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Posted by Gremlin [12.211.200.127 - 12-211-200-127.client.attbi.com] on 17 July 2003 at 15.27.04 ZuluTime:
In Reply to: And philip_gyle crosses the line into libel.... posted by Gremlin on 17 July 2003 at 12.05.19 ZuluTime:
LOG DATA Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:36:49 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gremlin_net : Doctrines are built on baseless assertions which lack enough detail to be proved or disproved.
truthisfalse : good morning hunter...how are you?
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : loving: is that so? says whom?
lovingevolution : and that makes us children of the light :D
hunter_the_crazychick : truth: I'm alright.
zedechiah_the_messiah : 2 Cor 12:2
philip_gyle : somethings or some people never change
truthisfalse : gremlin...you think vibrational levels of "reality" are measurable?
uper_dhghem : found it..
uper_dhghem : 2 Corinthians 12:2 - "I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven."
lovingevolution : gary zukov...einstien...jesus
hunter_the_crazychick : sees philip_gyle; decides she ought to find out what those earlier comments regarding him were about.
uper_dhghem : that's KJV i think..
gremlin_net : The mistake made by christianity was the assertion that their primary deity created a universe which can't have been factually created. Christianity's hypothesis is disproved.
zedechiah_the_messiah : nothing about demons, tho
LOG DATA Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:37:49 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
philip_gyle : probably about the post in the daily digest hunter , i have just read the replies myself:)
lovingevolution : *rolls a joint*
truthisfalse : gremlin...uh...i go by "gut feeling" on that one
jobie00023 : gremlin, i COMPLETELY agree with you
lovingevolution : *looks at the time at makes it a big one*
gremlin_net : truthisfalse: vibrational levels in general can be measured.
uper_dhghem : i'm pretty sure there's not messiah..
truthisfalse : hunter...i try and i try...but i can't get the "lol" out of me...it is so...i don't know, genial
uper_dhghem : lol@lovingevolution
lovingevolution : i thought i was the messiah for a while
truthisfalse : gremlin...true, of this reality
LOG DATA Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:38:49 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
knowledge_309 : The Bible says nothing of the sort.
truthisfalse : loving...you are not?
lovingevolution : maybe i am
uper_dhghem : yeh, blueletterbible.org seems to be a good one.
hunter_the_crazychick : philip_gyle: I don't recieve a daily digest. I have, however, heard a few things in here about you, and I've decided that those things were justified.
truthisfalse : hi zed...how's the clone?
lovingevolution : doing a shit job if it is me!
philip_gyle : your opinion humter and thats fine
philip_gyle : hunter*
lovingevolution : i think we can all be messiahs
hunter_the_crazychick : You, however, weren't. You launched some odd [as far as I can tell] unprovoked attack against Gremlin. You have problems, according to the evidence....
gremlin_net : The universe is primarily the enitrety of matter/energy. Matter/energy can't be created or destroyed. The universe in general can't be created or destroyed. The christian hypothesis that the universe was created by deities is easily disproved.
nero_dermull : we all are messiahs
nero_dermull : and we are all demons
truthisfalse : loving...don't be too hard on your self...it's not easy facing martyrdom
LOG DATA Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:39:49 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
knowledge_309 : We are all anointed?
nero_dermull : that is human nature
knowledge_309 : I'm not.
lovingevolution : it is our evoltuionary destination
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : :)) what a load of crock from 2 corin
hunter_the_crazychick : You ought not misquote. Shame. That's bearing false witness.
nero_dermull : the simian reflex as i clal it
hunter_the_crazychick : Whatever shall your deity say....
lovingevolution : oh i got over the martyrdom bit...
truthisfalse : gremlin...yes...and quantum physics is disproving it
lovingevolution : still got a bit of fear to shift
truthisfalse : but quantum physics...
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : gremlin: hum -- you mean mass/energy - not matter
philip_gyle : i was simply refering to the previous daily digest where two other atheists said that it isn't right to say there are no dieties, and true to form gremlin said the opposite
knowledge_309 : What is an evolutionary destination??
