Tuesday 3rd June 2003
I wish I could be surprised by this one. zevnek@yahoo.com, the known fraud, has finally collected the courage to threaten my life. Those of us who have been waiting for the little coward to cross this line are all very proud of him. Well, except for the part where he pretends that his threats are just unrelated metaphors. Then again, most of the things he posts are utter lies; so no one really cares at all.
That's about the first time the little 'tard shows up in the chatlogue. Of course, it's hardly the last. Even though I tend to ignore him for weeks at a time. Or, I did, before it occurred to me that the brainless things he invents are perfect for iotm.grem.tv.
Bear zevnak's thoughts on Mensa in mind. And then watch this....
Let's stop there for a moment. Mensa very much have an Upper Echelon. Anyone affiliated with Mensa would know that.
Whether zevnak was just lying for the sake of trolling or actually thought--suddenly--that deities were real is unknown; I gonged him at that point.
And then Our Favourite Criminal wandered off. I'm sure he'll be back eventually. Well, probably. I suppose I was sure BangBang would be back eventually, too. But the FBI took away his computer for pulling the same shit zevnak is pulling here. So...time will tell, I guess.
Let's look at a few examples, shall we?
zevnak : i LOVE fucking christian girls
zevnak : i like going to small fundie churches
zevnak : and waiting for them to get annointed in the spirit
zevnak : then I use techniques to get these girls into deeper trances and take off their clothes
cyberboy181 : zenvak, that will be quite enough
zevnak : The more pentacostal the church, the easier it is to use advanced persuasion and hypnotic techniques to get them to have an orgy
zevnak : One church I did that in in Atlanta actually switched to Pagan after I did that
fzzybelly : zev i am an atheist and find your comments to be obvious lies
zevnak : another broke apart
fzzybelly : zev what bullshit
zevnak : fzzy if you are an atehist what has that to do with my going into a chruch and fucking with the people
cyberboy181 : im a true christian
zevnak : cyber, it is sad that you are even alive
fzzybelly : just to let you know that i am not sympathetic to religion
zevnak : fzzy, who gives a fuck about what you are sympathetic to?
fzzybelly : zev you still do not get it
fzzybelly : you are as dumb as a fucking rock
zevnak : cyber boy, you are the primary reason why abortion shoudl be legal
zevnak : actually, according to both islam and judaism, their religions started with adam
irrefragabilis : i dont have the fucking patience
zevnak : We once were able to get this 14 year old to speak in perfect hebrew by using hypnosis
zevnak : we got her to say the wildest stuff in hebrw and french at a church service
zevnak : for 5 months they called her The Prophetess
fzzybelly : zevnak on ignore for obvious lying
zevnak : we fucked her after teh services like crazy
zevnak : and then she got preggers so we went to another church
It doesn't take long for this to happen....
esotericx10 : zevnak And yo rely heavily on Ad Homs
zevnak : Yes! Ad hominem is wonderful!
zevnak : esoterix and you rely on being ugly and having a foul odor
zevnak : actually they are quite effective
esotericx10 : zevnak NOT in this room...you'll be called for it everytime
zevnak : oh oh you called me on it
zevnak : I guess youa re ever so effective in policing
zevnak : oh my you win
esotericx10 : zevnak I'm rather effective at policing trolls...which you are doing a good job at shaping up to be
zevnak : you must be right
zevnak : we all submit to your great wisdom and insight
esotericx10 : zevnak and you sarcasm is strictly second rate...common if you will
zevnak : esoteric yes you are so right
zevnak : yes you are an ivy league boy I can tell
zevnak : you must be in mensa
forthebeerandthebitches : could any1 just be normal.......
gremlin_net : forthebeerandthebitches: in what capacity?
gremlin_net : I've got a normal number of arms and legs; does that count?
thecrypticmind : lol
gremlin_net : I suppose there might be someone out there of average height and weight with an IQ of 100. But I doubt they're very interesting.
slambango : 100 is not a very impressive IQ
slambango : average sucks
thecrypticmind : for a 8 year old
gremlin_net : slambango: yup. And half of them are dumber than that.
