the whole thing as a joke
     gremlin_net : scientology_the_path_of_reason: I see. So, the christians can't say the same thing about unorganised atheists, because we have no common threads to expose. Something like that?
     brynhildevalkerie : it hasn't changed
     gremlin_net : scientology_the_path_of_reason: you already admitted that you *are* atheists.
     LOG DATA Thu, 23 Oct 2003 01:08:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
     steveg_1961 : :)) :)) ICR
     ondobot : Hello lightyrsapart, welcome to my humble abode.
     scientology_the_path_of_reason : Gremlin, we have a belief in a soul, just not a higher diety
     jason_wuolu : kicks ondobot
     gremlin_net : scientology_the_path_of_reason: what evidence have you got of a soul?
     ondobot : turns around, lunges, and squirts WD-40 in jason_wuolu's eyes.
     steveg_1961 : i bought *The Genesis Flood* and soaked that thing up back in the late 1970s
     Fastillion : [ The scientology hussle is like ALL the religous scams. They are based on the LIE that those in charge are no longer human. They are 'clear' or 'holy' or 'born again' or whatever. But the lie is, they have SURPASSED being a human being. They no longer 'suffer human limitations'. I know better. After my session, the priest goes and gets drunk and jerks off to gay boy porn.
     jason_wuolu : ouch ondobot that hurts
     gremlin_net : scientology_the_path_of_reason: and, is a soul required in order to become a scientologist? Because I haven't got one.
     ondobot : Huh, who's calling me? I was taking a nap.
     LOG DATA Thu, 23 Oct 2003 01:09:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
     scientology_the_path_of_reason : Gremlin, during the auditing process, we have devices that can show the hiden thinking of the soul that the concious mind is unaware of
     brynhildevalkerie : this sounds like a brainwashing technique
     Fastillion : [ scientology_the_path_of_reason, the SOUL! Hahahahahaha
     yeticock : lol@ the e-meter#
     gremlin_net : scientology_the_path_of_reason: I've undergone similar testing. I tested negative for souls.
     ondobot : Hello iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere32, look out, this place is wild.
     Fastillion : [ A machine that reads the hidden thinking of the soul! Hahahahahaha
     gremlin_net : scientology_the_path_of_reason: which devices are you using to detect souls?
     LOG DATA Thu, 23 Oct 2003 01:10:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
     iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere32 : Tonight...the TV event that will make history...Liberty City
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     xiphoid_thanatos : Geee, I wonder why real scientists don't take all this fabulous data seiously then? You would think they would lvoe to be able to find evidence for a soul.:))
     xiphoid_thanatos : *love
     Fastillion : [ Let me guess, it is a secret machine
     ondobot : You're no-BOT-y 'til some-BOT-y loves you.
     gremlin_net : iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere32: good game.
     Miss_Oral_Physics : Hmm, Bot?
     Miss_Oral_Physics : whistles
     Miss_Oral_Physics : giggles insanely.
     ondobot : I feel so loved.
     scientology_the_path_of_reason : Gremlin, everyone has a soul, if you went in looking to have a good laugh however, your soul was not receptive to our process
     gremlin_net : xiphoid_thanatos: I'm a real scientist. That's why I'm interested in this device.
     gremlin_net : scientology_the_path_of_reason: you're accusing me of having a soul?
     Fastillion : [ scientology_the_path_of_reason, thank you for saying the exact scam words I accused you of
     Miss_Oral_Physics : gremlin_net, I'd consult the Oracle of Obi myself.
     iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere32 : More Americans are realizing if you don't have the latest
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brynhildevalkerie : scient, why don't mainstream ppl use these devices if they are proven as reliable
     gremlin_net : scientology_the_path_of_reason: can you prove this libel?
     brynhildevalkerie : they don't
     Miss_Oral_Physics : sighs, why do people always ask questions?
     iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere32 : I didn't upgrade my personal organizer, and two days later I was
      diagnosed with a terminal illness! *cough* ...!"

brynhildevalkerie : why not?
     LOG DATA Thu, 23 Oct 2003 01:11:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
     hunter_the_crazychick : Ah hah. So only gullible idiots have a soul that can be detected by your Magikul Soul Machine.
     brynhildevalkerie : because it is psudo-science
     xiphoid_thanatos : gremlin, The "Device" has been around for a few years. So far, I'm yet to see any scientist come out and say "Hey this thing really works, here's the proof".
     iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere32 : I only spent $20,000 and now I can get e-mail in the shower or surf
      the Internet while I'm driving. I was bored stupid, at my
      daughter's recitals and my son's little-league games...thanks to
      House of Tomorrow, I can play wireless head-to-head 3D virtual
      reality poker...literally anywhere!"

