| 11 December 2003 at 09.27.43 ZuluTime
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Posted by Gremlin [24.9.24.54 - c-24-9-24-54.client.comcast.net] on 11 December 2003 at 09.27.43 ZuluTime:
This little tard was just fun....
LOG DATA Thu, 11 Dec 2003 01:50:38 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
former_area51_employee : or touch it
former_area51_employee : or smell it
dee_llynn : you can see air measured tho
former_area51_employee : or taste it
former_area51_employee : hear it
rainbowstealer : taste it
hunter_the_crazychick : Colossal frozen rabbits. Yum yum....
former_area51_employee : no you cant
dee_llynn : the effect of wind on a flg
boy_scout_josh : Yellow [-(
jesus4lyf_jm : y0
lady_fart_of_war : i don't have a need for dead animals.........not yet anyhoo
jesus4lyf_jm : y0
jesus4lyf_jm : y0
dee_llynn : you SEE IT
hunter_the_crazychick : Nine pound feeder rabbits.
lady_fart_of_war : frozen rabbits
dee_llynn : you feel it on your skin
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : dee you see wind effect a cloud een
LOG DATA Thu, 11 Dec 2003 01:51:38 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : even*
lady_fart_of_war : who raises rabbits just to freeze them??
former_area51_employee : so how do you know the moon is really a planet and not just an illusion?
dee_llynn : exactly Kitten
former_area51_employee : you've never walked on it
tertullian_2003 : Because Modalism asserts that there is only one person in the Godhead, it makes nonsense of passages which show Jesus talking to his Father (e.g., John 17), or declaring he is going to be with the Father (John 14:12, 28, 16:10) One office of a person cannot go to be with another office of that person, or say that the two of them will send the Holy Spirit while they remain in heaven (John 14:16-17, 26, 15:26, 16:13â15; Acts 2:32â33).
snowwhitecries : pops in
rainbowstealer : the tides
dee_llynn : the moon isnt a planet
dee_llynn : its a moon
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : snow snow
xiphoid_thanatos : ¥ former, Buy a telescope
hunter_the_crazychick : lady_fart_of_war: people who realise that guys like us will spend money on frozen feeders, instead of raising them ourselves, or killing them ourselves, because they can do it cheap....
jesus4lyf_jm : um
rainbowstealer : gravity
former_area51_employee : dee shut the fuck up
salt_aficionado : wasky- that's a ad populum fallacy
jesus4lyf_jm : isnt this a room for the devate
jesus4lyf_jm : i kinda thought
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : we had astronaughts on the moon
jesus4lyf_jm : like
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : duh
tertullian_2003 : Modalism quickly died out; it was too contrary to the ancient Christian faith to survive for long. Unfortunately, it was reintroduced in the early twentieth century in the new Pentecostal movement. In its new form, Modalism is often referred to as Jesus Only theology since it claims that Jesus is the only person in the Godhead and that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are merely names, modes, or offices of Jesus.
dee_llynn : LOLOLOL what too much sense for you
salt_aficionado : Saying that something has added truth value because of popularity
lady_fart_of_war : oh....the ole supply and demand thingy....
former_area51_employee : no
dee_llynn : TOUGH
LOG DATA Thu, 11 Dec 2003 01:52:38 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
hunter_the_crazychick : lady: Yeah. That thing.
hunter_the_crazychick : Silly, innit?
jesus4lyf_jm : are there any non evolutionist athiests here?
lady_fart_of_war : very silly
seasanctuary : Ã Yeah, I know snake handlers like that idea, tert.
dee_llynn : the moon isnt a planet thats HOW I KNOW
gremlin_net : Back.
britney_876 : of course i can see the effects that the air has upon smoke, dust, etc. definite predictions can be made about the composition of the air, and those predictions can be tested. repeatable and verifiable experiments can be performed to show evidence of the existence of molecules and atoms (which is really what the air is comprised of). fuck, next you are going to claim that atoms and cells aren't real because you can't see them...well, to beat you to it, you can SEE the cells in a microscope and atoms can be detected with an electron microscope. the same kinds of empirical tests can be performed on cells, atoms, molecules, and air.
former_area51_employee : if i had said moon you would have said planet
lady_fart_of_war : if you build it they will come
jesus4lyf_jm : now explain the other 7 dimentions
dee_llynn : not I wouldnt being as know the difference >>> do you?
jesus4lyf_jm : lol
LOG DATA Thu, 11 Dec 2003 01:53:38 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
boy_scout_josh : [-(Yellow[-(
jesus4lyf_jm : this worls is a 10 dimentional world
rook_leader : Well I know he had put an engine in, or was putting one in the car when he had to get rid of it.
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : rolls here eyes
britney_876 : former, because we have evidence of its existence...people have landed on the moon. we can make definite predictions about its pull on the earth's water, it
gremlin_net : jesus4lyf_jm: I'm not an evolutionist. I get the fact that things evolve; I certainly don't treat that fact as the basis of a religion, if that's what you mean.
former_area51_employee : a "moon" is something that orbits around something else
dee_llynn : Kitten lol
feral27 : Ray is probably the most rational Christian I know.
rainbowstealer : theres no jobs in here?8-|
former_area51_employee : but why do i need to explain myself to you?
britney_876 : it's orbit, and, oh yeah...we fucking landed on it!
former_area51_employee : answer: i dont
dee_llynn : you must be very young
jesus4lyf_jm : gremlin
rook_leader : There's a problem with the clutch or transmission now or something.
dee_llynn : not that thats bad
jesus4lyf_jm : where is proof that things have ever evolved
dee_llynn : its not bad
eddie_smiled : whats are ya talking about
LOG DATA Thu, 11 Dec 2003 01:54:38 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
waskybarrel : Hi Feral....I'm proud to be the most irrational
jesus4lyf_jm : show me the dead body of a half monkey half human
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere32 : V former, with a powerful enough microscope, i can see individual Oxygen molecules, and if someone blows in the view of the microscope, i can see the molecules moving, meaning i can see wind too..... i also know air exists because without it's presence at the current atmosphere's pressure, i would explode.... these are things in human fact, and human fact does not claim absolute certainty.... so, it very well could be an illusion, but by the human understanding of existence, it exists, that's a fact
eddie_smiled : thats what i thought
xiphoid_thanatos : ¥ jesus4lyf_jm, Actually they are speaking in terms of over 20 dimensions and uptp 30 odd in some cases. But unless you are thoroughly familiar with theoretical physics and extremely well versed in Q, it doesn;t make a lot of sense.
hunter_the_crazychick : rook: that always happens with sticks.
boy_scout_josh : They are on the same page Yellow
gremlin_net : jesus4lyf_jm: approximately everywhere. From the thecodonts through modern cancer.
rainbowstealer : cool show me too
yell0w_sub_marine : lol
dft_dave : Kitten are you a witch?