thecrypticmind : iq tests r illogical
gremlin_net : An eight-year-old with an IQ of 100 would be pretty dumb too. He'd have a mental age of, like, eight.
gremlin_net : thecrypticmind: we've invented a new IQ test, actually. Pass or fail. If you say 'IQ tests don't prove anything', you flunk.
halfling_elf_paladin : hey, someone can have a low IQ, but fill their mind as much as they can, and someone else can have a high IQ, and there mind has nothing in it.
thecrypticmind : intelligence can't be measured...
gremlin_net : halfling_elf_paladin: true. But that's not what IQ is about anyway. IQ measures how quickly you can learn, not how much you have learned.
halfling_elf_paladin : a lot of IQ tests go more on crystalized intelligence, rather than innate ability
gremlin_net : thecrypticmind: actually, it's a pretty effective test. On average, the people who claim that IQ tests prove nothing have tested well below genius.
thecrypticmind : lol
thecrypticmind : ure a genius too huh gremlin
gremlin_net : thecrypticmind: yeah.
thecrypticmind : average doesn't mean shit
thecrypticmind : the iq test is pretty effective... yea
thecrypticmind : not accurate though
halfling_elf_paladin : I've gotten as high as 136, and as low as 116. If I take one when I am tired, I do shity
gremlin_net : thecrypticmind: really? How is the IQ test inaccurate?
thecrypticmind : it depends...
thecrypticmind : we're not fuckin robots
gremlin_net : halfling_elf_paladin: that's funny. I score higher when I'm tried. I don't spend as much time overthinking.
gremlin_net : thecrypticmind: so IQ tests are inaccurate because you're not a robot. I see.
thecrypticmind : one could score less the test if they mean to... if their tired... if they've got somethin else on their mind
gremlin_net : thecrypticmind: so...you scored pretty low, i take it.
thecrypticmind : no I'm sayin the iq test is inaccurate because we're human
gremlin_net : thecrypticmind: not really. Like I just said, I scored higher when I was tired.
thecrypticmind : well somebody else could score lower
thecrypticmind : doesn't mean ure everyone gremlin
gremlin_net : thecrypticmind: someone else could be an idiot. That's hardly my fault.
gremlin_net : thecrypticmind: you have no idea what an IQ test is, have you....
thecrypticmind : lol
thecrypticmind : no I don't...
thecrypticmind : u idiot
zevnak : That is the stuff by gardner on intelligence
zevnak : but there is a basic "g" which underlies it all
gremlin_net : thecrypticmind: an IQ test can't be inaccurate because it's testing homosapiens. That's all it does.
thecrypticmind : lol
thecrypticmind : yea ok
thecrypticmind : so If I went in there and got a 30 on purpose does that make me a 30?
thecrypticmind : does that say my intelligence is way lower then everyone else?
thecrypticmind : no
gremlin_net : thecrypticmind: all an IQ test determines is what your mental age is. If you're twenty with a mental age of thirty, then your IQ is 150. It's really very simple.
zevnak : cryptic, obviously you have no idea how IQ tests are administered
thecrypticmind : lol
gonzophobe : gremlin: I was under the impression it depended on the test?
zevnak : Gremlin, you have no idea what IQ tests are
gremlin_net : thecrypticmind: if you got a thirty on purpose, I'd be impressed. Mostly by your amazing ability to breathe anyway.
thecrypticmind : gremlin's just an arrogant dumbass zevnak
gremlin_net : gonzophobe: to a degree. There are different types of tests. The common one is Wechsler. I assume that's the one we're talking about.
zevnak : secondly, if someone who otehrwise seemed average scored a 30, it would be clear to the psychometrician that the person taking the testing was fucking off
gonzophobe : Hmm well I don't know much about it, I've only ever had one online
thecrypticmind : lol
thecrypticmind : then wats their score zevnak
gremlin_net : thecrypticmind: right. An arrogant dumbass who scored well above genius. Where you're brilliant, retarded, and unable to produce a sentence without a homonymical disorder getting in the way of coherency.