LOG DATA Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:40:49 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
jobie00023 : i agree with you, nero
truthisfalse : "seems" to be verifying what mystics have claimed to see...on a subatomic level, anyway
zedechiah_the_messiah : J: he just puked on me, thanks
nero_dermull : has anyone in here ever heard of trancendentalism
jobie00023 : yes
lovingevolution : something that lasts only a second
truthisfalse : zed...ah...i remember those days fondly...my morning was not complete without it...sigh
nero_dermull : that is what i believe in
jobie00023 : very cool
hotvegasman : truth
truthisfalse : nero...of trancendentalism of what?
truthisfalse : hi hot :-) how you doing?
LOG DATA Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:41:49 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
hunter_the_crazychick : philip_gyle: I'm still not finding any instance of Gremlin ever stating that there are 'no deities', or contradicting anything improperly.
gremlin_net : diogenes_of_synope_2003: mass/matter/energy. All the same thing, really.
uper_dhghem : trcendental meditation nero_dermull ;-)
knowledge_309 : The Bible says nothing about demons being in a second heaven.
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : grem: not matter! matter can be created and destroyed
nero_dermull : the theory that all amtter is nothing morer than condesed energy and that all matter is conected by mater condensed at a different level
lovingevolution : Any system of philosophy emphasizing the intuitive and spiritual above the empirical and material
philip_gyle : don't have me post it on here , i still have it in my inbox
simplygorgeous40 : lol, NO I AM NOT A MORMON
knowledge_309 : The mormons belief system is not based on the Bible.
truthisfalse : heaven i'm in demon heaven i met you and... ah, those old songs
uper_dhghem : yeh messiah, LDS/mormons believe in Three Degrees of Heaven.
nero_dermull : what
truthisfalse : am i a mormon?
nero_dermull : three degrees of heavan
truthisfalse : i forget
hunter_the_crazychick : philip_gyle: well then, if you have it, you can most certainly post it in your defense on the board: http://gremlin.net/cgi-data
LOG DATA Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:42:49 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gremlin_net : diogenes_of_synope_2003: you're thinking of elemental compositions; I'm thinking subnuclear components.
lovingevolution : THIS IS HEAVEN. OPEN YOUR THIRD EYE AND SEE IT!
truthisfalse : this is heaven?
uper_dhghem : Celestial, Terrestial, & Telestial i beleive.
gremlin_net : lovingevolution: I only have two eyes.
johntheantibaptist : jfire, i have a search engine and i can only find 5 verses in the entire bible that has the words second, and heaven in them and none of the 5 say second heaven at all, the two words are not used together.
lovingevolution : stop frowning!
philip_gyle : oh yeah lets post it on gremlins page , ok
truthisfalse : gremlin...please...no bragging...i only have one
hunter_the_crazychick : philip_gyle: now you're going to make baseless accusations regarding his messageboard?
nero_dermull : heavan is mearly the next level of nergy
hotvegasman : ty john
truthisfalse : whoops...they it went! sheesh
hotvegasman : and good mornin
zedechiah_the_messiah : the verse by Paul about Paul going to the 2nd heaven is 2 Cor 12:2
gremlin_net : philip_gyle: I wouldn't do that if you're a fraudulent coward; you'd regret it.
nero_dermull : the one that our energy becomes when we die
truthisfalse : hot...so how goes it?
LOG DATA Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:43:49 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
knowledge_309 : According to the Bible demons are on earth..Not in a heaven.
hotvegasman : truth well
hotvegasman : and you
philip_gyle : why do i need to post it anywhere else when i am sure many other people have recieved the same emails
truthisfalse : hot...weird
johntheantibaptist : zed, that is the third heaven
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: whatever this thing you said is, it apparently exists only in his inbox.
lovingevolution : heaven is what we experience with cleansed perception
zedechiah_the_messiah : oo. duh. right. my bad
uper_dhghem : zed, Paul only mentions the third. no first or second.
lovingevolution : *tokes*
hunter_the_crazychick : philip_gyle: except, I'm asking people, and they don't know what you're talking about.