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : @-0
lady_fart_of_war : jesus is an incarnation of satan, you break whatever numbered commandment that says something to the effect of "thou shalt not have any other god before me" when you invoke jesus' name.....satan's using some sort of trojan horse to make xtians believe they need jesus to get into heaven, if god is so great, why in the hell does he need a middleman??
former_area51_employee : you rely on your mind that isn't one of the five senses
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : @-)
feral27 : WASKY..I finally have my voice back for voice chat. I linked my PC with my Dads.
dee_llynn : humans did not come from animals so first go read what evolution says >>> then we can talk
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : dave like i said last time you asked that NO
hunter_the_crazychick : definitely likes the idea of feeders delivered directly to her door.
xiphoid_thanatos : ¥ jesus4lyf_jm, Your lack of education is showing. Evolution says primates share a common ancestor. Not that there is one one leap between two different species. Go back to kindergarten moron.
jesus4lyf_jm : ok
dee_llynn : sorry I mean we did not come from monkeys
jesus4lyf_jm : the bible says 10 dimentions
LOG DATA Thu, 11 Dec 2003 01:55:38 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
jesus4lyf_jm : so thats what i believe
feral27 : Humans are animals. The most dominant animal on Earth.
hunter_the_crazychick : Now if I can just get them here without drawing attention to myself....
jesus4lyf_jm : now
waskybarrel : Feral...sigh....another broke artist
jesus4lyf_jm : there are no half evolved creatures
dee_llynn : Hunter I know that was a mistake
rook_leader : Yeah. I told him to go to Suss but he said they blew up, was it your car?
jesus4lyf_jm : which makes no sense
jesus4lyf_jm : because evoluti0on took ova milions of years right?
rook_leader : My brother Scott used to work there.
former_area51_employee : so explain the orgin of life then
jesus4lyf_jm : but heres the problem
hunter_the_crazychick : dee: what was a mistake?
rainbowstealer : whatever.....need a job..............
jesus4lyf_jm : the earth is only 6k years old
gremlin_net : jesus4lyf_jm: but, the fact that things evolve, and the theoretical mechanisms concerning the facts, are beyond the topic of theological debate. You'd want to bring it up in a more appropriate room. There should be one called Evolution is a Fact somewhere in here.
dee_llynn : jesus >>> you need to understand evolution and you show you dont
xiphoid_thanatos : ¥ Evolution is a fact. The change in a gene pool of a population over time is a fact. www.talkorigins.org has a response to every bullshit, half witted arguement you think you have.
jesus4lyf_jm : thats proven
feral27 : Evfolution is an on going process. It never ends.
boy_scout_josh : They are not debating anyway
xiphoid_thanatos : ¥ jesus4lyf_jm is a troll. No one is that stupid.
dft_dave : Kitten why does your profile say "wiccan"
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere32 : V jesus, the bible says bats are birds and insects have four legs, do you believe that too?
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : jesus4lyf_jm, "How did you get here? Did someone leave your cage open again?"
LOG DATA Thu, 11 Dec 2003 01:56:38 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
hunter_the_crazychick : rook: they have this habit of fixing one thing and breaking two....
jesus4lyf_jm : there isnt
lady_fart_of_war : lol
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : dave it says that is an interest it doesnt say i am one
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere32 : V jesus, LOL
dee_llynn : Hunter I know we are animals and we evolved but man ans apes came from the same root animal
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : my name says it for reasons you dont need to know
jesus4lyf_jm : wrong
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : nosy butt
gremlin_net : jesus4lyf_jm: well, of course Earth is only six thousand years old; nothing in twenty thousand years of recorded history has ever disproved that. Try not to be a moron.
hunter_the_crazychick : dee: uh huh.
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere32 : V jesus, you know you demonstrate your God to be a liar then, right?
lady_fart_of_war : only 6,000 years old??
jesus4lyf_jm : evolution is strongly disprooben
dee_llynn : evolution dose NOT say we were EVER MONKEYS
hunter_the_crazychick : Why am I being pulled into this?
former_area51_employee : so who are the bots?
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere32 : V jesus, lol...
jesus4lyf_jm : ok
jesus4lyf_jm : ok
jesus4lyf_jm : ok
rainbowstealer : earth is 6 billlon
gremlin_net : jesus4lyf_jm: stop that.
jesus4lyf_jm : 3 people are talking to me in huge clumps
rainbowstealer : at least
jesus4lyf_jm : lol
jesus4lyf_jm : argh!
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : dave learn to read
jesus4lyf_jm : ok
gremlin_net : rainbowstealer: Earth is about 4.55billion years old now.
jesus4lyf_jm : firsrly
rainbowstealer : ok
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: just ignore him and get it over with.
LOG DATA Thu, 11 Dec 2003 01:57:38 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
lady_fart_of_war : i love talking in clumps
jesus4lyf_jm : the earth has to be about 6 thousand years old
dft_dave : Kitten, so you have an interest in witchcraft
jesus4lyf_jm : because
gremlin_net : Hunter: I almost certainly will.
rainbowstealer : roughly
jesus4lyf_jm : the speed of light has slowed down
gremlin_net : jesus4lyf_jm: because?
