16 March 2004 at 11.58.01 ZuluTime

The Idiot of the Year

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Posted by Gremlin [24.8.18.225 - c-24-8-18-225.client.comcast.net] on 16 March 2004 at 11.58.01 ZuluTime:

Funny thing: just as I was about to post what I figured counted as the Idiot of the Month for the year 2004, I was disproved; instead, tinkerbell_is_a_troll entered the 'net at us. The bar has been raised....

LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 02:57:15 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v sogelegos, I'll quote it for the room
     gremlin_net* is back
     gremlin_net: Back.
     karl_von_hess1333: jesus never condemned slavery or rape...i guess they werent important in ancient rome
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: karl...jesus said "shit this sucks!"....lol...or " i never want to see another cross as long as i live"...lol
     jotunrunner: h karl: and jesus spake, saying: "Pastrami on rye with the white cheese please. some mustard, and perchance a slice of lettice and pickled cabbage on."
     wiccan_goddess02: no he meant the .... not the "" :))
     internal_positive_vision: you see ......
     jotunrunner: h that man made a brilliant sandwich.
     karl_von_hess1333: heh
     robbssite2001: naa, ALL the slaves were raped back then
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 02:57:55 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     LOG OPEN Wed, 17 Mar 2004 02:57:56 gremlin_net, limb0
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 02:58:26 gremlin_net, limb0
     wiccan_goddess02: on what?
     internal_positive_vision: christ knew that judgement causes rife between each other
     friendly_douche: im a line cook
     sogelegos: he condemned homosexuality in leviticus 18:22
     wiccan_goddess02: ahhh
     karl_von_hess1333: jesus was a great teacher...too bad he left out a lot of stuff
     sogelegos: and romans 1:26,27
     friendly_douche: so i fed about 90 people in about 20 minutes
     sogelegos: he couldn't have been just a teacher he didn't leave room for that
     paragon_of_narcissism: Personally i think enoch is pretty cool it shows a lot of mythology of the old testament.
     friendly_douche: and then they kept coming
     robbssite2001: jesus wasn't alive in biblical timescale during leviticus
     wiccan_goddess02: wow that's a lot of ppl
     sogelegos: read C.S. Lewis to find out what I mean
     karl_von_hess1333: jesus never condemned homosexuality ...leviticus isnt jesus
     sogelegos: I know that
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö Paul isn't Jesus either.
     friendly_douche: yeah the restaurant got full all at once
     internal_positive_vision: he knew that us thinking we have knowledge between good and evil is what causes hatred and negativity in this world
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 02:59:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     robbssite2001: OR romans
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: jesus was a fairy and flew around with Peter Pan
     robbssite2001: wait
     sogelegos: but since Jesus is God and the whole bible is inspired by God, He did condemn it
     paragon_of_narcissism: It talks about the nephilim and how they came to earth and bed with the daughters of kings.
     internal_positive_vision: chris t never condemned
     robbssite2001: maybe first part
     gremlin_net: Jeepers in Leviticus? Isn't that a bit like Han Solo in The Phantom Menace?
     friendly_douche: jesus was a man
     internal_positive_vision: he guided
     lisa_the_insomniac* laughs at sogelegos.
     internal_positive_vision: the bible says
     paragon_of_narcissism: And taught the men how to contruct swords and taugth them enchantments and stuff
     silkside2003:  nyx, have you noticed name here salva veritate
     robbssite2001: the nephilim were et's
     karl_von_hess1333: if you want to follow the old testament on homosexuality you'd better follow the old testmanrt dietary laws also
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: HIM...prove it
     robbssite2001: 'god' was an et >-)
     wiccan_goddess02: /:)
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v "Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." "Rom 16:20 And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen. " How is this quote from Genesis a reference to the quote from Romans?
     paragon_of_narcissism: it makes references to the angels
     internal_positive_vision: if you condem others you condemn yourself
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:00:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     karl_von_hess1333: jesus condemned the fig tree..jesus condemned the money changers
     sogelegos: bruise thy heas and bruise his heel
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö Shall we go into the bible and see all the OTHER things "God" condemned? Things that nobody today still thinks are sinful? That we think are even silly for once being considered sinful?
     gremlin_net: internal_positive_vision: I doubt that.
     wiccan_goddess02: I thought Jesus was the son of God :-?
     vertical_pig: Hmmm
     vertical_pig: Lisa: Are you still using Cheeta Chat?
     friendly_douche: i dont see god as an anthropomorphic
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö Homosexuality will be one of those someday.
     wiccan_goddess02: ok no one really answer that please :))
     gremlin_net: wiccan_goddess02: sometimes.
     sogelegos: speaks of Christ's death that would hurt him temporarily, but destroy satans grasp on believers
     jotunrunner: h hell thats half his story, is gettin the tightasses to come off layin down the old law like it was gods only word.
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: jesus was the tooth fairy..i have proof...i prayed to jesus for money for my tooth and there it was
     silkside2003:  means saving the truth (knowledge)
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö Pig, no. It stopped working on me about two months ago.
     internal_positive_vision: karl he punished
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö I have to use YahELite now.
     demiurge_nt: Romans 1:26 is where God "gave up" people to "vile affections"...there is no condemnation.
     vertical_pig: Ah, that's why I couldn't get in now
     vertical_pig* haven't tried using it for ages
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:01:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v sogelegos: umm, no... if anything, the quote from Romans references Genesis, not vice versa, try again
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö They stopped updating it.
     friendly_douche: "god" to me is tabula rosa, an infinite void
     gremlin_net: I condemn people all the time. Often because they deserve it.
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö I don't know why.
     internal_positive_vision: that parable actually is about christians that do not bear fruit
     karl_von_hess1333: jesus threatened everyone with eternal torture
     sogelegos: no it isn't
     paragon_of_narcissism: 1 And then Michael, Uriel, Raphael, and Gabriel looked down from heaven and saw much blood being 2 shed upon the earth, and all lawlessness being wrought upon the earth. And they said one to another: 'The earth made without inhabitant cries the voice of their cryingst up to the gates of heaven. 3 And now to you, the holy ones of heaven, the souls of men make their suit, saying, "Bring our cause 4 before the Most High."'
     friendly_douche: darkness, nothingness
     vertical_pig: Lisa: Can you spam the YahELite link for me?
     wiccan_goddess02: Hey Bri...remind me later to tell you about the dream I had last night. It's pretty wierd to
     sogelegos: did you read in the context?
     internal_positive_vision: about those that do not share their gifts
     robbssite2001: xianity = believe OR BURN!!!!! MUAHAHAHA!!!!
     paragon_of_narcissism: if you ever saw the movie Prophecy the books of enoch is mostly about all that.
     internal_positive_vision: give life to another
     lisa_the_insomniac: YahELite http://yahelite.org Yahoo! Chat without spam.
     wiccan_goddess02: too*
     karl_von_hess1333: in context..jesus was a sadistic coward
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:02:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     gremlin_net: Christianity is organised terrorism.
     internal_positive_vision: karl i say we condemn ourselves
     vertical_pig: THank you kindly
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: jesus was a cross dresser
     lisa_the_insomniac* rolls her eyes at the silly things people say.
     internal_positive_vision: christ has shown us the path to life
     vertical_pig: Tinkerbell: No, he was gay, not cross
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v sogelegos: yes, I did... it's still valid, the quote from Romans references 3:15, not vice versa
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: that's actually very funny.
     internal_positive_vision: for every one that wishes to follow
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v Genesis 3:15
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v ***
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v oops
     gremlin_net: internal_positive_vision: counts me out.
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:03:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: lisa....not any more silly than you saying atheists probve there is a god :))
     sparks_the_worldhopper: ...
     internal_positive_vision: karl and gremlin
     alcyonian* is away (away)
     allzlozt_1: christ hasn't shhown me anything, not even that he existed
     internal_positive_vision: you chose your own path
     gremlin_net: internal_positive_vision: I've considered your offer and rejected it. Next?
     paragon_of_narcissism: Ah the ole Apocrypha
     internal_positive_vision: sure thats your choice
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö tinkerbell_is_a_babe, ah. That's what set you off before. I'm sorry your ancestors never evolved a sense of humour. :P
     internal_positive_vision: thats your free will
     vertical_pig: Back later
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö I was spoofing some of the silly arguments fundies make.
     wiccan_goddess02: brb gonna room hop to the Kansas rooms
     paragon_of_narcissism: To think of it..the Apocrypha was the only cool part of the bible.
     robbssite2001: free will an omnescience doesn't miz
     robbssite2001: mix
     karl_von_hess1333: jesus is good at handing out torture...not so good at experiencing it himself
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö Here, I'll spoof one they make about ME, all the time.
     lisa_the_insomniac* . o O ( Argument from Insomnia: 1) You can't sleep. 2) It must be because you feel guilty about your sinful life, 3) Therefore God exists. )
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:04:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: lisa...i am sorry your ancestors never evoved a brain :))
     internal_positive_vision: i equate it as trying to climb everest without an experienced guide
     robbssite2001: lol@lisa
     internal_positive_vision: somebody that knows
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö tinkerbell_is_a_babe, ah, you're a fundie. I see. My apologies for trying to interact with you intelligently. Bye.
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: lol lisa
     karl_von_hess1333: the bible says god choses our path
     gremlin_net: internal_positive_vision: yup. With my free will, I reject your deities, Al'lah, Quetzalcoatl, Zeus, Odin, and Santa Claus. Kinda like what you do; i just go a handful of deiteis further with it.
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: lisa...but that is true....lol
     sogelegos: Philippians 2:9-11 It will happen, I hope and pray that you do before the day spoken of in the passage
     sogelegos: now rather than engage in useless debate with people who are too close-minded to hear both sides of the story, I'm going to bed so I can be conscious for most of my school classes
     robbssite2001: so where's the free will?
     internal_positive_vision: sure its possible to find your way there
     sogelegos: Good night
     internal_positive_vision: hilary did it
     friendly_douche: sweet dreams chelsea
     karl_von_hess1333: Ro:8:30: "Moreover whom GOD did predestinate, them he also called"
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:05:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     demiurge_nt: sogelegos: Please, no superstitious threats 8-|
     wiccan_goddess02: You going to bed?
     karl_von_hess1333: predestine isnt "chose our own path"
     internal_positive_vision: actually he didnt do it on his own did he
     gremlin_net: internal_positive_vision: how do you find your way without the guidance of Zeus?
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v Lisa, you said that atheists prove there is a God?
     kiwi_nomad2004: fundi predestination as well..... we are being extreme tonight lol
     friendly_douche: yeah i shoulkd get at least a few hours in
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: lisa....a fundie?....sorry i am not i deal in facts...show me one proof of a god of you have no ground
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere, tinker is talking about my "Argument from Crafty Atheism" post.
     wiccan_goddess02: lol ok...goodnight >:D<
     seelauralee: Anyone want to amuse us on mic?
