Posted by Jurassosaurus [63.184.5.233 - sdn-ap-001caburbP1503.dialsprint.net] on 18 May 2002 at 20.23.48 ZuluTime:

In Reply to: So it's not just me.... posted by Gremlin on 18 May 2002 at 04.32.58 ZuluTime:

     
     I didn't really mind that one. It was the other oneliners that drove me to kill. Including the prerequisite I've got a bad feeling about this, which is coincidentally becoming the response most often heard to what do you think the next episode will be like. It would be one thing if everyone expected that line--like Bond: James Bond, or something; but most people never notice that the line appears somewhere in each of the five films to date. I'm just kinda hoping that, in the final film, the line will have some actual purpose.
     
     
     Hmm, I never actually noticed that. I remember hearing it in Jedi, Menace and now Clones. I think Leia said it in Empire, but I'm not sure where I heard it in Hope. Guess that's an excuse to watch everything again.
     
     
     I was working on that one for hours. I knew it wasn't the aliens from AI, and I still haven't quite worked out whether one of them was in the Jedi Council in Menace; it finally hit me when I woke up tonight that they looked roughly identical to the things in 1978. What we're supposed to make of that is still very much in question.
     
     
     Yes, I believe you mentioned something about cloning Richard Dreyfus's character. That could work if one assumes him suffering from some debilitating injury from the shark attack in Jaws (some off camera bite, no doubt), or some weird movie string together like that.
     
     
     
     For that matter, James Earl Jones has already leaked that Lucas has given him a few minutes' of dialogue for the end of the final film, suggesting that the last thing we'll see before Episode Four's opening scroll will be Anakin Skylwalker becoming Darth Vader. Personally, I'd think that having more than a simple, ominous introduction for Vader would really wreck things in the final film.
     
     
     Agreed, Lucas needs to keep in mind that this is a prequel. As such, we are "supposed to" not know about Anakin's fate. It should be interesting to see how well these 6 movies hold together chronologically after all this is done.

Incidentally, is this series still planned to be a nonology, or did Lucas decide to scrap any post Jedi stuff?
     
     
     If Gremlins had been CG'd and had moved that quickly, the film might have done a lot better than it did. Henson may have died at the right time, because this would have killed him if he'd lived to see it. The Muppets have gone extinct, along with GoMotion.
     
     

     Well, while CG has effectively killed off traditional puppetry and stop/go motion, Henson's crew still has a stable career in animatronics and TV. Jim Henson's creature shop is as good as Stan Winston's crew in terms of actual animatronics (see Pilot from Farscape, as an example). I also don't think the muppets would ever go completely CG. Being hand controlled puppets is part of their appeal. At most, I'd say the Yoda puppet has been permanently retired.
     
     
     Yeah. We kinda knew about that in 1980. And it was a cinch by 1983. Which leads to one more thing we'll have to be told once and for all in the final film: that the prophesy isn't about Anakin at all--there will have to be another jedi out there somewhere.
     
     
     I can just hear the rehash of Yoda's "There is another." coming up somewhere in Episode III. Now that I think of it, I wonder if we'll see the kids at all in the final film. Luke's twin sister was supposed to be a surprise in IV-VI. Knowing that Padme has twins in III could really deflate the Skywalker story in the later films. Then again, perhaps Lucas isn't thinking that anyone would dare see the movies in chronological (in Star Wars time) order.