Posted by Gremlin [12.211.200.127 - 12-211-200-127.client.attbi.com] on 26 April 2003 at 17.39.35 ZuluTime:

Not my fault this 'tard didn't talk to a lawyer first....

LOG DATA Sat, 26 Apr 2003 10:41:36 gremlin_net, ATHEIST vs. CHRISTIAN CHAT:1
     jetmar9 : anyone who is a Christian?
     iconfesschrist : <----Christian
     

philip_gyle

philip_gyle : <-------christian
     iconfesschrist : repent or you will all perish
     gremlin_net : iconfesschrist: based on what evidence?
     gremlin_net : iconfesschrist: you realise that 'repent or perish' is a violation of US Code 18.875 and a felony, right?
     iconfesschrist : based on the Spritually Alive you are dead and already condemned unless you repent and accept the Spirit of TRUTH
     gremlin_net : iconfesschrist: not evidence; Strike One.
     iconfesschrist : if you accepted truth you would not love darkness rather than Light of God
     gremlin_net : iconfesschrist: not evidence; Strike Two.
     iconfesschrist : the conduct of these self serving persons proposing identitity- that which is not identity but a active choice of exploitation of God's intent, humankinds natural design, and without care of spiritual LIFE
     iconfesschrist : the conduct of these self serving persons proposing identitity- that which is not identity but a active choice of exploitation of God's intent, humankinds natural design, and without care of spiritual LIFE
     iconfesschrist : from the beginning of Creation God made them male and female, for this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife
     gremlin_net : iconfesschrist: not evidence; Strike Three. You are now a known fraud. You are hereby sentenced to 9999 days in the killfile. See you in 2031. Here's your shirt: http://fraud.grem.tv
     gremlin_net : iconfesschrist: of course, you're also guilty of violating US Code 18.875, which may lead to your arrest and conviction IRL. Watch for NoKnockers delivering flowers to your house....
     philip_gyle : gremlin_net..........what does that law say ..the one you just posted
     gremlin_net : philip_gyle: Which? US Code 18.875?
     philip_gyle : yeah thats one
     gremlin_net : philip_gyle: essentially that the telecommunicative transmission of interstate threats--especially extortive threats--is a federal crime. I'll find you the actual law....
     gremlin_net : philip_gyle: http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/875.html
     gremlin_net : US Code 18.875 [B]: Whoever, with intent to extort from any person, firm, association, or corporation, any money or other thing of value, transmits in interstate or foreign commerce any communication containing any threat to kidnap any person or any threat to injure the person of another, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
     philip_gyle : so if i say repent or go to hell ......i am threatening to injure you???
     gremlin_net : 'repent or perish' is an ultimatum to a person with threats to injure.
     philip_gyle : or kidnap you??
     philip_gyle : from who??God??...your going to take God to court
     gremlin_net : philip_gyle: kidnapping isn't a requirement.
     gremlin_net : philip_gyle: no. Since deities don't exist in fact, we can only prosecute the individuals known to exist for the crimes they've been witnessed performing.
     philip_gyle : what about publishers of bibles will they be taken to court ???
     gremlin_net : philip_gyle: novels are exempt because they're considered A) works of fiction and B) generalised. a threat to the Royal We is less specific than a threat to an individual. The bible is exempt because it's legally viewed as historical fiction and entertainment.
     philip_gyle : what about tele evangelists.......???...why havent they been taken to court??
     philip_gyle : gremlin_net ....to say we are breaking a law .....is nonsense and you know it ...good try though
     gremlin_net : philip_gyle: televangelists speak for the Royal We and are infomercials intended for entertainment purposes only. Same as psychics.
     gremlin_net : philip_gyle: you're breaking a number of laws by the letter of those laws. That the cryptotheocracy lets you get away with it is another matter.
     philip_gyle : then what is a threat.......which kind of threat are you talking about .........??
     philip_gyle : if i say repent or burn ...its either entertainment or whatever else you poeted
     gremlin_net : philip_gyle: more obvious than threats to people is the fraud of claiming that deities exist. And, in most cases, those claims aren't prosecuted either.
     gremlin_net : philip_gyle: right. Although entertainment is in the eye of the beholder. Personally, I don't find religion to be very entertaining. But, legally, religion is nothing more than a videogame.
     philip_gyle : then how am i threatening you???......please explian
     gremlin_net : philip_gyle: you're not. You've admitted that you're merely posting FanFic for purposes of entertainment, and that nothing you say about deities should be construed as fact.
     philip_gyle : then what are you spouting nonsense about ..........why waste your time posting such nonsense abpout breaking a law ..when out of your own mouth we are not?????????
     philip_gyle : more atheistic nonsense
     gremlin_net : philip_gyle: you're only breaking the law if you're validating these threats as being matters of fact. If you're admitting that you're merely relaying fiction, then you're safe.
     gremlin_net : philip_gyle: essentially, you're either a criminal or a liar.
     gremlin_net : philip_gyle: the good news is that lying without claiming that the lies are the truth isn't illegal.
     philip_gyle : then i am a criminal .....cause its true...ok arrest me ...guuilty as charged .i'll give you my home address and you send the cops around to arrest me
     gremlin_net : philip_gyle: okay. Then that's settled. You're pleading guilty to violating US Code 18.875. Right?
     philip_gyle : yup
     philip_gyle : guilty
     philip_gyle : take me away officer
     gremlin_net : philip_gyle: okay. Then that's settled. You're a confessed terrorist.
     philip_gyle : yup seems like it
     gremlin_net : philip_gyle: and, of course, I don't associate with terrorists. Here's your shirt: http://terrorist.grem.tv
     gremlin_net : Gong.