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere32 : V jesus, lol.......
dj_optomystik : christians suck
jesus4lyf_jm : the different rate of movement
feral27 : Evolution is not disproven. Evolution and how it happened amongst Homospaiens is uncertain. However evolution of species is a fact, it happened.
gremlin_net : jesus4lyf_jm: no it hasn't.
jesus4lyf_jm : yes it has
jesus4lyf_jm : look it up
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere32 : V jesus, lol...
gremlin_net : jesus4lyf_jm: I have.
jesus4lyf_jm : youll be amazed
hunter_the_crazychick : ...and here comes the cat, trying to make nice when she knows she's in trouble....
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : dave there is a difference in wicca and witchcraft and i have an interest in what makes peopel believ they can do things or even do them
jesus4lyf_jm : significantly too
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : if you must know dave
rook_leader : Well he works for a different lot now.
jesus4lyf_jm : this also means the earth was made in approx 6 days
rainbowstealer : you can find a rock thats older than that
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere32 : V jesus, you're a FUCKING IDIOT
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : dave i studied it
jesus4lyf_jm : look it up
dee_llynn : Jesus >>> thats SO ridiculous at least you gace me a good laugh
jesus4lyf_jm : www.khouse.org
LOG DATA Thu, 11 Dec 2003 01:58:38 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
britney_876 : looks like former has conceded the argument
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : just like i studied christianity
rainbowstealer : me too
dee_llynn : wipes tears from eyes LOLOLOL
dft_dave : for you kitten, Margot Adler Drawing Down the Moon, Neo-Paganism and modern Wicca "The world is holy. Nature is holy. The body is holy. Sexuality is holy. The mind is holy. The imagination is holy. You are holy. A spiritual path that is not stagnant ultimately leads one to the understanding of oneâs own divine nature. Thou art Goddess. Thou art God. Divinity is imminent in all Nature, It is as much within you as without... While one can at times be cut off from experiencing the deep and ever present connection between oneself and the universe, there is no such thing as sin (unless it is simply defined as that estrangement) and guilt is never very useful."
former_area51_employee : britney i don't need to argue with you
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : hands dee a tissue
gremlin_net : jesus4lyf_jm: okay, Dummy. Here's an easy PassFail question even you have a chance in hell of answering correctly. One of us has a PhD. Is it you? If not: don't presume to guess what bullshit assertion might amaze me, okay?
dee_llynn : Kitten ty :))
roots_massive : evolution---------- man and ape evolved seperatly but we did come from the same ancestor maybe some kinda sloth but obviously man was the nomadic being and ape was the nesting type man was omniverous and ape where vegitarian
roots_massive : hehehhee
seasanctuary : Ã The ONLY people who claim speed of light has gone down are a SMALL group of people who do so ONLY for religious reasons. That ought to be a clue.
britney_876 : former, you gave up your argument because it was non-existent
former_area51_employee : if you get something out of this go find someone else to bicker with
LOG DATA Thu, 11 Dec 2003 01:59:38 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
hunter_the_crazychick : Okay, shipped December 4th....
former_area51_employee : its like talking to a wall
boy_scout_josh : Hi Kitten :D
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : waits for another moronic coment to come out of dave's mouth
tertullian_2003 : Zeffur: The arguments for the Greek doctrine are as follows: (a) The words of Christ, John 15:26, understood in an exclusive sense. As this is the only passage of the Bible in which the procession of the Spirit is expressly taught, it is regarded by the Greeks as conclusive.
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : hi josh
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : comment*
hunter_the_crazychick : First class mail...to the box....
gremlin_net : jesus4lyf_jm: also, 'look it up' equates, in here, to 'look at me! I'm another meretricious fucking troll! I'l bet you're glad you don't have to live near me, aren't you!' Prove it or shut up.
boy_scout_josh : When did you become a Wiccan Kitten :P
dee_llynn : ROOTS !!!!! exactly my point! they dont EVEN know what evolution says!!! but they can't WAIT to say it;s wrong!
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : josh you havent been paying attention have you /:)
dee_llynn : at lesst I read the friggen bible twice!
boy_scout_josh : No :((
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : aww >:D< josh
bayarearebel : whats a half evolved animal look like
tertullian_2003 : (b) The supremacy or monarchia of the Father. He is the source and root of the Godhead. The Son and the Spirit are subordinated to him, not indeed in essence or substance (ousia), which is one and the same, but in dignity and office. This is the Nicene subordinatianism. It is illustrated by the comparison of the Father with the root, the Son with the stem, the Spirit with the fruit, and such analogies as the sun, the ray, and the beam; the fire, the flame, and the light.
hunter_the_crazychick : It should've been there by now. Even allowing for internal mail downtime and the holiday rush....
LOG DATA Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:00:38 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
boy_scout_josh : :(
dft_dave : Kitten that is a quote from a popular book
hunter_the_crazychick : gets annoyed.
britney_876 : i find it funny that no one is lined up around the block calling people "gravitionalists" and saying "gravity doesn't exist,you can't prove it!"
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : es ok josh i'm not i am still atheist he just is a twit
roots_massive : words are bullshit they can be altered and changed there is no truth in words if your ideas are bassed on words they are false
rook_leader : I should go get more cigarettes before bed. Work at 2.
roots_massive : bla
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : no shit dave the quote is an edgar allan poe quote
tertullian_2003 : :))
gremlin_net : roots_massive: the prototype animal for the modern primates was a protoprimate. It was long after the sloths had developed.
rook_leader : Goodbye everyone.
xiphoid_thanatos : ¥ lol britney
britney_876 : roots, you've just refuted yourself
bayarearebel : is it like a duck with better tree cklimbing tails
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : your point?
xiphoid_thanatos : ¥ Night rook, Take care:)
boy_scout_josh : Atheist is no fun become a Wiccan Kitten :D
roots_massive : lol
britney_876 : roots, you said don't believe words...ok, i won't believe your words
dee_llynn : thTS JUST STUPID YOU CAN SEE THE EFFECTS OF GRAVITY
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : josh /:)
roots_massive : \lol
gremlin_net : A half-evolved animal would be a biped who believes in deities.