nero_dermull : lol
hotvegasman : weird that good to me
truthisfalse : loving...and that is accomplished?
nero_dermull : or a mouth ful of blotter
gremlin_net : truthisfalse: I tend to regard the one-eyed snake as a separate entity; its eyes, like the rest of it, are its own responsibility >:)
hunter_the_crazychick : philip_gyle: so it appears it only exists in your inbox.
truthisfalse : gremlin...touche!
philip_gyle : are you asking your friends the atheists?/....
ornamentalmind : 423-476-2017
nero_dermull : 8-}
glasmodiar : Did Jesus die for my sins?
jobie00023 : 8-}
LOG DATA Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:44:49 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
lovingevolution : nothing to accomplish - where are you when you no longer discern?
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : grem: even in QM , it's still the mass of the particle, not the particle itself ( it might be nit-picking but the scientifically illiterate will take it out of context and use it in the macroworld)
truthisfalse : "friends the atheists"
jobie00023 : hehe
ornamentalmind : Perry Stone
zedechiah_the_messiah : ...the ideas of multiple heavens come from places like the Enoch books, other "intertestamntal" literature and rabbinic writings
truthisfalse : orna...uh...what is that number and how are you doing?
simplygorgeous40 : well Im afraid I cant find it at the moment, but let me say this, WHY DOESNT GOD PRONOUNCE HIS WORK GOOD ON THE SECOND DAY< AND I WILL KEEP LOOKING< BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IT IN THERE< AND NO I DIDNT HEAR IT FROM ANYONE ELSE
gremlin_net : Hunter: which is odd, since the contents of everyone else's Inboxes still exist at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/atheistvschristian/messages >:)
nero_dermull : surprisingly i believed this room was going to be a war
truthisfalse : zed...does "the divine comedy" count, too?
jobie00023 : same here, nero
zedechiah_the_messiah : no no no
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: and I'm looking at it right now, and I'm seeing nothing.
truthisfalse : oh yea...that's hell
truthisfalse : oops
LOG DATA Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:45:49 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : zed: but 2 cor is talking about a 'dream' or 'vision' of Pal -- and there is some connection of the term 'third' throughout that section of 2 cor
nero_dermull : but it is juts a bunch of friendly bantering
johntheantibaptist : simply, because the bible was written by man, and is full of errors and contridictions.
lovingevolution : only gets good in here when all the seperatists are drunk
jobie00023 : unbelievable!
simplygorgeous40 : I ALREADY DID
glasmodiar : I don't think there are any X-tians here :(
ornamentalmind : He continued his education through Lee University in Cleveland, TN and later earned a B.A. in Theology from Covenant Life Christian College
simplygorgeous40 : THATS WHY
gremlin_net : diogenes_of_synope_2003: the same scientifically illiterate will presume that deities can create matter from nothing if matter is excluded from mass/energy.
truthisfalse : orna? huh?
jobie00023 : i never knew that ppl could discuss religous theorys calmly
uper_dhghem : nero - well to be fair, the beleivers aren't given much of a chance by this crowd...
jobie00023 : nice room here
jobie00023 : hehe
LOG DATA Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:46:49 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
gremlin_net : jobie00023: they can't. In point of fact, there are no 'religious theories'.
knowledge_309 : Cleveland Tenn.. i knew the 423 area code sounded familar.
dove_1966 : morning jj
hunter_the_crazychick : remembers that philip_gyle is the guy who thinks she's proving bibleverses by knowing what a proper death certificate looks like....
knowledge_309 : There are tons of Churches in Cleveland!
truthisfalse : dove :-) how you been?
hunter_the_crazychick : disregards philip as obviously delusional.
simplygorgeous40 : WHy are guys trying to diss Perry Stone, yes I have his link in my profile, HE IS AN ESCELLENT TEACHER< SO WHAT???
nero_dermull : man can not fathom the mind of god because god is a collective conciousness that exsists on a higher realm of energy
dove_1966 : good..thxs..you?
knowledge_309 : lol
knowledge_309 : What is his website?
simplygorgeous40 : brb, lost my screen
truthisfalse : dove...wierd..and glad you are doing well
jobie00023 : well, but god isn't real as people believe it is
truthisfalse : not that guy!
