Posted by Gremlin [12.255.181.7 - 12-255-181-7.client.attbi.com] on 11 July 2002 at 21.04.23 ZuluTime:
In Reply to: A classic problem... posted by Jurassosaurus on 11 July 2002 at 20.46.01 ZuluTime:
The problem with Definition 1a [A being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe, the principal object of faith and worship in monotheistic religions.] is that it describes Yhvh in no way whatsoever.
A 'perfect, omnipotent, omniscient' character would do a little better than the following:
1) be surprised by the defecting of Baal Zevuv
2) be surprised by the consumption of the forbidden fruit
3) be surprised by the death of Abel
4) send Cain off to marry someone it never created
5a) flood an entire planet for the purpose of destroying sin
5b) fail to destroy sin with the flood
6a) clone itself and send the clone to Earth to accomplish anything
6b) not see the crucifixion coming
6c) not be able to prevent the crucifixion
6d) effectively commit suicide in the event that 6b and 6c never happened
6e) fail to destroy sin with its suicide
7) my personal favourite: allow itself to be represented by a vast group of sophistic morons with homonymic disorders in chatrooms and on messageboards throughout the 'net
That last one is what gets me. Half the reason I don't eat at McDonald's is because the people working there are functionally retarded. I'm certainly not interested in worshipping any creature whose self-image is bleak enough that it would allow these plebeians to speak for it in an advertising campaign.
The shorthand: the only source of information on Yhvh is the bible and those who have read up to five percent of it; and, if Yhvh did exist, it would be the only deity in the history of the planet which JarJar Binks is allowed to make fun of.
--Gremlin