dee_llynn : sorry I hit caps lock
roots_massive : exactly
former_area51_employee : all this comes down to is opinions...
rook_leader : Thank you, xiphoid_thanatos.
britney_876 : and i will base my ideas on words
LOG DATA Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:01:38 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
dft_dave : no way kitten its a quote from Margo Adler
boy_scout_josh : Kitten you'll be able to cast powerful spells if you do :D
lady_fart_of_war : base ideas on words??
britney_876 : former, wrong. it comes down to empirical evidence...something you and the fundies don't have
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : dave you are a total moron
lady_fart_of_war : what ideas do you get from fuck and shit??
dj_optomystik : pointless opinions at that yall need to get fucked or somethin
former_area51_employee : i'm not a fundie
yell0w_sub_marine : be well all i need sleep
dee_llynn : lady >>> you dont wanna know
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : dave i have the edgar allen poe book right next to my bed it is form one of his poems
former_area51_employee : everyone is wrong but you right?
britney_876 : former, did i say you were?
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : from*
roots_massive : he is man whos battlestate is always subject unto fate
xiphoid_thanatos : ¥ Obviously someone that has never picked up a linguistics, or cognitive psych book in their life:|
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : dave you know nothing of poetry
LOG DATA Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:02:38 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
roots_massive : there is only one truth
britney_876 : former, uh, it's not just me..it's all rational people
bayarearebel : plant here
dft_dave : Kitten i thought you were an intelligent person, i was wrong
waskybarrel : revelation
bayarearebel : x
roots_massive : and none of us know it
dee_llynn : is back
rainbowstealer : you no what they say about opinions?
gremlin_net : xiphoid_thanatos: lots of people are like that. Granted, most of them live in Dark Africa....
rainbowstealer : :D
former_area51_employee : if i were to go by what is rational i would have killed by now
roots_massive : for if one knew the truth it would be a revilation and we would all know it
gremlin_net : Fire bad; wheel neat; science suck.
former_area51_employee : i would have killed someone like you a long time ago
lady_fart_of_war : such titalating
xiphoid_thanatos : ¥ roots_massive, That is apositive assertion that requires evidence.
lady_fart_of_war :
lady_fart_of_war : ooops
britney_876 : former, what the hell are you talking about?
lady_fart_of_war : damn me and my god
former_area51_employee : reality
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : dave excuse me? i have the book right next to my bed so now i am not intelligent because i know my quote came form a poem and you cant stand being wrong about where you thought it came from
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : :))
britney_876 : former, uh, killing innocent people is not rational
boy_scout_josh : #-o
LOG DATA Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:03:38 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
dj_optomystik : hahaha
adina_ray94087 : :-O
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : excuse me does anyone in here like poetry by poe?
rainbowstealer : nope
adina_ray94087 : :-?
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere32 : V jesus there is light showing up from stars in our own galaxy well over 6000 light years away showing up, that means, that 1) if light speed from these stars were shown to slow down, that would mean that it has been well over 6000 years since the light started appearing from them, 2) the literal biblical God is a liar 3) you're a moron for thinking you have any fucking clue what you are talking about...
lady_fart_of_war : me do
britney_876 : but i'm sure you'd find a way for your bible to show that your killing is ok
xiphoid_thanatos : ¥ kitten, Yes:P
adina_ray94087 : :-S
rainbowstealer : why kill?
roots_massive : eddie shut the fuck up you idiot you should tape yourself and listen to it
former_area51_employee : if all i believed was what i see and taste and smell and touch and hear then i wouldn't care what my actions were
former_area51_employee : i rely on morality
lady_fart_of_war : i like poe
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : cassie ten tell dave there where my quote is form please
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : lady:)
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : lady have a look too
gremlin_net : jesus4lyf_jm must be a troll after all. It lied about a few things, and dropped into silence.
britney_876 : former, why not?
roots_massive : ok
dee_llynn : Kitten >>> I once had a chatter refuse to back down about who wrote a song when i had the sheet music in MY HANDS >>>> people are stubborn in the dumbest ways
roots_massive : now
xiphoid_thanatos : ¥ The OT is very clear. There are quite a few groups of people that you are supposed to stone. And meteroelogy is evil:) But we all knew that anyway o_0
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : "Wretches! ye loved her for her wealth and hated her for her pride ~Edgar Allan Poe~" that is the quote on my page
LOG DATA Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:04:38 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
roots_massive : eddie the point is you are an idiot
boy_scout_josh : :-?
britney_876 : former, so you only attempt to be good because of the threat of punishment?
former_area51_employee : everyone has beliefs
xiphoid_thanatos : ¥ Who is dave?
dft_dave : Margot Adler Drawing Down the Moon, Neo-Paganism and modern Wicca "The world is holy. Nature is holy. The body is holy. Sexuality is holy. The mind is holy. The imagination is holy. You are holy. A spiritual path that is not stagnant ultimately leads one to the understanding of oneâs own divine nature. Thou art Goddess. Thou art God. Divinity is imminent in all Nature, It is as much within you as without... While one can at times be cut off from experiencing the deep and ever present connection between oneself and the universe, there is no such thing as sin (unless it is simply defined as that estrangement) and guilt is never very useful."
roots_massive : everyone is full of shit
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : dtf_dave
boy_scout_josh : #-o
roots_massive : heya junkie
former_area51_employee : if you don't i wonder what are you living for>
rainbowstealer : yes
roots_massive : whats shakin
britney_876 : former, that's right. some people believe that black people are inferior. should we respect their beliefs?
junke4ever : yo
boy_scout_josh : That is crazy dude
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : dee it is fucking hilarious
former_area51_employee : that's there right
former_area51_employee : you dont need to believe it though
britney_876 : former, following orders to avoid punishment is something that the nazis did
seasanctuary : Ã Proof for kitten: http://www.bartleby.com/248/234.html
LOG DATA Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:05:38 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
dee_llynn : FORMER >>> I enjoy everyday of my life that why I live
former_area51_employee : they are intitled to that
roots_massive : the sriptures came to be because some idiot wanted to domesticate man
boy_scout_josh : 8-|
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : he says it is by Margo Adler... yet it is from a poe poem
roots_massive : the week
boy_scout_josh : 8-}
seasanctuary : Ã line 8
roots_massive : mercy
xiphoid_thanatos : ¥ dft_dave, I have you on iggy and can';t see you, but that is from Poe's wrok called, "Lenoire"
feral27 : RAY....The scriptures were passed down orally until they can be written down? That is a good hypothesis.