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : grem: even if one talks 'particles' -- when you smash a particle into the constituent parts, the particle itself no longer exists
jobie00023 : its not a thing, just an idea
LOG DATA Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:47:49 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
shadowzone7 : there is only one verse in the entire bible that even mentions a 3rd heaven and it is in one of Pauls letters 2 Cor.12:2 ...There is nothing in the rest of the bible to back up Pauls statement to verify such a place
dove_1966 : lol@weird
holy_sins : Hunter: would you by any chance know the currently popular songs and be able to tell the the name of one from partial lyrics?
ornamentalmind : http://perrystone.org/about_perry_stone.cfm
knowledge_309 : thanks
nero_dermull : we can only greasp small concepts from where it/us/him/her exsist
truthisfalse : smiles at dove
gremlin_net : If philip_gyle lacks the courage to respond to http://gremlin.net/cgi-data/2003-03/58.html the world at large will just take it as read that he concedes. Not a problem.
nero_dermull : that is why the bible is full of mistakes
glasmodiar : any agnostics in here?
philip_gyle : here ya go ........'If you state, as an absolute fact rather than an informed opinion,
that a thing does or does not exist, you'd better be ready to back it
up.'
Yes and no. The wording here is critical. I can state factually
enough that deities don't exist, insofar as there's a general
understanding that 'inexistent' equates to 'does not exist in fact'.
Because deities have not [?yet] been proved to exist in fact, we can
safely state that, as a matter of fact, deities don't exist.
Alternatives include 'deities are mythical' [asserted to exist or
occur despite the lack of factual status], 'deities are fictional',
and so on.
The lack of evidence doesn't prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that
a creature is pure fiction--the megamouth and giant squid were
recent
nero_dermull : the hand of man wrote it
nero_dermull : the ideas are still goo
gremlin_net : philip_gyle: don't do that again, Fraud.
zedechiah_the_messiah : various pieces of jewish literature refer to 3, 7, 11 or 13 heavens or "spheres"
philip_gyle : hows that
LOG DATA Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:48:49 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
uper_dhghem : yeh, looking at these links, looks like she's just a typical evangelist, definitely not LDS.
uper_dhghem : ANYWAYS, we must be really draging the bottom to still be talking about simplygorgeous' delusions!
holy_sins : .... or not
gremlin_net : philip_gyle: verbatim. And perfect for disproving your libel that I ever stated that deities absolutely fail to exist. Idiot.
zedechiah_the_messiah : Pauls reference touches on that and may have to do with those "superlative" apostles. they may be claiming to practice hechelot and Paul is trying to compete
ornamentalmind : zed, you are getting mystical on us now :))
hunter_the_crazychick : holy_sins: umm....
philip_gyle : <--awaits onslaught
hunter_the_crazychick : holy_sins: maybe?
truthisfalse : that yellow font...sheesh
hunter_the_crazychick : holy_sins: who knows....
ridethelight34761 : "We are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively" .. I add.. through an infinite amount of perceivers.
dove_1966 : orn..hello
webtraveler222 : the most valuable knowledge i have aquired in my lifetime is the fact that god is bullshit...priceless
holy_sins : Hunter: nobody said it was easy
oh its such a shame for us to part
nobody said it was easy
noone ever said it would be so hard
im going back to the start
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : zed: yup -- but poor simply was attempting to equate the days of creation to creation(S) of the 3 heavens ( and is arguing from silence about the 2nd day)
holy_sins : those are the partial lyrics
zedechiah_the_messiah : Orn, in a second im going to put on my cape and leap a tall building in a single bound
hotvegasman : screwed try known deities
zedechiah_the_messiah : so watch out
LOG DATA Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:49:49 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
ornamentalmind : waves at dove_1966
ridethelight34761 : ya
hotvegasman : dovy
glasmodiar : you can prove that a god doesn't exist by demonstrateing that it's qualities are contradictory
truthisfalse : ha hot!