gremlin_net : 'tard.
thecrypticmind : yea way above genius
thecrypticmind : I bet that's bullshit
gremlin_net : thecrypticmind: bet away.
zevnak : A good psych report would report the score that the peson attained and would state that the tester thought the subject was being defenisve or or sabotaging their testing
thecrypticmind : wat would their score be zevnak?
thecrypticmind : I never said it was possible to know if they were or not u fuckin idiot
zevnak : Actually, it is clear when someone is not putting across their best effort on a WAIS IQ test
zevnak : Cryptic, you hostile little college dropout weasel
gremlin_net : Isn't it amazing that thecrypticmind, an illiterate moron, is qualified to call everyone in the room 'u fuckin idiot'?
thecrypticmind : illiterate?
thecrypticmind : least I'm not arrogant
gremlin_net : thecrypticmind: it means 'not good with English'.
thecrypticmind : ure just like a Christian gremlin
gremlin_net : thecrypticmind: not really. I have no faith, I'm not insane, and I dress well.
thecrypticmind : and u think they're ignorant
thecrypticmind : lol
thecrypticmind : I'm gonna go and fuck up my iq test on purpose next time
zevnak : do that....
gremlin_net : thecrypticmind: that's good problemsolving--plan out your excuse in advance.
thecrypticmind : yea gremlin
thecrypticmind : dumbass
thecrypticmind : I don't come into the room and say I scored 170
thecrypticmind : yea I'll proof that it's a bullshit test
gremlin_net : thecrypticmind: so you're not a total liar, anyway....
thecrypticmind : no gremlin I was pointin out ure a liar
gremlin_net : thecrypticmind: but not in any convincing capacity.
hunter_the_crazychick : is back
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin said he scored 170?
thecrypticmind : lol
thecrypticmind : no gremlin said he's a genius
hunter_the_crazychick : When did you score 170?
gremlin_net : Hunter: of course not.
halfling_elf_paladin : well shit cryptic, Einstein was !80
halfling_elf_paladin : 180
hunter_the_crazychick : thecrypticmind: he is.
thecrypticmind : by sayin that I believe ure a fuckin moron
hunter_the_crazychick : shrugs.
gremlin_net : Einstein scored 140. He also took a test designed to measure children. We don't actually know what his IQ was.
thecrypticmind : a genius never says he is one
zevnak : The Wechsler IQ tests do not test book smarts
gremlin_net : thecrypticmind: you believe that. And a belief is the pretention that a condition is true, despite the lack of supporting evidence.
thecrypticmind : lol
scream_reaver : zevnak: what do they test? I'm not familiar with them
halfling_elf_paladin : well, you can have a corvette, but if you don't drive it, it will sit and corrode.
thecrypticmind : u believe ure a genius though gremlin
thecrypticmind : that's wats funny
gremlin_net : thecrypticmind: we, on the other hand, accept [if lament] that you're a moron, just based on your inability to produce a sentence in English.
hunter_the_crazychick : knows that Gremlin's well above that magical 120-155 "Genius" range.
thecrypticmind : u "believe" I'm a moron...
gremlin_net : thecrypticmind: now, if your native language is something totally alien to the English character set, you could be smarter than you appear. But I personally doubt that you speak anything other than PigeonEbonics.
thecrypticmind : typing out the word "you" doesn't make me any smarter then me typing it with just "u"
zevnak : PIEGEONEBONICS! That is good grem!
zevnak : cryptic, you do more than use u for you
thecrypticmind : lol
thecrypticmind : no I just use u
reptylinin2 : I believe a *true* I.Q. test, i.e., via MENSA, actually includes both oral and written tests.
zevnak : no, you write poorly
joshie_koneko : jaytee_dknl, maybe I should ask your fucking asl? ^_^
gremlin_net : thecrypticmind: no. Typing it out doesn't make you smarter. Being smarter allows you to type it out. It's a causal thing.
thecrypticmind : I'm not writing a book here...