roots_massive : fuck that
xiphoid_thanatos : ¥ *Lenore
britney_876 : former, they are only entititled to their moronic beliefs because they live in a relatively free society
roots_massive : he is man who lives in breath
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : hey dave maybe your little author used a quote from poe ever think of that twiddleshit
xiphoid_thanatos : ¥ *work
britney_876 : former, you, however, would rather live in a theocracy
roots_massive : here now there in life and death
boy_scout_josh : :))
former_area51_employee : i'm just saying if someone were to piss me off id think i would be justfied to beat the shit out of them
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : >:D< ty cassie
rainbowstealer : no puters back than
xiphoid_thanatos : ¥ kitten, Anytime>:D<
LOG DATA Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:06:38 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
britney_876 : former, that's nice. you'd also go to prison for assaulting someone
boy_scout_josh : I hear a drunkman on mic daddy 8-}
dee_llynn : okay thats it for kid chat "click"
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere32 : V former, howso?
dee_llynn : so anyways :)
dft_dave : read it kitten, its not a poem, can you read?
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : :))
xiphoid_thanatos : ¥ dave, Here. http://www.bartleby.com/248/234.html
former_area51_employee : becasue what is life without beliefs?
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : dave yes it is i only put one line from it
roots_massive : dont you love these winos talking religeon hey bla
former_area51_employee : total anarchy
dee_llynn : roots LOLOLOLOLOL
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere32 : V former, beliefs don't justify all actions...
britney_876 : former, you're living proof that a theist is can be way more violent and criminal than an atheist
roots_massive : lol
boy_scout_josh : I wish Eddie
seasanctuary : Ã Dave! Read line 8 of this: http://www.bartleby.com/248/234.html
LOG DATA Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:07:38 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
former_area51_employee : not true
dft_dave : can you read more than one liners kitten
dj_optomystik : has anyone ever heard the theory EBE's created the bible as a form of subliminul control and was aqquired by the governments and world leaders along with technology in exchange for the supression of their existance?
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : dave poe only did short horor stories and poems
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere32 : V former, beliefs aren't necessary for governments to work
former_area51_employee : i rely on my superego if you know what that is
roots_massive : maybe you should both find some joy
former_area51_employee : you rely on your id
jesus4lyf_jm : go to www.khouse.org
roots_massive : exactly dj
jesus4lyf_jm : all science supports christianity
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere32 : V former, your super ego just got you ignored...
roots_massive : your on da shit dude
tertullian_2003 : :|
britney_876 : former, so you retract your statement about beating up people that disagree with you? looks likei'm starting to talk some sense into you
hunter_the_crazychick : Hmm. Twenty pieces of straight perch-style driftwood for six dollars.
esotericx10 : is back
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : dave look at the link xiphoid posted it is the whole poem... it even shows the line numbers to let you know it is a poem
esotericx10 : ¿ dj_optomystik yes I'm familai with that material
gremlin_net : Belief justifies actions to the beliefholder. If it doesn't justify them to everyone else, just instal the additional belief that everyone else is wrong. It's Dungeons&Dragons: Solitaire Edition.
xiphoid_thanatos : ¥ dj_optomystik, Considering how long ago it ws written, that "theory" makes no sense.
esotericx10 : ¿ 8familiar
LOG DATA Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:08:38 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
jesus4lyf_jm : WHO HERE STILL BELIEVE EVOLUTION HAPPENED
britney_876 : jesus, no science supports christianity
jesus4lyf_jm : ANYONE?
seasanctuary : Ã What's it like being a Flatearther for Jesus, Jesus?
former_area51_employee : not at all i am saying if i didnt believe in right and wrong then beating someone up wouldnt be anything to me
jesus4lyf_jm : NO?
xiphoid_thanatos : ¥ It also fails to explain the 4 billion people who do NOT follow the bible
dft_dave : ive read Poe, what does the quote say? Thats what is important
roots_massive : wasky why dont you knock yourself out with your wiskey barrel
gremlin_net : jesus4lyf_jm: the first dozen pages of the bible are destroyed by science. Try again, without lying this time.
roots_massive : you idiot
former_area51_employee : wouldn't be bad
hunter_the_crazychick : wonders if she should stick to fake plastic style perches.
former_area51_employee : wouldn't be good
britney_876 : former, why would you not believe in right and wrong?
former_area51_employee : morality
tertullian_2003 : wask shut up
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : dave look at the page xiphoid posted... that is part of his wrighting
dee_llynn : britney> thats really nasty in a backhanded way. When I do good its ONLY to do good. I dont expect reward or punishment. I live a good like JUST TO LIVE ONE! so keep ideas like you have to get the DREGS of believers to be less moral than most of us atheist/agnostics are.
feral27 : JESUS...All science supports Christianity? So the moon is it's own light source? Donkeys posses the vocal cords in which to produce speach? Women turn to pillars of salt?
roots_massive : wasky
britney_876 : wait, you think someone has to believe in an invisible man to have standards of right and wrong? ha ha ha ha ha
former_area51_employee : if i need to take everything at sight
roots_massive : hey
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : http://www.bartleby.com/248/234.html
jesus4lyf_jm : wrong gremlin
roots_massive : dude
boy_scout_josh : agrees with tertullian_2003
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere32 : V former, "right and wrong" is subjective, and one's view of "right and wrong" does not apply to all people in the world..
rainbowstealer : inate sense......morality
gremlin_net : jesus4lyf_jm: I accept the fact that things did, do, and shall continue to evolve. I have no need to believe it.