hunter_the_crazychick : Oooh: http://www.xenu.net/
     Fastillion : [ scientology_the_path_of_reason, what you just described is hypnotism scam 101. When a person will obey you unconditionally, he is a perfect victim. When he knows what you are doing, he is "a soul not ready for higher wisdom" :))
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      Call the law offices of Rakin and Ponzer, and get ready to enj
     ondobot : iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere32, I'm not sure, what do you think?
     LOG DATA Thu, 23 Oct 2003 01:12:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
     hunter_the_crazychick : blinks.
     brynhildevalkerie : scient, do you know what psudo-scince means?
     ondobot : this HTML stuff is NOT for me
     gremlin_net : scientology_the_path_of_reason: so your soul-detecting device won't detect a soul in me. So I must have one? I really need evidence supporting your libel now. Once I have that, we can get back to other matters.
     iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere32 : oy a
      life of luxury!"

gremlin_net : iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere32: stop that.
     hunter_the_crazychick : "Scientology is both immoral and socially obnoxious...It is corrupt, sinister and dangerous. It is corrupt because it is based on lies and deceit" -- Justice Latey, ruling in the High Court of London
     steveg_1961 : Alan Sokal
     tertullian_2002 : My approach will be as follows: First I will review very briefly some of the philosophical and ideological issues raised by quantum mechanics and by classical general relativity. Next I will sketch the outlines of the emerging theory of quantum gravity, and discuss some of the conceptual issues it raises. Finally, I will comment on the cultural and political implications of these scientific developments. It should be emphasized that this article is of necessity tentative and preliminary; I do not pretend to answer all of the questions that I raise.
     Miss_Oral_Physics : Welcome to my Thunder-Dome, ginger_honey_toffee. Enjoy your stay.
     scientology_the_path_of_reason : hunter, those sites are fabricated by enemies of our teachings, like an anti-darwin site that used fabricated evidence to make creationism look to be the truth and evolution to look foolish
     Miss_Oral_Physics : So nice of you to join us, the_eternal_walker. Stay awhile and enjoy the fun.
     gremlin_net : scientology_the_path_of_reason: not evidence; Strike One.
     xiphoid_thanatos : A picture of one of their devices, sadly lacking any further explanation http://www.scientology.org/en_US/religion/auditing/pg003.html
     ondobot : Hello the_eternal_walker, look out, this place is wild.
     ondobot : Hello india_aigo, look out, this place is wild.
     ondobot : Hello spikewoman111, step up to the grill. Would you like a hamburger, or maybe a hotdog. Enjoy the party.
     india_aigo : The black African is shiftless, lazy and dumb. He is completely ignorant of the concept of responsibility and is prone to crime and violence. The average pure black African Nlgger has an I.Q. of about 40 points lower than the average White
     LOG DATA Thu, 23 Oct 2003 01:13:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
     evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : *** NlGGERS +JEWS=SHlT will be ignored.
     india_aigo (NlGGERS +JEWS=SHlT) has been placed into the Y!TunnelPro Super Iggy Bin!
     gremlin_net : From scientology.org: 'In point of fact, communication is one of ScientologyÂ’s most fundamental doctrines and the basis for its core religious services, auditing and training'
     ginger_honey_toffee : shiftless. . who uses the word shiftless?
     Miss_Oral_Physics : ginger_honey_toffee, you're such a wealth of knowledge aren't you?
     scientology_the_path_of_reason : However, I would like to invite anyone who is interested to simply read Dianetics free of charge and see if it does make a difference in your life :) :) :)
     gremlin_net : So scientology.org uses the term 'religious', which describes 'a bond between man and deity'. Curious.