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v Lisa, LMAO
     internal_positive_vision: i suggest that zeus is maybe the same god .....
     friendly_douche: good night>:D<
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö tinker didn't realize it was humour.
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v tinkerbell, have you ever heard of Sarcasm?
     karl_von_hess1333: no..zeus liked chicks
     internal_positive_vision: names changed due to language and cultural barriers
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:06:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     gremlin_net: internal_positive_vision: then you haven't read at least one novel. I've read both. They're different deiteis.
     gremlin_net: deities*
     internal_positive_vision: maybe
     internal_positive_vision: maybe not
     lisa_the_insomniac* . o O ( Argument from Passion: 1) people only call out to existing beings. 2) people call out "Oh GOD!" while making love. 3) even ATHEISTS sometimes do this. 4) This means even atheists know God exists. 5) Therefore, God exists. )
     internal_positive_vision: life is much lke that;)
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: lisa.....i told you it was an OXYMORON...which it is
     kiwi_nomad2004: rofl lisa that is a good one
     internal_positive_vision: gremlin basically
     gremlin_net: internal_positive_vision: Zeus, for example, was one of scads of deities, each with a specific function. Is christianity admittedly polytheistic now, or is Zeus different than Jehovah after all?
     internal_positive_vision: if atheism makes you happy
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: lisa..use it all you want, it suits you fine
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:07:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     karl_von_hess1333: while zeus was throwing out lightening bolts..jesus was sitting on his fat ass with a lamb on his lap
     internal_positive_vision: good for you
     karl_von_hess1333: totally different gods
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: lol karl
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö tinkerbell_is_a_babe, get a clue before trying to "rebuke" me, fundie.
     internal_positive_vision: but with my belief i can smile and have hope when the worst things happen to me
     paragon_of_narcissism: What's funny is...The word of god is so holy...why does the church edit it?
     gremlin_net: internal_positive_vision: it's not so much that atheism makes me happy as that theism wouldn't make me happy.
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: lisa..oh boy i am a fundie huh?....how do you get i am a fundie?
     karl_von_hess1333: occationally jesus would throw a lamb...but not far..and not often
     internal_positive_vision: i can be graciour the "bad things"
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö Here, go look at the rest of the list.
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö "Therefore, God exists" - The List of Arguments: http://facts4god.faithweb.com/thelist.html
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:08:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     internal_positive_vision: gremlin
     gremlin_net: internal_positive_vision: without belief, I can react in time to prevent most of the bad things about to happen to me.
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v tinkerbell, 1) she's not using it to try and prove God, and she knows it's an oxymoron, and 2) it's supposed to be humorous, not serious, ya know, a joke, one that atheists laugh at?
     internal_positive_vision: theism is about being positive
     gremlin_net: internal_positive_vision: lucky me, when bad things are about to happen to me, I don't freeze up like a deer in the headlights and pray to the bogeyman about it.
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö tinker, you're acting like a fundie. An anti-theist fundie.
     internal_positive_vision: believing positively about the unknown
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: lisa...it is clear you don't know much but speak though your ass.......show me ONE PROOF of your goofy mythical god, or you just don't have a debate now do you? :))
     demiurge_nt: internal_positive_vision: Hated and bigotry are not positive ;)
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v LISA, LOL, WTF IS HER PROBLEM?
     karl_von_hess1333: postive theism: "i with smite 5 generations for the sins of the father"
     internal_positive_vision: demi i agree
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:09:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v OMG
     karl_von_hess1333: nice god ya got there
     gremlin_net: internal_positive_vision: I don't bother with beliefs. If I don't know something, I either look it up, or disregard it as trivia.
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö I don't have to show proof of my "goofy mythical god". I never claimed I could. Nor did I say you should believe either, moron. Gain a brain.
     internal_positive_vision: then you have faith in your books?
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: lisa....you are a pea brain for even reading such stupid lists :))
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere, tinker misread one comment from me, assumed *I* was a fundie, and went into attack mode. And now is too proud to admit she was wrong.
     demiurge_nt: internal_positive_vision: The Bible condones hatred and bigotry. Would you like chapter and verse?
     gremlin_net: internal_positive_vision: nope. I'm a nullifidian.
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö At least, that's my take on it.
     durtyolman2* is back
     durtyolman2: back
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v tinkerbell, The list is a list of jokes, it's supposed to be funny
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:10:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     karl_von_hess1333: Lev. 25:44 states that people may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. its ok to sell a daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7
     internal_positive_vision: demi with patience comes understanding
     gremlin_net: Lisa: someone's misidentified you as another fluffbunny fundy? Someone don't know yous very well....
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: lisa....then you are just wasting your time in here...this is a debate room and you debate with nothing :))
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö grem, I know. :)
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v wow... this is pointless
     allzlozt_1: tinkerbell, it is a joke page about logical fallacies, get a sense of humor already
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: lisa...you were a loser even before you came in here :)
     kiwi_nomad2004: tinkerbell... you are a moronic deadshit..... and it is time I went to bed.....
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v LMAO
     kiwi_nomad2004: cya all
     internal_positive_vision: nothing has meaning if it comes easy
     durtyolman2: bye kiwi
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö tinkerbell_is_a_babe, I don't claim to be a theologist. Or a bible scholar. I don't debate that stuff. I know more about biology and other science. So I debate that with the fundies.
     Alcyonian* is away (Away)
     internal_positive_vision: like one night stands lol
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö But I guess that's beyond you also.
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:11:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     internal_positive_vision: you treasure through labour
     internal_positive_vision: hard work
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: Lisa is a fortunate anomaly. She belives in a form of deity, but doesn't believe in the terroristic practise of attempting to get anyone else to believe in it.
     internal_positive_vision: misery even
     robbssite2001: i like one night stands, every now and again
     karl_von_hess1333: a bible that allows slavery but doesnt condemn rape is worthless
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö High praise from gremlin. :)
     gremlin_net: internal_positive_vision: one night stands come easily. And yeah, they're largely meaningless. So what?
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:12:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     internal_positive_vision: thats why i can be gracious with 'negativity" i in life
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: iforgot...yeah, they are dumb to me, and lisa is dumb also...she tries to play the debating game and the only thing she can use all the time is calling atheists fundies :)) what a joke
     karl_von_hess1333: Numbers 31 "kill all the women, the boys, and the girls who have known a man, but save the virgins for yourself"
     lisa_the_insomniac* chuckles.
     karl_von_hess1333: kill the babies and fuck the virgins
     gremlin_net: Lisa: truth rarely exhibits praise or insult; it just kinda is >:)
     karl_von_hess1333: nice positive bible
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: lisa....amaze me for once and say something smart for once...i dare you
     allzlozt_1: tinkerbel, she isn't using joke fallacies to debate god, idiot!
     internal_positive_vision: it doesnt come in one night;)
     gremlin_net: internal_positive_vision: what doesn't?
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö tinker, I've been doing so all along. You can't recognize it, apparently.
     durtyolman2: tinker, give it abreak
     rev_ether: evening all
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v tinkerbell_is_a_babe: SHE'S NOT TRYING TO CONVINCE PEOPLE THAT HER "GOOFY MYTHICAL GOD EXISTS. THAT PHRASE YOU TALKED ABOUT WAS PART OF A JOKE
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:13:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     shadedarksun: He who doth not knoweth love, doth not knoweth God, for God is love. remember the bible was written by man
     rev_ether: indeedy
     rev_ether: tis a book
     demiurge_nt: God is love?? :))
     internal_positive_vision: karl like life
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: allz.....i know what she is about...she is a "SIDELINER" and don't call me an idiot dumbfuck..i know what she is about
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö She's gonna keep digging herself in deeper. Maybe I should just ignore her. She'll get over it eventually.
     rev_ether: not a very good one at that..
     internal_positive_vision: you will find what you seek
     demiurge_nt: Can we love AND fear God? (Deuteronomy 6:5) We must love God (Deuteronomy 6:13) We must fear God (Matthew 22:37) We must love God (I Peter 2:17) We must fear God (I John 4:18) Perfect love cannot be mingled with fear
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v IT WAS JUST A JOKE, ONE YOU, AS AN ATHEIST, ARE SUPPOSED TO LAUGH AT
     karl_von_hess1333: god drowns every baby in a great flood...nice "love"
     durtyolman2: god is more like a nasty pimp
     shadedarksun: God is everything, kinda the embodiement of chaos
     gremlin_net: Lisa: which reminds me--I've been meaning to tell you that some atheists have no sense of humour whatsoever....
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v tinkerbell_is_a_babe: apparently, you don't
     karl_von_hess1333: Jeremiah 13:14 "I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy."
     karl_von_hess1333: nice love
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:14:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     gremlin_net: internal_positive_vision: are you actually conversing with someone anonymous, or just trolling now?
     internal_positive_vision: i think fear means repect
     demiurge_nt: Jeremiah...wasn't he a bullfrog? :D
     Alcyonian* is back
     Alcyonian* stretches.
     Alcyonian* is atheists, and will call an atheist fundy a fundy.
     karl_von_hess1333: god is mercy?...god didnt say that
     shadedarksun: Wrathful/Vengeful God indeed, it has never been denied
     Alcyonian: *atheist.
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: allz..i know what a sideliner is when i see one...lisa plays both sides like she thinks she is smart and doesn't have a pot to piss in
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö grem, I know. :) Perhaps from growing up in a fundie environment. They became atheist, but never developed that sense of humour...
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v tinkerbell, if anything, Lisa is what you might call "on the atheist's side"
     gothic_vixn: No fear is fear...it has nothing to do with respect
     karl_von_hess1333: god said the opposite
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v tinkerbell_is_a_babe: forget it
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö iforgot, yes. I do tend to be on the atheists' "side" most of the time... :)
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:15:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     gremlin_net: Lisa: in modern times, I see more fundies evolving directly into wiccans. Which is probably the easiest transition.
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: iforgot.,..i don't?...oh amaze me then
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö Especially when science comes up. As it often does.
     Alcyonian: Lisa: What's happened? Someone's gotten wind amongst you defending evolution, that you're theistic, so are attacking you for the fact?
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö gremlin, yes. I've known my fair share of those.
     robbssite2001: fundies suck, pat robertson and the like
     karl_von_hess1333: god is mercy yet says "i will not show mercy"...and people wonder why the bible is a joke
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v tinkerbell, if you'll read a post of mine and ignore hers, I shall do that
     robbssite2001: nasty
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v tinkerbell, what was it she said about atheists and God?
     gremlin_net: Lisa: of course, wiccans are really just atheists with moer polyester than brains.
     rev_ether: *listening to bill hicks
     gremlin_net: more*
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:16:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö Jo, tinker got offended at me "Argument from Crafty Atheism", thought I was actually asserting it for real, and has been on the attack ever since.