former_area51_employee : not all
seasanctuary : Ã If science supports Christianity, then why do your kook friends feel the need to make up their own version of science, Jesus? :D
roots_massive : do you like chatting
jesus4lyf_jm : go to www.khouse.org it explains it
LOG DATA Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:09:38 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : dave are you that thick headed that you cant say that you were wrong
former_area51_employee : this isn't about god
britney_876 : accepting empirical evidence has NOTHING to do with morality, retard
rainbowstealer : no
former_area51_employee : you are such a fuckin' cunt
waskybarrel : lol
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : :))
former_area51_employee : this is not about GOD
jesus4lyf_jm : we dont make up sciencelol
xiphoid_thanatos : Â¥ ÂWretches, ye loved her for her wealth and hated her for her pride, And when she fell in feeble health, ye blessed herÂthat she died!How shall the ritual, then, be read? the requiem how be sung, By youÂby yours, the evil eye,Âby yours, the slanderous tongue, That did to death the innocence that died, and died so young?Â
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : he used the c word
rainbowstealer : lol
former_area51_employee : this is about morality
former_area51_employee : you fuck
jesus4lyf_jm : look
jesus4lyf_jm : gremlin
dft_dave : i'm looking at now kitten
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : covers her mouth and says "ooooo"
jesus4lyf_jm : go to www.khouse.org
jesus4lyf_jm : ok?
gremlin_net : jesus4lyf_jm: fine. Prove me wrong. Prove your assertion. Prove, using the scientific method you assert supports your bullshit, that, oh...something from the bible...prove that bats are a type of bird. Now.
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : ok dave good
britney_876 : jesus, #1 science doesn't support christianity because science is FALSIFIABLE and christianity is UNFALSIFIABLE. unless you can reconcile that, you needn't even bother going on
rainbowstealer : do the right thing spike lee
LOG DATA Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:10:38 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : =D>
rainbowstealer : :-?
britney_876 : former, please respond to the argument
seasanctuary : Ã Some types of Christianity are actually falsiFIED...such as Jesus'. :)
jesus4lyf_jm : ok
jesus4lyf_jm : first explain what falsifiable means
former_area51_employee : britney go fuck yourself and quit twisting my words around
rainbowstealer : look it up
rainbowstealer : lol
jesus4lyf_jm : cant be botherd
britney_876 : former, you JUST fucking claimed that people who accept empirical evidence have no morality...absurd!
jesus4lyf_jm : lol
jesus4lyf_jm : ok
gremlin_net : jesus4lyf_jm: according to this badly-written novel, bats, being flying creatures, are birds. That's reportedly the word of your retarded little deity. So: prove that bats are birds byt he scientific method.
jesus4lyf_jm : fine
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : man i am glad my 3 musketears quote is on a different id that would have been fucking hilarious to have to find
rainbowstealer : me either
LOG DATA Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:11:38 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : Says âCraziness is in the eyes of the beholder."
jesus4lyf_jm : gremlin
jesus4lyf_jm : why dont you
waskybarrel : ?????
jesus4lyf_jm : i have to look up a word now
jesus4lyf_jm : brb
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : says, "Never get into an argument with the schizophrenic person and say, 'Who do you think you are?'"
dee_llynn : I have never seen a fundie admit the bible has errors and indeed it has errors
lady_fart_of_war : crazy is as crazy does
britney_876 : jesus, if you don't even know what falsifiable is....jesus, we can't even begin to have a conversation
britney_876 : look it up, retard
jesus4lyf_jm : i am
dee_llynn : whats that lol
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : dee i have seen a christian do it.. but a fundie no way
gremlin_net : jesus4lyf_jm: may I remind you of I Thessalonians 5.21--'Prove all things; hold fast that which is good'. As a christian, you'll get right the fuck on that. Prove that bats are birds.
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere32 : V dee_lynn, much less a literal interpretation
rainbowstealer : got that right dee lynn
rainbowstealer : won't
LOG DATA Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:12:38 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
britney_876 : former, ok, state your position, then. i'm giving you another chance
dee_llynn : Kitten >> yes I have seen "normal" christains agree it has errors as well
seasanctuary : Ã I've heard fundies admit the Bible has errors...but they say it has no "important" errors.
lady_fart_of_war : silly xtian singles....those men to attached to god to get a decent woman
seasanctuary : Ã Nothing that affects "the faith" or some such nonsense.
xiphoid_thanatos : ¥ I am a scoail animal. A human. AS a si=ocial animal, society has learned through trial and error what forms of behaviour serve its purpose of harmonious as possible living. Those behaviours are not killing, (usually), not stealing etc. They are reinforced in each generation, accepted as societal rules, made into laws and viola, some nut comes along and calls them morals.
jesus4lyf_jm : seasanctuary is right
dee_llynn : sea>>> yeah they always have a loop hole
rainbowstealer : interpetation
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : lady and some still wind up with psychos
jesus4lyf_jm : ok
gremlin_net : seasanctuary: jesus4lyf_jm just told us that science supports the bible, in, by implication, its entirety. I'm waiting for his scientifically valid evidence showing bats to be birds.
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : says, "Everyone thinks I'm psychotic, except for my friends deep inside the earth."
jesus4lyf_jm : the bible has no important errors
britney_876 : seeing as how they claim that the bible is the unerring word of god, it's a bit ironic that they are ok with some of the mistakes
LOG DATA Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:13:38 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
gremlin_net : jesus4lyf_jm: evading. Strike One. Prove that bats are birds.
jesus4lyf_jm : gremlin
dee_llynn : it has no important anything in my opinon
lady_fart_of_war : hmmm...a psycho xtian lady....but aren't they all??
boy_scout_josh : =D>
jesus4lyf_jm : where does it say
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : rubs her hands together and giggles
jesus4lyf_jm : bats
jesus4lyf_jm : are
jesus4lyf_jm : bired
jesus4lyf_jm : birds
gremlin_net : jesus4lyf_jm: evading again. Strike Two. One chance left.
seasanctuary : smiles.
jesus4lyf_jm : where
jesus4lyf_jm : see
rainbowstealer : ok
jesus4lyf_jm : u cant proove it
dft_dave : Kitten I did not see anything that resembled my quote
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : lady not all of them i know a few down to earth ones
dee_llynn : JESUS >>> YOU dont KNOW ????