zevnak : First of all, reptyline, MENSA uses the Wechsler test as one of their standards
hunter_the_crazychick : repty: true IQ tests are administered by a psychiatrist, as far as I know, and have /nothing/ to do with the Mensa Admissions Exam.
thecrypticmind : no I found it pretty smart that I could type u out in a faster way then typin out you
hunter_the_crazychick : thecrypticmind: what, you can't type? What's wrong with you?
zevnak : but with that time savings, cryptic, you still cant put together a coherent sentence
thecrypticmind : I still can put out a point
thecrypticmind : that's all that matters
gremlin_net : thecrypticmind: no; a book could be written off as an art form. Take Ridley Walker [please] for example. Terrible book. But it was done that way on purpose. You're trying to be understood in a medium in which we see nothing of you but your inability to spell or grasp simple concepts. Of course we must conclude that you're a blithering plebeian.
thecrypticmind : my inability to spell?
thecrypticmind : there's no inability
zevnak : actually, vocabularly most highly correlates with over all IQ
thecrypticmind : lol
thecrypticmind : yes and when I write a research paper I use the correct spelling
zevnak : As was said by Jonathan Swift: One cannot dissuade another by reason that through which they have arrived through emotion
gremlin_net : thecrypticmind: right. Every time you use something like 'their' in place of 'there' or 'they're', which...I stopped counting somewhere in the twenties. This homonymical disorder suggests either a basic inability to handle English, or a mental illness in the schizophrenic range. I'm being optimistic.
reptylinin2 : Gremlin, by the way, I noticed a comment you made last night concerning *my* I.Q. being 'not average'--why did you say that, given I have no score to show for it?
thecrypticmind : lol @ repty
reptylinin2 : thecryptic, why was that a humorous statement?
gremlin_net : Repty: based on experience. You operate on a level higher than your reported age.
thecrypticmind : no I found it humorous that gremlin is that arrogant
zevnak : gremlin is not arrogant, cryptic you ar just stupid
gremlin_net : thecrypticmind: nevermind; zevnak just beat me to it.
thecrypticmind : a genius comes into a "chat room" and tells everyone he is a genius
thecrypticmind : I think that's someone who is arrogant
halfling_elf_paladin : hey, repty is smart, gremlin is smart, cryptic is smart, etc. Just because you don't like what a person has to say, doesn't make them stupid.
reptylinin2 : Gremlin, and based on *my* experience, I take you as a credible source.
zevnak : a dope comes in here (you) and proves that he is a dope
hunter_the_crazychick : thecrypticmind: really? He just 'came in here' and 'announced' it? When was this? Certainly not in the /years/ he's been in here prior to this.
gremlin_net : thecrypticmind: you must have missed the part where I was asked.
thecrypticmind : lol
thecrypticmind : asked wat?
thecrypticmind : I'm not sayin anyone is stupid halfling...
dark_khedlar : I am a near genius and i am arrogant but i am not arrogant for mearly stating that i am a near genius
zevnak : So what have we seen emprically here? Cryptic has no idea how IQ tests are constructed, administered or interpreted and yet he continues to rant and rave
gremlin_net : I don't see a need to be ashamed of having an IQ above genius. It's hardly an opprobrium. Granted: it's not easy to deal with the majority; but that has little to do with whether people know about it.
zevnak : first of all, there is no such thing as a near genius
demiurge_nt : No such thing as a near miss either :)
zevnak : unless your IQ is in the 3rd Standard Deviation you are not a genius
gremlin_net : 'superior' could be construed as 'near genius' I suppose. Closer to genius than average is.
dark_khedlar : zev .. i say near genius becausr of the tests i have taken 1 put me in genius and 6 put me in sub-genuis
zevnak : Dark, there is no test which has a category called sub genius unless it is some invalidated test or something you got from some religious cult in Texas
reptylinin2 : halfing, I'm not arrogant enough to consider myself a genius, as I've not taken the MENSA I.Q. test, as far as I know, anyway.
gremlin_net : zevnak: I think he's talking about the vernacular 'not in the genius range' being subgenius.
zevnak : Actually, I am a member of Mensa, and most of the meetings I have been to are rather boring.