dove_1966 : hotty
testurself : whose winning?
zedechiah_the_messiah : Dio, yeah, but Simply is a complete moron and lives in my ignore
truthisfalse : who was the teen idol that sang, "come back, when you grow up girl, you're still living in a make believe world"?
philip_gyle : hunter care to say that it doesnt eist now??
webtraveler222 : its easy to know god is krap...but proving god exists is the problem
philip_gyle : exist
glasmodiar : I don't think there are any Christians in here Testyourself
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : zed: what's your take on 2 Cor w/r/t Paul's use of 'three'?
ornamentalmind : chuckes at zedechiah_the_messiah
philip_gyle : <--christian
LOG DATA Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:50:49 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
glasmodiar : YAY!
hunter_the_crazychick : philip_gyle: care to say what doesn't exist?
testurself : oh ok glasmodiar, wow that makes for a boring vs
uper_dhghem : is anyone else in chat via Yahoo Messenger (god knows why i am) and looking at a stupid looking "netflix" person?
webtraveler222 : christians are part of a cult
hunter_the_crazychick : philip_gyle: did you post? I don't see a post on the board.
gremlin_net : philip_gyle: I realise that you're debilitatingly retarded, so I'll give you, say, thirty seconds to notice that, in support of you libel that I've claimed that deities absolutely fail to exist, you posted my quote that '[T]he lack of evidence doesn't prove beyod the shadow of a doubt that a creature is pure fiction'. Plebeian.
philip_gyle : the email from gremlin, that i just posted
testurself : cant see your font monkey is too light
hotvegasman : known deities people you cant test what you cant know
glasmodiar : I was wrong though! Screwed... is a x-tian
knowledge_309 : Who was it that was talking about a second heaven?
johntheantibaptist : uper, i have y tunnel all those stupid little ads go bye bye.
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : knowledge: she left
truthisfalse : hot...can you not know what you test?
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : oops- simply's back
hunter_the_crazychick : philip_gyle: if you posted it in here, you got filtered. I told you to post it to the board; can you not follow rules?
LOG DATA Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:51:49 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
knowledge_309 : Oh, I see..
dove_1966 : l'm wondering why people are sitting in here bragging about post-education..who really gives a shit..and what point does that make?
hunter_the_crazychick : holy_sins: gimme a second.
hotvegasman : yes
knowledge_309 : lol
holy_sins : Hunter: okay.
truthisfalse : dove...love me...i have a high school diploma...somewhere
truthisfalse : lol
zedechiah_the_messiah : Dio: what the hell is w/r/t? thats the second time ive seen you use it. And i dont get much out of it. The other references are about his return to see the conregation in Corinth. The verse of hechelot just invokes contemporary ideas, if you ask me
webtraveler222 : its easy to find out where the idea of gods came from
ornamentalmind : dove, some are doing that?...hmmm, i must have 'em on iggy
truthisfalse : sorry hunter for the "lol"
knowledge_309 : That would take away the Christian excuse for sinning.
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : with respect to ( i thought that was a common abbreviation)
hunter_the_crazychick : holy_sins: is this it? http://www.bun.ru/Lyrics/C/Coldplay/A_Rush_Of_Blood_To_The_Head/The_Scientist.shtml
philip_gyle : ........'If you state, as an absolute fact rather than an informed opinion, that a thing does or does not exist, you'd better be ready to back it up.' Yes and no. The wording here is critical. I can state factually enough that deities don't exist, insofar as there's a general understanding that 'inexistent' equates to 'does not exist in fact'. Because deities have not [?yet] been proved to exist in fact, we can safely state that, as a matter of fact, deities don't exist. Alternatives include 'deities are mythical' [asserted to exist or occur despite the lack of factual status], 'deities are fictional', and so on. The lack of evidence doesn't prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that a creature is pure fiction--the megamouth and giant squid were recent
glasmodiar: any agnostics in here?
johntheantibaptist : ed, have you tried a used book store?
zedechiah_the_messiah : aaahhhhhh
testurself : knowledge the Christians i know dont think their is a reason to sin
LOG DATA Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:52:49 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
zedechiah_the_messiah : are you calling me common you s.o.b.?
hunter_the_crazychick : philip_gyle: and that justifies your post how?