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö grem. :)
     robbssite2001: wicca is much better than xianity
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö Argument from Crafty Atheism: 1) Atheists say God doesn't exist. 2) Atheists are actually Satanists, even though they deny it. 3) The fact that they lie about God not existing shows this. Satanists lie all the time. 4) Satan believes in God, so Satanists do too. 5) This means atheists do also. 6) Therefore, God exists.
     karl_von_hess1333: fucking sheep is better than christianity
     gremlin_net: robbssite2001: drowning is much better than burning. Whee.
     Alcyonian: Gremlin: I saw this book today, called "Wiccan Web" so I bought it. It's "How to use the internet", Wiccan style.
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v tinkerbell, tinkerbell, now that phrase WAS NOT meant to be taken seriously, IT'S A JOKE FOR ATHEISTS
     robbssite2001: ??
     wiccan_goddess02: /:)
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v HA HA hA
     robbssite2001: gremlin ??
     shadedarksun: and you would know because? sorry i have an annoying habit of taking cheap shots
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:17:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v it's a ridiculous premise that has been used at one time to try and "prove god exists"
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v Lisa KNOWS it's ridiculous
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: iforgot.....i know lisa.....and she is a "SIDELINER" she believes in god but calls everyone a "fundie" when she doesn't even know the meaning herself......she thinks a fundie doesn't take ANY of the bible serious
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v she posted it as a joke
     Alcyonian: Even gives tips for search engines - and when you make friends, you use the cyber spell and invoke them.
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö That's the point. It's ridiculous.
     seelauralee: Lisa are you a Christian?
     runningoutofprofilenames: >:) i am SATAN
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v GOD DAMNIT
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v fuck it
     runningoutofprofilenames: j/k
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v *click*
     rev_ether: not today mate
     karl_von_hess1333: ooo...satan...scary
     karl_von_hess1333: lol
     gremlin_net: Lisa: I nearly invented a new Argument from Idiocy, until I realised I was just mimicking the Aquinas Argument. 1) I believe in deities; 2) I'm not smart enough to think deities up; 3) therefore, deities exist.
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö candice, I'm a fundie Christian. Weren't you listening to tinker? :)
     runningoutofprofilenames: boo
     shadedarksun: again, to judge a people by individual comprising that group of people, one would have to take up arms against Germany, for they will once again invade poland and start yet another world war
     Alcyonian: You're being spammed the same statement over and over?
     rev_ether: *runs over running
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:18:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     Alcyonian: Is that a broken bot?
     seelauralee: Lisa, I am proud of you
     lara3_08: oo. I can't see canned ass this time? GOOD
     Alcyonian: Why am I even pretending to care.
     seelauralee: Satan, cool hat trick in the Buffalo game.
     gremlin_net: Turns out that the most laughable Arguments are actually the most notorious.
     Alcyonian* sighs.
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö I love the ones ondo put into his bot.
     vertical_pig* yawns and stretches
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:19:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     runningoutofprofilenames: thank you thank you very much
     runningoutofprofilenames: =;
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v tinkerbell, she's not trying to convince ANYONE that ANY god exists using that ridiculous argument, if you can't understand that, then remain ignorant, and quit making a big deal about it, she is not a fundie, a bible thumper, or anything of that sort
     vertical_pig* prefers "God is, by definition, perfect; If God didn't exist he wouldn't be perfect; therefore God exists"
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö Pig. :)
     lara3_08: lol
     runningoutofprofilenames* considers investing in mutual funds
     Alcyonian: Hahaha Vert.
     runningoutofprofilenames* knows that the truth is out there
     Alcyonian: Hello again, squinky_bat.
     karl_von_hess1333: any god who "wants"..."needs"..."desires" cant be perfect
     durtyolman2: vertical, you have converted me
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: lisa...is an instigator without a clue....she thinks she is always exempt but is just a SIDELINER moron, she believes in a god who's bible is proven false...but says she doesn't need a bible to show jehovah is real.....so she doesn't even have a pot to piss in...she might as well say she will follow any god because she doesn't even have a bible as proof of jehovah yet says he exists :)) ..he must have direct contact with her then
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:20:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     gremlin_net: Argument from Pascal: 1) Jehovah might exist; 2) if so, believing in it would be a good idea; 3) and, if so, not believing in it would be a bad idea; 4) of course, if Zeus exists, then I could go to hades for failing to believe in Zeus; 5) but, really, what are the odds; 6) therefore, Jehovah exists, because Zeus is silly and hell is scary.
     seelauralee: :@) never cast pearls before vertical pig swine.
     rev_ether: ah.. if one belived that god created the world then he cant be perfect
     durtyolman2: bye bye tinker
     squinky_bat: vertical pig: nice try, but it assumes existence is a property. I can describe every property of King Lear or Homer Simpson, that does not make them exist
     rev_ether: because to be perfect everything one does must be perfect
     paragon_of_narcissism: I think you missed an argument Lisa.
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v Lisa, did you say you don't need a bible to prove Jehovah is real?
     paragon_of_narcissism: I read just about all of them
     lara3_08: wow. such complete humorectomies in the room tonight.
     rev_ether: so either we are perfect or god isnt
     rev_ether: :D
     karl_von_hess1333: if only atheists went to heaven christians would run away from jesus screaming
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:21:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     Alcyonian: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: So she believes in God - she does not FORCE God on anyone in here - what she does is defend evolution. Who she derides is creationists. She combats science. If you can't pull your head out of your ass and notice that.. well, I don't even know you. So fuck off.
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö I didn't say any of the things tinker is trying to put in my mouth.
     vertical_pig: Squinky: I thought it fairly obvious I was speaking in jest
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: so then the moron ..lisa...thinks she can call anyone that refutes the bible...IN A DEBATE ROOM OF ALL THINGS a "fundie" she is a moron, and anyone siding with her is one too
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v lisa, that's what I figured
     allzlozt_1: tinkerbell, quit lying, I'vebeen here a lot and never seen lisa make any clains like that
     Alcyonian: *combats FOR science.
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v there's an EXTREME case of miscommunication here
     durtyolman2: lisa, turn any guy on here down recently ? lol
     gremlin_net: Proving Jehovah to be real would be tricky with or without the bible. But, the scant possibility that deities exist, with or without the bible, possibly remains.
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö grem, is that yours? The Pascal one?
     runningoutofprofilenames: blah blah blah .........................
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v Lisa, will you go out with me?
     karl_von_hess1333: christians are forced to love jesus as hell insurance
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v lol
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:22:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     Alcyonian: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: The ironic thing is, its the atheists in here that are one by one, ignoring you.
     paragon_of_narcissism: I think you might have forgotten the 1)You need faith in order for god to be real 2) You can't have proof to have faith. 3)Therefore god exists.
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v just so you can say yes
     gremlin_net: Lisa: it's Pascal's, originally; but yeah, I modified it into Pascal's Lottery.
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: lisa.....i have heard you debate with others before.....say it to everyone then....do you believe Jehovah is real?...come on
     karl_von_hess1333: jesus is as lovable as a dead racoon
     rev_ether: lol
     lara3_08* can't even see the fundie du jour, so she doesn't get to fight with it. :((
     runningoutofprofilenames* agrees with karl_von_hess1333
     Alcyonian: Oh this one just does not know when to let it go. Fucking ATHEIST FUNDY.
     Alcyonian: click.
     karl_von_hess1333: "love me or burn"...not faith...extortion
     durtyolman2: jo, this one has somekind of other issue with lisa
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: lisa...come on moron...let everyone see where you really stand
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:23:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     gremlin_net: karl_von_hess1333: terrorism, by modern definitions.
     lara3_08: "atheist fundy"? That strikes me as someone who's looking so much for a fight that they're willing to put words in other people's mouths to get it.
     runningoutofprofilenames: burn ,.....? ouch
     lara3_08: poor poor person.
     Alcyonian: Obviously. Having a cow while it's at it. I don't have to watch it though. So I won't.
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v lara, that's it, you nailed it
     allzlozt_1: lara, that about sums it up
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: everyone knows where Lisa really stands. Except, evidently, for you.
     seelauralee: tinkerbell has the grey matter of a gnat.
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö durty. :) I don't know. I get so many PMs from strangers that I just ignore...
     karl_von_hess1333: if i were god i wouldnt need anyones love...i'd be perfect without it
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: gremlin....ok...tell me then...is she a christian?
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:24:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: after a fashion.
     karl_von_hess1333: god sounds like a fat schoolgirl alone on prom night
     runningoutofprofilenames: my but is getting sore, will jesus fix it?
     seelauralee: poor Lisa.
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: gremlin..come on tell me if you know her dumbfuck
     durtyolman2: lisa, no one's buying that dip's comments
     runningoutofprofilenames: dose he like peas?
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: you could save some time by just asking her; she's likely to know at least as much about herself as I do.
     Alcyonian: probably that heathenhellionthing in disguise.
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v the only fucked up part about this that Lisa actually is a christian, just not the christian tinker's trying to make her out to be
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: after a fashion?...what a lame ass answer...yes she is....
     allzlozt_1: lol gremlin
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:25:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     karl_von_hess1333: god controls the highway to hell..and thats why christians fake loving him
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö "after a fashion". I love that phrase. The Minbari in Babylon 5 used it a lot, I noticed.
     seelauralee: Tinkerbell, why the bitch hunt- i mean witch hunt for a fundie- let them come to you.
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: gremlin...hey i know what the bitch is...you say i don't...and you just showed you are the one who doesn't know shit...so stay out fucktard
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: Lisa is a christian, but not a biblicist. That's as simple an answer as I can offer. Sorry if it's still too compex for you.
     durtyolman2: lol lisa, I recall that
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: have it your way, Dummy.
     durtyolman2: afk
     lara3_08: god only seems like a pitiful slacker when you try to cram it into the box of some organized religion or another.
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v LMAO
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:26:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     seelauralee: lol gremlin
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v wow, tinker is fuckin GOINE
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v GONE*
     karl_von_hess1333: if i fake loving god will he fake condemning me to hell?
     karl_von_hess1333: so pathetic
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v it's so far over her head she needs an elevator
     runningoutofprofilenames* is bored by karl_von_hess1333
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v just like "WWEEEEEEEEWWWW"
     runningoutofprofilenames: oops
     Alcyonian* laughs because of iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:27:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     karl_von_hess1333: *** runningoutofprofilenames will be ignored.
     squinky_bat: tinkerbell: you need not to be so polarised in your thinking. Not everyone is a bible-thumper or a christian-thumper
     karl_von_hess1333: <--bored by complainers
     Alcyonian: But Tinker is an atheist-thumper.
     runningoutofprofilenames: what?
     Alcyonian: Damn.
     seelauralee: tinker( i wishiwas athinker) can't even keep the people on her side of the argument from wanting to run away screaming, "IDIOT!"