thecrypticmind : if I said I was good at soccer... it would be arrogant for me to say I'm the best goalie in the league
zevnak : cryptic, you are just a weenie
gremlin_net : zevnak: agreed. If I wanted to talk to pretentious morons, I'd join a D&D game; they have better food.
thecrypticmind : lol
halfling_elf_paladin : wow mensa, Kudos!
zevnak : all you need is to be in the 2nd standard deviation
gremlin_net : zevnak: did they get rid of that elite echelon thing above 155 or so?
zevnak : gremlin, you are confused, the only group with "an elite eschelon" is a group called triple sigma
zevnak : Does this room have any young but over 18 girls with minimal sexual experience in it?>
What isn't clear yet is why zevnak would want to kill me. Let's see if we can find that out....
zevnak : actually, evolution or at least the way it is understood has problems
zevnak : there is no such thing as adaptation, it really is that those that dont have some trait to ensure survival die off
gremlin_net : zevnak: that some people don't know what evolution is in no way threatens the fact that things evolve.
zevnak : Gremlin, most people do not understand that organisms to not adapt to changes.
gremlin_net : zevnak: organisms adapt. Look at bacteria.
zevnak : The changes merely created a condition of the survival of the fittest, but there MUSt already be variation in the gene pool
alec_kohut_1 : evolution is supported by fossil evidence
zevnak : gremlin, no you are misunderstanding
alec_kohut_1 : genetics confirms the validity of evolutionary theory
gremlin_net : zevnak: oh. I see what you're saying. Okay; you're right from a perspective.
zevnak : A change in the environment does not cause adaptive mutations
gremlin_net : zevnak: right.
zevnak : the mutation is independant of the environment
alec_kohut_1 : zev...you are correct
zevnak : what happens is that some mutation becomes adaptive if it ensures survival
zevnak : Kohut, of course I am correct
gremlin_net : zevnak: I thought you were arguing some sort of intelligent design. Like the only animals to survive are the ones designed to survive upcoming events.
alec_kohut_1 : zevnak...you rule
zevnak : gremlin, then you are a presumtuous dope.....the fact is that intelligent design does exist, god created DNA and also initiated a process of evolution, it is no different than when a human prgrammer designs a simulation and leaves it running
gremlin_net : zevnak: are you joking?
zevnak : Science is a method not a belief system
zevnak : Gremlin, nope. and actually i can easily prove you do not understand the mechanism of evolution although you claim it
gremlin_net : zevnak: we'll get to that after you prove that DNA was designed by a deity.
zevnak : OTIOSE
alec_kohut_1 : Hehe...God created DNA....that's funny
zevnak : Sure God did..... Look at the way water functions
gremlin_net : zevnak: not evidence; Strike One.
alec_kohut_1 : zev...I can guess you are joking
zevnak : in any event, Evolution does not involve thought or intent of the organism evolving
gremlin_net : zevnak: as for understandings, I'm a vertebrate palaeontologist.
gremlin_net : zevnak: not evidence; Strike Two.
zevnak : Evolution merely requires some pre-existent mechanism for change
gremlin_net : zevnak: not evidence; Strike Three. Here's your shirt: http://fraud.grem.tv
gremlin_net : Next....
gremlin_net : alec_kohut_1: the way I see it, zev is one of two things. It's either a fraud who is seriously claiming--and failing to prove--that evolution is controlled by a deity, or it's a troll merely posting this shit to get a reaction. Either way, the reaction is that he's gonged until 2031.
alec_kohut_1 : gremlin...I can't disagree there
More recently, due to the IotM contest, I ungonged all these morons to watch for good quotes from them. Including zevnak.
And he didn't disappoint us. Although he had started obsessing over me. Take today, for example....