hunter_the_crazychick : almost has stuff worked out.
former_area51_employee : my argument is that you rely on sight, sound, taste, touch and smell...for evidence, well you have morals you have beliefs on what is right and wrong so that wouldn't be one of the listed above things you rely on for fact.
jesus4lyf_jm : wheres is say it
dee_llynn : LOLOLOLOLOL
rainbowstealer : wondering myself
jesus4lyf_jm : i havent read it
jesus4lyf_jm : lol
gremlin_net : jesus4lyf_jm: you're an imbecile. Strike Three. Here's your shirt: http://antichristian.grem.tv
dee_llynn : they never seem to have ACTUALLY have read the book
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : dave your quote? this was about the one on my profile you said
rainbowstealer : read some
lady_fart_of_war : i guess my grandma's not a psycho...
LOG DATA Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:14:38 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
jesus4lyf_jm : gremlin
jesus4lyf_jm : u cant back it up
jesus4lyf_jm : can yu
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: I found someone on EBay selling twenty straight-perch driftwood pieces of various sizes [11 to 41 inches] for six bucks plus shipping.
boy_scout_josh : agrees with tertullian_2003
gremlin_net : jesus4lyf_jm is damned to the killfile for violating I Thessalonians 5.21, as well as Titus 2.8. I hate these idiots who impersonate christians at me....
dft_dave : Kitten, see my quote,ok?
dee_llynn : but they just KNOW this BOOK they have NEVER read is real ROTFLMFAO
jesus4lyf_jm : u cant say where it says bats are brds
britney_876 : former, nice straw man. i've stated that you must rely on empirical evidence to support claims made about the physical world. morality is a whole different subject
dft_dave : here it comes
dft_dave : Margot Adler Drawing Down the Moon, Neo-Paganism and modern Wicca "The world is holy. Nature is holy. The body is holy. Sexuality is holy. The mind is holy. The imagination is holy. You are holy. A spiritual path that is not stagnant ultimately leads one to the understanding of oneâs own divine nature. Thou art Goddess. Thou art God. Divinity is imminent in all Nature, It is as much within you as without... While one can at times be cut off from experiencing the deep and ever present connection between oneself and the universe, there is no such thing as sin (unless it is simply defined as that estrangement) and guilt is never very useful."
former_area51_employee : straw man?
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : /:)
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere32 : V jesus, you're a FUCKING IDIOT
Fastillion : Â Leviticus 11:13-19 "And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls ... and the lapwing, and the bat."
xiphoid_thanatos : ¥ former, That arguemtn makes no sense. The whole idea of fact in science is that it is unbiased by personal belief systems. That is why it is verifiable by all others regardless of their beliefs. The scientific method is belief blind deliberately.
jesus4lyf_jm : gremlin
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : yawns
xiphoid_thanatos : ¥ *arguement
dee_llynn : 32> Indeed in this case a agree
jesus4lyf_jm : it says nowhere in the bible that bats are birds
jesus4lyf_jm : it says nowhere in the bible that bats are birds
LOG DATA Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:15:38 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : waits
dee_llynn : he is a fool
jesus4lyf_jm : it says nowhere in the bible that bats are birds
jesus4lyf_jm : it says nowhere in the bible that bats are birds
jesus4lyf_jm : it says nowhere in the bible that bats are birds
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : twiddles her thumbs
dft_dave : Margot Adler Drawing Down the Moon, Neo-Paganism and modern Wicca "The world is holy. Nature is holy. The body is holy. Sexuality is holy. The mind is holy. The imagination is holy. You are holy. A spiritual path that is not stagnant ultimately leads one to the understanding of oneâs own divine nature. Thou art Goddess. Thou art God. Divinity is imminent in all Nature, It is as much within you as without... While one can at times be cut off from experiencing the deep and ever present connection between oneself and the universe, there is no such thing as sin (unless it is simply defined as that estrangement) and guilt is never very useful."
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : hey jm fuck off spammer
rainbowstealer : I-)
seasanctuary : Ã Deuteronomy 14:11-18 <- Bats are birds statement
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : bats are rodents
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : with wings
dj_optomystik : instead of arguing can't you all discuss properly
lady_fart_of_war : when is this meaningless spittle??
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : fuckwad
esotericx10 : ¿ former_area51_employee It is a fact that any and all behavior results in consequences....essentially you can do what the fuck you want if you'r prepared to deal with the consequences of your actions
dft_dave : kitten did you see it?
bayarearebel : all of a sudden god is perfect
former_area51_employee : the whole point to religion is that you have to believe it on faith
seasanctuary : Ã Well, Leviticus too...that's what you get when God has to repeat himself. ;)
boy_scout_josh : agrees with waskybarrel
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : dave the last thing it shows you typed was here it comes
lilah_2020x : The bible frobably does have errors due to interpretation and language. Most Christians feel whatever those errors may be, as long as people know Jesus came to save people and not condemn them, the rest is rather impertinent in the grand scheme of things.... in the end.
jesus4lyf_jm : sum1 who knows their stuff
LOG DATA Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:16:38 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
former_area51_employee : so world evidence doesn't play into that
dft_dave : no
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : and i even scrolled back to check
hunter_the_crazychick : dave: a lot of people have long posts filtered out.
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere32 : V jesus, do you know god exists?
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : :)) yahell is eating whatever you are trying to say
xiphoid_thanatos : ¥ faith is a belief. A particular type of belief. So again, you don't make sense.
britney_876 : former, as i stated, and i keep repeating, you rely on your 5 senses to describe what is in the physical world...from that evidence, you CONCLUDE and ANALYZE
dee_llynn : ty SEA I was too lazy to do JESUS research for HIM
seasanctuary : Ã Lilah...but that means you can never completely trust any particular verse to be correct.
hunter_the_crazychick : dave: perhaps if you cut it down into more than one post, a few lines apart.
rainbowstealer : if i wanted to argue i.d wake my wife up.....................have a wife and a home of my own.................
gremlin_net : From Leviticus Eleven: 'And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls ; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray, And the vulture, and the kite after his kind; Every raven after his kind; And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind, And the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl, And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle, And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.'
jesus4lyf_jm : IS THAT WHERE IT SAYS IT?
rainbowstealer : lol
LOG DATA Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:17:38 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
lilah_2020x : sea, some people choose to. It's a mattr of choice.
jesus4lyf_jm : HAHAHA
dee_llynn : Deuteronomy 14:11-18 <- Bats are birds
gremlin_net : jesus4lyf_jm lied to us. Ignore the false christian heathen at will.