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: based on my observation, Lisa is a sort of christist, by the same token that satanists are satanists. She's more interested in the characteristics of a potentially real guy than the guy himself. I'm still simplifying; but then, I'm still talking to you; so that's required.
     runningoutofprofilenames: ignored...?
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: maybeline.....lisa.....is calling me an atheist fundie, when she 1) doesn't believe ONE word of the bible and 2) believes Jehovah is real........she sits on the sidelines and debates others in a hit and run method , i know the bitch and she hasn't a thing to debate about but argues anyway calling everyone , even atheists fundies
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:28:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     runningoutofprofilenames* Apologizes to karl_von_hess1333
     durtyolman2: back
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v gremlin, that wasn't simple enough
     squinky_bat: christist? Is that like a mid-life christist, or a terrorist christist?
     karl_von_hess1333: since jesus is imaginary he can be anything you want him to be
     Alcyonian: Candice: Isn't it amazing. Lisa IS a Christian and it's the atheists attacking Tinker. I bet that's crawling through Tinkers panties like a rancid smell.
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v that needs some serious diluting
     hypomaniac07: hi room
     lisa_the_insomniac* <---- non-fundie, liberal, eclectic non-denominational free-thinking scientifically literate non-evolution-denying Christian. There. Have fun with that. Misrepresent me some more.
     runningoutofprofilenames* ducks out of the way
     gremlin_net: Jo: you'd expect an atheistic thumper to blather on with something like 'Believe in Darwin or devolve!!!1' >:)
     hypomaniac07: hi iforgot
     runningoutofprofilenames* stands up and applauds
     durtyolman2: rofl jo !!!!
     runningoutofprofilenames* yells, "For Crying out loud!"
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v hi hypomaniac, who are you?
     seelauralee: I bet it is the first visitor tinker has had in a while, Alcy (smirk)
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:29:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     gremlin_net: iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: probably not. But I'm not putting the effort into sticking to monosyllabic, vernacular words.
     runningoutofprofilenames* frowns in disgust
     demiurge_nt: No one with an understanding of evolution would ever use the term "devolve"
     lara3_08: The sad thing is is that the fundies on the other side look at fundies like tinker and think they're right in hating anyone who isn't like them. (but then they turn around and say that nazis and white power freaks aren't *really* christian - even though they are)
     runningoutofprofilenames* listens attentively
     lara3_08: sick sick sick
     Alcyonian: Oh shit Candice, you make me giggle.
     hypomaniac07: a human being...this might be the most imprecise answer you might get...
     karl_von_hess1333: anyone who claims to be a christian is a christian..there are no other requirements
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: maybaline....i am arguing with the retard lisa..and people that don't even know where she is coming from argue with me....saying i don't know what i am saying...then when i say tell me what she is, they cannot say...what idiots...and of course lisa runs off yet again
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:30:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     salvia_mage: christian is just a word
     robbssite2001: you show me a xian, and i'll show you a hypocrite
     Alcyonian: Oh hell, what is the world coming to.
     lara3_08: I don't equate christian with one who follows the ministry of Jesus of Nazareth.
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö Jehovah is just another name for God. A drifted form of the tetragrammaton, YHVH. Do I believe God exists? Yes. Do I believe the bible accurately describes God? No. Do I believe any single person's image of God does either? No.
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v tinkerbell_is_a_babe: you have the wrong idea about Lisa, honestly, you two should get to know each other, you'd find yourself totally wrong
     robbssite2001: YHVH is translated as master
     lara3_08: Jesus of Nazareth wasn't a christian, wasn't named christ, and didn't try to convert anyone to anything other than what everyone around him already was (jewish)
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: most of we who 'have no idea where she's coming from' have known Lisa for years. Not only do we know where she's coming from; we even know where she's stopped along the way to refil the tank.
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: lisa......jehovah is not another name for god.....it is not some generic name for "god"
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö By the way, I am a single person... So I don't necessarily claim my view of God is accurate either.
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö And I've said so.
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:31:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     Alcyonian: iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: It does not want to. It obviously has some beef against Lisa, or just Christianity in general.
     seelauralee: can't argue with that logic, tinker /:)
     vertical_pig: Lisa is a spinster?
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v I guess so
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö Pig, yes. :(
     allzlozt_1: maybe tinker is one of the rooms xian fundy trolls under a different s/n?
     lara3_08: straight christianity is a cult centered around "the christ figure", which happens, in western society, to be Jesus of Nazareth.
     karl_von_hess1333: i dont think there was a nazareth at the time jesus was suppose to be alive
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö Oops, wrong face. :((
     robbssite2001: 'god' was the only concept that primitive man had to explain all the et's and ufo's they were witnessing
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: lisa...you say that the bible is all false...but say that bible's god is real based on NOTHING...you are a loser in any debate
     Alcyonian: allzlozt_1: Possibly. Lisa is notorious for pissing off Christians.
     durtyolman2: lol lisa
     robbssite2001: 'god' was an alien >-)
     Alcyonian: Lisa is one of them devil women.
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö allzlozt_1, that's a possibility.
     allzlozt_1: lol
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:32:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v to put it in laymen terms, just a joke I have with her, Lisa has "after-life insurance"
     gremlin_net: What a shock. Turns out that tinkerbell_is_a_babe actually has no idea what 'Jehovah' and 'god' actually mean.
     Alcyonian: YHVH.. "Jehovah"
     Alcyonian: Majesties.
     vertical_pig: Yikes
     vertical_pig* is playing with YahELite's setting and doing strange things
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:33:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     robbssite2001: majesties, master, they both are command positions
     robbssite2001: same difference
     gremlin_net: Jehovah is a mistranslation of the YodHehVavHeh, which was the title of the primary biblical deity. God was actually an arcane Assyrian deity no one's really believed in for millennia, whose name was plagiarised fairly recently to represent YodHehVavHeh, possibly because it was monosyllabic and difficult to misspell.
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: lisa...so don't you dare call me an atheist fundie you moron, when you don't even have a bible to read from (the only thing saying jehovah is real, DUH)
     Alcyonian: "Same difference" is a contradiction.
     Alcyonian: Same/Difference.
     Alcyonian* giggles.
     robbssite2001: yes, yes, you know what i mean
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:34:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     lara3_08: hey, I can see more people now :D
     Alcyonian: Of course. *nods*
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: how many times does the word 'jehovah' appear in the bible? Just round to the nearest zero.
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö Heheh... I love it how tinker takes my comment that I don't believe the bible's image of God is accurate, and misquotes it into "you say that the bible is all false".
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: lisa....says she is a christian but her bible isn't true= a total moron
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v from what I've seen Lisa's belief in God is a "just in case" thing, although I do not know her as well as I wouldn't mind to.
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö That, if anything, sums up tinker's main tactic.
     seelauralee: lets pretend she has good syntax, shall we?
     lara3_08: wow. tinker *is* an ass.
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v tinkerbell_is_a_babe: how new are you to the room?
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:35:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     Alcyonian: Umm I have known Lisa... shit Lisa.. 2 years.
     Alcyonian: Hmmm yup.
     gremlin_net: iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: the UPS guy is still walking back to the truck, having dropped her off.
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: lisa...you are an idiot.....you say you are a christian but don't believe one thing the bible says........you should just be an agnostic then moron
     vertical_pig: Tinkerbell: Most Christians do not regard the Bible as literally true
     Alcyonian: I miss the Evo room :(
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v I don't "know" lisa, although we recognize each other
     durtyolman2: lisa's belief is close to mine actually, although I would nto call mine a"god" because that infers consciousness
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:36:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: everyone's agnostic, Dummy. No one *knows* whether deities exist. Theists just believe that they do.
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere, no. It's not a "just in case" thing. I don't believe in hell. So I don't follow Pascal's Lottery. :) I believe God exists because that's what makes sense to me. I just don't claim anyone ELSE must believe it.
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: vertical....yes i know...but lisa, has stated before that the WHOLE bible is false
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: really? When?
     lara3_08: guys, tinkerbell is an it doesn't give a rat's ass what anyone has to say. she's found a bone and she's going to rag it into splinters.
     lara3_08: (he/she/it, whatever)
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v Lisa, I apologize... you never really corrected me before
     seelauralee: tinkerbell's brain has entered the room yet, so technically she is very new to the room- ihaveforgothowmanylettersfitinhere
     Alcyonian: Agreed, Lara.
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:37:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     seelauralee: has not
     durtyolman2: something outside of us, outside our "reality" exists, but who can guess what it is
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö tinker, you moron. I AM an agnostic.
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö An agnostic Christian.
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö Just as some in here are agnostic atheists.
     seelauralee: argh
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: vertical....so she plays a head game with me..arguing for her god but saying she doesn't belive the bible at all, so she thinks she is EXEMPT and will always win a debate...she is nothing but a loser, SIDELINER
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v DAH!!!!
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v lol
     lara3_08: tink: then stop talking to her. there are 38 other people in here.
     karl_von_hess1333: Nazareth is not included among the 45 cities of the Galilee that were mentioned by Joseph's, and It's name is missing from the 63 towns in Galilee mentioned in the Talmud.
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: when did Lisa claim that 'the WHOLE bible was false'? Given your novelty, it's a good bet that I've been loguing the chatroom longer, tonight, than you've known that it existed; if you lie, I'll know.
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: maybeline.....i am not new and i know lisa moron
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:38:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     seelauralee: sigh
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v Lisa, please accept my apology, please? I don't want you to be hostile with me
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: Strike One. Try again.
     adkoths: hi
     durtyolman2: off to work, and dream of my new puter
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v Lisa ignored me :(
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: gremlin...when i debated with her 3 days ago.....and that is why i usually don't chat with her.,...she doesn't have any ground but thinks she can argue with anyone else
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:39:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     durtyolman2: bye lisa :)
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö You know Lisa is a moron, just like you know Lisa believes "the whole bible is false", and the other lies you convince yourself of.
     seelauralee: Lisa, I suppose tinkerbell knows what colour your panties are too. She knows everything. She knows you!
     durtyolman2: later everyone !
     robbssite2001: seeya durty
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere, don't be silly. :D
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: three days ago being Saturday? What time?
     lara3_08: tink: so why still talk to her?
     seelauralee: Stinkerbell
     lara3_08: As long as you're still ragging on your Lisa-bone, we'll know you don't have anything productive to add to the conversation.
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v ok... phew:((
     lara3_08: You're just a simp who needs to feel important.
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: gremlin....ask her...she started arguing with me, and staretd calling me an atheist fundie...because she said i am debating with the bible...so she thinks she has the upper hand,
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:40:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: according to her, your deplorable strawman is totally fabricated. Should I still take her at her word?
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö I never claimed the WHOLE bible is false. I am the one arguing with both Christian fundies and atheist fundies who have the false dichotomy that the bible MUST be 100% literally true OR 100% false. The two groups usually have the same zeal in arguing this.
     kerrymadkins: Iwanna be the simp!
     lara3_08: lol
     squinky_bat: tinkerbell: but you ARE an atheist fundie...