LOG DATA Tue, 3 Jun 2003 07:18:17 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
zevnak : Good the Weasel is not here, only the Weaselette
diogenes_of_synope_2003 : stefan: :)) it has nothing to so with 'atheistic evolution' ( whatever that is) nor monotheism -- the point is that the school system not only teaches the various subjects but also offers social interactions which are necessary in later life
zevnak : what does atheistic evolution mean? most of teh evolutionary biologists I know believe in god
stefan_vonwest : Diogen- i agree that the social aspect is great. But the public school system is athiestic...so if you are theistic then the public school system is premised on something that is opposed to your belief system
hunter_the_crazychick : playaz_quasar: so lemme get this straight; you think I'm spoiled? So, what, I'm living at home off of daddy's income [hence daddy's little princess], never have to do anything? Is that what you're getting at?
zevnak : oooh, the truth emerges about weaselette
zevnak : oh subgenius is here
hunter_the_crazychick : playaz_quasar: come on; waiting for an answer....
zevnak : oooh and soooo demanding too
zevnak : weaselette!
playaz_quasar : :))
hunter_the_crazychick : snaps her fingers at playaz_quasar. Pay attention.
hunter_the_crazychick : Take your fucking ritalin.
zevnak : Hunter is merely a weaselette who thinks she has proven an argument when someone gives up on arguing her or when she deigns them an idiot by her arbitrary standard
hunter_the_crazychick : zev: no, that's *you*.
gremlin_net : zevnak: no one believes you, Fraud.
zevnak : Does the Weaselette attend school? Does she work? Does she contribute in any way to society?
zevnak : What does she do other than argue on line?
zevnak : One day, when the Weasel gets bored she will move on
gremlin_net : zevnak: no one believes you, Fraud.
hunter_the_crazychick : zevnak: oddly, I contribute far more to society than you do.
zevnak : Oh? in what way?
gremlin_net : Hunter: that's not saying much.
zevnak : are you a big philanthropist?
the_chainsawpsycho : Hunter: Not in ZevnakLand.
zevnak : or is your only contribution to give blow jobs to the Weasel?
gremlin_net : Hunter: the only thing zevnak does is advertises me.
hunter_the_crazychick : zevnak: I'm not giving *you* any money....
zevnak : Chainsaw; Zevnak-World, please
zevnak : I dont want your money
gremlin_net : no one believes you, Fraud.
zevnak : I just want to read your obituary
hunter_the_crazychick : So I'm obviously not *that* big a philanthropist. Anyone I give money to needs to show at least a modicum of intelligence, and a desire to further themselves in life.
hunter_the_crazychick : You, however, are pathetic.
zevnak : Oh! Weasel, is THAT the excuse you have for paying the Weasel's rent?
gremlin_net : zevnak: no one believes you, Fraud.
zevnak : Oh, I will live past it
zevnak : Really, now.
gremlin_net : zevnak: no one believes you, Fraud.
hunter_the_crazychick : zevnak: I don't pay rent on any weasel's hutches.
zevnak : The Weaselette says she is a great contributor to society
gremlin_net : zevnak: no one believes you, Fraud.
hunter_the_crazychick : zev: No. I'm just more of a contributor than you.
zevnak : Hmmmm, I guess she does give something if she stays online and out of the real world
zevnak : Oh! Weaselette, you ARE the queen of rationalization
gremlin_net : zevnak: no one believes you, Fraud.
hunter_the_crazychick : zevnak: you're projecting again....
gremlin_net : zevnak may actually be clinically retarded.
zevnak : Someone is paranoid? Did the houseplant also tell you to pull him from that school?
zevnak : The Creation Research Institute uses logic I have seen only among schizophrenics
larry_isley : Zevnak, would you like examples? Or am I to beleive what I've been readin and assume you are a troll?
zevnak : Isely, and you are a toad
larry_isley : troll it is "click"
hunter_the_crazychick : larry: you're only a toad; don't worry; you'll graduate to weasel if you persist in speaking to us.
larry_isley : I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt
zevnak : There are only two true weasels
zevnak : My dog killed another weasel out in the back yesterday
zevnak : I usually use my .22 on them
zevnak : Evolution is quite fact and is alos proven
hunter_the_crazychick : zev: wow; by that logic, I could report you and get you kicked off of yahoo. But then you'd kill yourself, and we wouldn't want such a PRODUCTIVE member of society committing suicide because he mistakenly made veiled references to rifles and using them on someone in chat, now would we?