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : hunter i usually get the long posts i dunno why it is cutting it so i dont see it :-/
jesus4lyf_jm : GOD HAD TO COUNT THEM AS BATS
former_area51_employee : where are your thoughts are thoses in the physical world?
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : lol gremlin
hunter_the_crazychick : Maybe it's set up as a macro or something. Who knows.
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin?
iwonderhowmanylettersfitinhere32 : V jesus, do you know god exists?
former_area51_employee : i wouldn't think that thoughts can be seen
gremlin_net : Hunter: hmmm?
britney_876 : former, of course they are. and your thoughts can come up with ABSTRACT ideas
hunter_the_crazychick : Making sure you could see me....
seasanctuary : Ã I like teaching Christians about the Bible.
lilah_2020x : On that thought, why believe anything in the entire world. The entire universe and people living in this world err all the time?
hunter_the_crazychick : Now I don't know why you've been ignoring me....
gremlin_net : Hunter: nope. Can't see you at all.
former_area51_employee : i dont see them
jesus4lyf_jm : gremlin
britney_876 : ABSTRACT IDEAS like morality
former_area51_employee : where are they>
hunter_the_crazychick : Hah.
jesus4lyf_jm : thats stupid
hunter_the_crazychick : The pill help?
former_area51_employee : where?
LOG DATA Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:18:38 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
gremlin_net : Hunter: I can see your text, though.
former_area51_employee : show me a picture
gremlin_net : Hunter: a little.
hunter_the_crazychick : I'll hurt you....
dft_dave : Margot Adler Drawing Down the Moon, Neo-Paganism and modern Wicca "The world is holy. Nature is holy. The body is holy. Sexuality is holy. The mind is holy. The imagination is holy. You are holy. A spiritual path that is not stagnant ultimately leads one to the understanding of oneâs own divine nature. Thou art Goddess. Thou art God. Divinity is imminent in all Nature, It is as much within you as without... While one can at times be cut off from experiencing the deep and ever present connection between oneself and the universe, there is no such thing as sin (unless it is simply defined as that estrangement) and guilt is never very useful."
former_area51_employee : let me touch my thoughts
xiphoid_thanatos : ¥ It would appear that thoughts are primarily electrical current, and therefore yes physical. The bottom line is, the "mind" ceases to exist without a brain. Physical.
former_area51_employee : or taste them
gremlin_net : Hunter: you can't hurt me. I can't see you. What I don't know won't hurt me. QED.
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: I found someone on EBay selling sandblasted grapevine, or driftwood, or something, twenty pieces for six bucks.
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : former cut a hole in your skill and poke your brain
lady_fart_of_war : wonders if there are any men strolling about the porn chat rooms......
gremlin_net : Hunter: okay.
xiphoid_thanatos : ¥ And I've had enough of pseudo solipsists for a life time. Especially ones as dumb as that one.
rainbowstealer : lol
former_area51_employee : thoses aren't my thougts
britney_876 : former, ha ha ha ha. i can show you many pictures. it's called an MRI. brain scan. you can test different parts of the brain to see which parts are functioning during which tasks.
seasanctuary : Ã God is another name for Human Ignorance. When science grows, God shrinks.
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : wow osme one cant take a fucking joke goddamn
LOG DATA Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:19:38 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
britney_876 : they've been able to do it for decades. you're behind the times, retard
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: they're straight perch style. I'm not sure if they'd work, though. I should probably stick to synthetics, shouldn't I?
gremlin_net : Hang on. I need to post jesus4lyf_jm lies to http://board.grem.tv to make an example out of the little 'tard for posterity....
former_area51_employee : SHOW ME WHAT I AM THINKING
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : yawn britney that isnt thought either
lilah_2020x : Love is something no one can see but everyone knows exists.
former_area51_employee : DRAW ME A PICTURE SO I DONT HAVE TO HEAR YOU SPEAK
junke4ever : is away (Away)
xiphoid_thanatos : ¥ Night all
lady_fart_of_war : brit's thinking??
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : :))
LOG DATA Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:20:38 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : lady ofcourse not
britney_876 : former, you can test and make definite predictions about chemical interactions involved in emotion.
lady_fart_of_war : guess she's off her diet
xiphoid_thanatos : ¥ former_area51_employee, You aren't hearing her speak moron, she is typing. Now shoo back to grade school.
britney_876 : show me the purple penis orbiting your head
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : britney :))
gremlin_net : Maybe, if jesus4lyf_jm is smart enough to figure out the messageboard [I know, I know; just play along with the scenario], he'll show up and reply with his evidence now that he's ignored in here....
former_area51_employee : SHOW ME MY EXACT THOUGHTS
boy_scout_josh : 40AD
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : britney come here and i will show you one shoved down your throat
former_area51_employee : lol
britney_876 : i don't need to prove that you are thinking. the burden of proof is on the person making the fantastic claim...in this case, YOU!
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : goes to the toy store down the road's web page
dft_dave : Kitten, i see you are a graphic designer
lady_fart_of_war : i wonder if there are any gospel karaoke chatrooms??
former_area51_employee : so i don't need to prove a God exists
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : no dave you see i am in school for graphic design
evilapparatus_wiccan_kitten : bigg difference
LOG DATA Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:21:38 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN DEBATE:1
Somehow, I forgot to killfile the moron right away. I guess that worked out well enough, in the end. Now that he's gonged after all, we'll wait and see whether he's smart enough to post any further, erm, rebuttal here on the board....
--Gremlin