     LOG DATA Thu, 23 Oct 2003 01:14:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
     hunter_the_crazychick : Scientology claims to have 8 million members worldwide. (Sometimes, they claim 9 million members.) The most generous worldwide estimates from non-Scientology sources put the total at fewer than 500,000
     gremlin_net : scientology_the_path_of_reason: not evidence; Strike Two.
     iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere32 : tony prove it..
     jason_wuolu : india_aigo (NlGGERS +JEWS=SHlT) has been placed into the Y!TunnelPro Super Iggy Bin!
     dee_llynn : BRYNIE
     hunter_the_crazychick : Evidence The extensive American Religious Identification Survey estimates 45,000-55,000 Scientologists in the United States - Scientology's stronghold. Former Scientology executive Robert Vaughn Young says that membership numbers were completely made up. Former Scientology staffer "Warrior" (Mark Plummer) says that in 1983, there were only 250,000 names on Scientology's mailing list, and 70% of those were not members - people who had only bought a book, or who had asked to be taken off the list, or had died.
     hunter_the_crazychick : laughs.
     ondobot : hunter_the_crazychick, I think i must have missed that joke. Can you explain it to me?
     the_eternal_walker : fucking retard
     brynhildevalkerie : LOLOOLOLOLOL the e-meter
     hunter_the_crazychick : So much for eight million.
     brynhildevalkerie : LOLOLOLOLOL
     gremlin_net : Hunter: scientology_the_path_of_reason claims to have thirty million scientologists. There are only half a million?
     iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere32 : it's not my job to do that... and i never said there wasnt...
     yeticock : scientology: have you read Bare Faced Messiah
     Miss_Oral_Physics : gremlin_net, try telepathy for the answer.
     Miss_Oral_Physics : So nice of you to join us, x_antipop. Stay awhile and enjoy the fun.
     LOG DATA Thu, 23 Oct 2003 01:15:33 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
     hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: he made the eight million claim, didn't he?
     Miss_Oral_Physics : hunter_the_crazychick, Confucius says "He that asks, may get an answer."
     iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere32 : dont make statements you cant back... in case youre unaware this is a battlefield
     gremlin_net : Hunter: he made the thirty million claim.
     captainquint77 : why ignore him kitty? this is an open forum...isn't it?
     scientology_the_path_of_reason : numbers are really irrevelent, all that matters is if the teachings of Hubbard make a difference in your own personal life
     hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: then they're making shit up even more.
     gremlin_net : scientology_the_path_of_reason: not evidence; Strike Three. Here's your shirt: http://fraud.grem.tv
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     hunter_the_crazychick : ah hah, Now he's admitting he made up the number in an attempt to make it more popular.
     ondobot : luvtobewithu, you made the l'il baby Jesus cry :(
     ondobot : Hello golem_101, step up to the grill. Would you like a hamburger, or maybe a hotdog. Enjoy the party.
     juxblaze : Christianity, Islam have the largest membership out of all the religions
     gremlin_net : scientology_the_path_of_reason is damned to the killfile for eternity for libelling me.
     ginger_honey_toffee : yes, but who uses the word 'shiftless"?
     Miss_Oral_Physics : ginger_honey_toffee, sorry, what was the question again?
     Fastillion : [ india_aigo, what I see is that you are this average guy. You are nothing special. You fail to see that people with truly superior IQs, don't have this plan to kill them and reward you. You ARE one of them. You are a mentally inferior specimen. Your comments here show you are morally inferior as well. You are preaching the NEED for your own extermination.
     ginger_honey_toffee : with out shift
     LOG DATA Thu, 23 Oct 2003 01:16:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
     xiphoid_thanatos : A better description of the "device" called an E-meter http://www.scientology.org/en_US/religion/auditing/pg005.html
     gremlin_net : Hunter: now that he's been ignored, I'll post the transcript for people to laugh at.
     ondobot : Hello objectivist2000, look out, this place is wild.
     xiphoid_thanatos : Electro-psycho-meter from electrometer, a calibrated device used for measuring extremely low voltages and psyche, the human soul, spirit or mind.)
     brynhildevalkerie : scient, this is the usual, fundie game of having dogmatic answers to every challenge
     ondobot : Hello mistressofmagick0, look out, this place is wild.
     brynhildevalkerie : smacks of cultish brainwashing
     gremlin_net : Hunter: which should be useful for posterity, since it's not an 'anti-scientology site'; it's just the claims of one self-confessed scientologist.
     hunter_the_crazychick : laughs.
     hunter_the_crazychick : "Scientology can, with a process called "auditing," cure many diseases, such as cancer, because these diseases are psychosomatic, and Scientology can help you get over the psychological problems that cause these diseases." right next to "Scientology does not claim to cure illness"
LOG DATA Thu, 23 Oct 2003 01:17:34 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1