     Alcyonian*
     Alcyonian* Female
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v squinky, lol
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:41:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö candice, eeep, tinker sees my panties? Damn, the store told me there were no secret cameras on this thing.
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: grmlin...i asked her then...well what parts of the bible do you deem to be true..and she said NONE...to make herself exempt...but says at the same toekn she knows Jehovahs is real...and stupid SIDELINER...thinks she can sit on the sides and win by making herself exempt
     gremlin_net: At least tinkerbell_is_a_babe serves a technical purpose. Thanks to it, we atheists can now empathise with Lisa when she encounters the retarded, trolling, fundytheists.
     squinky_bat: lisa. Next time, don't buy the panties with the optional PantyCam5000
     kerrymadkins: can she write that off on her taxes?
     seelauralee: The OUTSIDE the box - tinkerbell. Lisa can be a christian and not claim the whole bible is constitutes absolute truth! Fuck!
     lara3_08: tink: then why don't you try taking on someone who isn't "sitting on the sidelines making themselves exempt"?
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:42:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: what, like an agnostic?
     seelauralee: what a dumbass
     kerrymadkins: that's a drink with cream
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: gremlin....i didn't get pisded til she satrted saying i was an atheist fundie and thinking she was smarter by thinking she is exempt from debate
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö gremlin, yes. Empathy is a good thing. Even when it's about something as idiotic as fanatics in "our own camp".
     seelauralee: oops extract "is"
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:43:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     lara3_08: hm. I think lisa is smarter because she can spell, but that's just me.
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö lara. :)
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v pisded? I'm assuming she graduated from "Gollum's school of English" too
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: so far, you're fitting the criteria for 'atheist fundy'. Which is impressive, since I'd never known that was actually possible before now.
     seelauralee: She is smarter.
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: maybeline....read my text idiot...she said ALL the bible was false...what christians says that?...NONE
     lara3_08: lol
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö I just woke up two hours ago. My spelling degrades when I'm tired.
     gremlin_net: Lisa: this isn't precisely my camp. I'm not dumb enough to claim which percentage of deities are true and false.
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:44:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v tinkerbell_is_a_babe: HOW ARE PEOPLE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO READ YOU TEXT WHEN IT ISN"T COHERENT
     kerrymadkins: 53.34 % are true and false
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö gremlin, I'm not stupid enough to claim which science is true and false, depending on what the bible says... so we're even. :)
     lara3_08: I bet I could incur its wrath by claiming my own religion. If christianity is stupid, wicca has to be even more stupid, right?
     lara3_08: :D
     seelauralee: I never met a atheist fundie before tinkerbell. It makes for great entertainment.
     karl_von_hess1333: whats a "fundy atheist" anyway?
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v damn, I'm wasting my batteries in my keyboard trying to type in bigger letters so that this troll might read and understand, screw this...
     kerrymadkins: stupid is as stupid does
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: gremlin.....yeah right...you clearly don't know what a fundie is...and FYI......if the bitch lisa takes NONE of the bible as fact..why does she argue with me about it then?
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:45:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö But I still get lumped in (in general) with the fundie Christians. Unfortunately. :P Although most intelligent people realize there are fanatics anywhere.
     lara3_08: thanks forrest
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: here's the problem. Lisa has been here for years, and has never made the ludicrous claim that the WHOLE bible is false; few atheists are dumb enough to claim that. You, on the other hand, have been here, evidently, for all of twenty minutes, made fantastic claims about her, and failed to get her concession. I'm not into believing in things, but if I had to, I'd be more likely to take her word on the matter than yours.
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:46:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö Please quote me saying I take NONE of the bible as fact?
     karl_von_hess1333: the bible claims there are pyrimids..and there are pyrimids...one right for the bible
     lisa_the_insomniac* knows she'll be waiting a long time.
     lara3_08: fundamentalism: a movement or attitude stressing strict and literal adherence to a set of basic principles. If you're screaming at people because they don't think like you, tink, you're a fundie.
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v lisa, no you won't, she'll just fabricate a quote
     lara3_08: That's what "fundamentalist" means.
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:47:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö karl, the bible also claims there are mountains and stars and snakes and people. Hey, there are! :)
     karl_von_hess1333: if atheism is correct...being a fundamentalist atheist wouldnt seem to be a vice
     gremlin_net: I regard the bible as badly-written fiction; still, I get that elements of it, here and there, are factually true.
     kerrymadkins: quotes are like a box of chocolates...some really suck...especially the ones with the fruit filling.
     vertical_pig: Actually snakes are a figment of the imagination :)
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v like, for instance, the existence of Egypt
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö Now if either of us believed the false dichotomy that the bible must be 100% right or 100% wrong, that means the bible is 100% right! :) Oops, wait, it also says pi = 3, and bats are birds. So it's 100% right AND 100% wrong.
     lara3_08: karl: yeah, I can buy that
     itsmeman77: am seeking a svelte woman who wants to be fed, wed n bred
     gremlin_net: Claiming that the WHOLE bible is false is like claiming that ALL dogs are gay. It's just silly.
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:48:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     lisa_the_insomniac* beats down a snake with the goose.
     seelauralee: Hypothetically, Even if Lisa misappropriated her words. She is obviously not cooberrating your inane story, "tinkerbell" - (not exactly a chat name that screams respect). In any rate, I agree with Gremlin to vote you off the island.
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: gremlin......a fundie doesn't say ALL of the bible is false...and lisa calls me a fundie because i use the bible...but i do not use the fundie supporting parts, like mythical creatures...but just where does fundie and real christian fit in?...seems whenever something isproven false in the bible then ...oh well you have to be a funbdie to believe that....what a joke.....the bible is nothing but a joke book and even i say it is all false,,,then the moron lisa (who says the bible is all false argues the point :))
     kerrymadkins: only taco bell dogs are gay.
     karl_von_hess1333: fundamentalist christians arent obnoxious because they are fundamentalist but because they are christians
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: a fundy doesn't claim that, and neither does Lisa, mutually exclusive as those are.
     squinky_bat: karl: any fundamentalist position is a vice, because it presupposes refusal to think in any way other than the notionally proscribed one
     lara3_08: Wait, wait wait. Tink, did you miss that you're not getting called a christian?
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: lol karl
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:49:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö All dogs ARE gay. They just have hetero sex out of duty.
     seelauralee: the bible is not a "joke" book, tinkerbell
     karl_von_hess1333: if atheism is correct why wouldnt that imply a refusal to think some other way?
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v seel, LOL
     squinky_bat: That's true lisa, they do wear those spiked leather collars after all
     seelauralee: someone please break out the smelling salt.
     reptylinin_com: This conversation makes me want to bash my head in, fill it with Cocaine and snort myself to death.
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v nor is it "all false" the existence of animals on the earth proves that
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: gremlin...really?...you were already wrong on lisa before...now educate me again..on lisa nd what a fundie is ..come on
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö It's ironic. tinker can see "the bible is a joke book", but can't see my "Argument from Crafty Atheism" as a joke.
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:50:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     Alcyonian: Adam, why not just stare sightlessly at the wall.
     lara3_08: Wait a second, okay... Tink is mad because lisa says that not all of the bible is true, but tink just said itself that it believes that not all of the bible is true. Does anyone else have a migraine now?
     Alcyonian* is doing that.
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: like an idiot, I just went back and finished reading your blathering. Let's address the one line in your idiotic statement for a moment. 'the bible is nothing but a joke book and even I say it is all false'. Is that your final answer?
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v Lisa, LMAO
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö Hmm... You know... tinker kinda sounds like an old OLD troll. clodfish.
     lara3_08: grem :)
     lara3_08: ]got it
     reptylinin_com: Jo, that would involve me staying still and focusing on some one thing. I hate doing that.
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: lisa...because you are a moron, and use both sides of the debate...maybe you should stop being two faced
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v "Is that you final answer?" <----- OMG LOL
     squinky_bat: The bible's a joke book? Where are the punchlines?
     lisa_the_insomniac* laughs.
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:51:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     karl_von_hess1333: we are the punchlines
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v no, SHE is the pounchline
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v punch*
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: I'll take it as read that you've miracuously read through the entire bible. Presuming that, are you absolutely, positively, utterly certain that the WHOLE bible is, in fact, false? Yes or no will do.
     lara3_08: Yeah lisa! You should stop thinking three moves ahead of tink because it can't handle it! X-( :)
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v or is SHE the butt?
     kerrymadkins: the people waiting for the wine are in the punch lines.
     seelauralee: tinkerbell- educating you again is like placing a lobotomized cerebellum in a jar and attatching automotive spark plugs hooked up to a respirator.
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö Two faced about what? Because I'm honest enough to accept that evolutionary biology is good science, and evolution is an observed fact? Because I'm honest enough to point out that it doesn't conflict with faith in God? Yes, bad me for being honest, err, two-faced.
     morbid_female_ring_wraith: e what did the five fingers say to the face?.....*SLAP!!*.....im rick james bitch
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:52:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: gremlin...apparently stupid, you left out half of the statement.....that lisa says it is also false but argues for it
     gremlin_net: Lisa: honesty, being roughly as rare as intelligence, which is already evil, is probably just as evil to lying morons.
     karl_von_hess1333: poor rick james...still a joke after all relevency is gone
     lara3_08: tink: grem's only talking about *your* statement.
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v gremlin, now she's attacking you
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: try again. Yes or no: the WHOLE bible is false.
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: maybeline......amaze me with your intellect seeing as i have an IQ of 160
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:53:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     lara3_08: 160
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v tinker, you didn't.......
     lara3_08: and an age of what? 12
     karl_von_hess1333: 160 out of 1000
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere* looks again
     vertical_pig* knows that all claimed IQs in chat should be halved
     gremlin_net: iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: and I care nearly as much as I care about the bacteria I ingested an hour ago at the restaurant.
     Alcyonian: I had to see what all the one way dialogue was about and get a two way feed.
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v you did..........
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: gremlin.....yawn...YES...now get to your point
     lara3_08: sorry, I'm laughing so loud I woke my son up. gtg
     lara3_08: bbl
     Alcyonian: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: Everyone on the internet has an astronomical I.Q. Gremlin squashed that when he queried you on the hebric/assyrian terminology of God.
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:54:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: 160? In what, dog points? I have some serious doubts that I only beat you by twenty-five percent. Yes or no: the WHOLE bible is false.
     karl_von_hess1333: all babies should awaken to the sound of laughter
     Alcyonian: Gremlin: You ate bacteria?
     kerrymadkins: Amen to that Karl
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v karl, was that in reference to the room?
     vertical_pig* wonders how a knowledge of hebric/assyrian terminology of God is an indication of IQ
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö Honesty and Intelligence. Stomp them out now! This has been a public service announcement from the Ministry of Religious and Secular Fundamentalism.