gremlin_net : Did zevnak just post an incomplete threat?
gremlin_net : zevnak: did you just threaten to shoot me? Or was that just more of your pussy fraud?
gremlin_net : So that was a good way to get zevnak to shut the fuck up....
zevnak : the gaps are things left yet to discover they are not real problems
zevnak : she has to wait to get another check from the trustees of her trust fund
gremlin_net : zevnak: did you just threaten to shoot me, or was it just more cowardly trolling?
gremlin_net : zevnak: did you just threaten to shoot me, or was it just more cowardly trolling?
hunter_the_crazychick : zevnak: what trust fund?
gremlin_net : zevnak: did you just threaten to shoot me, or was it just more cowardly trolling?
zevnak : Someone has difficulties with reading comprehension!
gremlin_net : zevnak: did you just threaten to shoot me, or was it just more cowardly trolling?
gremlin_net : zevnak threatened to shoot me. He's a terrorist.
gremlin_net : zevnak: here's your shirt: http://terrorist.grem.tv
zevnak : yesterday, my dog was scouting around a weasel warren and managed, once again, to catch one by the neck
gremlin_net : zevnak: we're laughing at your empty threat to kill me, Fraud.
zevnak : he shook his head until the weasel's neck broke
gremlin_net : zevnak: we're laughing at your empty threat to kill me, Fraud.
zevnak : It was awful. Just awful.
gremlin_net : zevnak: we're laughing at your empty threat to kill me, Fraud.
zevnak : My dog knows how to type, and has netiquette, he does not repeating things over and over.
zevnak : Neither is my dog paranoid.
gremlin_net : zevnak: we're laughing at your empty threat to kill me, you impotent fraud.
hunter_the_crazychick : zevnak: so you let your dog type for you? That explains it.
gremlin_net : Hunter: you realise that zevnak's threat was more coherent than BangBang's was? And Banger was arrested for it.
zevnak : I asked him about this once, and he said, "Don't humans serve dogs? Don't you work and feed me while I stay home and sleep?"
gremlin_net : zevnak: we're laughing at your empty threat to kill me, you impotent fraud.
hunter_the_crazychick : Gremlin: yeah.
gremlin_net : Hunter: based on the precedent, zevnak is a criminal.
rev_sara_the_demon_child : I can't see zev. I'm not disappointed/
gremlin_net : Sara: you're not missing much. He's just threatening to shoot me.
hunter_the_crazychick : Sara: internet threats = lame.
gremlin_net : zevnak: we're laughing at your empty threat to kill me, you impotent fraud.
zevnak : Substantiate your claim?
gremlin_net : zevnak: we're laughing at your empty threat to kill me, you impotent fraud.
rev_sara_the_demon_child : is he still typing in his made-up language he claims is legitimate?
hunter_the_crazychick : sara: and his dog talks to him.
zevnak : Even my dog knows notto use cut and paste in a public place.
rev_sara_the_demon_child : hunter but they're still entertaining
gremlin_net : zevnak: we're laughing at your empty threat to kill me, you impotent fraud.
zevnak : Oh? which word?
rev_sara_the_demon_child : hunter: that's disturbing
gremlin_net : Oh well. Now that I have today's What's New all planned out....
hunter_the_crazychick : Sara: he's got...problems.
zevnak : Yes, and then after he rips the poor weasel to shreds, I am left once again to clean up the mess. Poor little weasel never had a chance.
gremlin_net : zevnak: we're laughing at your empty threat to kill me, you impotent fraud.
zevnak : In any event, my dog wants to take the Humvee and go hunting for weasels in other states.
zevnak : my dog is a real weasel hunter
zevnak : We are going weasel hunting!
zevnak : Where IS that dog of mine?
hunter_the_crazychick : zev: you couldn't find a weasel if it bit your nuts off.
zevnak : Yep! but my dog can find them, and when he does, BANG!
hunter_the_crazychick : zev: you can't afford a dog.
