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11 July 2002 at 20.46.01 ZuluTime

A classic problem...

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Posted by Jurassosaurus [148.78.249.10 - cf3.mrt.starband.net] on 11 July 2002 at 20.46.01 ZuluTime:

In Reply to: thanks gremlin and may the discussion begin posted by whoami on 11 July 2002 at 19.57.29 ZuluTime:

...and one that finds itself at the crux of many a science vs religion debate.

I predict a valid answer to the "proof of god" statement posited at the beginning of this thread, but it will be one that is based off of a clever use of semantics.

So, in an attempt to nip that one in the bud, let's see what dictionary.com has to say about gods:

     god(gd)
     n.
     God



a) A being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe, the principal object of faith and worship in monotheistic religions.
b)The force, effect, or a manifestation or aspect of this being.
A being of supernatural powers or attributes, believed in and worshiped by a people, especially a male deity thought to control some part of nature or reality.

An image of a supernatural being; an idol.

One that is worshiped, idealized, or followed: Money was their god.

A very handsome man.

A powerful ruler or despot.

As the majority of science vs religion debates involve Christians, let's assume definition #1 is what a god is.

Feel free to go on from there.

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Definition One posted by Gremlin [12.255.181.7 - 12-255-181-7.client.attbi.com] on 11 July 2002 at 21.04.23 ZuluTime (21)

i thought so posted by whoami [65.123.82.79 - ] on 11 July 2002 at 22.17.13 ZuluTime (20)
- Straying from the topic... posted by Baron Greenback [12.255.181.7 - 12-255-181-7.client.attbi.com] on 11 July 2002 at 22.58.27 ZuluTime (10)
  - stranded on the stray topic posted by whoami [65.123.82.68 - ] on 12 July 2002 at 00.19.25 ZuluTime (0)
  - It's a standard tactic posted by Gremlin [12.255.181.7 - 12-255-181-7.client.attbi.com] on 11 July 2002 at 23.13.06 ZuluTime (8)
    - The "standard" tactic posted by whoami [65.123.82.153 - ] on 12 July 2002 at 00.45.25 ZuluTime (7)
      - Historically standard posted by Gremlin [12.255.181.7 - 12-255-181-7.client.attbi.com] on 12 July 2002 at 01.25.32 ZuluTime (6)
        
        standardization remains to be seen posted by Andy [65.123.82.98 - ] on 12 July 2002 at 01.52.29 ZuluTime (5)
        
        Assertions and beliefs posted by Gremlin [12.255.181.7 - 12-255-181-7.client.attbi.com] on 12 July 2002 at 02.13.52 ZuluTime (4)
        
        so... posted by Andy [65.123.82.34 - ] on 12 July 2002 at 16.34.55 ZuluTime (3)
        
        Close.... posted by Gremlin [12.255.181.7 - 12-255-181-7.client.attbi.com] on 12 July 2002 at 20.49.09 ZuluTime (2)
        
        but posted by Andy [65.123.82.149 - ] on 12 July 2002 at 21.01.44 ZuluTime (1)
        
        Mindless infidels posted by Gremlin [12.255.181.7 - 12-255-181-7.client.attbi.com] on 12 July 2002 at 21.58.38 ZuluTime (0)
- Uh-huh.... posted by Gremlin [12.255.181.7 - 12-255-181-7.client.attbi.com] on 11 July 2002 at 22.40.23 ZuluTime (8)
  - regarding your "brainless little creatures" posted by Andy [65.123.82.98 - ] on 12 July 2002 at 02.10.26 ZuluTime (4)
    - Oh, those.... posted by Gremlin [12.255.181.7 - 12-255-181-7.client.attbi.com] on 12 July 2002 at 02.30.29 ZuluTime (3)
      - i think i see... posted by Andy [65.123.82.98 - ] on 12 July 2002 at 03.08.28 ZuluTime (2)
        
        The point is simple posted by Gremlin [12.255.181.7 - 12-255-181-7.client.attbi.com] on 12 July 2002 at 19.50.17 ZuluTime (1)
        
        the point is indeed simple posted by Andy [65.123.82.149 - ] on 12 July 2002 at 20.17.56 ZuluTime (0)
  - my point...and no more games posted by whoami? Andy... [65.123.82.98 - ] on 12 July 2002 at 01.09.21 ZuluTime (2)
    - Um...not really. posted by Gremlin [12.255.181.7 - 12-255-181-7.client.attbi.com] on 12 July 2002 at 01.46.54 ZuluTime (1)
      - Please go from this sub-thread to the 2nd level thread at the top... NT posted by Andy [65.123.82.98 - ] on 12 July 2002 at 02.00.46 ZuluTime (0)

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