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: yes? The WHOLE bible is false? Fascinating. You will now provide evidence disproving Ecclesiastes 9.10.
     seelauralee: 6 o'cock am- AVC ceases to be Atheist vs. Christians: 1 and regresses into Save the Brain Foundation for Tinkerbell: 1
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:55:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö tink actually claimed an IQ of 160. LOL
     karl_von_hess1333: no..i was just playing the sensitive card
     Alcyonian: Vert: Well it eliminates theology as part of General Knowledge.
     gremlin_net: Jo: I ate food. By implication, I ate bacteria.
     seelauralee: rotflmao Lisa
     Alcyonian: Also it didn't fair to well on evolution, that eliminates Biology.
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v tinker, I'll help you out, by quoting as follows...
     vertical_pig* wasn't aware that IQ tests went into biological and theological knowledge
     seelauralee: that is 1 + 6 + O = a 16iq, Lise.
     Alcyonian: It's lacking in interactive social comprehension, that takes out social PSYCHOLOGY.
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:56:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     gremlin_net: seelauralee: 1+6+0 is seven.
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: gremlin....i answered you....YES it is all false pertaining to god and jesus.....and i am not stupid, so don't play that...well Isreal is real dumbass shit on me.....you have half a brain for even going there
     vertical_pig: IQ isn't general knowledge
     seelauralee: oops
     seelauralee: lmao
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö Candice, ah, I see. Hebrew numerology. I didn't know tink was smart enough for that.
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: right. What makes Ecclesiastes 9.10 false?
     Alcyonian: Vert: The Binet test I took was.
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: Ecclesiastes 9.10 is in the bible, by the way.
     silkside2003: wb playing
     seelauralee: :">
     Alcyonian: Vert: The Binet test I had (standard) was general knowledge, mathematics, and visual comprehension.
     playing_in_the_snakepit_20000: hey silk
     silkside2003: smile
     seelauralee: I am new at mocking, be gentle.
     playing_in_the_snakepit_20000: had to go out, for a bit
     karl_von_hess1333: i think its safe to assume than not all of the bible is false
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:57:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     seelauralee: brb
     Alcyonian: I can believe a 160 if it were Emode.
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v tinkerbell: PSSSSSST *HINT* Ecc 9:10 Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest.
     silkside2003: whats the night like playing
     kerrymadkins: only the false witness part
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: gremlin......i answered you...now you answer me....what is lisa, and what is an fundie...come on...i have been waiting many posts for your dumbass reply
     vertical_pig* wonders why he enjoys shampoo adverts so much :)
     playing_in_the_snakepit_20000: its raining
     playing_in_the_snakepit_20000: cool
     silkside2003: nice
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: gremlin..and instead you dodge the question
     playing_in_the_snakepit_20000: am eating a cake
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: you haven't yet told me what part of Ecclesiastes 9.10 is false, Troll.
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:58:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     karl_von_hess1333: "findeth" doesnt sound right
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: maybeline..and you haven't said anything smart yet either
     silkside2003: ic, you look after yourself*
     gremlin_net: karl_von_hess1333: Victorian English. Viable, if outdated.
     vertical_pig* yawns
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: gremilin....i gave you an answer, now you answer me before i go on
     vertical_pig* waves farewell and wanders off
     seelauralee: I didn't want to make you look bad, tinkerbell
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö The funny thing is, Christian fundies like playing are probably sitting there with popcorn, watching this whole exchange and smirking, going "stupid atheists... well done tinker for showing us this..."
     karl_von_hess1333: yeah...jesus was an elizabethan
     Alcyonian: King James was.
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:59:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     karl_von_hess1333: him too
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: do you need someone to translate Ecclesiastes 9.10 into Imbecilese for you, or can you grok the basics from English?
     kerrymadkins: mine is too salty
     Alcyonian: *nods*
     squinky_bat: Victorian... elizabethan please. The Victorians were all 'crivens' and 'behooves'
     seelauralee: I s that a rhetorical question, gremlin?
     karl_von_hess1333: "if i findeth you...i'll smiteth you"
     Alcyonian: Elizabethan was sonnets, with "hast thou"
     karl_von_hess1333: jesus talked like that
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: maybeline...trust me you will only make yourself look bad....so answer if you are an atheist or christian then
     gremlin_net: seelauralee: actually, no; I'm oddly curious to know how dumb the little SpEd really is.
     seelauralee: I am a Roman Catholic
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:00:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     Alcyonian: Jacobean was a combination with a tendency for the graphic.
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v tinkerbell, Ecclesiastes 9:10 has nothing to do with God or Jesus, except that it is in the same book with quotes that do, the answer you gave sucks, and certainly wouldn't win $100 in Jeopardy
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö Yes, Jesus spoke Ye Olde Englishe. That's why the King James is the only valid bible.
     playing_in_the_snakepit_20000: in the movie The Passion of the Christ, they use the langauge of the day, for Jesus and the jews
     playing_in_the_snakepit_20000: was a mixture of latin and greek
     silkside2003: lol Lisa
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö candice, you are? I didn't know that.
     karl_von_hess1333: "wilst i fineth a fair maiden under yonder tree"?
     karl_von_hess1333: thats very nazarean
     playing_in_the_snakepit_20000: i think
     playing_in_the_snakepit_20000: ?
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: gremlin...dodging my original question a second time i see, huh?...too stupid to answer me since i answered you?
     Alcyonian: Reboot.
     Alcyonian*
     seelauralee: Do not tread upon the verge of a bottomless abyss without a bungee suit, Gremlin.
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:01:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     gremlin_net: iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: immaterial. My question, as stated, was 'the WHOLE bible is false; yes or no'. It wasn't qualified beyond 'WHOLE'. If the SpEd lied to me when it confirmed that the WHOLE bible was false, that's its own lookout.
     squinky_bat: Well everyone knows god is English. That's why all you Americans are damned in perpetuity for going against God's own emissary on earth - King George III
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: you didn't answer me. Which part of Ecclesiastes 9.10 is false?
     lisa_the_insomniac* wonders what Jo will look like after tapping her icon and going "ReBoot!"
     karl_von_hess1333: if god is english why are all the chefs in hell english?
     lisa_the_insomniac* . o O ( I miss that show. )
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:02:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: maybeline...yeah figures.....okay let me ask you then since you are so smart.......name one christian that doesn't believe any of the bible as fact
     playing_in_the_snakepit_20000: the conversation is getting a little uninteresting
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: hey, Troll--download an attentionspan. Which part of Ecclesiastes 9.10 is false?
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö tink's still sticking to that strawman of me, huh? That I said "none of the bible is fact"... LOL
     seelauralee: That was one for Mensa- Logical puzzle...Too stupid to answer me since I answered you? ---And you were supposed to be insulted Gremlin or yourself? I am confused tinkerbell.
     squinky_bat: Proves my point. To believe in the one true god you have to suffer, and what better way of suffering than eating twice-boiled pizza
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:03:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     karl_von_hess1333: ewww
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v The Mormons think that Jesus visited the Native Americans, but that's about as close to reality as this goes
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: gremlin...and FYI.....you saying that i must disprove anything in the bible shows you don't agree with lisa's opinion idiot...since she said ALL of the bible was false....try her first dumbass :))
     seelauralee: insulted= insulting
     gremlin_net: Lisa: better yet, it claimed that the WHOLE bible was false. It has yet to disprove Ecclesiastes 9.10, though. It must have been lying again.
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö Yes, again. It's been lying the last few hours.
     playing_in_the_snakepit_20000: well, people get off on being intelligent. lol......seriously, when you are the victim of terrorism or some other calamity,......intelligence doesnt guarantee your survival
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: I never saw Lisa claim that the WHOLE bible was false; I only saw you claim that. You will now provide evidence disproving Ecclesiastes 9.10.
     kerrymadkins: r your pants on fire?
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö And probably the last time it attacked me, although I don't recall it offhand. The conflict must have made more of an impression on tinker than on me.
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:04:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     seelauralee: Insult by tinkerbell= "Too stupid to answer me, since I answered you?"
     karl_von_hess1333: intelligence is no hinderance to survival however
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö Although I do have a bad memory, admittedly.
     seelauralee: 8-}
     playing_in_the_snakepit_20000: better to acknowledge that you are just a child of the universe, and a visitor here......than think that you are somehow some intellectual icon, that desrves attention
     somersetcase1* Male 38 from Somerset
     playing_in_the_snakepit_20000: at the end of the day, you die the same way
     kerrymadkins: stop posting pics of my gf!
     playing_in_the_snakepit_20000: you go to the same place
     gremlin_net: Lisa: I haven't got a bad memory. If I'd seen you claim anything that stupid, it would have stuck with me. And I'd have sued you for mental anguish >:)
     playing_in_the_snakepit_20000: your intelligemce will be for not hing
     playing_in_the_snakepit_20000: nothing
     karl_von_hess1333: i'd rather be a intellectual icon than some inbred christian plowboy
     silkside2003: hmm playing, you writing more poetry
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: maybeline.....that was not an unintelligent statement idiot....i asked him a question that he keeps dodging, i answered his first question and won't keep playing his games unless he starts to answer me ......now stop dodging arouind yourself dumbass
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:05:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: not evidence; Strike One.
     playing_in_the_snakepit_20000: better to be humble, and enjoy life, than to be arrogantly intelligent, and think that life owes you something
     playing_in_the_snakepit_20000: lol silky, naaaah, just letting off steam, lol
     somersetcase1: All we are is dust in the wind...dust...in the wind...everythingis dust in the wind...LOL
     playing_in_the_snakepit_20000: hehe somers, aha
     silkside2003: smile
     karl_von_hess1333: intelligence is by definition arrogance
     playing_in_the_snakepit_20000: lol
     playing_in_the_snakepit_20000: smiles
     kerrymadkins: Only if I say so.
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:06:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     gremlin_net: karl_von_hess1333: not intentionally.
     karl_von_hess1333: no...not intentionally...but by implication
     playing_in_the_snakepit_20000: no, i like intelligent people......it is only when they start comparing their intelligent with the rest of us, that they start to become a complete bore
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö Intelligence can lead to arrogance. So can many other traits.
     squinky_bat: I intend on leaving a rich corpus of brilliant works for posterity and leaving me a literary immortal. Now, for that first novel... "It was a dark and stormy night"
     playing_in_the_snakepit_20000: intelligence^
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: gremlin.....strike on yourself....since you couldn't answer my two earlier questions...hey since LISA your fellow bitch said the whole bible was false....ask her to do it :))
     gremlin_net: karl_von_hess1333: intellect allows for arrogance. I'm not sure it mandates it.
     playing_in_the_snakepit_20000: loves intelligence......
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: not evidence; Strike Two.
     playing_in_the_snakepit_20000: though
     seelauralee: Listen you little self- proclaimed dominatrix information snipping chat whore. I have to go do some work. Fuck you and your dsylexia, stinkerbell
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v tinker, could you repeat the "intelligent question" so that I might be able to help him out?