zevnak : LOL
zevnak : couldn't afford a dog! LOL, wait until I tell that to him.
zevnak : I named my dog Karl
zevnak : Karl Marx, because he hates social parasites
hunter_the_crazychick : zev: here's a hint -- if nobody else can see your dog, and it talks to you, it's not a real dog.
hunter_the_crazychick : zev: he must really hate you.
zevnak : Oh! Weaselette, what is your home address?
hunter_the_crazychick : zevnak: you mean you can't find it?
hunter_the_crazychick : zevnak: sorry. It's against Yahoo's TOS to give out personal information in the chatroom.
hunter_the_crazychick : You're just gonna have to work your way backward through the PO Box that's so blatant....
zevnak : Weaselette, you could always give it to me in a PM
hunter_the_crazychick : zev: and yet, I don't PM. and by the way, the name's Hunter. I realise that simple things such as names are beyond your grasp....
zevnak : I just read the TOS and no where does it say that it is against the TOS to reveal your own personal information such as your own adress
gremlin_net : is away (Away)
hunter_the_crazychick : zevnak: asking me to give you my address is collecting/storing personal data about another user.
full_flavor_menthol : Unfortunatly Yahoo doesn't care about what happens anymore.
zevnak : That only means that you may not store the info of others, NOT that you are prohibited from giving your own info
hunter_the_crazychick : full: actualy, they're starting to care a little more, because they're losing users.
zevnak : and one set of data is far from collecting
hunter_the_crazychick : zevnak: you're a lawyer now?
zevnak : therefore, revealing your own information is not against the TOS, only copying it once it is revealed
zevnak : The Weaselette is never wrong.....
hunter_the_crazychick : zev: oh, by the way, the one before that, stalk or harass another user. That stands too.
zevnak : Weaselette, what is your home address?
zevnak : As far as harassment goes, ain't that the pot calling the kettle black.
hunter_the_crazychick : zevnak: and sad that you're too fucking retarded to find it.
zevnak : Nope, says nothing about soliciting personal info.
zevnak : Weaselette, too bad you are too paranoid and confused to read properly
the_chainsawpsycho : Woody: Can we make an adult film?
zevnak : LOL, collecting and soliciting do not mean the same thing. I think you should consult a dictionary.
zevnak : LOL you blew it Rodent Queen.
hunter_the_crazychick : SOlicit: To entice or incite to evil or illegal action.
hunter_the_crazychick : Thesaurus: Entry:
hunter_the_crazychick : collect.
hunter_the_crazychick : Function: verb.
hunter_the_crazychick : Definition: Solicit.
hunter_the_crazychick : Synonyms: acquire, dig up, moonlight requisition, muster, obtain, raise, secure, solicit
zevnak : Here we have definitive proof that Collect and Solicit do not mean the same thing in anyway
hunter_the_crazychick : zevnak: http://thesaurus.reference.com/search?q=collect
hunter_the_crazychick : Really?
hunter_the_crazychick : Looks like you're *wrong*.
zevnak : The TOS clearly states that you may not store or collect information about others, but in no place does it say that you may not ask for information
zevnak : Therefore, asking someone about their ideas is permitted
zevnak : asking about their age or first name is permitted.
zevnak : SAVING such information or asking systematically is not permitted
zevnak : Also, saving all conversations from a chat room is not permitted
zevnak : Of course, Weaselette, if they sided with me, you would be limited to logging on with your boyfriend's name.
zevnak : Hmmm..... Maybe I shall keep this with the purpose of showing this to them.
hunter_the_crazychick : zevnak: and oddly, the last time this happened, they sided with me. Do you really want to test your odds?
zevnak : Sure, let's go for it.
zevnak : Let's discuss the terms.
hunter_the_crazychick : zevnak: sorry. Done.
zevnak : I argue that asking someone for personal information is ok within the TOS.
zevnak : You admitted that you save the transcripts from here. I argue that doing that violates the TOS.
zevnak : ILOL
zevnak : OK, email sent
zevnak : work done
More later....
--Gremlin