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : zed: we used it all the time at work
hotvegasman : lol
truthisfalse : zed...no, i am
holy_sins : Hunter: let me check.
webtraveler222 : gods are silly ideas we came up with long ago
zedechiah_the_messiah : DAMN you people!
gremlin_net : Hunter: philip_gyle posted my quote that '[T]he lack of evidence doesn't prove beyod the shadow of a doubt that a creature is pure fiction' in support of his libel that I've claimed that deities absolutely don't exist. He's a self-fucking moron.
holy_sins : yes! thank you Hunter :)
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : zed: was that your 'heston' impersonation?
dove_1966 : yes l do jj..with or without l love ya
zedechiah_the_messiah : Dio: ah. hip and groovy
webtraveler222 : there have been many gods ...and they come and go...but the truth cannot be changed
philip_gyle : he says there are no dieties...that was the point of what i wrote
lovingevolution : ahhhh
truthisfalse : zed...i used to worship you...but none of my prayers were answered
the_chainsawpsycho : Thank God for Subway.
testurself : to say what messiah?
truthisfalse : awww...thanks dove :X
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: doesn't quite work; I have that post. That post can't possibly be the one he's using to justify his comment, because it doesn't justify his comment in any way.
zedechiah_the_messiah : Dio: there will be such a cry throughout the land that you will surely let my people go
lovingevolution : boot city is my favorite drink of water
LOG DATA Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:53:49 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
webtraveler222 : religion is the silliest thing a man can do
holy_sins : Shut up Chain >.<
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : zed: i was thinking more of 'planet of the apes' :))
gremlin_net : philip_gyle: the point of what you wrote--beyond whatever you intended to accomplish--was that you're an illiterate fraud.
holy_sins : Just for that, you owe me a cold cut trio
hunter_the_crazychick : philip_gyle: where did he say there were no deities?
truthisfalse : lol zed
the_chainsawpsycho : Hey Mindy ;)
zedechiah_the_messiah : GODDAMN YOU ALL TO HEEEEELLLL
truthisfalse : hi chain...how goes it
truthisfalse : ?
the_chainsawpsycho : jjj: It's going well, thank you.
webtraveler222 : there is no hell..except for church
truthisfalse : zed...me too?
testurself : medechiah you believe in hell?
zedechiah_the_messiah : its a mad house. a MAAADDDHOOOUUUSSE
truthisfalse :
gremlin_net : Hunter: I'm aware. And he just attempted to boot the room in general with the entire EMail, which still disproved his libel.
truthisfalse : but, i thought...
hunter_the_crazychick : philip_gyle: he stated that there's no evidence; that they have not been proved; his post had nothing to do with the existence or nonexistence, but the bullshit semantics you're obviously trying to pull with the post.
hotvegasman : philip if you come into jesus family by eccepting christ whos family did you come from the devils
LOG DATA Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:54:49 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
zedechiah_the_messiah : Test, pipedown, im not talking to you
hotvegasman : excepting
ornamentalmind : <<< knows there is a hell, it's dokosis
testurself : ok messiah
philip_gyle : hunter i am not going to wate my time in word play , it is quite plain that he is refering to , even a dumb christain like me can see it
hunter_the_crazychick : philip_gyle: go back to cfan and pretend that people rise from the dead....
webtraveler222 : gods followers are no able to see with the bible in the way
the_chainsawpsycho : Zed = the love child of Charleton Heston and Ernest Borgnine
truthisfalse : not des moines?
gremlin_net : Hell is a small town in Michigan.
lovingevolution : some churches have an air of sacredness that i cannot deny, dispite my prejudices
truthisfalse : chain...i thought it was don knotts?
hunter_the_crazychick : philip_gyle: if you're not going to waste your time in wordplay, then you shouldn't have wasted your time posting that bullshit assertion....
nero_dermull : hey itys more hostile at my house than it is in here
ornamentalmind :
philip_gyle: hunter i am not going to wate my time in word play , it is quite plain that he is refering to , even a dumb christain like me can see it :))
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : gremlin: and a nice one at that!
taz36401 : the bible is the best book i ever read
zedechiah_the_messiah : Ernie Borgnine is SEXY
the_chainsawpsycho : jjj: There have been rumors.
hotvegasman : chain
truthisfalse : lol zed...chain
truthisfalse : orna...you are a christian?