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö Arrogance is a subjective value judgement, though. Someone with less of a trait can accuse someone with more of it of being "arrogant" just because they ARE better.
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:07:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     playing_in_the_snakepit_20000: maybeline is your prime example
     playing_in_the_snakepit_20000: an idiiot pretending to be intelligent
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö tink is still sticking to its lie that I said the whole bible is false. :)
     gremlin_net: iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: don't encourage the troll to beg questions.
     playing_in_the_snakepit_20000: hahahahaha
     playing_in_the_snakepit_20000: oops, that was uncalled for
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v gremlin, It's gonna be ignored anyway, what's the big deal?
     playing_in_the_snakepit_20000: but deserved nevertheless
     seelauralee: playing b-(
     squinky_bat: Yes playing, whereas I am an idiot pretending to be an even bigger idiot
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: gremlin...i won't keep playing your games for when i keep proving you wrong..you just keep bringing up another game...and still dodge my 2 questions long ago idiot
     somersetcase1: Yeah, but that's not intelligence playing..That's "wannabe intelligence." ;-)
     playing_in_the_snakepit_20000: hehehe squinky
     playing_in_the_snakepit_20000: lol somers
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:08:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     seelauralee: somerset b-(
     karl_von_hess1333: intelligence implies a lack of egalitarianism
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: not evidence; Strike Three. You're now a known troll. No one will ever take anything you say seriously in this room again. You got the negative attention you worship, but you're cut off now. Go evolve somewhere else.
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö playing doesn't like candice? Didn't they used to get along okay? Did you say something intelligent, candice, and playing got angry at you?
     gremlin_net: iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: no big deal after all, it seems.
     karl_von_hess1333: gremlin has made me hate tinker
     karl_von_hess1333: i'm easy that way
     seelauralee: brb- where will she evolve, Gremlin?
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:09:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     playing_in_the_snakepit_20000: no, intelligent people are a joy to be around. They enlighten you, on so many things. I just cant bear to be around an intelligent person, who thinks that the rest of us, need to lick their sorry butts
     silkside2003: lmao
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: maybeline...here i will just make my debate with you fats since you won't answer my original question either since you like to dodge questions like gremlin does.......give ONE PROOF of your god ...you cannot loser :))
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö Candice, the Christian Chat rooms? :)
     gremlin_net: seelauralee: Not in My Backyard.
     somersetcase1: You wpuld think that intelligence would ground a person in the fundemental truth that we are really pretty insignificent in the "grand scheme of things."
     somersetcase1: would rather
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö tink can go trolling there. Lots of people to jump on its silly lies and fallacies.
     seelauralee: The only fats I got is your daddy's penis up my dogs ass, TINKERBELL
     playing_in_the_snakepit_20000: claps for el hebway
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: gremlin.....you lost long ago...and have also proven you are against lisa for saying all the bible is false :))
     karl_von_hess1333: i wouldnt connect intelligence with a predisposition to insignificance
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:10:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     gremlin_net: Lisa: it had better hurry; by tomorrow night, even the christian rooms will have heard that tinkerbell_is_a_babe is a troll.
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: gremlin.....YOU FUCKING IDIOT...YOU JUST WENT AGAINST LISA :))
     somersetcase1: perhaps not a connection.
     karl_von_hess1333: i dont think einstein concidered himself insignificant...or darwin..or newton
     playing_in_the_snakepit_20000: el helbawy, what are you singing?????
     kerrymadkins: I connect intelligence to those who make their point by not labeling anyone.
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: MAYBELINE...WELL YOU JUST SHOWED YOUR DEAD GOD ISN'T REAL :))
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö grem, then it changes names... No big deal to trolls.
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:11:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     karl_von_hess1333: kerry..you just labeled intelligent people
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: MAYBELINE..YOU DON'T HAVE ONE PROOF OF YOUR FAKE DUMBASS FUCKING MORON GOD :))
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v *click*
     seelauralee: lisa, fix it- i have to go...
     kerrymadkins: didn't say I was intelligent
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö Candice? Fix what?
     karl_von_hess1333: lol
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v I can't take anymore of this, she is making all of us look bad
     gremlin_net: Lisa: names are immaterial, really. Its lack of writing style is pretty specific. Besides, it'll take at least a week to think up a whole new username.
     karl_von_hess1333: well said
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v SHE is why christians hate us
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: MAYBELINE...YOUR GOD SUCKS MY COCK :))
     squinky_bat: Newton certainly thought himself significant. He had a real superiority complex
     somersetcase1: karl, context...context..I bet if you asked any of those men how they viewed themselves with regards to the seemingly endless expance of existance, they would probably tell you not too high.
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö I see tink devolved to all caps.
     karl_von_hess1333: newton was overbearing from what i read
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:12:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     lisa_the_insomniac* is going to stop paying attention to it.
     somersetcase1: lol..well..okay
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: LISA....SINCE YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN THAT DOESN'T BELIEVE THE BIBLE...MAYBE YOU SHOULD JUST CRAM IT UP YOU ASS :))
     gremlin_net: Lisa: you want something really funny, presuming your ignored tinkerbell_is_a_troll long ago? Toward the end, it started pretending that I was theistic. How's that for irony?
     gremlin_net: you*
     karl_von_hess1333: the endless expance of existance should make me feel insignificant.?..whats so significant about the expance of existance?
     wickedkreations: hello room
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: LISA.......DEVOLVED INTO CAPS.....HOW STUPIDLY UNORIGINAL
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö gremlin_net, it makes up strawmen for EVERYONE. :)
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:13:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     karl_von_hess1333: if existance was half as expansive how should i relate to it?
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v *** tinkerbell_is_a_babe will be ignored for 9999 days.
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v just once
     kerrymadkins: if tinkerbell is a babe..where is her pic?
     gremlin_net: Lisa: I'm arbitrarily giving the SpEd a seventy percent probability of being a wiccan with a history of sexual abuse from an uncle. It just follows somehow.
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: LISA...HEY GUESS WHAT...NOW SINCE YOU SAY YOUR BIBLE IS FALSE.....YOU CAN'T EVEN USE THAT AS PROOF...YOU ARE TOTALLY CLUELESS :))
     karl_von_hess1333: my self worth has nothing to do with the size of the universe unless i'm missing something
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö It presumed you were theistic for not agreeing with it that "the bible is 100% false". And claimed you disagreed with ME because of its strawman that I said it's 100% false too.
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:14:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     wickedkreations: hello room
     gremlin_net: Lisa: pretty much.
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: LISA, HASN'T GOT ON PROOF OF HER FALSE GOD :))
     somersetcase1: karl, let me put it this way.....will existance go on with out you? Will you go on without existance? It's not your self worth in context of your life, or your relationships, or whatever, but simply compared to existance its self.
     karl_von_hess1333: i am the universe as far as i can see...the universe ceases to exist for me when i cease to be in it
     wickedkreations: any believers of a more darker side of life in here??
     gremlin_net: Even Alice in Wonderland is less than 100% false: it mentions the fact that England exists.
     kerrymadkins: If he doesn't exist, how can he be false?
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: LISA = DEBATE LOSER RIGHT OFF FROM THE START :))
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:15:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     gremlin_net: The iliad is less than 100% false: Crete exists.
     karl_von_hess1333: alice mentioned rabbit holes also..which i think is correct
     karl_von_hess1333: tree rabbits being rare
     gremlin_net: Star Wars is less than 100% false: space exists.
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:16:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö Edgar Rice Burroughs' Barsoom novels are less than 100% false. Mars exists. :)
     somersetcase1: face it karl, you and I and everyone else are dots on a dot in and endless sea od reality. You want to pretend that make you somehow significant (in relation to that fact) then go ahead.
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: LISA...IF YOU HAD HALF A BRAIN YOU WOULD KNOW THE BIBLE IS NOT 100% FALSE MORON.....THAT IS WHAT GREMLIN WAS ARGUING...MAYBE YOU TWO SHOULD DEBATE ...LOL
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_troll is potentially 100% false. I can't argue against that one.
     karl_von_hess1333: there is no universe without me in it for all intent and purpose
     somersetcase1: karl, sematical nonsense
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: LISA...ESPECIALLY SINCE LAST TIME I SAY YOU , YOU SAID THE BIBLE WAS 100% FALSE :))
     wickedkreations: tinkerbell, u of any religion???
     somersetcase1: semntical..damn I can't type
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:17:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö Well, tinker did say that my "Argument from Crafty Atheism" isn't true... So it's not 100% false. However, it was wrong for assuming I was asserting it WAS true.
     gremlin_net: wickedkreations: tinkerbell_is_a_troll offers itself nightly to the Almighty Braineaters.
     karl_von_hess1333: its only nonsense if you dont get it which doesnt upset me as much as it should..somer
     kerrymadkins: Green Acres is a damn good show this time in the morning.
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: GREMLIN......BOY YOU JUST KEEP GETTING HIT BY THE STUPID STICK...NOW YOU SAY THE BIBLE IS 100% FALSE...EVEN I CAN PROVE THAT IS NOT TRUE :))
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:18:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     gremlin_net: Lisa: so the hypothesis is that a particularly retarded troll mistook an Argument-from gag as a vaild assertion? I could see that happening. In fact, I have.
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: GREMLIN...SINCE YOU HIDE FROM A DEBATE WITH LISA :))
     somersetcase1: karl, oh, I get it...You are saying that from your perspective the universe doesn't exist without you..Who cares about "your" perspective though, other then you? Again, if you want to pretend that you are somehow of grand significance in the context of that which exists around you, then by all means, go right ahead.
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_troll: I never said that the bible was 100% false, you lying troll.
     karl_von_hess1333: whose perspective should i care about if not mine..somer?
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:19:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     squinky_bat: < sprinkles troll food in another room
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö grem, now it completely flipflopped its own statements to you earlier, and claim YOU flip flopped: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: GREMLIN......BOY YOU JUST KEEP GETTING HIT BY THE STUPID STICK...NOW YOU SAY THE BIBLE IS 100% FALSE...EVEN I CAN PROVE THAT IS NOT TRUE
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: GREMLIN...I CAN SHOW YOU THOUSANDS OF SCIENTIFIC PROOFS AND EVEN THE BIBLE AGAINST ITSELF.....BUT SEE LISA ON THE OTHER HAND IS EXEMPT...SHE SAYS EVOLUTION IS A FACT AND THE BIBLE IS FALSE, BUT CALLS HERSELF A CHRISTIAN...SO YOU AGREE WITH HER HUH? :))
     karl_von_hess1333: name a more valid perspective to me than mine..somer..and what would make it more valid
     kerrymadkins: I agree with her...she is correct.
     gremlin_net: Lisa: yup. I haven't physcially ignored the SpEd; just mentally, for the most part. Like I'd pass up the opportunity to record its idiocy for http://gremlin.net >:)
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:20:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     wickedkreations: dont u all have anything better to do than argue if the bible is full of truth or lies??