LOG DATA Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:55:49 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
webtraveler222 : all churches are loaded with morons who cannot think for themselves
truthisfalse : that explains it
lovingevolution : cool ending though taz huh? trippy....
gremlin_net : diogenes_of_synope_2003: I've been there. I wasn't impressed. I'm happier now that I've returned from Hell.
zedechiah_the_messiah : ok. im going away
the_chainsawpsycho : Hey Vegas. I heard that bambi hunting was between 5-10 grand per person.
johntheantibaptist : good quote from Star trek (original series) Kirk to apollo "We don't need you any more, we have out grown the need for gods." that is parapharased.
hunter_the_crazychick : Hell is a small town in Michigan that spends most of the yearly budget replacing the "Hell" freeway exist sign....
truthisfalse : zed...leave the clone
truthisfalse : let him live a little
webtraveler222 : religion is just a form of brainwashing
webtraveler222 : simple
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : zed: didn't Paul write 4 letters to Corinth? is it possible that 2 cor is actually 3 cor?
hotvegasman : lmfao
johntheantibaptist : lol vegas
gremlin_net : Hunter: they make the money back on the tourist trade; droves of morons flood in to mail out postcards from Hell.
LOG DATA Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:56:49 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
lovingevolution : religion is a methodology: fundamentalism is a method of brainwashing
taz36401 : no its not only a dumb person like you would think that
the_chainsawpsycho : Gremlin: The ice cream in Hell, and Damn U. are big draws, as well.
webtraveler222 : religion is 100 percent bull krap
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: just like they do from the Hell in those islands on one of those bullshit cruises.
glasmodiar : I have to say I'm with evolution on that
truthisfalse : chain...no snowballs?
hunter_the_crazychick : went to Damn U.
gremlin_net : Has philip_gyle stopped blathering his fraud, or is he just finally being filtred?
hotvegasman : chain ears you know
truthisfalse : hunter...did you graduate and get a post-goddamn degree?
webtraveler222 : without evolution...bibles would not exist
ornamentalmind : laughs at hunter_the_crazychick
taz36401 : yall are soooooo stupid
the_chainsawpsycho : jjj: Snowballs are not that uncommon. Winter is the best 8 months of the year, in Michigan.
hotvegasman : i just wasted two good jokes
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: He shut up for a while, after saying 'i am not going to waste my time in word play'.
testurself : evolution i think its like some like vanilla but others only eat vanilla
lovingevolution : science only caught up with the buddha in 1940
LOG DATA Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:57:49 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
johntheantibaptist : vegas, one reason i married my wife is because she has the jew mentality, she can talk a person down on price like no other,
testurself : messiah the family of satan?
truthisfalse : chain...so there is hope and snowballs in hell
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : loving: :)) yeah, right
hunter_the_crazychick : truth: nah; I transferred to Fuck U. after a year.
hotvegasman : john lmfao
gremlin_net : Hunter: then he's not only conceded, but apologised.
the_chainsawpsycho : Vegas: I'm sure other people heard them. It's not a waste. hehehehehehe
dove_1966 : have a good day all..gotta do some work now:)
onthehighwaytohell82 : I hardly see this chatrooms point anymore..granted you can come here and people will actually talk. But either way your gonna have your opinion..christian or atheist...and there wont always be answers...no we cant provide undenial proof that god exsists. Just like you believe ina theism. If you cant accept that people believe what they believe..wether your christian or jew..then shit it sucks to be you
truthisfalse : hunter...excellent choice!
truthisfalse : dove...be well
nero_dermull : my step dad is flipping out
lovingevolution : read 'the tao of physics' fritjof kapra diogenes :)
nero_dermull : lol
vileg0d : ?
onthehighwaytohell82 : atheism
lovingevolution : great book
hotvegasman : chain i wouldnt know how much it is...i am not paying ....remember i was born a jew
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : loving: :)) i have -- what a terrible book!
LOG DATA Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:58:49 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
the_chainsawpsycho : Vegas: Good call. >:)
truthisfalse : hot...what will you die as?
testurself : haha thats a good one, if my real dad was a liar, killer, destroyer yes i would leave to be adopted by someone who would bless me
hunter_the_crazychick : sets ornamentalmind to see if he'll laugh at her again.
webtraveler222 : the bible is a book of mental illness
vileg0d : hmmm
truthisfalse : hunter...that was pretty clever
vileg0d : i agree
testurself : yes
truthisfalse : web...howso?
philip_gyle : ........'If you state, as an absolute fact rather than an informed opinion, that a thing does or does not exist, you'd better be ready to back it up.' Yes and no. The wording here is critical. I can state factually enough that deities don't exist, insofar as there's a general understanding that 'inexistent' equates to 'does not exist in fact'. Because deities have not [?yet] been proved to exist in fact, we can safely state that, as a matter of fact, deities don't exist. Alternatives include 'deities are mythical' [asserted to exist or occur despite the lack of factual status], 'deities are fictional', and so on. The lack of evidence doesn't prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that a creature is pure fiction--the megamouth and giant squid were recent
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : loving: books like that are the cause of so many 'illiterate physics' people in the world
taz36401 : i dont
hotvegasman : hopefully a old man truth
vileg0d : the bible is nothin but lies that some numbnuts made up
vileg0d : -.-
nero_dermull : no i think the bible is a good book
truthisfalse : hot...good answer!
lovingevolution : what didn't you like about it diogenes?
nero_dermull : just ful of mistakes
simplygorgeous40 : bbl, I WILL FIND THIS AND I WILL BE BACK, GOD BLESS!
webtraveler222 : the bible is bad for kid brains
preparation_h_medicated_asswipe : if man is five if man is 5 if man is 5
testurself : however that is not what i see in that verse but who am i to say,
nero_dermull : the concepts are good
gremlin_net : philip_gyle: what did I tell you about trying to boot people, Fraud? Here's your shirt: http://booter.grem.tv
hotvegasman : asswipe
LOG DATA Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:59:49 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
lovingevolution : you are the first person i have ever heard say anything -ve about it...
truthisfalse : hi prep...how goes it?
nero_dermull : the way they are interpreted can be very bad
philip_gyle : ok can anyone inhere honestly say that gremlinisnt saying that dieties don't exist from the last post i made??
preparation_h_medicated_asswipe : THEN THE DEVIL IS SIX THE DEVIL IS SIX
gremlin_net : philip_gyle is gonged for 9999 days for booting.
ornamentalmind : philip, find a link to all of that verbage, ok?
preparation_h_medicated_asswipe : veegaz
webtraveler222 : church is now considered chld abuse
preparation_h_medicated_asswipe : GOD IS SEVEN
preparation_h_medicated_asswipe : this monkeys gone to heavan
truthisfalse : what am i?
truthisfalse : am i number 1?
truthisfalse : yay!
high_rollen_g_777 : im back
taz36401 : FROG fully rely on god
lovingevolution : santa is the worst for kid's brains...kills off belief in anything beyond the senses
high_rollen_g_777 : hahaha
testurself : people who believe in Christ believe they are dead spiritually until they accept is that right?
nero_dermull : yes
truthisfalse : wow...some people can't see me...hmmmm
nero_dermull : that is what they believe
ridethelight34761 : The bible is just a collection of letters grouped together in words then sentences to convery ideas. So basically everything one reads in a holy book is just an idea in your head and not really divine at all.
johntheantibaptist : test, fyi, my dad was a killer/destroyer and i am quite sure he has told a few lies in his life, i do not deny him as my father, i wish it were that simple. i do however hold myself to a higher moral code.
LOG DATA Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:00:49 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
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