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: GREMLIN.....YOU JUST PROVED YOU ARE AGAINST LISA...YOU FUCKING DUMBASS MORON
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö grem, yes, that's what started this whole thing tonight, tink flipping out at me for "speaking for atheists" after my "therefore god exists" gag. Although it claims we clashed three days ago. Which may be possible. So many idiots attack me.
     karl_von_hess1333: butch...the room title sorta implies that
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_babe: not according to fact, you schizophrenic troll.
     kerrymadkins: when I came into the room...i was looking for a football game...
     wickedkreations: i understand the room name title kinda explains it, but i see noone backing up thier theries here
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:21:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     squinky_bat: Here trolly, trolly, troll, troll. I've got a nice fresh badger for you - yum!
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: NO LISA...IT WAS THE DUMBASS "ATHEIST FUNDIE" BULLSHIT LINE YOU ALWAYS USE
     karl_von_hess1333: atheists....christians...debate...butch...bible questioning comes with the territory
     somersetcase1: karl, two totally different subjects..You are taking what I said, and changing it into what you want. Go ahead. Be my guest, I know better. I experience an objecxtive reality...One that I am confident exists whether I exist or not, and based on that experience I realize that my significance in that objective reality is small...I accept that, and have no problem with it. Now, if you want to deny objective reality, to make yourself feel important, go right ahead.
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: LISA..GET IT RIGHT IDIOT
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_troll: you're an atheistic fundy. I'd never believed it was functionally possible; but I've got evidence of it now.
     karl_von_hess1333: i dont deny objective reality..i question its importance to me if i'm not there
     somersetcase1: yes you do
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:22:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: LISA....I WAS CORRECTING YOUR OXYMORON STATEMENT , BUT THEN YOU STARTED YOUR ATHEISTS FUNDIE LINE LIKE YOU ARE ALL THAT AND YOU HAVE NOTHING IDIOT :))
     karl_von_hess1333: if the universe makes you feel insignificant that tells me more about you than the universe...somer
     john_the_antibaptist* tinkerbell_is_a_babe Please refrain from typing in all caps. It is rude and considered YELLING in chat.
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: LISA...COME ON DUMBASS...SHOW ME ONE PROOF OF YOUR GOD...LOSER BITCH :))
     kerrymadkins: I need some of that to clear up my zits...oxymoron it is.
     karl_von_hess1333: the universe is big and that should make me feel something...ok..but i dont
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: LISA...ASKING FOR EVIDENCE DOES NOT MAKE ME AN ATHEIST FUNDIE BITCH :))
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:23:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     somersetcase1: The universe doesn't make me feel anyway karl. You are confusing the terms.
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v oxy clean
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: LISA = STUPID CUNT
     gremlin_net: Oh wait...nevermind. tinkerbell_is_a_troll is not, in fact, an atheistic fundy; it's an antichristian fundy. To be atheistic, it would have to lack beliefs regarding deities. Since, as a moron, it possesses the positive belief in the negative condition of deities, it's antitheistic, not atheistic. And, for all we know, it might believe in any given extrabiblical deities. It's pretty dumb, after all....
     squinky_bat: Good point gremlin
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:24:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     karl_von_hess1333: somersetcase1: face it karl, you and I and everyone else are dots on a dot in and endless sea od reality."..amd that makes you feel...how?...somer
     somersetcase1: I don't "feel insignificant," because I'm in a big universe. If THAT'S what you're getting out what I said, then perhaps it's best we stop right here, because I neither have the time no patience to correct that absurdity.
     kerrymadkins: I heard she likes BAALS!
     gremlin_net: Also, given tinkerbell_is_a_troll's apparent proclivities against English, I almost wonder if it might be a fundy muslim. We get those now and again, when they're not flying into skyscrapers for a lark....
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: GREMLIN...FUNNY THING IS YOU JUST PROVED YOU ARE AGAINST WHAT LISA SAID...SO I WOULDN'T TALK DUMBASS
     john_the_antibaptist: tinkerbell = rude twit and will now be ignored
     mzmerrysunshine: moron, eh?
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_troll: I'll take that offer. Don't talk.
     wickedkreations: wow, there is alot of hate in here.... kinda amusing
     mzmerrysunshine: hi butch
     wickedkreations: hello
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö karl, I remember a line (or at least the idea of it) from a sci-fi novel I read. Two people watching out the viewport of their space liner as it is orbiting a colony world. One says "whenever I see this, I always feel so insignificant". The other says "you're obviously not a Tolivian, then. We have a different way of looking at things. I look out that port, see another world than the one we evolved on, see the spacecraft we designed and built to transport us there, after our humble origins on earth. I feel anything but insignificant." (going from memory here)
     mzmerrysunshine: i find this room always amusing
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: GREMLIN.....TELL LISA HOW SHE IS WRONG , I DARE YOU DUMBASS COWARD....YOU SAID THE BIBLE IS NOT ALL FALSE :))
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö But I liked the line.
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:25:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     karl_von_hess1333: somersetcase1: You wpuld think that intelligence would ground a person in the fundemental truth that we are really pretty insignificent "...and then you say the universe doesnt make you feel any particular way...this makes no sense...somer
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö gremlin's told me I'm wrong. He's even supported it sometimes. And if I was convinced, I admitted it.
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_troll: so did she; so she's not wrong. The only moron I've ever seen claim that the WHOLE bible was false was you.
     squinky_bat: Perhaps the Christians are right after all, when there's no one about, we DO turn on one another
     mzmerrysunshine: name-calling and everything!
     karl_von_hess1333: be that as it may...i have nothing more to add..somer
     somersetcase1: What is your objective worth karl....Tell me. You are obviously quite keen on yourself in an objective sense, so what IS your objective worth.
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:26:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: GREMLIN = LISA'S LITTLE COWARD BITCH...WHAT CAN'T YOU STAND UP TO LISA...YOU ARE AGAINST WHAT SHE SAID AND WAS USING IT ON ME ABOUT THE BIBLE BEING FALSE :))
     mzmerrysunshine: i hope somebody brought popcorn...
     karl_von_hess1333: i think i made my point..somer...i reallly cant think of anything else to say...
     kerrymadkins: I'm eating it because I'm a fundy.
     somersetcase1: karl, no you pretended that your subjective opinion of yourself mattered in an objective sense. :-))
     somersetcase1: okay, enough
     mzmerrysunshine: i'm here because i'm a fundy
     somersetcase1: lol
     mzmerrysunshine: :))
     squinky_bat: Most people are worth about $1.50 in raw materials
     karl_von_hess1333: how bout those mets?
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v someone needs a few Zantacs, a 40, and a joint
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_troll: because Lisa and I agree that X% of the bible is true, and Y% is false. You're the one, claiming that 100% of the bible is false, whom I disagree with, SpEd.
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:27:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     karl_von_hess1333: they seem to be stronger "up the middle"
     mzmerrysunshine: are overweight ppl worth more, squinky?
     kerrymadkins: a $1.40 for me..i lost some weight.
     mzmerrysunshine: since there is more of them, i mean
     somersetcase1: I don't watch the mets..I torture myself with the cubs
     john_the_antibaptist: squinky, that much hey, hmm i would have thought it to be much less like maybe half that.
     somersetcase1: They spent a ton of money this year
     karl_von_hess1333: <--steve bartman
     karl_von_hess1333: >:)
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: GREMLIN.....I NEVER SAID THOSE WORDS IDIOT....I SAID ALL THE THINGS PERTAING TO GOD AND JESUS WERE FALSE...AND I WAS ARGUING BECAUSE SHE SAID IT BEFORE AND I TOLD YOU, YET YOU STILL ARGUE WITH ME ABOUT IT :)) WHAT A LOSER
     squinky_bat: That's an average figure, allowing for a large proportion of lard-asses melted down
     wickedkreations: o.k people, i see u all disagree on the truth of the bible and such, this is great, but can anyone back up whatt hey are claiming?? please...
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_troll: the evidence shows otherwise, Liar.
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v gremlin, SpEd is a term I ain't familar with ... SpEd = special ed?
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:28:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     gremlin_net: iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: yup.
     unlimitedgame23: ANybody interested in a virtual football league?
     mzmerrysunshine: yes iforgot
     mzmerrysunshine: that's it
     gremlin_net: iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: also known as ShortBussed American.
     mzmerrysunshine: i think it's a mean insult
     squinky_bat: Yes, probably 75c is nearer. But I like to exaggerate my wealth
     somersetcase1: okay, my luch has digested somewhat..time for an afternoon snooze.
     somersetcase1*
     john_the_antibaptist: lol squiky
     gremlin_net: mzmerrysunshine: there are no insults in truth.
     john_the_antibaptist: squinky*
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: GREMLIN....THE BIBLE IS FALSE BOOK...DEAL WITH IT.....IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE 100% FALSE TO BE A FALSE BOOK...PETER PAN IS NOT 100% FALSE EITHER...BUT LISA SAYS THE BIBLE IS 100% FALSE :))
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö Oh, wah wah wah... poor tink made an absolute fool of itself and won't let it go. Give it up. Let it die the silly death it deserves. You're a broken record.
     mzmerrysunshine: it's the way you use it
     mzmerrysunshine: not what it is
     gremlin_net: mzmerrysunshine: or did you mean that it was insulting to the other SpEds?
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:29:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     karl_von_hess1333: truth is an insult to the deluded
     mzmerrysunshine: depends on how you use it, grem
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö "Long Bus Challenged"?
     karl_von_hess1333: makes em mad as hell
     tinkerbell_is_a_babe: BYE LOSERS :))
     john_the_antibaptist: lol lisa
     karl_von_hess1333: i'm not a loser!!!!
     karl_von_hess1333: :((
     gremlin_net: tinkerbell_is_a_troll: Lisa says that the bible is fractionally false; you claimed that the WHOLE bible was false; you failed to disprove the statement in Ecclesiastes 9.10; you're a lying troll.
     LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:30:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1
     mzmerrysunshine: it's ok karl...i clipped her wings...she'll hit the wall
     iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: v tink left... you can copy it to your site now
     tangledpulse: did ne christians actually turn up
     karl_von_hess1333: sniff
     karl_von_hess1333: thanks
     gremlin_net: iforgothowmanylettersfitinhere: yay. Humour abounds....
     mzmerrysunshine: i always turn up, tangled
     lisa_the_insomniac: ö tink was the only one who said the whole bible was 100% false. But claimed grem and I both said it when we hadn't. Gee, that's bright.
     mzmerrysunshine: i like this room
     tangledpulse: stop that shit snakepit
     mzmerrysunshine: she's gone, lisa
     mzmerrysunshine: *splat*
     
LOG DATA Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:31:26 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIANS:1

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